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#6881 Chucky-kun

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:12 AM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you guys are hallucinating very much. Already kishi has done ridiculous things in his manga, and now to think that obito will again have a change of heart after so many years just because he might kill sakura somehow (although I am very sure sakura won't come near to dying at all) I will consider reading this manga all these years a waste of time, since their will be endless loopholes if such a thing happens in end.
I also think that some people over here has got very over confident that NS will happen for sure, but as I am seeing things Kishi has already put many troubles in every pairing to happen without any huge questions and surprises and If NS has got development, Kishi also has given drawbacks to NS due to ambiguous feelings of Sakura.

what are you trying to say....

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what are you trying to say....

I think he's saying that kishi has done worse things and you guys are overeacting too much on a scene that has no NH at all.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 19 2012, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think he's saying that kishi has done worse things and you guys are overeacting too much on a scene that has no NH at all.

meh, so many people be abandoning ship, guess we know who won't give up.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
meh, so many people be abandoning ship, guess we know who won't give up.


abandoning ship?
LOL


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Dec 19 2012, 01:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone,

Am I the only one to see Sakura dying after protecting Naruto ?
I mean, it's new for me to know that Obito can use Rinnetensei No Jutsu. Kishi doesn't give us some hint like this just for nothing ya know.
My prediction :

Sakura's protecting Naruto and is killed by Obito to show our hero what real despair is. He will know hell like Obito did when Rin, the one he loved, died in front of him.
Sakura before dying will probably realise her love for Naruto. Remember what Itachi said : It's when you're going to die that you will realise who you really are.
Death will realise Sakura of her feelings for Naruto. Naruto will do his confession while crying to see the girl he loves dissapearing little by little.

After that, Naruto will proove to Obito that even if he lost his beloved one, he will never become like him.
Naruto will kick his ass and make him understand he's wrong, that all what Obito didn't believed in anymore always exist.
Naruto will know Obito's pain after loosing Sakura, and Obito will listen to him this time, and will become a good guy.

We know that Rinnetensei can ressurect people in exchange of your own life. Obito confirmed it to Madara.
He will use the jutsu to ressurect Sakura-chan for Naruto, and give him the hapiness that wasn't given to him.




That's how I see NaruSaku happen.
And this time, it will be Naruto who will hug Sakura.

Sorry for the bad english.



THIS

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE (Otaru @ Dec 19 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
THIS

would be perfect


It would be, but people would still think that she's useless.
Sometimes I can't believe this fandom, really.
You don't wanna know all the reactions I've been reading on another forums.
Thanks God people here are more mature...

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Dec 19 2012, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be, but people would still think that she's useless.
Sometimes I can't believe this fandom, really.
You don't wanna know all the reactions I've been reading on another forums.
Thanks God people here are more mature...

You shouldnt care what other fandoms think.
This way it is easier to keep a clear view on the story instead of a biased pairing view.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 19 2012, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You shouldnt care what other fandoms think.
This way it is easier to keep a clear view on the story instead of a biased pairing view.


I know you guys are right, it's just that at times it's so damn hard to be a NS fan or Sakura fan with all the hate coming from all sides...
Sometimes it's not about only the pairing, it's about Sakura as a character... but I can only wish Kishi will make something big with her as well...she has so much potential that it's ridiculous to not be used!

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Dec 18 2012, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone,

Am I the only one to see Sakura dying after protecting Naruto ?
I mean, it's new for me to know that Obito can use Rinnetensei No Jutsu. Kishi doesn't give us some hint like this just for nothing ya know.
My prediction :

Sakura's protecting Naruto and is killed by Obito to show our hero what real despair is. He will know hell like Obito did when Rin, the one he loved, died in front of him.
Sakura before dying will probably realise her love for Naruto. Remember what Itachi said : It's when you're going to die that you will realise who you really are.
Death will realise Sakura of her feelings for Naruto. Naruto will do his confession while crying to see the girl he loves dissapearing little by little.

After that, Naruto will proove to Obito that even if he lost his beloved one, he will never become like him.
Naruto will kick his ass and make him understand he's wrong, that all what Obito didn't believed in anymore always exist.
Naruto will know Obito's pain after loosing Sakura, and Obito will listen to him this time, and will become a good guy.

We know that Rinnetensei can ressurect people in exchange of your own life. Obito confirmed it to Madara.
He will use the jutsu to ressurect Sakura-chan for Naruto, and give him the hapiness that wasn't given to him.




That's how I see NaruSaku happen.
And this time, it will be Naruto who will hug Sakura.

Sorry for the bad english.


So you just want this to end the same way as the Invasion of Pain? Sorry but I think Kishi can do better then reusing the same exact ending, the only difference between how the Invasion of Pain arc ended and your prediction is
  1. It's Sakura getting the fatal blow instead of Hinata
  2. Sakura actually dies in the process
that's it, now don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind an ending that allows people like Neji, Asuma and Jiraiya to come back to life (And please Kishi if you are going to do something like this please bring back Jiraiya, if he can bring that pedophile back then why the hell can't he bring back the Super Pervert), but I want it to be more original then just rehashing an ending he has already used.

I think that it is much more likely that Obito will use Rinne Tensei to revive Madara. Why because once Madara is resurrected by Rinne Tensei he will no longer be immortal and thus the allience will be able to kill him.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 19 2012, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
abandoning ship?
LOL


OH.MY.GOD. I knew it! laugh.gif

But seriously, are people here really giving up on NS after last chapter? Really? I actually thought that Kiba's comment felt more threatening than last chapter, and that was just Kiba acting like his usual self.

Whenever I see people doubting I can't help but remember how so many people refused to believe that Tobi could possibly be Obito, and then comes 599.

Whether Sakura truly falls in love by the end with Naruto or not, I just can't imagine for the life of me the possibility of Naruto not loving Sakura anymore. Sakura is the only one that has been shown to possibly change who she loves. Naruto's love for Sakura has been such an instrumental part of his character that I don't feel like he would be Naruto anymore if he didn't love her. Sakura's care for Naruto always brings out her more tender side while her love for Sasuke makes her suppress her outgoing personality.

I sometimes wonder, if Sakura wasn't in love with Sasuke do you think we would perceive these NH moments the same way we do now? If Sakura was just confused about her feelings for Naruto, no influence from Sasuke, would we still perceive Hinata as a threat?

Many a manga have that shy girl character that's in love with the hero, and even if the hero never loves her back she get inspired by his bravery which in turn motivates her to stand up for herself. That's how I've always seen Hinata.

Maybe the true worry of Hinata comes from the fear that Sakura will never love Naruto back. If Sakura doesn't love him back he still must be paired with someone and the obvious choice is, of course, Hinata. Since we doubt Sakura will have a change of heart then now we perceive every interaction between Naruto and Hinata as their obvious build up toward being together.

The problem is that regardless of the panel time they have shared there's not even one indication of romantic feelings from Naruto. Even other mangas have bothered in making the hero think the shy girl is pretty or looks cute (even if the hero doesn't actually love her), but we've never even gotten anything close to that impression from Naruto.

Kishi already said that the ending was planned from the very beginning, the problem was figuring out the detail of how to get there. I'm pretty sure that knowing the ending would partially mean knowing who would be the girl in Naruto's life. Don't you think that if it was gonna be Hinata we would've gotten something... more?

Do you guys really think that was Kishi's plan?
- Make Naruto love Sakura in the most pure selfless way possible.
- Make him got through lengths to see her smile.
- Make it so that Sakura loving him back became one of the most difficult things he could manage, then take into consideration that everything Naruto gets has to be earned through a lot of hard work, determination and not giving up.
- Make it known that even if Sakura still loves Sasuke that Naruto has not let go of his feelings for Sakura so far.
- Make it so that Naruto and Hinata don't have to much interaction in the story. While it's always more focused on Hinata's character progressing than Naruto's.
- Make it so that Naruto never shows even the slight amount attraction or interest towards Hinata.
- Make it so that Sakura slowly starts seeing Naruto in a different light as he progresses to the point that she feels confused as to how she feels about him.
BUT
- Then in the end make Naruto suddenly not feel that deep love he has for Sakura while suddenly giving it towards Hinata with no particular indications throughout the story that he could possibly feel this way.
- Have Sakura drop all possibilities that she could ever love Naruto back, even if the story was building up towards it happening.
- And most important of all: Have Sasuke suddenly develop feelings for Sakura that he never possessed or was even hinted at developing. Which would be particularly difficult considering that Sasuke has never thought of Sakura individually at any moment in Part 2. And also because given that Sakura (and Kakashi) have entrusted Sasuke to Naruto that there's not much that could happen between them before the end.

I just don't see Kishi building Naruto and Sakura only for it not to happen in the end. And I'm pretty sure that whatever path Kishi decided as he began the story he's gonna stick to it. He can change some detail here and there, but it's a very different story to change the final love interest from one person to another. And I'm pretty sure Kishi is not someone that would do anything he doesn't want to. He likes to take advice, but if it goes completely against his vision then I don't think he would do it.

In many manga the hero gets a good amount of interaction and development with the shy secondary character (more so than what Naruto has with Hinata), but that never meant that they would get together. It was always done for the sake of the story's plot, nothing more. But I guess the doubts of Sakura ever falling in love with Naruto amplifies the perception we have of Hinata's actions as foreshadowing of them being together. This is all because we believe that if it looks like Sakura might not love Naruto by the end then each of Hinata's actions must be an indicator of her and Naruto getting together since Naruto must have a girl by the end.

I heard that Air Gear had a similar problem with confusing people as to who the hero would be with in the end. I've never read the series but from what I heard in the end it was the obvious hero/tsundere pair. I also heard that people are still complaining about that outcome so I guess it wouldn't be any different when it happens with Naruto. But what makes it tricky in Naruto is that since the girl the hero loves has feelings for someone else it takes the intrigue to a higher level. So even if it looks obvious that Naruto and Sakura should be together, with her having feelings for Sasuke it keeps you on edge thinking as to how that can be resolved.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 04:18 PM

Nice post reddragon.

I will now reveal my current worries of this manga ninja.gif

I feel like.. as if Kishi is basing his writing style very much of his fanbase. I'm not pointing at the ending right now, I still think NS will happen. I do agree with you, reddragon. It's more like those little annoying things that pop up. It's like his highest priority is fanservice, and that he could written these chapters with higher quality if he wanted to. Conclusion: Kishi, quality comes before fanservice.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 04:59 PM

I'm not worried about if NS will happen or not right now, the development is there, NH doesn't compare.

But ask this of yourselves, would your opinion change if throughout this war arc and after the war arc, Hinata became more and more important, and someday (which I highly doubt) Naruto would give her similar treatment that he currently gives to Sakura?

For example, the look he gave her at the beginning of shippuden when he witnessed her improvement. Are you saying that wouldn't be Naruto >>> Hinata but it is Naruto >>> Sakura? Again, no one is questioning the development Naruto and Sakura has. It's a major part of the manga and deeply embedded into the story line.

The question is, what would happen if Kishi decided to build up the possibility of NH from now on, with similar treatment he's given NS. If I'm honest, there really isn't much time for that and I REALLY don't see it happening, but I believe that is what everyone is worried about. I don't want any "You're overracting" or "Have you forgotten about all the development NS has had?" responses from people. I haven't forgotten, I doubt anyone here has (They're NS fans just like you are).

There is nothing wrong with questioning the unknown future. No one here knows Kishi, we can't predict what he's thinking or how he will end his manga. All we can do is overanaylze the panels he shows to us. So answer the question, what do you think of Kishi developing NH from now on? Whether it be "So not happening" or "It could happen" state the reasons why without questioning peoples' belief in the pairings they like. (Seriously, it gets really old calling people non-believers or not true fans when they have a bit of reasonable skepticism.)


As for what I think, don't have a problem with Hinata being there specifically (other than still being reckless and getting others killed), the problem I have with is how slowly Kishi is getting other characters in. "Side characters are going to shine". Ok, but wouldn't it have been perfect for Ten Ten and Lee to be there as Neji was dying? They're his teammates and they're side characters. Why was only Hinata there? To have someone weeping tears? Or maybe because she was the absolute catalysts for Neji's death and had to be there for it to happen. (But I still wanted Ten Ten and Lee in the picture. :/ Maybe even Gai)

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:40 PM

@kirabook

KILL THE NON BELIEVER! Just kidding. tongue.gif

It's okay to have reasonable skepticism, I do to. If I didn't I would just be saying stuff like "Can't you see NS is obviously going to happen, jeez". But even if I'm not 100% convinced that something will happen, if I believe that's the most reasonable outcome then I'll point out why I believe so.

The problem lies not in having skepticism, it's that sometimes some can become so unsatisfied with how things aren't going their way that they immediately think it's all hopeless. It's seems that lately every time there's a panel of Hinata this becomes the case for some.

When it comes to your question, well, if Kishi can really find a way to suddenly make Hinata as important and significant as Sakura has been throughout the story without it looking forced or rushed then I guess I would like it. Right now, as much as I try I just can't envision Naruto having the same feelings he has for Sakura now with Hinata. It just feels way out of place.

It would be fine if he was able to do it, but the lingering questions would be: Why keep Naruto's feelings for Sakura intact only to change them by the end? Why tease us with Naruto and Sakura's growing relationship throughout the series. Why tease us by making Sakura the only one who's shown signs of changing her feelings has the series progresses? Why not have Naruto show some slight interest in Hinata in the middle of the series, why only at the near end?

I feel like Kishi making Naruto love Sakura throughout the story only to make him later have those feelings for Hinata would be the same as if Naruto decided by the end that being Hokage wasn't as important as he thought it would be so he never becomes one.

Kishi could make Naruto slowly start thinking that being Hokage is not an important dream, but wouldn't that make all of his previous claims of how much he wanted to be one feel a little awkward. I feel the same way about his love for Sakura. If Sakura just goes to keep pursuing Sasuke's affection by the end, it would make all of her development with Naruto feel a little strange to see.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@kirabook

KILL THE NON BELIEVER! Just kidding. tongue.gif

It's okay to have reasonable skepticism, I do to. If I didn't I would just be saying stuff like "Can't you see NS is obviously going to happen, jeez". But even if I'm not 100% convinced that something will happen, if I believe that's the most reasonable outcome then I'll point out why I believe so.

The problem lies not in having skepticism, it's that sometimes some can become so unsatisfied with how things aren't going their way that they immediately think it's all hopeless. It's seems that lately every time there's a panel of Hinata this becomes the case for some.

When it comes to your question, well, if Kishi can really find a way to suddenly make Hinata as important and significant as Sakura has been throughout the story without it looking forced or rushed then I guess I would like it. Right now, as much as I try I just can't envision Naruto having the same feelings he has for Sakura now with Hinata. It just feels way out of place.

It would be fine if he was able to do it, but the lingering questions would be: Why keep Naruto's feelings for Sakura intact only to change them by the end? Why tease us with Naruto and Sakura's growing relationship throughout the series. Why tease us by making Sakura the only one who's shown signs of changing her feelings has the series progresses? Why not have Naruto show some slight interest in Hinata in the middle of the series, why only at the near end?

I feel like Kishi making Naruto love Sakura throughout the story only to make him later have those feelings for Hinata would be the same as if Naruto decided by the end that being Hokage wasn't as important as he thought it would be so he never becomes one.

Kishi could make Naruto slowly start thinking that being Hokage is not an important dream, but wouldn't that make all of his previous claims of how much he wanted to be one feel a little awkward. I feel the same way about his love for Sakura. If Sakura just goes to keep pursuing Sasuke's affection by the end, it would make all of her development with Naruto feel a little strange to see.

Very well said there(of course also in your last post), i agree 100%. In the end all we can do is wait till the end of the manga. There is no need to be worried over every chapter that doesnt fits like we want it.
So if we keep chilled everything is okay.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 19 2012, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OH.MY.GOD. I knew it! laugh.gif

But seriously, are people here really giving up on NS after last chapter? Really? I actually thought that Kiba's comment felt more threatening than last chapter, and that was just Kiba acting like his usual self.

Whenever I see people doubting I can't help but remember how so many people refused to believe that Tobi could possibly be Obito, and then comes 599.

Whether Sakura truly falls in love by the end with Naruto or not, I just can't imagine for the life of me the possibility of Naruto not loving Sakura anymore. Sakura is the only one that has been shown to possibly change who she loves. Naruto's love for Sakura has been such an instrumental part of his character that I don't feel like he would be Naruto anymore if he didn't love her. Sakura's care for Naruto always brings out her more tender side while her love for Sasuke makes her suppress her outgoing personality.

I sometimes wonder, if Sakura wasn't in love with Sasuke do you think we would perceive these NH moments the same way we do now? If Sakura was just confused about her feelings for Naruto, no influence from Sasuke, would we still perceive Hinata as a threat?

Many a manga have that shy girl character that's in love with the hero, and even if the hero never loves her back she get inspired by his bravery which in turn motivates her to stand up for herself. That's how I've always seen Hinata.

Maybe the true worry of Hinata comes from the fear that Sakura will never love Naruto back. If Sakura doesn't love him back he still must be paired with someone and the obvious choice is, of course, Hinata. Since we doubt Sakura will have a change of heart then now we perceive every interaction between Naruto and Hinata as their obvious build up toward being together.

The problem is that regardless of the panel time they have shared there's not even one indication of romantic feelings from Naruto. Even other mangas have bothered in making the hero think the shy girl is pretty or looks cute (even if the hero doesn't actually love her), but we've never even gotten anything close to that impression from Naruto.

Kishi already said that the ending was planned from the very beginning, the problem was figuring out the detail of how to get there. I'm pretty sure that knowing the ending would partially mean knowing who would be the girl in Naruto's life. Don't you think that if it was gonna be Hinata we would've gotten something... more?

Do you guys really think that was Kishi's plan?
- Make Naruto love Sakura in the most pure selfless way possible.
- Make him got through lengths to see her smile.
- Make it so that Sakura loving him back became one of the most difficult things he could manage, then take into consideration that everything Naruto gets has to be earned through a lot of hard work, determination and not giving up.
- Make it known that even if Sakura still loves Sasuke that Naruto has not let go of his feelings for Sakura so far.
- Make it so that Naruto and Hinata don't have to much interaction in the story. While it's always more focused on Hinata's character progressing than Naruto's.
- Make it so that Naruto never shows even the slight amount attraction or interest towards Hinata.
- Make it so that Sakura slowly starts seeing Naruto in a different light as he progresses to the point that she feels confused as to how she feels about him.
BUT
- Then in the end make Naruto suddenly not feel that deep love he has for Sakura while suddenly giving it towards Hinata with no particular indications throughout the story that he could possibly feel this way.
- Have Sakura drop all possibilities that she could ever love Naruto back, even if the story was building up towards it happening.
- And most important of all: Have Sasuke suddenly develop feelings for Sakura that he never possessed or was even hinted at developing. Which would be particularly difficult considering that Sasuke has never thought of Sakura individually at any moment in Part 2. And also because given that Sakura (and Kakashi) have entrusted Sasuke to Naruto that there's not much that could happen between them before the end.

I just don't see Kishi building Naruto and Sakura only for it not to happen in the end. And I'm pretty sure that whatever path Kishi decided as he began the story he's gonna stick to it. He can change some detail here and there, but it's a very different story to change the final love interest from one person to another. And I'm pretty sure Kishi is not someone that would do anything he doesn't want to. He likes to take advice, but if it goes completely against his vision then I don't think he would do it.

In many manga the hero gets a good amount of interaction and development with the shy secondary character (more so than what Naruto has with Hinata), but that never meant that they would get together. It was always done for the sake of the story's plot, nothing more. But I guess the doubts of Sakura ever falling in love with Naruto amplifies the perception we have of Hinata's actions as foreshadowing of them being together. This is all because we believe that if it looks like Sakura might not love Naruto by the end then each of Hinata's actions must be an indicator of her and Naruto getting together since Naruto must have a girl by the end.

I heard that Air Gear had a similar problem with confusing people as to who the hero would be with in the end. I've never read the series but from what I heard in the end it was the obvious hero/tsundere pair. I also heard that people are still complaining about that outcome so I guess it wouldn't be any different when it happens with Naruto. But what makes it tricky in Naruto is that since the girl the hero loves has feelings for someone else it takes the intrigue to a higher level. So even if it looks obvious that Naruto and Sakura should be together, with her having feelings for Sasuke it keeps you on edge thinking as to how that can be resolved.

Good post but you're treating like this chapter was something related to NH it was neji.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

Finally got to read the chapter. I feel sad that Neji had to got and very smitten to the fact that Kishi has given NH something to be canon about. I always knew if NH somehow becomes canon. It won't be a romantic pairing. I always imagined that Naruto hooking up with Hinata not out of love but pity. Now he may feel obligated to take over Neji's job, whichbis to protect Hinata and be by her side. However, I have a feeling that either Naruto or Sakura will die and one of them will experience each other's death by Obito.

For Naruto it will be like him being a second Obito and for Sakura, she will experience someone she loves die. And I bet if Naruto is dying, he will confess to Sakura the same vice versa.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:38 PM

I'm mainly worried about Hinata taking Sakura's place for the parallel; with the amount of back-seatage she's been taking this arc, it wouldn't surprise me if nothing happened with her.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

Just reiterating my statement from another site:

"I don't know about you guys, but something just didn't feel right about that panel. She was willing to give her life away so carelessly like it was on a whim. It's like her life means absolutely nothing when it comes to Naruto. I think Hinata really wants to prove her love for Naruto by protecting him = dying for Naruto."

Now don't get me wrong or anything, whether NH happens or not I couldn't care less. It's just that the way Kishi is presenting Hinata's love for Naruto is really making me sick to my stomach. I guess his statement about not being good at romance has some value, if it already didn't before. (my opinion so don't rage)

Edited by luffyq1, 19 December 2012 - 11:07 PM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 20 2012, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jut reiterating my statement from another site:

"I don't know about you guys, but something just didn't feel right about that panel. She was willing to give her life away so carelessly like it was on a whim. It's like her life means absolutely nothing when it comes to Naruto. I think Hinata really wants to prove her love for Naruto by protecting him = dying for Naruto."

Now don't get me wrong or anything, whether NH happens or not I couldn't care less. It's just that the way Kishi is presenting Hinata's love for Naruto is really making me sick to my stomach. I guess his statement about not being good at romance has some value, if it already didn't before. (my opinion so don't rage)

I understand your opinion but that "hinata was willing to die for you as so i" it wasnt a romantic statement but to Naruto realize that his life is important to his friends, i would be concerned if he told "she was willing to die for you because she loves you", and he did that only to protect hinata.
This is a lesson that naruto must earn that he should not be like "everyone stay behind and let me do this" he always did that.
This reminds me of sakura speech when she told that "No matter what you say we are gonna be together... not just me we all gonna fight together" reinforces this statement that everyone is there to fight for naruto.

Naruto become strong and at the same time was becoming someome arrogant like itachi told naruto.
Always trying to handle all the things by himself and forget about his friends.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 December 2012 - 11:11 PM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 20 2012, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just reiterating my statement from another site:

"I don't know about you guys, but something just didn't feel right about that panel. She was willing to give her life away so carelessly like it was on a whim. It's like her life means absolutely nothing when it comes to Naruto. I think Hinata really wants to prove her love for Naruto by protecting him = dying for Naruto."

Now don't get me wrong or anything, whether NH happens or not I couldn't care less. It's just that the way Kishi is presenting Hinata's love for Naruto is really making me sick to my stomach. I guess his statement about not being good at romance has some value, if it already didn't before. (my opinion so don't rage)

Neji DID die for naruto, but that doesn't mean they're canon now does it.

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