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[TouKen4Life3g]

^^
To much of a strong word men, is better to say that the need to hope that Kishi finally lost it, or he start using wrong stuff, dead is something I try not to relate on these stuff.


NF
Naruto forum Neutral? Don't make me lough, NF is the place where the bash Sakura the most, sometime hate on Naruto and treat Itachi, Sasuke, Madara and Hinata like gods.

Again don't make me lough because one thing I learn about NF is how rude they are and the irrational hate towards Sakura and Tsunade, but by far Sakura.

So much true. That's why I can't really speak anymore because well, no one will take it serious and I will get trolled to death.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sometimes i wish i could be a neutral fan again it's so good to read a chapter and be unaffected and have 0 expectations on the next chapters.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 March 2013 - 08:37 PM.

[T XD]

Sometimes i wish i could be a neutral fan again it's so good to read a chapter and be unaffected and have 0 expectations on the next chapters.

Well, you can have zero expectations now. All you have to do is just don't expect XD

Edited by T XD, 03 March 2013 - 08:41 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sometimes i wish i could be a neutral fan again it's so good to read a chapter and be unaffected and have 0 expectations on the next chapters.

I'll be honest, so do I. I may said that I'm neutral when reading, but because NH fans got me...ticked off, I'm just hoping to shut them down hard. I'm not a bad guy, but man, I can't even keep up. I'm still patient but maybe after NS moment happens, then I can be neutral.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, you can have zero expectations now. All you have to do is just don't expect XD

No you can never have zero expectations as a NS fan you always expect a NS scene coming on the end of the arc on even on the next chapters always.

Hinata's confession i didnt give a kitten and Sakura's hug i didnt even care.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 March 2013 - 08:52 PM.

[HauntedCake]

I always see this war between NH and NS as a game of poker. They've played their hand and got 2 pairs. Does this mean that they win? We could have a full house!

The point is they have jumped the gun thinking that their pairing is all but canon due to the recent chapters. Understandable but they completely deny the existance of the past what?.... 600+ chapters??

NH Fan - "Sakura?? who's she??"

NOTE - There are some nice NH fan's out there with brains and the capacity to respect other peoples opinions, unfortunatly the vast majority are extremely immature.

Edited by HauntedCake, 03 March 2013 - 09:22 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I always see this war between NH and NS as a game of poker. They've played their hand and got 2 pairs. Does this mean that they win? We could have a full house!

The point is they have jumped the gun thinking that their pairing is all but canon due to the recent chapters. Understandable but they completely deny the existance of the past what?.... 600+ chapters??

NH Fan - "Sakura?? who's she??"

Yes, that's exactly it. You don't know who has the best card. NS is still holding their cards. Are they going to call in or out? That remains to be seen.

[HauntedCake]

Yes, that's exactly it. You don't know who has the best card. NS is still holding their cards. Are they going to call in or out? That remains to be seen.

Exactly. Think about it, does anyone really think that's it for Sakura??, that shes going to ignore Naruto completely for the rest of the manga?? that she has no purpose in the manga anymore because Hinata has taken her spot?????? Makes no sense.

I really would like the nice, decent NH fans to come here and debate with us about their pairing. It would interesting hearing their arguments and being about to voice our own.

Edited by HauntedCake, 03 March 2013 - 09:33 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Exactly. Think about it, does anyone really think that's it for Sakura??, that shes going to ignore Naruto completely for the rest of the manga?? that she has no purpose in the manga anymore because Hinata has taken her spot?????? Makes no sense.

I really would like the nice, decent NH fans to come here and debate with us about their pairing. It would interesting hearing their arguments and being about to voice our own.

Exactly. It's bothersome to think their last communication will forever be the one from the last arc. That's nonsense. She has the card of asking what Naruto meant about "die together" or the fact she wants to be on his side no matter what he says.

[HauntedCake]

Exactly. It's bothersome to think their last communication will forever be the one from the last arc. That's nonsense. She has the card of asking what Naruto meant about "die together" or the fact she wants to be on his side no matter what he says.

Yep. Its ludicrous to think the main heroine is to be shoved into the attic and forgotton about. Just insane...

[kirabook]

It's really not hard to be neutral while reading.

Instead of concentrating on little things, you just have to look at it like a big picture. I don't read every Naruto chapter hoping for some NS action. Mind you, there are moments when I realize things and I get upset (like more recently how little Kishi has developed Sakura's character and seems to focus more on her love life or how annoying it is that we switch to Sasuke and whatnot), but other than that, the manga can go how it wants.

I guess I say it's easy to be neutral because I don't go out of my way to read the opinion of other fans. All that truly matters is how I interpret the manga and no one can say I'm wrong until the very end of it.

I guess another reason why I say it's easy to be neutral is because NS is not the biggest 'relationship' that I like in this manga. My favorite relationship is already super canon, and that is Minato, Kushina, and Naruto family stuff. I get excited at the mere possibility of Naruto learning things about his family or interacting with his parents in anyway. It sucks because they're both deceased, but even still the possibilities are there (like Minato joining the battle field). I guess if NS is the only thing you eventually care about in the series, yeah, it's hard to be neutral.

I suggest just taking a step back and find something more tangent to grab a hold of. Like Minato, Kushina, and Naruto's family. That's why even at the beginning when it seemed as though this movie was going to contain a lot of SS and NH, I didn't really care. Naruto was going to be with his family at last. It's like a fanfiction come true for me. The NS that appeared later is just a bonus add on.

[HauntedCake]

It's really not hard to be neutral while reading.

Instead of concentrating on little things, you just have to look at it like a big picture. I don't read every Naruto chapter hoping for some NS action. Mind you, there are moments when I realize things and I get upset (like more recently how little Kishi has developed Sakura's character and seems to focus more on her love life or how annoying it is that we switch to Sasuke and whatnot), but other than that, the manga can go how it wants.

I guess I say it's easy to be neutral because I don't go out of my way to read the opinion of other fans. All that truly matters is how I interpret the manga and no one can say I'm wrong until the very end of it.

I guess another reason why I say it's easy to be neutral is because NS is not the biggest 'relationship' that I like in this manga. My favorite relationship is already super canon, and that is Minato, Kushina, and Naruto family stuff. I get excited at the mere possibility of Naruto learning things about his family or interacting with his parents in anyway. It sucks because they're both deceased, but even still the possibilities are there (like Minato joining the battle field). I guess if NS is the only thing you eventually care about in the series, yeah, it's hard to be neutral.

I suggest just taking a step back and find something more tangent to grab a hold of. Like Minato, Kushina, and Naruto's family. That's why even at the beginning when it seemed as though this movie was going to contain a lot of SS and NH, I didn't really care. Naruto was going to be with his family at last. It's like a fanfiction come true for me. The NS that appeared later is just a bonus add on.

Good points

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's really not hard to be neutral while reading.

Instead of concentrating on little things, you just have to look at it like a big picture. I don't read every Naruto chapter hoping for some NS action. Mind you, there are moments when I realize things and I get upset (like more recently how little Kishi has developed Sakura's character and seems to focus more on her love life or how annoying it is that we switch to Sasuke and whatnot), but other than that, the manga can go how it wants.

I guess I say it's easy to be neutral because I don't go out of my way to read the opinion of other fans. All that truly matters is how I interpret the manga and no one can say I'm wrong until the very end of it.

I guess another reason why I say it's easy to be neutral is because NS is not the biggest 'relationship' that I like in this manga. My favorite relationship is already super canon, and that is Minato, Kushina, and Naruto family stuff. I get excited at the mere possibility of Naruto learning things about his family or interacting with his parents in anyway. It sucks because they're both deceased, but even still the possibilities are there (like Minato joining the battle field). I guess if NS is the only thing you eventually care about in the series, yeah, it's hard to be neutral.

I suggest just taking a step back and find something more tangent to grab a hold of. Like Minato, Kushina, and Naruto's family. That's why even at the beginning when it seemed as though this movie was going to contain a lot of SS and NH, I didn't really care. Naruto was going to be with his family at last. It's like a fanfiction come true for me. The NS that appeared later is just a bonus add on.

Sorry but i disagree here it's not like that it works.
I was neutral but a neutral does not read the things only to pick the big picture you just dont concentrate on pairings, you try to look for other stuff.
I said that you dont hope for every chapter to come an NS moment but you do hope that on the end of the arc on on the very ending for a NS and got concerned when a NH stuff happens like 615 with almost 100% of the fanbase here scream NH canon.
You simply does not care, pairing fanservices does not affect you.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 March 2013 - 10:27 PM.

[kirabook]

Sorry but i disagree here it's not like that it works.
I was neutral but a neutral does not read the things only to pick the big picture you just dont concentrate on pairings, you try to look for other stuff.
I said that you dont hope for every chapter to come an NS moment but you do hope that on the end of the arc on on the very ending for a NS and got concerned when a NH stuff happens like 615 with almost 100% of the fanbase here scream NH canon.
You simply does not care, pairing fanservices does not affect you.

It obviously works that way for some people since I am that way. I have never said NH was canon (although other people were) and I actually didn't really have a problem with that particular moment happening (obviously it was going to, Kishi always super hints at certain events). I just had a problem with it happening during such a crucial moment for Naruto when until that moment, it was Sakura who filled this role the most out of the K11. (It could have happened any other time, but I think that moment was 'too high' and Kishi will have a hard time making NS moments afterwards shine brighter. He can do it, but still)

There is not one definition for neutral. There are people like you describe that simply do not care and will read for the action or -insert other stuff-. Then there are other neutral people that, while they have a preference for a certain pairing, fanservice still doesn't affect them as much as it would most pairing fans. While I prefer NS, I also wouldn't mind if there were absolutely no pairings at all by the end of this series. NS stuff is nice, but overall, I can't say that NS is the reason why I like this manga or the reason why I read it.

Even if NH or SS happened in the end, while I think the story would be completely and utterly ruined, I just don't think I'd stay mad for very long. I can look at NH and SS moments completely separate from my preference for NS. This ties into the fact that if Kishi had built up any other pairing as he has NS, I would probably ship them. I think it also helps my situation that I did not like NH or SS WAY before I liked NS or even knew that the fandoms existed. I guess when I say neutral in this situation, I mean objective.

Either way, the more Kishi tries to tie romance into the story (which he has done a lot of lately) the less amount of neutral fans will exist because the he's making the romance an important part of the story. (which I'm not sure I like)

[TouKen4Life3g]

@Kirabook: Well said.

I do read it neutral, though I always keep hoping NS for now just because NH has pushed me far enough to think I should troll all of them when the time comes, but I will try not to do that. For some reason, I feel that romance will play, but you can disagree with me, but I don't think it has been launched yet. I feel that NS really does being the romance drama because they go through many hardships with each other and the confession shows it. Hinata is like, well, a side character. Last arc felt like he brought a real argue moment between Naruto and Sakura with conflicting problems they have. Kishi even made MinaKushi not as a perfect life as they do argued before. They can live happy but not without occurring problems. Hinata just get the one sided love mood as Naruto and Sakura get the mutual development that only they can tell us will they become lovers.

Ever noticed the romance aspects always get mentioned, but only through Team 7, which is really involved with a guy who is always compare to Naruto as well as a girl compare to Sakura. I feel like Obito seeing a resemblance can still happen and the reason why it hasn't is because the whole last volume was about friendships. Obito doesn't seem faze about his last speech, so no talk no jutsu. Still, it does suggest it and I get the feeling love is what going to challenge him. Sakura has not yet spotlighted, so you can kind of connect the dot.

[Gravenimage]

I always see this war between NH and NS as a game of poker. They've played their hand and got 2 pairs. Does this mean that they win? We could have a full house!

The point is they have jumped the gun thinking that their pairing is all but canon due to the recent chapters. Understandable but they completely deny the existance of the past what?.... 600+ chapters??

NH Fan - "Sakura?? who's she??"

NOTE - There are some nice NH fan's out there with brains and the capacity to respect other peoples opinions, unfortunatly the vast majority are extremely immature.

Take it easy calling them immature is considered slight bashing. Be careful to everyone to what you say remember this is the debate about the RTN movie not about opposing fandoms. I really want to prevent the mods coming here and start giving warnings, let's stay on topic please.

Edited by Gravenimage, 04 March 2013 - 11:30 AM.

[Dragunov]

Sooo when is this movie coming out again

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sooo when is this movie coming out again

Next month. Um, forgot what day but I think it's late next month.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Next month. Um, forgot what day but I think it's late next month.

I think it's around April 26th or April 28th.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think it's around April 26th or April 28th.

Ok, thank you.