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[Fenris]

IKR! Hinata is okay with NS. I still think that Hinata is giving Naruto to Sakura, because she likes it so much. Its like someone here said before. "maybe Hianta can help NS happen".

edit: Wait.. did I just say giving him to her.. LOL XD! MY BAD! I meant to say that she knows Naruto should go for Sakura and not her..

So lets see... Canon supporters of NS: Yamato, Sai, Hinata, Sasuke, Minato/Kushina? Kishi? (Sasuke even referred to Sakura that Naruto was the one who saved her.) .. who else?

Edited by iamfenris, 21 November 2011 - 12:42 AM.

[Anguyen92]

^^ I think Jiriaya and Tsunade is also for it, so I guess the actual question would be who is not the canon supporters of NaruSaku, if the majority of the village characters are for it? Any takers?

Edited by Anguyen92, 21 November 2011 - 12:51 AM.

[Fenris]

Eeek, sorry to interrupt the subject..
These images,
http://i1203.photobu...den_183-114.jpg
http://i1203.photobu...den_183-113.jpg

Probably filler, but I read somewhere she was dreaming of Naruto or something? ..
seemslikeawetdream.

[FoolishYoungling]

Eeek, sorry to interrupt the subject..
These images,
http://i1203.photobu...den_183-114.jpg
http://i1203.photobu...den_183-113.jpg

Probably filler, but I read somewhere she was dreaming of Naruto or something? ..
seemslikeawetdream.

She was dreaming of me!

Also doesn't this connect Naruto to being like Minato in a joking way?

[Miss Soupy]

So you're saying to remove Naruto's burden she needs to kill Sasuke herself?

Yes, this point is clear. Sai tells us this is her reasoning. Not only to protect Naruto, but to save what is left of Sasuke (by killing him before her gets worse). She is motivated by feelings for both of them.

And the only way to get Naruto away from Sasuke is to tell him she loves him even if its not true?

Probably not the only way, but it was the thing she thought would work best.

"That fool's in love with me." So what she's really thinking is, "I'm going to take advantage of this to make him return to the village." That still shows Sakura in a bad light.

Not necessarily. We don't know when she came up with her idea. She probably spoke in a harsh way to hide her own feelings at the time. You know, calling him a 'fool'. Obviously she doesn't consider him one, the opposite in fact. She considers him a hero and someone who will be hokage. She is basically trying to mask her own worry, doubt, guilt over the situation by speaking in such a way. It doesn't at all reflect much of a plan, to me.

And I don't understand what this reluctance is over admitting Sakura makes mistakes. Last I checked, people do make mistakes, and Sakura is supposed to be a 'real' type of girl. So what if she did something risky? People who condemn her are wrong, so ignore them. She is capable of learning from her mistakes, isn't she? Certainly even these not so positive sides of her are meant to flesh out her character and give her room for growth. Even though she says she doesn't want to make any mistakes, that doesn't mean suddenly she won't make any. It shows she wants to change that, but everyone has to accept they make mistakes.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

So I was thinking....What if Sakura only likes Naruto do to him being the hero of konoha?

[Fenris]

So I was thinking....What if Sakura only likes Naruto do to him being the hero of konoha?

Doubt that. They have too much growth together and she even started to like him before he was the hero.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Doubt that. They have too much growth together and she even started to like him before he was the hero.

I only brought it up cause she said that during her confession.

[Fenris]

I only brought it up cause she said that during her confession.

Well yeah, of course being the hero would boost her love for him, I mean, he saved all their lives, but nevertheless, I don't think it was just because of the hero thing. There was evidence of her confused feelings in the land of waves arc when Naruto was attacked by Zabuza and she was like; "Naruto, what is this feeling...?" with a blush. Plus there was even more before that in the 3rd chapter with her Inner.

I think she was more or less just pointing out how she enjoyed witnessing him turning from a idiot, into a hero.

Edited by iamfenris, 21 November 2011 - 01:14 AM.

[Super Boom]

So I was thinking....What if Sakura only likes Naruto do to him being the hero of konoha?

I only brought it up cause she said that during her confession.

That bothered me at first too, and it really seemed OOC for her, if she was giving a purely honest confession. The latter part of her confession seemed undoubtedly honest ("You're close to me...", "I can touch you like this...", etc.), but the way she started it off made it seem obvious that she wasn't being honest, or at least that there was an ulterior motive present.

I guess, concerning that line, she was basically mentioning Naruto's hero status to help persuade him to believe her. It's obvious that she had developed feelings for him beyond friendship at that point, and I'm sure she was at least somewhat aware of them, but she probably thought that Naruto wouldn't believe that her feelings have been changing. Naruto seems like he understands short-term changes better than long-term ones, so Sakura probably thought she'd have a better chance of making him believe her if she pin-pointed one point in time where her feelings would have 'changed', rather than tell him that she'd been falling in love with him all along, and that he just didn't notice. Or maybe she just wanted to help drive the point home that, much like how the villagers had changed how they'd viewed Naruto, her feelings towards him could have changed as well.

Of course, given how that confession was most likely meant to reintroduce Sakura's feelings for Sasuke back into the plot, the simplest reason was probably that Kishi had to cast some doubt on it. If she gave her honest feelings towards Naruto at that point, than the pairing issues would have already been resolved, and there wouldn't be anywhere to go for their official confession, when it happens.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 21 November 2011 - 02:34 AM.

[Don-kun]

Miss Soupy Sorry I really don't think was all a lie.

"That fool's in love with me." So what she's really thinking is, "I'm going to take advantage of this to make him return to the village." That still shows Sakura in a bad light.

That scenario will really make Sakura look bad and worse than a villian, there was some true in that confession but he was over shadow by her broken heart and her guilt. if you think she was completely lying Yamato speech Say hello. he dont agree.

Maybe she was thinking, how can Naruto like me if he knows that I like Sasuke, I disrespect him all this time and ask him to bring back Sasuke for me, the only thing I done so far is hurt him, I dont think I deserve his love.
but I don't want to make more mistake, a false confession is a BIG Mistake.
Sakura was thinking about Naruto and she try to return his feeling, but her broken heart and her guilt did not help the moment he get the best part of her, but she was still able to be honest and gave him some reason why she will fall for him.

That bothered me at first too, and it really seemed OOC for her, if she was giving a purely honest confession. The latter part of her confession seemed undoubtedly honest ("You're close to me...", "I can touch you like this...", etc.), but the way she started it off made it seem obvious that she wasn't being honest, or at least that there was an ulterior motive present.

I guess, concerning that line, she was basically mentioning Naruto's hero status to help persuade him to believe her. It's obvious that she had developed feelings for him beyond friendship at that point, and I'm sure she was at least somewhat aware of them, but she probably thought that Naruto wouldn't believe that her feelings have been changing. Naruto seems like he understands short-term changes better than long-term ones, so Sakura probably thought she'd have a better chance of making him believe her if she pin-pointed one point in time where her feelings would have 'changed', rather than tell him that she'd been falling in love with him all along, and that he just didn't notice. Or maybe she just wanted to help drive the point home that, much like how the villagers had changed how they'd viewed Naruto, her feelings towards him could have changed as well.

Of course, given how that confession was most likely meant to reintroduce Sakura's feelings for Sasuke back into the plot, the simplest reason was probably that Kishi had to cast some doubt on it. If she gave her honest feelings towards Naruto at that point, than the pairing issues would have already been resolved, and there wouldn't be anywhere to go for their official confession, when it happens.

I agree with you if Kishi made that confession more clear and honest the pairing war will end by now
and that's not his plan, everyone knows that Naruto like Sakura and Sakura has feelings for him, but there will still be too many excuse.

Kishi needs a better scenario for the Narusaku

1- By redeeming Sasuke
2- Resolving Sakura's feelings
3- Clarifying Naruto's feelings for Hinata for those stubborn NH fans.
4- Making sure she don't love him because of a guilt or heartbroken.
4- Naruto end with Sakura because there was no Sasuke. (I really want him to die but for a better Narusaku I wish he don't die So when NaruSaku happen there is no excuses made.)

Edited by donjoseph19, 21 November 2011 - 05:50 AM.

[Darth Krypt]

And I don't understand what this reluctance is over admitting Sakura makes mistakes. Last I checked, people do make mistakes, and Sakura is supposed to be a 'real' type of girl. So what if she did something risky? People who condemn her are wrong, so ignore them. She is capable of learning from her mistakes, isn't she? Certainly even these not so positive sides of her are meant to flesh out her character and give her room for growth. Even though she says she doesn't want to make any mistakes, that doesn't mean suddenly she won't make any. It shows she wants to change that, but everyone has to accept they make mistakes.

Well its not reluctance but more of how I interpret the story development. When a character declares he/she won't make another mistake again, the character will mean it and try their best not to do it. Making an unintentional mistake is ok to me but making a false confession would be making a big mistake deliberately. You said she is capable of learning from mistakes. How is this showing that she is learning at all? Right after saying she doesn't want to make another mistake, she goes on an makes another one. That is why I define her "mistake" as not returning the feelings of someone who loves her. And you said it yourself there are other ways to lift Naruto's burden so why a confession of all things. For her to do a confession after that declaration has to mean she believes she has feelings for Naruto but as I said she is still confused over Sasuke.

Edited by Darth Krypt, 21 November 2011 - 04:34 AM.

[Fenris]

Well its not reluctance but more of how I interpret the story development. When a character declares he/she won't make another mistake again, the character will mean it and try their best not to do it. Making an unintentional mistake is ok to me but making a false confession would be making a big mistake deliberately. You said she is capable of learning from mistakes. How is this showing that she is learning at all? Right after saying she doesn't want to make another mistake, she goes on an makes another one. That is why I define her "mistake" as not returning the feelings of someone who loves her. And you said it yourself there are other ways to lift Naruto's burden so why a confession of all things. For her to do a confession after that declaration has to mean she believes she has feelings for Naruto but as I said she is still confused over Sasuke.

Completely true. For someone, like you said, to say they don't want to make anymore mistakes, it'd make absolutely no sense at all to go to Naruto, despite her intentions of wanting to kill Sasuke/lift the burden for him, why would she want to make a huge, undeniably huge mistake by telling Naruto-- the boy who had a crush on her since the Academy-- she loved him if it were all a lie? Granted, like you said she's still confused over her feelings, but I know she'll realize she loves the leaf's orange hokage.

[Fenris]

I agree. She has been falling in love with him all along, ever since part I, but he was at first too blind to see the subtle changes and then in part II he deliberately made a shield around himself and decided to do his best to pretend nothing changed.
That's why he asked her how did she fall in love with him all of a sudden. Seeing how stubborn he is, Sakura realized she had no choice other than explain to him what a 'catch' he had become(she might even thought his stubborness was coming from insecurity).

He's so stubborn he mind as well be a stub on a rose bush or something. Does that even make sense? I made it up.
Anyway, you're right, she has been falling in love with him since part 1, hell, she even stood up against Sasuke in the forest of death and defended Naruto - again at the Kage summit.

That was the kage summit right? Where sasuke/sakura/naruto/kakashi had that long talk about ''if we fight - we die." ?

[RedDelicious]

I agree. She has been falling in love with him all along, ever since part I, but he was at first too blind to see the subtle changes and then in part II he deliberately made a shield around himself and decided to do his best to pretend nothing changed.
That's why he asked her how did she fall in love with him all of a sudden. Seeing how stubborn he is, Sakura realized she had no choice other than explain to him what a 'catch' he had become(she might even thought his stubborness was coming from insecurity).

That's a good point. She knows Naruto very well, and would realize his insecurity and self-image (under the loudmouth bluster) would need some praise.

She just didn't anticipate that Naruto would be holding onto a 4 year old image of what she is like. (That may have been part of anger when she responded. She had become a stronger ninja, worked with the hokage, and developed into a young woman. And Naruto was still treating her like a schoolgirl genin.)

[Don-kun]

That's a good point. She knows Naruto very well, and would realize his insecurity and self-image (under the loudmouth bluster) would need some praise.

She just didn't anticipate that Naruto would be holding onto a 4 year old image of what she is like. (That may have been part of anger when she responded. She had become a stronger ninja, worked with the hokage, and developed into a young woman. And Naruto was still treating her like a schoolgirl genin.)

I agree and disagree with you, for we NaruSaku will be great if he was not so blind.

Naruto is so blind even Jiraiya made ​​a comment that he does not understand the mind or heart of a women

I think we need to have Sakura resolve her feelings first, there was to much guilt in that confession.

There isn't much to say that hasn't already been said except for a intersting parallel I noticed.

In her confession to Sasuke, she attempts to make a over the top sacrifice for Sasuke ("Take me with you! As long as I'm with you, we'll be happy") - pretty much offering to betray her village for Sasuke's sake.

In her confession to Naruto, she again is attempting to make an over the top sacrifice (either ignoring whatever love she still feels for Sasuke in order to be with Naruto, or ignoring whatever love she still feels for Sasuke in order to kill him and prevent Naruto from destroying himself in the process of chasing after him).

Also, both confessions were prompted by outside forces - Sasuke leaving, and Sai and Shikamaru's words along with Naruto's extreme actions in regards to Sasuke. Neither one took place at her leisure, neither one was a happy moment for her.


In conclusion Sakura was honest with Naruto in certain way when she recognized that Naruto has change her and way she will fall for him, but she still need to clear her feelings
for the two.

Her feeling for Sasuke vs Her feeling for Naruto and the fact that Naruto really love her a selfless way her the other boy does not love her.

Edited by donjoseph19, 21 November 2011 - 04:09 PM.

[Anguyen92]

In conclusion Sakura was honest with Naruto in certain way when she recognized that Naruto has change her and way she will fall for him, but she still need to clear her feelings
for the two.

Her feeling for Sasuke vs Her feeling for Naruto and the fact that Naruto really love her a selfless way her the other boy does not love her.

Well, in all honestly, to really settle all matters, regarding Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, is for Sasuke to, I hate to say it, be good again. Maybe, have something like Sasuke just be all sniveling and saying I'm sorry for everything and then before you know it "BLAMO," Sakura socks him one and finally settle all matters with Naruto with no other issues in mind. Just them, one on one, regarding and talking about everything they have been through and where they will be in the future.

Edited by Anguyen92, 21 November 2011 - 05:05 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Well, in all honestly, to really settle all matters, regarding Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, is for Sasuke to, I hate to say it, be good again. Maybe, have something like Sasuke just be all sniveling and saying I'm sorry for everything and then before you know it "BLAMO," Sakura socks him one and finally settle all matters with Naruto with no other issues in mind. Just them, one on one, regarding and talking about everything they have been through and where they will be in the future.

i think so too.....like naruto, sakura is thinking about sasuke because he is not there. she doesnt know how much shes fallen out of love with him, cause all she can remember is being in love with him when he left.


but it would be nice....that once he did turn good and came back. sakura smacks him in the face or even better before he turns good :DDDD

[Thomas]

but it would be nice....that once he did turn good and came back. sakura smacks him in the face or even better before he turns good :DDDD

i dont think sasuke will come back, i think he will gonna be last villain of naruto.
i think sakura will save naruto after the naruto vs sasuke battle.