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[abloublou]

Whether or not stats will actually be incorporated into the fourth and final Databook is still up in the air. The translators and analysts on NF are firmly convinced by the shift in layout design to characteristics and affinities.

Any hypothetical stat estimates is just idle speculation for now.

Well, Kishi messed up the power-scale. It has to be expected.

[abloublou]

Ooooooooooooooooh, so that's why!! I see. I thought there was some little Photoshop right there done how they basically are. Oh well, then no worries either way, as we've seen which one were actually given with the covers. ;)

I think the covers were given with tickets for the movie and not manga volumes...

But maybe I am wrong.

Edited by abloublou, 03 November 2014 - 09:52 AM.

[TheQueenB]

You should complain to the members of NF that are discussing the issue. Some of them are firm believers in the idea that this change is for the best since stats are largely unreliable in light of inconsistent feats in the manga.

 

Let me guess. It has to do with the idea that Sakura's feats are not comparable to those of other characters, right? 

Edited by TheQueenB, 03 November 2014 - 09:48 AM.

[unhskikrforever]

Joooiinnn uuusss! Let us show you the waayyy! 

 

Nah, they'd just bicker and make up really soon. Plus, they'd find their quirks interesting. I really think Kiba would love pushing Ino's buttons just to piss her off.

 

But Kiba needs a smart, strong-willed girl like Ino to keep his moments of idiocy under control. I don't know. It seems to be a thing with manga, where the guys need a strong lady to rein them in, you know?   

 

 

Nuuuuuuuuuuu. I will not fall your tricks!

 

Yes, but I feel that they'd get fed up with each other in the long run. I do agree on the part where Kiba would make Ino mad just for fun though.   But, still.. Wait, maybe I'm just being a little realistic about this.

 

A quiet and reserved girl can be strong-willed and smart too. She can silence or calm him down with her glare, ya' know? Yes, that's true. But, the kind of girl I meant isn't all that weak at all. 

 

All in all, I agree that KibaIno would be an interesting pair but I still ship ShikaIno. You can't stop me!

Edited by unhskikrforever, 03 November 2014 - 09:50 AM.

[TheQueenB]

 

Nuuuuuuuuuuu. I will not fall your tricks!

 

Yes, but I feel that they'd get fed up with each other in the long run. I do agree on the part where Kiba would make Ino mad just for fun though.   But, still.. Wait, maybe I'm just being a little realistic about this.

 

A quiet and reserved girl can be strong-willed and smart too. She can silence or calm him down with her glare, ya' know? Yes, that's true. But, the kind of girl I meant isn't all that weak at all. 

 

All in all, I agree that KibaIno would be an interesting pair but I still ship ShikaIno. You can't stop me!

 

*gasps* Sacrilege! How dare you? 

 

Hmm... So, who would you say is a good match for Kiba? 

[choco2]

Kiba has had more moment with Naruto than her. And yet it's the most popular ship of the western fandom.

 

But we can blame it on Kishi. Forcing NarHin 'moments' (aka suicides) from time to time without bothering to give it proper casual interactions.

NarHin is one of the worst written thing in this manga.

 

Kiba , Shikamaru , Sai , Tsunade , Neji , Gaara , Lee , ....etc have had more moments with Naruto than her. NH interactions in just 4 chapters from 699 chapters in manga loool but NH after asspull will be canon 

 

one chapter in part 1 , he encouraged her in Neji vs Hinata fight during chunin eaxm 

three chapters in part 2 , one in war pain and others two in Neji died 

 

If NH happen, it will be a BIG ASSPULL EVER 

Edited by choco2, 03 November 2014 - 09:58 AM.

[Atheck]

Let me guess. It has to do with the idea that Sakura's feats are not comparable to those of other characters, right? 

Not just Sakura, stats in general. They often cite some glaring oddities like Orochimaru's genjutsu stat (only for him to be easily beaten by a mere Sharingan genjutsu), Hiruzen's genjutsu stat (no feats whatsoever, so they believe it isn't warranted), Sasuke ranking at a 3 in speed in the Chunin Exams when there are verifiable statements from trustworthy sources that he was on par with Lee who had a 4 in speed. I won't deny that the Databook has its inconsistencies, most notably in some of the choices for stats.

Just for fun, I made a hypothetical stat chart for Sakura earlier. Even if there are no official listings, the fanbase can at least speculate about them on Kishi's behalf.
 

Hypothetical stats

[unhskikrforever]

*gasps* Sacrilege! How dare you?

Hmm... So, who would you say is a good match for Kiba?

 
I ship KibaHina in their teenage years but adult Kiba with no one. HE'S ALL MINE.
 

Kiba , Shikamaru , Sai , Tsunade , Neji , Gaara , Lee , ....etc have had more moments with Naruto than her. NH interaction in just 4 chapters from 699 chapters in manga loool but NH after asspull will be canon 

 
Even Konohamaru has more moments with Naruto than Hinata and he hardly ever appears.. Am I exaggerating here?

Edited by unhskikrforever, 03 November 2014 - 10:01 AM.

[Kster95]

Why do people see Sakura never getting over Sasuke? Are we the ones out of the loop here in thinking she will? 

 

I just dont understand. 

[abloublou]

 

Kiba , Shikamaru , Sai , Tsunade , Neji , Gaara , Lee , ....etc have had more moments with Naruto than her. NH interaction in just 4 chapters from 699 chapters in manga loool but NH after asspull will be canon 

Nah. NH won't be canon.

Kishi will never ruin his precious parallels.

 

At best for NH, it'll be on Hinata finally getting some props from Naruto (which would be OOC  of Naruto, but still...), and then Kishi kills her for dramu, that way he can still make NS happen.

And it'll make Neji's sacrifice worthless.

[abloublou]

 

Even Konohamaru has more moments with Naruto than Hinata and he ever hardly appears.. Am I exaggerating here?

no.

[choco2]

 

Even Konohamaru has more moments with Naruto than Hinata and he ever hardly appears.. Am I exaggerating here?

 

NO

 

Have you ever see Naruto wants to talk with Hinata in manga ? lol 

 

 they'll be husband and wife ahahahahah 

Edited by choco2, 03 November 2014 - 10:04 AM.

[TheQueenB]

Not just Sakura, stats in general. They often cite some glaring oddities like Orochimaru's genjutsu stat (only for him to be easily beaten by a mere Sharingan genjutsu), Hiruzen's genjutsu stat (no feats whatsoever, so they believe it isn't warranted), Sasuke ranking at a 3 in speed in the Chunin Exams when there are verifiable statements from trustworthy sources that he was on par with Lee who had a 4 in speed. I won't deny that the Databook has its inconsistencies, most notably in some of the choices for stats.

Just for fun, I made a hypothetical stat chart for Sakura earlier. Even if there are no official listings, the fanbase can at least speculate about them on Kishi's behalf.
 

Hypothetical stats

 

Ah! Fair enough! Thanks for clarifying! 

Edited by TheQueenB, 03 November 2014 - 10:35 AM.

[unhskikrforever]

Why do people see Sakura never getting over Sasuke? Are we the ones out of the loop here in thinking she will? 
 
I just dont understand.

 
I don't understand either. It's not like she was in love with him. I'm pretty sure it was just a crush, not saying that crushes are easy to get over. But come on, how many years has it been?

Edited by unhskikrforever, 03 November 2014 - 10:06 AM.

[咲耶姫]

 
I don't understand either. It's not like she was in love with him. I'm pretty sure it was just a crush, not saying that crushes are easy to get over. But come on, how many years have it been?

It's precisely because it's been so many years that she loves him and because she still loves him after all what he has done to her and because Kakashi used the word "ai" to describe her feelings that you can't say it's just a crush. It's not a crush it's real love and I'm still a NS fan even if I accept Sakura's deep feelings for Sasuke. 

[abloublou]

 
I don't understand either. It's not like she was in love with him. I'm pretty sure it was just a crush, not saying that crushes are easy to get over. But come on, how many years have it been?

Crush = eternal love in Kishi's manga.

Sad but true.

 

Just take a look at Obito.

Only reason why Sakura is going to be "saved" from her self destructive love for Sasuke is that Naruto always get what he wants...

Edited by abloublou, 03 November 2014 - 10:10 AM.

[TheQueenB]

It's precisely because it's been so many years that she loves him and because she still loves him after all what he has done to her and because Kakashi used the word "ai" to describe her feelings that you can't say it's just a crush. It's not a crush it's real love and I'm still a NS fan even if I accept Sakura's deep feelings for Sasuke. 

 

But didn't Sakura, herself, use "daisuki"? 

[abloublou]

 

But didn't Sakura, herself, use "daisuki"? 

Aikitteneru is rarely used for a confession of love, anyway...

[咲耶姫]

 

But didn't Sakura, herself, use "daisuki"? 

I won't go back on that matter. I already explained it well enough but people refuse to get that it's used romantically, they want to persist on the "family daisuki". 

[trang95]

I won't go back on that matter. I already explained it well enough but people refuse to get that it's used romantically, they want to persist on the "family daisuki". 

A lot of people are still in the denial stage when it comes to 693. I myself have accepted that she is still in love with Sasuke, but at least she acknowledges that her affection for him after everything he has done simply is pathetic.