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[FoolishYoungling]

There would be no reason for her to lie. Why come out and say I love you? She could of EASILY just said "Hey, Naruto, leggo back to Konoha." She didn't have to just come out and say "I love you." and give her big speech on WHY she loves him - then hug him and God knows what else she was going to do before he stopped her.
Someone else could explain this better than I can. Plus Kishi has mentioned before that she's portrayed as a honest girl.
Anyway,
There was no panels introducing what happened beforehand. Just Sakuras i love you (Which she should of been saying to Jordan. )

1. Plus, even Sai told Naruto that Sakura didn't come to confess, she came to tell him that everyone voted to just kill Sasuke.. so why tell him she loved him if she didn't come for that reason? To break his heart? Sounds unlike the Sakura we all know and love (well not the Sakura LA knows anyway).

2. IKR! Sakura needs to confess some things to me too! I'm glad I'm not the only supporter of JordSaku! Come on people! Join me in the JordSaku army! Together we can.. well.. nothing much.. BUT! If I saw Naruto hitting on my girl in front of me, I would.. well I couldn't do much.. DANGIT NARUTO, WHY YOU SO TOUGH AND AWESOME AT STUFF!?!?

edit: LOL, my post count is 911 right now..

Edited by Sakura Lover, 20 November 2011 - 01:47 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

No it doesn't. The guy just reminded her of her one sided crush on Sasuke and how she still carries remnants of those feelings which makes her feel sick and ashamed.

There would be no point in showing such development if it was just 'remnants of feelings' because by the time she accepts and loves Naruto she should be completely over them. At this point, there would be no reason for Kishi to force NS to happen without Sakura confronting and getting over those feelings that make her feel so hurt and ashamed. Naruto has already made it clear he wants her complete love when he called her out on her confession.

Note She's not blushing either, she hasn't about Sasuke the entire part 2 of the manga. Compare that to her scenes with Naruto, nearly every time she mentions something about her feelings for Naruto, and at times even just seeing Naruto causes her to lightly blush.

She blushed during the Sasuke/Sai sexy no jutsu *shrugs* She can't exactly blush over Sasuke when he isn't around, can she? And she certainly can't blush when she doesn't agree with his actions. This is different than her love, for her love revolves around the person she knew, not the person he is now. When she imagines the Sasuke she fell in love with, she is blushing in her memories. She really just has no reason to blush about the current Sasuke until he is redeemed.

In 469-70 she spelled it out loud and clear that she is in love with Naruto and what she wants is to be romantically totally devoted to him

Sorry, but there was no 'loud and clear' message, only that Sakura is very confused but tried to do what she thought was right. In the end it wasn't needed as Naruto will save Sasuke and Sakura agreed to just 'believe in them'. Over all, the whole thing was more about Naruto than anyone else. He had to hit his low, with problems coming from the girl he loves and Sasuke all at once and he making a choice.

Sai reinforces this in 474. Even Naruto gets that Sakura is in love with him to some degree, he looks a bit ashamed when Sai makes that emphasis about Sakura being in love Naruto and he should get that she was totally devoting what she was doing for his sake. Note as well the nonverbal interactions when Naruto rescues Sakura from Sasuke. Note as well Naruto's mental image of Sakura in chapter 505 page 2....

It's silly to panic at any scene that has Naruto interacting with Hinata or has Sakura thinking about Sasuke in any capacity and absolutely completely deny any scene that is obviously narusaku on Sakura's part as devoutly as the Sakura bashers.

Naruto made it completely clear that he believes Sakura is still in love with Sasuke. And with Sakura...well, it is clear that she...is confused...to say the least. I wish Sakura could get some good moments in besides just being pairing fodder >: I can't believe her last real fight was way back against Sasori.

[Rocket]

I don't see any confirmation of that being true, and don't give me that Sakura isn't a good actor couner-argument either...

The reason people believe that Sakura was lying is because that wasn't her initial reason why she wanted to talk to Naruto. Just because that wasn't her main reason it doesn't mean she was completely lying during her confession [sans the Sasuke part]. The others weren't suspecting that she was lying about her feelings, there's no evidence of this. They were just exasperated because she hid what she was meant to tell Naruto. This is shown when Kiba asks Sakura "should we tell him the truth?" meaning that he was asking her if she should tell Naruto the main reason she came to talk to him, not to tell him that she was lying about her feelings.

And now my arm hurts from typing this on my Wii.

[Don-kun]

There would be no point in showing such development if it was just 'remnants of feelings' because by the time she accepts and loves Naruto she should be completely over them. At this point, there would be no reason for Kishi to force NS to happen without Sakura confronting and getting over those feelings that make her feel so hurt and ashamed. Naruto has already made it clear he wants her complete love when he called her out on her confession.


She blushed during the Sasuke/Sai sexy no jutsu *shrugs* She can't exactly blush over Sasuke when he isn't around, can she? And she certainly can't blush when she doesn't agree with his actions. This is different than her love, for her love revolves around the person she knew, not the person he is now. When she imagines the Sasuke she fell in love with, she is blushing in her memories. She really just has no reason to blush about the current Sasuke until he is redeemed.


Sorry, but there was no 'loud and clear' message, only that Sakura is very confused but tried to do what she thought was right. In the end it wasn't needed as Naruto will save Sasuke and Sakura agreed to just 'believe in them'. Over all, the whole thing was more about Naruto than anyone else. He had to hit his low, with problems coming from the girl he loves and Sasuke all at once and he making a choice.


Naruto made it completely clear that he believes Sakura is still in love with Sasuke. And with Sakura...well, it is clear that she...is confused...to say the least. I wish Sakura could get some good moments in besides just being pairing fodder >: I can't believe her last real fight was way back against Sasori.

I agree. People act like she deeply love Naruto at this point. she like Sasuke, but doesn't mean she doesn't have romantic feelings for Naruto as well only that in that romantic department Sasuke come first. If I remember correctly, part of the reason she tried to persuade him to stop pursuing Sasuke was because she didn't want to see him killed she deeply care about hime even more that Sasuke. Plus she attempted to kill Sasuke herself because she didn't want Naruto to bear the burden anymore Sakura care about Naruto but Sasuke is beating him in the romantic area. Sakura will chose Naruto's life over Sasuke's speaks by itself if you ask who is more important to her.

Edited by donjoseph19, 20 November 2011 - 02:05 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

The reason people believe that Sakura was lying is because that wasn't her initial reason why she wanted to talk to Naruto. Just because that wasn't her main reason it doesn't mean she was completely lying during her confession [sans the Sasuke part]. The others weren't suspecting that she was lying about her feelings, there's no evidence of this. They were just exasperated because she hid what she was meant to tell Naruto. This is shown when Kiba asks Sakura "should we tell him the truth?" meaning that he was asking her if she should tell Naruto the main reason she came to talk to him, not to tell him that she was lying about her feelings.

And now my arm hurts from typing this on my Wii.

1. They didn't know much because she just told them to let her do all the talking.. she never told them what her actual plans were.. sneaky Sakura.

2. I can fix your arm! *gets out a baseball bat* ready?

[Miss Soupy]

The reason people believe that Sakura was lying is because that wasn't her initial reason why she wanted to talk to Naruto. Just because that wasn't her main reason it doesn't mean she was completely lying during her confession [sans the Sasuke part].

Certainly not every word out of her mouth was a lie. She said some truthful things. But we are talking about her 'i love you' part of the confession. As in, she was stating she loved Naruto and only Naruto. That is what a confession generally is, not 'I love you but I also love this guy and its all very confusing...yada yada'.

Is this really the confession we desire to see as the end all to the relationship problems? Is this how we want NS to start, by surrounding some truth with some lies? For me, that is not acceptable, and that's why this botched confession means very little to me. As much as NS fans like to complain about NH, at least Hinata was being 100% truthful when she confessed. I would like the true NS confession to be the same. 100% truthful, 100% ready.

The others weren't suspecting that she was lying about her feelings, there's no evidence of this.

The others don't really care about the romance issue. They are out there doing their jobs. Their job was to tell Naruto they want to kill Sasuke. Sakura attempted to remove Naruto another way, but it failed. That is why Kiba wanted to just come out and say it. It actually supports that Sakura's confession was a plan rather than a desire to admit feelings. Sakura even says herself she just wanted him to come back to the village with her. She knew just telling him that they wanted to kill Sasuke would make it harder for them to do so. She knew how he would react (Sai tells us this), but she wanted to try and get him to safety without his realizing the truth. She was doing it for a good reason, but it was still a mild form of manipulation on her part.

And now my arm hurts from typing this on my Wii.

That'd be hard to type all that on the wii XDD;;

[Rocket]

They didn't know much because she just told them to let her do all the talking.. she never told them what her actual plans were..

Exactly right. I don't know why I didn't mention it though.

As much as NS fans like to complain about NH, at least Hinata was being 100% truthful when she confessed.

She was doing it for a good reason, but it was still a mild form of manipulation on her part.

True, Hinata's confession was truthful while Sakura's had some manipulative vibe to it, but you just said it yourself, Sakura did it for a good reason, a selfless reason. Hinata's however, is the opposite, which she even admits so herself. She doesn't have has much faith in Naruto as Sakura does, and Naruto stated that no one should get involved. What did Hinata do? She jumped in front of him and confessed her love, thinking he was going to die, and not listening to what he had said previously. Although she knew that she didn't stand a chance against Pain, she just wanted to do something. I feel that it was just centered around her own feelings and all that other stuff, which is why I thought that Hinata's confession, albeit very truthful, was selfish as opposed to Sakura's manipulative but selfless confession. But meh, that's just me.

That'd be hard to type all that on the wii XDD;;

I hereby confirm that debating while on WiiConnect24 is a huge pain in the ass. My arm's about to fall off...

[Fenris]

Is this really the confession we desire to see as the end all to the relationship problems? Is this how we want NS to start, by surrounding some truth with some lies? For me, that is not acceptable, and that's why this botched confession means very little to me. As much as NS fans like to complain about NH, at least Hinata was being 100% truthful when she confessed. I would like the true NS confession to be the same. 100% truthful, 100% ready.

At least I agree with this part of it. I want a truthful confession, full of all truth. But whether or not Sakura went there to confess or not, she still said she loved him, and I believe there is reasons to believe that part of that is true. Whether or not she still has lingering feelings for Sasuke, whatever. The reason is that she confessed to Naruto that she loved him. She told him she could be herself with him. She was ready to kill Sasuke to release the burden off of him - That's love. Whether or not, like I said, she still has feelings for Sasuke is another story.

I do want a confession though, I agree, 100% truthful and faithful on Sakuras part to Naruto that says she loves him and ONLY him. With a big sloppy hot kiss.

Edited by iamfenris, 20 November 2011 - 03:09 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

True, Hinata's confession was truthful while Sakura's had some manipulative vibe to it, but you just said it yourself, Sakura did it for a good reason, a selfless reason. Hinata's however, is the opposite, which she even admits so herself. She doesn't have has much faith in Naruto as Sakura does, and Naruto stated that no one should get involved. What did Hinata do? She jumped in front of him and confessed her love, thinking he was going to die, and not listening to what he had said previously. Although she knew that she didn't stand a chance against Pain, she just wanted to do something. I feel that it was just centered around her own feelings and all that other stuff, which is why I thought that Hinata's confession, albeit very truthful, was selfish as opposed to Sakura's manipulative but selfless confession. But meh, that's just me.

I tend to wonder if it had been Sakura who jumped in to take on Pain instead of Hinata, would we still disagree with the actions? Assuming Naruto still yelled for her to get out. Yes, Hinata confessing was selfish on her part, she admitted it and it's true, but I don't really think her actions themselves were entirely negative. Sure she didn't stand a chance, but it's not like we condemn Sakura for jumping towards Kyuubi-fied Naruto earlier either.

And yes, Sakura was doing things for the right reasons, but I don't really agree it was entirely selfless either. She had just been dealt a huge amount of guilt by Sai, and even though she shouldn't have felt entirely at fault, it seems obvious that it was that guilt that caused some of her actions. If that was the case and she was acting, in some small way, out of guilt, it can't be said it was entirely selfless.

I still feel, at this point, Kishi intends Naruto to have made the only selfless love act in the story. I mean, the hero is just supposed to look better, usually, so it shouldn't be that surprising. Course by the end he should be getting an equally selfless love act from Sakura <3

I hereby confirm that debating while on WiiConnect24 is a huge pain in the ass. My arm's about to fall off...

[Fenris]

I tend to wonder if it had been Sakura who jumped in to take on Pain instead of Hinata, would we still disagree with the actions? Assuming Naruto still yelled for her to get out. Yes, Hinata confessing was selfish on her part, she admitted it and it's true, but I don't really think her actions themselves were entirely negative. Sure she didn't stand a chance, but it's not like we condemn Sakura for jumping towards Kyuubi-fied Naruto earlier either.

And yes, Sakura was doing things for the right reasons, but I don't really agree it was entirely selfless either. She had just been dealt a huge amount of guilt by Sai, and even though she shouldn't have felt entirely at fault, it seems obvious that it was that guilt that caused some of her actions. If that was the case and she was acting, in some small way, out of guilt, it can't be said it was entirely selfless.

I still feel, at this point, Kishi intends Naruto to have made the only selfless love act in the story. I mean, the hero is just supposed to look better, usually, so it shouldn't be that surprising. Course by the end he should be getting an equally selfless love act from Sakura <3

Yeah haha he should get a selfless confession from Sakura <3
Anyway besides that, do you think that Sakura was telling the truth of the 'i love you' to some degree? At least even though she still has lingering feelings for Sasuke.

[Miss Soupy]

Yeah haha he should get a selfless confession from Sakura <3
Anyway besides that, do you think that Sakura was telling the truth of the 'i love you' to some degree? At least even though she still has lingering feelings for Sasuke.

I don't think Sakura was thinking of feelings of love when she said 'I love you' at the start. I think she was thinking about what her plan was and to sound convincing and to not lose focus on why she was there. It's weird that we don't even hear the start of the conversation, but instead Kishi sends us in as Sakura is repeating the line. Strange right? And then we get that long drawn out page of Naruto's expression changing from happy to disbelief... The part where she was truly showing her feelings was later, when she is talking about what he means to her. That I believe was truthful. I just don't know if she realizes how truthful those feelings are, and how important they are. I think she is still too caught up in her angst over Sasuke that she just can't really see them yet.

[Rocket]

And yes, Sakura was doing things for the right reasons, but I don't really agree it was entirely selfless either. She had just been dealt a huge amount of guilt by Sai, and even though she shouldn't have felt entirely at fault, it seems obvious that it was that guilt that caused some of her actions. If that was the case and she was acting, in some small way, out of guilt, it can't be said it was entirely selfless.

True, true. I get what you mean. It's just that in my first post I wanted to tell some people that I'm so sick and fed up with others using Sai and Naruto's conversation in 474 and Kiba's question before the end of the confession as proof that she's a "stupid b#tch for completely lying" or whatever. I just wanted to get it out that Sai didn't saying she lied, but rather, the confession wasn't her original intention. So there, without that argument, it's a possibility that Sakura was being truthful. Besides, in 474, Naruto didn't say that he knew she was lying, he said that he knew she was hiding something.

But yeah, it was kind of weird that Sakura went and confessed just right after Sai told her of Naruto's feelings, which should have been obvious from the beginning. Oh but that's right, Sakura was blinded of that because she had feelings for Sasuke. Regardless, she still should have noticed, but maybe not being people smart is what she gets for being so book smart XD just like how Naruto never noticed Hinata's feelings for him until she confessed, but then again he's just too dense X'DD /coughlikewhenshionaskedhimtobeherbabysdaddyinthefirstshippudenmoviecough.

Anyways, a part of me says that the confession was not entirely true because, like I said, she confessed straight after being sent on a guilt trip by the emotionally retarded Sai, and the fact that it seemed quite forced, like she loves Naruto because of all his pain and because she should love him instead of a guy like Sasuke, but another part of me says it was completely true because the stuff she said about Naruto when she embraced him is, well, true since that's stuff we've heard before, and we can always look back on the chapters that confirm that.

Oh well, at least, even with her lingering feelings for Sasuke, she understands that he's an international criminal that needs to be stopped before he crashes the party even more.

I still feel, at this point, Kishi intends Naruto to have made the only selfless love act in the story. I mean, the hero is just supposed to look better, usually, so it shouldn't be that surprising. Course by the end he should be getting an equally selfless love act from Sakura <3

Yeah haha he should get a selfless confession from Sakura <3

Yeah, I can't wait for Sakura's next confession if she makes one, and one that's super duper selfless. One that shows she's really chosen Naruto <33

And let's hope that it's before the final battle, or else... /takes out 50 cal

COME ON KISHI-SENSEI! WE'RE DYING FOR YOU TO BRING UP THE NS PHANSURRVEES WE NS FANATICS HAVE BEEN LUSTING FOR!!

Hey Soupy-san, check this cool stuff out yo! /shows off shiny new automail RIGHT arm.

Wanna know how I got it done in three minutes instead of three years?
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That's what happens when you have a mom who is too freaking lazy to give away the toy genie lamp that comes with those stupid Bratz dolls.

EDIT: I accidentally said hours instead of years. Oops

Edited by Rocket, 20 November 2011 - 05:56 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

Sorry if I'm off topic, but I just relized that Naruto was blushing in the bottom middle panel

http://www.mangaread...hapter-253.html

And the Lady Chiyo called her like Tsunade... JiraTsun=NaruSaku wins once again...

[Fenris]

And the Lady Chiyo called her like Tsunade... JiraTsun=NaruSaku wins once again...

XD Yup.

And about the whole sakura confession debate, I can see we all have different opinions on that. I'm sticking to my theory of Sakura loving Naruto/confused about Sasuke, but still having strong feelings for Naruto and just not realizing it yet.

Anyyyway.. I loved that chapter.
Sorta like here
http://i29.mangaread...uto-1567525.jpg

[Darth Krypt]

I've mentioned this a few months ago so I'll mention it again.

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"I've done nothing but mistakes. I don't want to make another one." Then she decides to confess to Naruto right after thinking that. If she didn't have feelings for Naruto then wouldn't the confession be a mistake? She said she has caused the most pain to Naruto. If her feelings are false then wouldn't she'll be hurting Naruto more? That would make Sakura an ultra-b!tch hypocrite. Therefore unless she is an ultra-b!tch hypocrite, it is confirmed that Sakura really loves Naruto romantically.

When she made that statement I was thinking that it sounds like something that would lead to a confession. The "mistake" that she was talking about sounded like missing a chance to be with someone who loves you alot. I was sceptical at first but when the confession happened I shat bricks. I didn't expect the confession to come out so easily. But we can't deny that the confession felt forced and what Naruto said is true. She still has feelings for Sasuke. Just look at her expression when Shikamaru declared they are going to bring Sasuke down in that whole chapter(459). I wouldn't be satisfied if the confession was canon because Sasuke is still a big obstacle for NS even though SS is one sided. That's what I believe Kishi is doing with chapter 540: to resolve her feelings for Sasuke.

The point LA and donjoseph is trying to make is that it is not yet confirmed that Sakura loves Naruto romantically. I've gave my reasons why it is confirmed that she does in fact have feelings for Naruto but also Sasuke. As of right now, she still has feelings for Sasuke so NS is not canon yet.

[Fenris]

I've mentioned this a few months ago so I'll mention it again.

look --Click here to view--

"I've done nothing but mistakes. I don't want to make another one." Then she decides to confess to Naruto right after thinking that. If she didn't have feelings for Naruto then wouldn't the confession be a mistake? She said she has caused the most pain to Naruto. If her feelings are false then wouldn't she'll be hurting Naruto more? That would make Sakura an ultra-b!tch hypocrite. Therefore unless she is an ultra-b!tch hypocrite, it is confirmed that Sakura really loves Naruto romantically.

When she made that statement I was thinking that it sounds like something that would lead to a confession. The "mistake" that she was talking about sounded like missing a chance to be with someone who loves you alot. I was sceptical at first but when the confession happened I shat bricks. I didn't expect the confession to come out so easily. But we can't deny that the confession felt forced and what Naruto said is true. She still has feelings for Sasuke. Just look at her expression when Shikamaru declared they are going to bring Sasuke down in that whole chapter(459). I wouldn't be satisfied if the confession was canon because Sasuke is still a big obstacle for NS even though SS is one sided. That's what I believe Kishi is doing with chapter 540: to resolve her feelings for Sasuke.

The point LA and donjoseph is trying to make is that it is not yet confirmed that Sakura loves Naruto romantically. I've gave my reasons why it is confirmed that she does in fact have feelings for Naruto but also Sasuke. As of right now, she still has feelings for Sasuke so NS is not canon yet.

Ah Darth Krypt, you read my mind when it comes to the "I don't want to make another mistake." I totally thought the same thing. She'd be a stupid @ss if she'd say that and then go tell Naruto she loves him and be lying about it, I mean really, who does that? That's horrible and mean. I agree. you are my post hero
You totally saved me from typing a huge post similar to this one and you explained it so much better than i could of.

Edit: Did I say dark instead of darth before? XD typo.

Edited by iamfenris, 20 November 2011 - 05:53 AM.

[Gyro136]

I love Sakura and I love Naruto
I hate Sasuke and strongly thing Sakura don't love him, but for me to say that Sakura deeply love Naruto is not right.

She deeply care about him? yes

She will defend Naruto rather than Sasuke? yes

Would she choose to save Naruto's life if she has to choose one? i will strongly say yes.

Is Naruto closer to Sakura heart? yes

Will she risk her life for him? again yes


Remove all Sasuke bias, revenge murder attempts and ask Sakura who she likes?

there you get your answer
She is depressed, sad and ashamed because she like the wrong person, Sasuke is not a good man.

Again when she question her feelings for Sasuke vs her feelings for Naruto then we may say that.

You are AMAZING MY FRIEND! : )

[FoolishYoungling]

I've mentioned this a few months ago so I'll mention it again.

look --Click here to view--

"I've done nothing but mistakes. I don't want to make another one." Then she decides to confess to Naruto right after thinking that. If she didn't have feelings for Naruto then wouldn't the confession be a mistake? She said she has caused the most pain to Naruto. If her feelings are false then wouldn't she'll be hurting Naruto more? That would make Sakura an ultra-b!tch hypocrite. Therefore unless she is an ultra-b!tch hypocrite, it is confirmed that Sakura really loves Naruto romantically. When she made that statement I was thinking that it sounds like something that would lead to a confession. The "mistake" that she was talking about sounded like missing a chance to be with someone who loves you alot. I was sceptical at first but when the confession happened I shat bricks. I didn't expect the confession to come out so easily. But we can't deny that the confession felt forced and what Naruto said is true. She still has feelings for Sasuke. Just look at her expression when Shikamaru declared they are going to bring Sasuke down in that whole chapter(459). I wouldn't be satisfied if the confession was canon because Sasuke is still a big obstacle for NS even though SS is one sided. That's what I believe Kishi is doing with chapter 540: to resolve her feelings for Sasuke.

The point LA and donjoseph is trying to make is that it is not yet confirmed that Sakura loves Naruto romantically. I've gave my reasons why it is confirmed that she does in fact have feelings for Naruto but also Sasuke. As of right now, she still has feelings for Sasuke so NS is not canon yet.

Of course! Why haven't I thought of this before! Kishi is great with hints..

[Fenris]

Of course! Why haven't I thought of this before! Kishi is great with hints..

He is isn't he?
I actually forgot about what Darth had said until he mentioned it. It makes a lot of sense. Oh how I love how Kishi seemingly supports the NS fandom

Edited by iamfenris, 20 November 2011 - 06:03 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

He is isn't he?
I actually forgot about what Darth had said until he mentioned it. It makes a lot of sense. Oh how I love how Kishi seemingly supports the NS fandom

What is this? You dare support NS over JS? I thought you were helping me in the fight to make JordSaku canon?