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[Insurrection]

Hopestar for congress!
This is probably with every generation but is it me or did the Boomers screw us?

Edited by Insurrection, 07 March 2010 - 05:47 PM.

[Strangelove]

My dear friends

We go through this with every single politician we elect into office rather they are local, state, or federal. Have there been any elective that go follows through with EVERY SINGLE PROMISE they claim during elections? No!

In my opinion Obama is better than most, he's looking towards the future through his actions of the following...
Healthcare: will be a huge thing in the next 10 years because the Boomer generation will be retiring & there isn't enough demand of medical professionals to help out. Take Japan for instance; their senior citizens make up 40% of the population and that's huge my friends.
Energy: We cannot continue to rely on other nations. We need to stop using oil because there's none here and we give the muslims at east our money as they are growing rich, we are growing poor. He building a nuclear plant for the 1st time in 30 yrs and that will create new jobs. He has even teamed up with other American energy moguls on the green movement which are resources we have here in the state and those will bring new jobs making us an producer which we haven't been in years.
Economy: The US need to become an producing nation. Our jobs are floating away to cheaper nations. Don't compare us to China or India because damnit they got money because are producers and keeping a balance of being consumers while we are losing money because of arrogance & greed.
Education: This can go out in so many ways but Obama wants to improve our system. While our universities are great below that its horrid! Our Asian & European counterparts excel better are bery much ahead of us. By the time they go to college they are ready while we aren't. I think no one should dropout from HS (especially if you're black or hispanic).

You fix it with technology, not regulation, or deregulation but with technology, if America is to survive this century as the greatest nation on Earth, then it needs to copy the example of the Chinese and the Indians and invest in new technology. For HC-stem cell research, Energy-nuclear power plants, Economy-newer, and faster cool stuff, Education-the internet.

Everything else, is just plain Humbug.

[Nee-sama]

My dear friends

We go through this with every single politician we elect into office rather they are local, state, or federal. Have there been any elective that go follows through with EVERY SINGLE PROMISE they claim during elections? No!

In my opinion Obama is better than most, he's looking towards the future through his actions of the following...
Healthcare: will be a huge thing in the next 10 years because the Boomer generation will be retiring & there isn't enough demand of medical professionals to help out. Take Japan for instance; their senior citizens make up 40% of the population and that's huge my friends.
Energy: We cannot continue to rely on other nations. We need to stop using oil because there's none here and we give the muslims at east our money as they are growing rich, we are growing poor. He building a nuclear plant for the 1st time in 30 yrs and that will create new jobs. He has even teamed up with other American energy moguls on the green movement which are resources we have here in the state and those will bring new jobs making us an producer which we haven't been in years.
Economy: The US need to become an producing nation. Our jobs are floating away to cheaper nations. Don't compare us to China or India because damnit they got money because are producers and keeping a balance of being consumers while we are losing money because of arrogance & greed.
Education: This can go out in so many ways but Obama wants to improve our system. While our universities are great below that its horrid! Our Asian & European counterparts excel better are bery much ahead of us. By the time they go to college they are ready while we aren't. I think no one should dropout from HS (especially if you're black or hispanic).

Well, you're right about people going through this with every politician in office. But the fact is that Obama has yet to follow through on any single promise except providing jobs. No one expects him to get everything perfect, anyway. For the most part I agree with you but:

There is oil around here, but we're not allowed to drill it because of the efforts of environmentalists.
Indeed we can't be compared to China because they practically enslave their lower and middle class, not to mention children stolen from their homes.

[ciardha]

http://www.correntew..._wrong_question

[Sakura Blossoms]

http://www.correntew..._wrong_question

Unfortunately, Obama will never 'Kill the Bill'. More than likely that bill will continue to kill 'him' politically, as he continues to ride this sinking ship until the very end.

[ShippudenGirl]

Threats against Obama spike to a record high:

http://news.yahoo.co...r/obama_threats

My goodness... But at the threat in poem. Obama really needs to step it up, he hasn't done anything for this country as far as I can see (Not really a politics girl)
Can't the threats and lack of change in the economy get it through his head.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 08 March 2010 - 02:08 AM.

[socermania2]

My goodness... But at the threat in poem. Obama really needs to step it up, he hasn't done anything for this country as far as I can see (Not really a politics girl)
Can't the threats and lack of change in the economy get it through his head.

Well, we're not making it easy, are we?

HEALTHCARE is going down to the wire.

[Sakura Blossoms]

My question is doesn't Obama realize that he is continuing to dig his and every other Democrat's political grave by continuing to steamroll forward this bill that:

No one wants!

[socermania2]

Oh, they know what they are doing. They are digging their graves happily.

And, I feel this is watered down, but it's a start.

[Sakura Blossoms]

And, I feel this is watered down, but it's a start.

I highly approved of the Senate Healthcare bill that passed. This mess of a bill that they're now trying to pass in the House is a horrible waste of what that Senate bill used to be.

[Insurrection]

Can't I just know what's in it. If it passes we complain and say it's a debt mountain and a giveaway to the insurance companies, If it fails then we complain and say it's a debt mountain and a giveaway to the insurance companies. Why doesn't anyone want to do their job anymore!?!

[ShippudenGirl]

Uh, Breaking News?

http://www.msnbc.msn...d=MSNToolbar100

[CloudMountainJuror]

Abraham Lincoln FTW o.o enough said (XD)
lol I'm not much into politics... As you can probably tell XD

[Nate River]

Uh, Breaking News?

http://www.msnbc.msn...d=MSNToolbar100

I have to wonder if Stupak isn't the dumbest man in Congress. Exactly what compels Obama to honor this promise once he has his bill and what assures does he have if the order does conflict with the bill (which by implication seems to be the case, otherwise why is it even necessary) that it will be honored by a court as opposed to...you know...the actual text of the bill?

Even if Obama does honor it, what happens when catches hell from his base AFTER this bill passes and he no longer cares what Stupak thinks on the issue?

Either he's a first class dumbass or he was merely seeking political cover.

If I'm a serious pro-lifer, I'm pissed because this assurance is so unbelievably weak and depends entirely on probably the most pro-abortion president to ever assume the office.

Oh well...I hope you kiddies are really ready to pony up. The debt this thing is going to wrack up will be on your heads to pay. Oh and...don't take too much solace in the CBO score. It was obtained using tricks so fraudulent that Arthur Anderson would have been jealous.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Oh, where is all the *hope* and *change* gone to now.

[Nate River]

Oh, where is all the *hope* and *change* gone to now.

We're getting it.

[socermania2]

First vote has passed. 224 to 206

@Sakura

Senate version is watered down, and much more ineffective than the House version.

The problem I see is that Obama will have to raise taxes, if this wants to hold.

Edited by socermania2, 22 March 2010 - 12:16 AM.

[Pite]

I have to wonder if Stupak isn't the dumbest man in Congress. Exactly what compels Obama to honor this promise once he has his bill and what assures does he have if the order does conflict with the bill (which by implication seems to be the case, otherwise why is it even necessary) that it will be honored by a court as opposed to...you know...the actual text of the bill?

Even if Obama does honor it, what happens when catches hell from his base AFTER this bill passes and he no longer cares what Stupak thinks on the issue?

Either he's a first class dumbass or he was merely seeking political cover.

If I'm a serious pro-lifer, I'm pissed because this assurance is so unbelievably weak and depends entirely on probably the most pro-abortion president to ever assume the office.

Oh well...I hope you kiddies are really ready to pony up. The debt this thing is going to wrack up will be on your heads to pay. Oh and...don't take too much solace in the CBO score. It was obtained using tricks so fraudulent that Arthur Anderson would have been jealous.

People don't have short memories on the Capitol Hill. If yo promise something you're gonna have to go with it or else you're gonna make enemies, and enemies inside your own party are worse than Republicans. As of now we cannot say anything about the cost of the bill.

One thing I just don't want to comment what some congressmen said on the floor. "Communism"?"Socialism"? "Government take over"?" and " Soviet Russia V 2.0"? If that is a congressman then quite frankly I can see why some think that the world is going down hill.

[Insurrection]

Read federalist no 10! Seriously read it, James Madison was a smart dude.

[socermania2]

One thing I just don't want to comment what some congressmen said on the floor. "Communism"?"Socialism"? "Government take over"?" and " Soviet Russia V 2.0"? If that is a congressman then quite frankly I can see why some think that the world is going down hill.

People misunderstand the term.