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  1. Kataang - Katara/Aang (75 votes [58.59%])

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  2. Zutara - Zuko/Katara (27 votes [21.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.09%

  3. Both (5 votes [3.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.91%

  4. Neither (6 votes [4.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.69%

  5. Kick-a-pow! (15 votes [11.72%])

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#661 Nee-sama

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:11 PM

Considering he had every nationality cast except Asians he could have left the names unchanged. laugh.gif

As for sequels, even if they don't remake the first book I would still watch the second and third, although probably not in the theater, just to see the kids improve their bending. I liked the earth bending visual effects the best too, so I'd like to see Toph in action, as well as the kooky King Boomy.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jul 5 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh and regards to renaming a possible reboot "Avatar Aang", I heard, though if someone can confirm it, that James Cameron would've tried to sue if they did use the name Avatar on their title....


I didn't hear that. Plus, he wouldn't have had a case anyway. The show has been called Avatar Aang in other countries. Not to mention Avatar The Last Airbender has been out years before his Avatar movie was out in the first place. Also, the reason why they didn't use Avatar in the name was because they didn't want it being confused with James Cameron's Avatar. Although at this point a little mistaken name play probably would have helped more than hurt.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 07:50 PM

By that logic, Nickelodeon could have sued James Cameroon himself for using the word Avatar. I think so long as you don't follow the title exactly, you'll be fine.

@Nowhere Man-True, but that's why I said to film each book as one movie and then split each in two. For one thing, it would solve the age problem; you should have enough footage to show without the kids growing up too fast for one. Plus, even if the first one doesn't do that well box-office wise (not bombs, but does okay enough that it wasn't a waste of money), you'll still have another film to show. The studio will distribute it, since they put that much into production, so they will want the money back for that other half. If the first one had enough word of mouth to say it's great, the sequel will do even better, and from there more sequels could be greennlit. I may be a bit off on how the studios operate, but I think it's a strategy worth trying.

@SakuBloss-I suppose. But I really think that's the minority. If the whole fanbase and general mass hates the movie, it's not going to have the legs to make a sequel. If the Harry Potter films were handled poorly, enough so that the entire fanbase cries "blasphemy!" and not much better with critics, it would have ended with Sorceror's Stone. Some may point out that despite poor reception from some of the fan base, the Star Wars prequels and Harry Potter movies have done well. But again, even most detractors from those franchises don't think the films are unwatchable, plus enough of the masses like the films as well. The only franchise I can think of that broke this trend were probably the Batman movies from the 90s, but that's probably because so many people may know nothing about Batman but know who he is. Overall, I hope that it plays out like how Hulk transitioned to Incredible Hulk (although I don't think the first was THAT bad).

Also, regarding how Night may be feeling about this, I'm convinced he's more concerned about the money that comes in than critical reception. I'm curious to hear from him what his daughter thinks (especially considering his daughter's favortie character is Katara and whom Night cast).

One thing that does shock me was that I did see some reviews on youtube from unofficial critics, who hated Night's latest works but loved this movie. They claimed that they hadn't seen the show but had no trouble following the story. Now, I'm thinking "WOW. I know the story, and I had no f*****g clue what was going on in the movie kruemelmonsteryn0.gif "

As for directors, a couple I would like to see give it a try are Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro, as both seem to be good at fantasy worlds (the latter will especially love to bring the creatures to life). A couple of others I'd like to see take a shot with the franchise would be Aang Lee (very fitting indeed, lol), Steven Spielberg, maybe Sam Rami, and whoever does the Harry Potter movies. I think those would be good choices, but I'm willing to listen to ideas of different directors.

Oh, and if not Sifu Kisu, get someone who can choreograph a fight, PLEASE.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (Kodachi Claws @ Jul 5 2010, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, and if not Sifu Kisu, get someone who can choreograph a fight, PLEASE.

lol in one of the fight scenes where the camera pans around I actually saw one guy sitting alone on his arse like he's waiting for his ride to come pick him up.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Kodachi Claws @ Jul 5 2010, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One thing that does shock me was that I did see some reviews on youtube from unofficial critics, who hated Night's latest works but loved this movie. They claimed that they hadn't seen the show but had no trouble following the story. Now, I'm thinking "WOW. I know the story, and I had no f*****g clue what was going on in the movie kruemelmonsteryn0.gif "


Night need to make a sequel to signs, now that would help him to burst his carrer!

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:29 AM

Here's something that I haven't taken into consideration. The overseas market. The overseas market might save The Last Airbender, which is what Paramount is banking on. It apparently turned around the PoP profits because the first month after it was released it wasn't looking close to covering its production cost.

Now, after two months after it's US released, after it was released in other countries, the PoP has grossed 314 million over it's 200 million production cost.

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QUOTE (No WhereMan @ Jul 5 2010, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's something that I haven't taken into consideration. The overseas market. The overseas market might save The Last Airbender, which is what Paramount is banking on. It apparently turned around the PoP profits because the first month after it was released it wasn't looking close to covering its production cost.

Now, after two months after it's US released, after it was released in other countries, the PoP has grossed 314 million over it's 200 million production cost.

True, but from what I've heard POP was still not the new POC franchise that Disney was hoping for. While the international market may save Airbender from coming short of it's production and marketing cost, the combination of abysmal critical reception and a potential drop in the box office in coming weeks could still keep Paramount from making a sequel. Plus, even if movies do do well overseas, I don't think a studio would put out another expensive product and bank on the international market alone. If it fails in America...I doubt they would even consider it.

But with all things, I guess we'll see.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:28 AM

QUOTE (No WhereMan @ Jul 5 2010, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's something that I haven't taken into consideration. The overseas market. The overseas market might save The Last Airbender, which is what Paramount is banking on. It apparently turned around the PoP profits because the first month after it was released it wasn't looking close to covering its production cost.

Now, after two months after it's US released, after it was released in other countries, the PoP has grossed 314 million over it's 200 million production cost.


Don't you think the Chinese and Japanese fans though may get disgruntled at the Fire Nation being Indian instead?

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 11:47 AM

I don't know, do they care about racial stereotypes in their movies in Japan and China?

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (No WhereMan @ Jul 5 2010, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's something that I haven't taken into consideration. The overseas market. The overseas market might save The Last Airbender, which is what Paramount is banking on. It apparently turned around the PoP profits because the first month after it was released it wasn't looking close to covering its production cost.

Now, after two months after it's US released, after it was released in other countries, the PoP has grossed 314 million over it's 200 million production cost.

It's always a possibility, but I wouldn't hedge my bets on it. It's not overly often that the overseas market eclipses the American one with this stuff, from what I know. It happens, but not often enough to count on it; a lot of times the overseas market helps enough to bring profits back to even on production cost, but not often enough to utterly kick ass. Prince of Persia kind of lucked out.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I doubt it's something anyone - Paramount included - is really banking on.

Also, while it received mixed reactions from critics, Prince of Persia fared much better with audiences, from what I hear; The Last Airbender is pretty much reviled by almost everyone who's seen it.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 03:44 AM

ok. Ill say this. i found a copy on a site which i will not name because I dont want them to get into trouble and itll more than likely be removed for copyright anyways.

I decded to try and watch it and see if this movie was in any ways salvageable. I decided to see it with an open mind and see for myself if it was trulyl as bad as Id read.

I can now report with full certainty.

that i didnt make it even a half hour into the movie. I trully cant believe that this movie made it out of the editing process much less into theaters.

it really honestly is as bad as everyone says it is. I couldnt even make it through the movie and ive sat through some bad ones in my time.

the dialogue is wooden at best, theres no flow to the dialogue, no build up nothing. Theres no emotional resonnance in the scenes. one of the biggest parts of the series is that Aang falls in love with Katara at first sight. There is literally no chemistry or even connection between them at all.

As an example when Aang is taken by the Fire Nation Katara says that he is their responsibility, but no explanation is given as to why, theres no set up no prior conenction established. we the audience are just supposed to believe that this country girl has developed this overwhelming sense of responisbility that makes her chase after this complete stranger whose only special thing is that she broke him out of the ice ball he was in.

this lack of connection between the characters just kills the enjoyment of the movie for me. Its like watching a bunch of mannequions interacting. the direciton and choreography are at best scattered at worst out right attrocious. The bending scenes look like they were choreographed by a 5 year old with a purple belt, and trust me this is coming from someone with nearly 20 years of martial arts experience. The humor in this movie is absent at best and attempts to inject humor into the movie are treated like trying to shove a brick through a round hole. the scene where Katara freezes sokka is one of them. its intended to come off as humorous but the set up to the punch line is worthless because we dont see any reason for Katara to be that incapable with her water bending save a small scene at the beginning where we see her water bend a fish.

we the audience are given no connection and no feeling of any sort for these characters. were given no way to egt to know them no chance to empathize with them. Even the scene where Aang discovers the remains of Monk Gyatso is flat as a pancake. Aang breaks down and cries out loud and goes avatar state then comes back all on his own with no help from katara save a ""well do it together"" speech.

the direction is horrid. Im supremely disappointed in Shyamaln on this one> a guy who directed a Gem like the sixth sense should be able to direct a movie where the scenes are laid out nice and neat for you.

but he cant. instead M. night seemingly takes the movie and just randomly snips scenes out trying to shoehorn the enitre first season into an hour and half movie. In the scene where the earth benders are captured Sokka makes a big deal about how this is the fire nations plan to deal with the other benders MUwahahahah!! but the drama of the entire scene is belied and ruined by the sheer idiocy of the fact that the fire nation has the earth benders trapped--get ready for this--

ON A PATCH OF FREAKING EARTH!

instead of on a metal monster of a prison or the rig of the series its a large patch of earth that were supposed to believe has these earth benders so terrified that they cant use the very element they bend which they are sitting on in abundance to escape and beat these invaders.

the only thing he gets right is the cinematography. The costumes, backgrounds and other effects do look like the series, if we were able to watch this movie with the sound off we could believe this is a live action movie based on the series Avatar the Last airbender.

unfortuantely at the price they are charging the movie is a horrendously bad waste of time and money. there are very few movies that I would consider walking out on in the middle of it and this is sadly one of them.

if the copy on the site survives I might try and force myself to watch the latter half of the movie to see if anything about it improves at all. but untill then if youll have my advice avoid it at all costs it just inst worth it. if not then see it at your own risk and make your own mind about it.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:47 PM

"The Legend of Korra" officially announced!

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SUMMARY: The Legend of Korra takes place 70 years after the events of Avatar: The Last Airbender and follows the adventures of the Avatar after Aang – a passionate, rebellious, and fearless teenaged girl from the Southern Water Tribe named Korra. With three of the four elements under her belt (Earth, Water, and Fire), Korra seeks to master the final element, Air. Her quest leads her to the epicenter of the modern “Avatar” world, Republic City – a metropolis that is fueled by steampunk technology. It is a virtual melting pot where benders and non-benders from all nations live and thrive. However, Korra discovers that Republic City is plagued by crime as well as a growing anti-bending revolution that threatens to rip it apart. Under the tutelage of Aang’s son, Tenzin, Korra begins her airbending training while dealing with the dangers at large.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE (blindeye @ Jul 21 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"The Legend of Korra" officially announced!

http://greenifyme.de...urnal/33704344/

SUMMARY: The Legend of Korra takes place 70 years after the events of Avatar: The Last Airbender and follows the adventures of the Avatar after Aang – a passionate, rebellious, and fearless teenaged girl from the Southern Water Tribe named Korra. With three of the four elements under her belt (Earth, Water, and Fire), Korra seeks to master the final element, Air. Her quest leads her to the epicenter of the modern “Avatar” world, Republic City – a metropolis that is fueled by steampunk technology. It is a virtual melting pot where benders and non-benders from all nations live and thrive. However, Korra discovers that Republic City is plagued by crime as well as a growing anti-bending revolution that threatens to rip it apart. Under the tutelage of Aang’s son, Tenzin, Korra begins her airbending training while dealing with the dangers at large.


Heh. Korra kinda sounds like Toph to me and we all knew how awesome she turned out to be! I can't wait! Even though my Zutara and Taang heart is still feeling the dull ache, the excitement of the new series should be able to push that out of my mind biggrin.gif

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (blindeye @ Jul 21 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"The Legend of Korra" officially announced!

http://greenifyme.de...urnal/33704344/

SUMMARY: The Legend of Korra takes place 70 years after the events of Avatar: The Last Airbender and follows the adventures of the Avatar after Aang – a passionate, rebellious, and fearless teenaged girl from the Southern Water Tribe named Korra. With three of the four elements under her belt (Earth, Water, and Fire), Korra seeks to master the final element, Air. Her quest leads her to the epicenter of the modern “Avatar” world, Republic City – a metropolis that is fueled by steampunk technology. It is a virtual melting pot where benders and non-benders from all nations live and thrive. However, Korra discovers that Republic City is plagued by crime as well as a growing anti-bending revolution that threatens to rip it apart. Under the tutelage of Aang’s son, Tenzin, Korra begins her airbending training while dealing with the dangers at large.



This sounds... awful. Steampunk? Really, steampunk?! And a modern Avatar world with a 'Republic City'? How does one go from over a hundred years of Chinese-themed technology and barely grasping at the straws of tribal civilizations and Edo-Japanese structures to STEAM PUNK?! One does not simply STEAMPUNK into Avatar!


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Posted 22 July 2010 - 12:36 AM

QUOTE (Kamina-Yoshi @ Jul 22 2010, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This sounds... awful. Steampunk? Really, steampunk?! And a modern Avatar world with a 'Republic City'? How does one go from over a hundred years of Chinese-themed technology and barely grasping at the straws of tribal civilizations and Edo-Japanese structures to STEAM PUNK?! One does not simply STEAMPUNK into Avatar!


Oh, come on now, steampunk is been pretty popular lately, lol! But I kinda like the settings, Korra Looks like a masculine version of Katara with that muscled built, haha, but I wonder how much characters from the previous series we will be seeing. I think Tenzin will be a little old like in his 60 or something.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (alexander @ Jul 21 2010, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, come on now, steampunk is been pretty popular lately, lol! But I kinda like the settings, Korra Looks like a masculine version of Katara with that muscled built, haha, but I wonder how much characters from the previous series we will be seeing. I think Tenzin will be a little old like in his 60 or something.


Steampunk is horrible. It's cheesy and every single film I have seen it in was completely rediculous and over the top. No one has tried to explain yet how this 'Little Village in the Arctic -> Steampunk City' thing comes about, so it's pretty mind-boggling (Not to mention IMPOSSIBLE). Also, why the hate for benders? What, the writers just ran out of ideas and just thought "Hey, let's make the benders be hated!" It's the Jedi Purge all over again, it's just bad. These people do so much good for everyone, even defeating those who would use bending for evil and the thanks they get is a fist-full of 'GTFO'? No. Just... no. NO.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the death of Avatar.


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Posted 22 July 2010 - 01:20 AM

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Steampunk is horrible. It's cheesy and every single film I have seen it in was completely rediculous and over the top. No one has tried to explain yet how this 'Little Village in the Arctic -> Steampunk City' thing comes about, so it's pretty mind-boggling (Not to mention IMPOSSIBLE). Also, why the hate for benders? What, the writers just ran out of ideas and just thought "Hey, let's make the benders be hated!" It's the Jedi Purge all over again, it's just bad. These people do so much good for everyone, even defeating those who would use bending for evil and the thanks they get is a fist-full of 'GTFO'? No. Just... no. NO.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the death of Avatar.


Overreact much? It's nice to know that despite the fact that not a single episode of this new series has aired yet, already it's considered the death of Avatar. Don't you think your exaggerating just a little bit?

To be honest I'm a bit surprised about the new direction myself. But I can't too infuriated by a little blurb of a summary.

You honestly loved the series. And unlike the failed step-child of a live-action movie, the original creators are behind the steering wheel on this one. Why not we wait till we have a little more. Hell, even a trailer first before we declare marshal law.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 01:52 AM

A new Avatar...so does that mean that Aang died? ;____;

If he did, I hope that he and Katara at least got to live out a good happy life together first shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 03:02 AM

Mmmm was I the only one who saw Tanks, a gaint mechanincal drilling vehicle, steam powered ships and an factory based industrial complex in the fire nation?

thats steampunk, as long as they dont clutter the landscape with guns the story shouldnt really be that different.
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A new Avatar...so does that mean that Aang died? ;____;

If he did, I hope that he and Katara at least got to live out a good happy life together first shamefulcry0js.gif

Uh, yeah. The Avatar is the physical embodiment of the spirit of the planet (of the Avatar world), so you can't have two of them at the same time. I'm personally glad of this; we already know Aang's story. After he masters the elements and defeats the Fire Nation, what more is there to tell? Nothing can stand up to a fully realized Avatar, and to me, it's much more entertaining to star completely new characters from the same world than recycle the old ones. Many franchises shift the focus to other characters as time goes on, like the UC Gundam universe, Star Wars, and RedWall.

Now, I'm a bit suspicious of the info the link is giving us. First off, it's from a deviantart page, not an official source.

However, assuming this is true, I have mixed feelings. Like I said, I'm glad they're telling the story of a new Avatar. The steampunk element at a glance seems out of place, but when you think of the Mechanist, it actually is a logical progression in technology, especially when considering they decided to inhabit the abandoned Air Temples. Another thing they seem to be doing right, which I was worried they would not, was to not make the Fire Nation the bad guys again. I'm very curious to see this anti-bender movement, as it sounds like a multi-national KKK. However, I don't see how on the whole they could be a major threat to an Avatar, let alone a normal bender. Also, if that person in the picture really is Kora, and Kora's supposed to be a girl, they need to go back to the drawing board.

I probably won't be able to check it out immediately when it's released, but even if this show disappoints, I'll still have the utmost respect for DiMartino and Kinetzco for creating what they did.

I also have to say, I've shown off the show to quite a few people recently, and they were all amazed by it! My nephew, who's turning 4, is really getting into the series (his favorite parts are when Aang and Appa fly), and I still remember when I showed it to him, he turned to me fifteen minutes in and said "This is the best movie ever!"

I also recently showed it to a friend of mine, who without knowing the source material was looking forward to the movie and was shocked to hear how bad it was. But I showed him the Northern Water Tribe episodes, and he was blown away. He then asked for the next one, and I told him that was the end of the season. He just looked at me in shock, and made a choking motion towards me yelling "I'LL KILL YOU!!!" laugh.gif (I chose those episodes because it's hard for us to consistently get together, and since they were supposed to have been the climax of the movie, I figured I would go with that).




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