I really hope there isn't anything from dragonquest for SS incoming moment. If sakura goes to sasuke and still tells him she loves him and wants him to comes home bla bla bla, i'd just think.... whats the point of her development if she will just revert to chasing after sasuke?

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#661
Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:06 AM
I really hope there isn't anything from dragonquest for SS incoming moment. If sakura goes to sasuke and still tells him she loves him and wants him to comes home bla bla bla, i'd just think.... whats the point of her development if she will just revert to chasing after sasuke?
#662
Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:28 AM
You know what's funny, when Minato saw the "abusive" part of NaruSaku, he smiled because it reminded of him and Kushina, which that means MinaKushi had an "abusive" relationship. Gotta love Kushina with her fist raising hell. Minato must went through rough time in a good way. Lol. I can't help but laugh at how Sakura headbutt Naruto. That's class.
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#663
Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:11 AM


Some good posts relating to this I found on Tumblr; 1.) Why are Sakura's punches/hits abusive, while this scene was only important for comedic purposes? Seems like a double standard to me. 2.) Even if the girlfriend scene was only put in for comedy, the last page where Naruto smiles fondly at Sakura definitely wasn't meant to be funny. Without a doubt, that was a serious NS moment.
Also, those posters are really underestimating the importance/power of parallels in this manga. If they actually noticed how many of them there are, maybe they would realize having the largest canon pairing (MinaKushi) on your side is a big plus. The "find someone like your mother" line just became 2x more important to NS this week.
And I'm just sick of the SS reaction. She looked at him in surprise. Sasuke didn't even spare her a second glance! It really speaks for the condition of SasuSaku when the two characters looking at each other is considered a romantic moment.

The bottom line is that Naruto and Sakura are as close as ever, Hinata is nowhere in sight, and Sasuke couldn't care less. NS isn't canon yet, but I can feel it coming.

This is a good post. I do believe some by most people didn't realize how big of a statement on Minato's partaking in the NS growth. His words to Sakura was a father's blessing that acknowledged her to be his son's mate and possibly in wedlock. This is huge and one of the best canon or nearly canon moments in NS history and sure to be the turning point once again of the pairing wars.
It's very typical the they would negate everything that pointed in NS's direction.
The debates I have with SS shippers is that they are desperately coming up with a bunch of nonsense arguments, stating that Sakura was wary of Sasuke because h tried to kill her before. I asked them this question, did this stop Karin from trampling him with hugs rather if it was an act or not, knowing that he nearly killed her? Why didn't Sakura confessed her feeling to him, knowing Sasuke is a good guy once again after they boasting how much Sasuke's darkside prevented her from opening up to him in Part 2 for many years? Non one SS shipper could answer me without trolling

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 23 May 2013 - 10:13 AM.
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#664
Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:19 AM
I was thinking about the moment where the white haired guy ( can't remember the name) tells the heroine that he can see that she is in love with the other protagonist (pop) and that she's worried about him more than a comrade. Plus he later tells her that he doesn't feel that way about her and that she should acknowledge her new feelings for the other guy. I honestly saw a big resemblance of those chapters from Dragon quest in the new Naruto, I'll go and find the pages to show you guys the similarities

What I also believe will happen is a confession from Naruto, maybe before the final battle or maybe at the end. We also have the ObiRin thing going on, so no worries.
Anyway the denial level is unbelievable, it really annoys me, they are trying to brainwash everyone with poor excuses.
They are pathetic.
Please and thank you.


There you go

Edited by LadyGT, 23 May 2013 - 10:41 AM.

#665
Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:38 AM

What I also believe will happen is a confession from Naruto, maybe before the final battle or maybe at the end. We also have the ObiRin thing going on, so no worries.
Anyway the denial level is unbelievable, it really annoys me, they are trying to brainwash everyone with poor excuses.
They are pathetic.
Problem is that Sasuke saying that is a bit OOC, but different than Dragon Quest Sakura got those things slowly and by different characters, who said she worries more about Naruto than a comrade was Yamato, and also Yamato again on the first part, second was the filler guy who told her that she should be in love with a great guy, the only part that is missing is that she acknowledges that she's in love with another guy who can may trigger with a confession from Naruto, or she finds out by herself.
I Honestly think that she really has a huge amount of development on this department i just feel OOC for Sasuke to reject Sakura again when on the entire part 2 different characters told her the stuff that it's described on your commentary.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 May 2013 - 10:39 AM.

#666
Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:20 AM
With her expression when she saw him I doubt she will want him to return. In fact she's not going to approve of him becoming Hokage like everyone else. Obviously they're going to vote for Naruto instead as expected.
#667
Posted 23 May 2013 - 12:01 PM
I Honestly think that she really has a huge amount of development on this department i just feel OOC for Sasuke to reject Sakura again when on the entire part 2 different characters told her the stuff that it's described on your commentary.
You find odd for Sasuke to reject Sakura? Wouldn't that be normal from his part?
But anyway I know that something like this won't happen, I wouldn't like it too that much, but I know that they will have to talk, that's for sure.


#668
Posted 23 May 2013 - 12:37 PM

What I also believe will happen is a confession from Naruto, maybe before the final battle or maybe at the end. We also have the ObiRin thing going on, so no worries.
Anyway the denial level is unbelievable, it really annoys me, they are trying to brainwash everyone with poor excuses.
They are pathetic.

There you go

So since kishi did give us a NS moment, even as just a ship tease and a parallel confirmation, what do you think will happen the moment they see one of these 3 things happen (if they do):
1. If Hinata basically goes supporting NaruSaku?
2. If Sasuke tells Sakura the same stuff kakashi told Rin?
3. Sakura herself gets over Sasuke and admits it to Naruto?
Heh I think its funny how the haters don't know who exactly to target with anger. Sakura? Well obviously they will do that. Minato must be a public enemy now for his statement


I did hear one funny quote from a hater, it was really amusing. "NS died back in 469 but apparently like all those other characters, it was reanimated with the edo tensei at the cost of NejiHina, now kishimotos statement makes me feel that with Minato, it sadly may become rinne tenseied like Madara is hoping too.
Well funny thing is, it never died.
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#669
Posted 23 May 2013 - 12:38 PM
This is always my favorite:
"NS fans don't know that a boy and a girl can be just friends"
Yeah, we do know this. We know Naruto and Hinata are just friends or at least that is how Naruto sees it anyway. It's them that can;t see that fact, but accuse us. Most of the arguments can be used against NH as well and maybe even more so than NS.
This is why I just ignore it and say "You're just mad cause you didn't get what you wanted."
#670
Posted 23 May 2013 - 12:48 PM
But anyway I know that something like this won't happen, I wouldn't like it too that much, but I know that they will have to talk, that's for sure.

I find odd is he talking about love, and making Sakura ot be rejected again will only makes thing worse, on dragon quest she asked for a chance, and was basically what Sakura did on her confession give a chance for Naruto and try to forget her feelings for Sasuke.
Differently than dragon quest Sakura has got development of her own to realize this for herself without the need of Sasuke, it's kinda dumb when on whole part 2 with people telling her about her feelings for Naruto and others telling her about love and what kind of guy she should be in love, to in the end she still has to question Sasuke, says that she loves him to get rejected again, if she really has to confess to Sasuke again, i could not care less about NaruSaku because all the development she had to move on doesnt make sense because in the end for her to move on is to get rejected by a redeemed Sasuke. LOL.
Also to finish up i just want to see what's the resolution of 540.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 May 2013 - 12:57 PM.

#671
Posted 23 May 2013 - 12:54 PM
Wait a minute...
Did you also watch the Dragon Quest anime?
Cool! I though everybody had forgotten about it (I watched it for first time in the middle nineties. TV channels were running out of Dragon Ball episodes to air, so they tried to pass Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken like another DB sequel).
Regarding the white-haired boy, I am sure of you are refering to Hyunkel. Anyway, that love polygon had no resolution in the series. Quoting tvtropes:
◦Merle blames herself for not having enough courage to confess her love when she had the chance, and begs Pop to say the name of the woman he loves, so she could learn what real courage looks like. After a moment of hesitation, Pops ask her to forgive him, because the woman he loves is Maamu. Keep in mind that Pop's confession is made in the middle of a battlefield, when Dai and company are about to assault Vearn's fortress for the definitive battle and Merle is literally dying on Pop's arms: Maamu gets crushed by Pop's confession and to make things even worse, seconds later Merle dies in Pop's arms. (She gets better, thanks to Pop having a Heroic BSOD that launched his magical ability off the scale.)
■Think it's already dramatic enough? Wrong! Maamu didn't take this confession very well and rejected Pop right off the bat, only to feel crushed by guilt later. (The way she treated him, the way Pop's odd behavior suddenly made sense, and the way she kept asking him for advice about her crush on Hyunkel... So yeah.
■Later, having regained their composure and finished their respective battles against the Shinei Kidan, Pop asks Maamu to not worry about him, since he already knew she loved Hyunkel and so he wishes them luck and he will do his best to be worthy of Merle's love. Maamu interrupts him, asking Pop for some time to sort her own feelings about him so she could give him an honest answer about accepting his love or not. In the end, their relationship is left with No Romantic Resolution
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#672
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:00 PM
Differently than dragon quest Sakura has got development of her own to realize this for herself without the need of Sasuke, it's kinda dumb when on whole part 2 with people telling her about her feelings for Naruto and others telling her about love and what kind of guy she should be in love, to in the end she still has to question Sasuke, says that she loves him to get rejected again, if she really has to confess to Sasuke again, i could not care less about NaruSaku because all the development she had to move on doesnt make sense because in the end for her to move on is to get rejected by a redeemed Sasuke. LOL
Oh no I didn't mean that she has to confess to sasuke again, what I thought is that maybe Sasuke can give her an answer to her confession, an asnwer that is not just a simple "Thank You" and explain why he doesn't love her. As I said before, this is an unlikely event, but it wouldn't bother me to see something like this, though it's too much shojo like. Not happening.
But anyway I agree on what you said, she has enough development to realize it by herself, that's why I'm confident


#673
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:13 PM
But anyway I agree on what you said, she has enough development to realize it by herself, that's why I'm confident

Me too, 540 could seal the deal after her own confession to Naruto when she said a lot of things about him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 May 2013 - 01:13 PM.

#674
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:35 PM
Also Sakura's been storing chakra!?!?!? Woah cant wait to see her full power, mixed with a little 9 tails chakra as well.
#675
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:41 PM
Differently than dragon quest Sakura has got development of her own to realize this for herself without the need of Sasuke, it's kinda dumb when on whole part 2 with people telling her about her feelings for Naruto and others telling her about love and what kind of guy she should be in love, to in the end she still has to question Sasuke, says that she loves him to get rejected again, if she really has to confess to Sasuke again, i could not care less about NaruSaku because all the development she had to move on doesnt make sense because in the end for her to move on is to get rejected by a redeemed Sasuke. LOL.
Also to finish up i just want to see what's the resolution of 540.
I dont think as of now she will try anything with sasuke other then to dump her remaining feelings on him and walk away.
#676
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:42 PM
1. If Hinata basically goes supporting NaruSaku?
2. If Sasuke tells Sakura the same stuff kakashi told Rin?
3. Sakura herself gets over Sasuke and admits it to Naruto?
Heh I think its funny how the haters don't know who exactly to target with anger. Sakura? Well obviously they will do that. Minato must be a public enemy now for his statement


I did hear one funny quote from a hater, it was really amusing. "NS died back in 469 but apparently like all those other characters, it was reanimated with the edo tensei at the cost of NejiHina, now kishimotos statement makes me feel that with Minato, it sadly may become rinne tenseied like Madara is hoping too.
Well funny thing is, it never died.
People are actually angry at Naruto. XD
I also find it funny when people brush Naruto's answer as a joke. It's like...joking about cheating on your girlfriend.

Honestly, he wouldn't do that, this also means that Hinata is friendzoned and not a potentional mate.
But I feel like if they see Hinata happy and maybe even supporting NS(this could give her development too, she should move on

What would make my day is that if someone tells Naruto or Sakura "I can see the way you feel". Maybe Sai to Sakura? I don't know if I'm hoping too much anymore, because this NS packed chapter was more than I expected.

Edited by sushi., 23 May 2013 - 01:42 PM.
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#677
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:44 PM
I can't see it. That said best to keep away from outside of fandom. No bashing at them at the very least.

What I also believe will happen is a confession from Naruto, maybe before the final battle or maybe at the end. We also have the ObiRin thing going on, so no worries.
Anyway the denial level is unbelievable, it really annoys me, they are trying to brainwash everyone with poor excuses.
They are pathetic.

There you go

Yeah, I do see what you mean. Also, ObiRin is still ongoing, but at this point, it's overkill because MinaKushi parallel is now confirmed. But....if Kishi insist, I am not arguing.

Oh yeah, I saw that pic. Lol. You know, there is one pretty good NS shirt design. You got to dig for it, but yeah, it looks good. I just wish the voting system didn't work the way by the hands of fans. I bet people are now pitying, so they may vote whatever possible other shippings. Meh.
This is always my favorite:
"NS fans don't know that a boy and a girl can be just friends"
Yeah, we do know this. We know Naruto and Hinata are just friends or at least that is how Naruto sees it anyway. It's them that can;t see that fact, but accuse us. Most of the arguments can be used against NH as well and maybe even more so than NS.
This is why I just ignore it and say "You're just mad cause you didn't get what you wanted."
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#678
Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:48 PM
Guess its time for another theory regarding Sakura's powerup but related to NS stuff. When she reveals this power, what if we get another NS moment along the lines of Naruto again going, "She never ceases to amaze me." or "Sakura you are awesome." Heck the mother of all these would be if he makes a forehead compliment slip out and if she later cross examines this stuff with Sasuke in a situation like this:
*Sakura reveals her power, a symbol appears on her forehead*
Naruto: "Wow Sakura, that symbol makes your forehead look more charming than I remember."
Sakura: 'What? What did you say?" *Looks at Sasuke* "Sasuke didn't you say something about my forehead the first day we became a team?"
Sasuke: "What are you talking about? All I remembered that day is Naruto ambushing me and -" (Sasuke doesn't give an f).
Naruto: *cuts Sasuke off* "Hey guys lets remember what we came here to do, save the world."
Sakura: *Looks at Naruto and smiles*
Just imagine if something related to the forehead compliment comes up, can you image the shock towards all NH and SS fans, it would be a turning point for Sakura. It would only nail the Sakura-Kushina parallel in harder.
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#679
Posted 23 May 2013 - 02:00 PM
Hinata says "sasuke kun as well so that means Hinata Loves Sasuke!! OH THE FEELs!
#680
Posted 23 May 2013 - 02:04 PM
Guess its time for another theory regarding Sakura's powerup but related to NS stuff. When she reveals this power, what if we get another NS moment along the lines of Naruto again going, "She never ceases to amaze me." or "Sakura you are awesome." Heck the mother of all these would be if he makes a forehead compliment slip out and if she later cross examines this stuff with Sasuke in a situation like this:
*Sakura reveals her power, a symbol appears on her forehead*
Naruto: "Wow Sakura, that symbol makes your forehead look more charming than I remember."
Sakura: 'What? What did you say?" *Looks at Sasuke* "Sasuke didn't you say something about my forehead the first day we became a team?"
Sasuke: "What are you talking about? All I remembered that day is Naruto ambushing me and -" (Sasuke doesn't give an f).
Naruto: *cuts Sasuke off* "Hey guys lets remember what we came here to do, save the world."
Sakura: *Looks at Naruto and smiles*
Just imagine if something related to the forehead compliment comes up, can you image the shock towards all NH and SS fans, it would be a turning point for Sakura. It would only nail the Sakura-Kushina parallel in harder.
If Minato commented on Sakura been like Kushina then no doubt Naruto will compliment her forehead just like Minato compliment Kushina's hair to finally finish the parallel. I have a feeling it will happen soon and then Sakura will realize it was Naruto all along who knew her so well.
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