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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:12 AM

The only reason sakura loves sasuke is because

-Bench scene, she thinks sasuke is the only person who acknowledge and can fulfill her dream

-He is cool and handsome guy alot of her classmate including her rival ino chase him, she thinks if she also chase sasuke everyone who bullied her will stop and acknowledge her, she thinks its cool if she has a boyfriend like that.

-That famous SS scene when sasuke leaving konoha to orochimaru, when sasuke say thank you to sakura and then put her to sleep, she thinks he love her. That's why she cannot kill sasuke when she had a chance at that bridge resulting she almost get killed by him and ofc thanks to naruto she survive.

 

Thats pretty much it for main reason, other reason that i believe also take part but never been explain by kishi:

-Because she still young and don't understand alot of things, even kushina admit she thinks minato behave like a girl and can't be dependable because she still young/immature. Same to sakura naruto is nuisance anoying, and always get in her way of being with sasuke.

 

Sakura never understand sasuke and sasuke never understand sakura. Sakura doesn't have any dream, all she have is daydreaming about sasuke.

About the trophy , trophy is object without soul the only think i agree is yes Hinata treat naruto as a trophy for her because she doesn't care about her sister her clan her friends she discard everything she have just to get naruto. But i don't realy agree about SS as trophy. If someone ask sakura "Hey sakura why do you love sasuke when he doesn't care and never come home to take care of you or sarada?" ,all she can do is silent and think about bench scene or that thank you scene when sasuke leave to orochimaru.

 

Some SS fans even comparing things like they said naruto never gave up on his dream of become hokage so sakura too never gave up on chasing sasuke that is true love and they think that is very sweet. You know never give up is good, but you are about to spend THE REST of your LIFE with a guy that never care about you. Sometimes give is not a bad idea , i agree to what orochimaru said to jiraya when he force orochimaru to come back to konoha "THERES LIMIT TO STUPIDITY".

Theres almost thin line between NEVER GIVE UP and STUPIDITY.

I agree with everything except the bolded  bc for 1. SS always make it look like Sasuke is a trophy for Sakura to won just bc "she loves him" for so long despite all the  s hit he did to her , its literary the same  thing NH does  Hinata deserves Naruto bc she loved him first and for so long  *inducing stupid illiterate ridiculous reasons* this is not even the mentality of an 5 year old :facepalm:.  

 

And 2. This ending made Sakura looks nothing past Sasuke  she's literary alone and with no friends bc its apparent that they all distanced themselves for the sake of their love interest :roll: Sakura's like his lackey beat up sick dog , she'll excuse everything he does bc its her "Prince Charming" and yet doesn't even know if he had glasses :facepalm:. SS happened bc Kish`t had no idea like he said bc it was convenient for NH to happen  and the biggest reason of all for why its a trophy is bc  "Women can't change their feelings" from their first crush :sick:  :twitch: . Boys feelings are irrelevant only our kittens matters  :zaru: . And this is why both NH/SS   are nothing but trophy parings there's no arguing this and NH/SS can both shove their stupid illiterate hypocritical ANS arguments straight up in their disgusting otaku's ars :sick: .        


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:20 AM

Believe me dude I used to read lots of sasusaku fanfics. That crap is OOC as hell. Naruto's usually tossed off to Hinata and they make Sasuke out to be this seductive Edward Cullen guy.

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:24 AM

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:31 AM

Let's not get into the whole "Sakura is a bad heroine debate."

 

She had potential but Kishi threw her character out the window to pander his moneymaking fandom. Let's just leave it at that.

Moneymaking? The people who financially support this series hate this ending. The ones who hated Sakura and loved this ending don't financial support the series.



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:36 AM

Moneymaking? The people who financially support this series hate this ending. The ones who hated Sakura and loved this ending don't financial support the series.

 

When you put it that way...... kishi shot himself in the foot huh ?/


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:59 AM

 

When you put it that way...... kishi shot himself in the foot huh ?/

Yes. That the problem. For SJ SP and Kishi at least since everything isn't selling what they were hoping it would.

 

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....This is what i get from not saving that link about sales figure from Japan. Now i can't find it on animenewnetwork.



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:08 AM

HA found it! http://myanimelist.n...topicid=1380894 April 27- May 3

 

*2. 38,436 *38,436 Naruto Hiden Vol.4

 

http://myanimelist.n...topicid=1383264 May 4-10

 

*3. 25,129 *63,565 Naruto Hiden Vol.4

20. *5,181 *91,842 Naruto Hiden Vol.3

21. *3,857 163,406 Naruto Hiden Vol.1

23. *3,735 113,910 Naruto Hiden Vol.2



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:26 AM

Well might as well do the math again. In total this 6 novel series has sold 432,723 copies in total.

 

I forgot how much they cost in Japan and what the exchange rate makes into when you convert it into dollars.

 

Amazon says it $8.50 so let use that. In theory they have made $3,678,145.50. Apparently that still bad for SP and SJ since from what i understand light novels cost as much as manga volumes. So that's the same as 4 Naruto manga volumes not selling 500,000 collectively.

Each novel seem to make somewhere around 100,000 by the end. So the novels collectively may sell anywhere from 600,000 sold to a little over a million sold.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:27 AM

I agree with everything except the bolded  bc for 1. SS always make it look like Sasuke is a trophy for Sakura to won just bc "she loves him" for so long despite all the  s hit he did to her , its literary the same  thing NH does  Hinata deserves Naruto bc she loved him first and for so long  *inducing stupid illiterate ridiculous reasons* this is not even the mentality of an 5 year old :facepalm:.  

 

And 2. This ending made Sakura looks nothing past Sasuke  she's literary alone and with no friends bc its apparent that they all distanced themselves for the sake of their love interest :roll: Sakura's like his lackey beat up sick dog , she'll excuse everything he does bc its her "Prince Charming" and yet doesn't even know if he had glasses :facepalm:. SS happened bc Kish`t had no idea like he said bc it was convenient for NH to happen  and the biggest reason of all for why its a trophy is bc  "Women can't change their feelings" from their first crush :sick:  :twitch: . Boys feelings are irrelevant only our kittens matters  :zaru: . And this is why both NH/SS   are nothing but trophy parings there's no arguing this and NH/SS can both shove their stupid illiterate hypocritical ANS arguments straight up in their disgusting otaku's ars :sick: .        

Yes i totally agree with you. But my point is at least sakura willing to be hate by naruto for the rest of her live by killing sasuke, IF she realy love sasuke you think she willing kill him?. I mean at least to sakura naruto is something MORE rather than sasuke. Sakura can't deny the fact that she still have lingering feelings for sasuke but at the same time her minds playing trick on her thinking that feeling is love, the one she love is naruto disguise as sasuke.

 

HA found it! http://myanimelist.n...topicid=1380894 April 27- May 3

 

*2. 38,436 *38,436 Naruto Hiden Vol.4

 

http://myanimelist.n...topicid=1383264 May 4-10

 

*3. 25,129 *63,565 Naruto Hiden Vol.4

20. *5,181 *91,842 Naruto Hiden Vol.3

21. *3,857 163,406 Naruto Hiden Vol.1

23. *3,735 113,910 Naruto Hiden Vol.2

Uh... i don't realy understand about marketing... can someone explain is this means successfull sales or average sales or bad sales?


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:38 AM

Yes i totally agree with you. But my point is at least sakura willing to be hate by naruto for the rest of her live by killing sasuke, IF she realy love sasuke you think she willing kill him?. I mean at least to sakura naruto is something MORE rather than sasuke. Sakura can't deny the fact that she still have lingering feelings for sasuke but at the same time her minds playing trick on her thinking that feeling is love, the one she love is naruto disguise as sasuke.

 

Uh... i don't realy understand about marketing... can someone explain is this means successfull sales or average sales or bad sales?

Oh yeah totally agree with that as well and I've always say that . Sakura didn't knew what real/true love is and she was learning about it by being with Naruto and seeing his actions , inspiring her and being her rock ,  realizing that Naruto is the one she truly loves that should have been the end to the Romance subplot And I especially agree about that scene which is contradictory as kitten  and another piece of evidence of Kishi's brilliant writing  :roll:.   


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:17 AM

The only reason sakura loves sasuke is because
-Bench scene, she thinks sasuke is the only person who acknowledge and can fulfill her dream
-He is cool and handsome guy alot of her classmate including her rival ino chase him, she thinks if she also chase sasuke everyone who bullied her will stop and acknowledge her, she thinks its cool if she has a boyfriend like that.
-That famous SS scene when sasuke leaving konoha to orochimaru, when sasuke say thank you to sakura and then put her to sleep, she thinks he love her. That's why she cannot kill sasuke when she had a chance at that bridge resulting she almost get killed by him and ofc thanks to naruto she survive.
 
Thats pretty much it for main reason, other reason that i believe also take part but never been explain by kishi:
-Because she still young and don't understand alot of things, even kushina admit she thinks minato behave like a girl and can't be dependable because she still young/immature. Same to sakura naruto is nuisance anoying, and always get in her way of being with sasuke.
 
Sakura never understand sasuke and sasuke never understand sakura. Sakura doesn't have any dream, all she have is daydreaming about sasuke.
About the trophy , trophy is object without soul the only think i agree is yes Hinata treat naruto as a trophy for her because she doesn't care about her sister her clan her friends she discard everything she have just to get naruto. But i don't realy agree about SS as trophy. If someone ask sakura "Hey sakura why do you love sasuke when he doesn't care and never come home to take care of you or sarada?" ,all she can do is silent and think about bench scene or that thank you scene when sasuke leave to orochimaru.
 
Some SS fans even comparing things like they said naruto never gave up on his dream of become hokage so sakura too never gave up on chasing sasuke that is true love and they think that is very sweet. You know never give up is good, but you are about to spend THE REST of your LIFE with a guy that never care about you. Sometimes give is not a bad idea , i agree to what orochimaru said to jiraya when he force orochimaru to come back to konoha "THERES LIMIT TO STUPIDITY".
Theres almost thin line between NEVER GIVE UP and STUPIDITY.






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Edited by dejavu, 19 May 2015 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:15 AM

 

Uh... i don't realy understand about marketing... can someone explain is this means successfull sales or average sales or bad sales?

 

Not very sucessful, average to bad 

if we consider a light novel as the same as a manga volume it was really underwhelming, considering Naruto's past popularity even more so 


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:26 AM

Remember that Naruto each manga volume used to sell at the very least at least a million on their first week in Japan(when 72 sold only 800,000 it's first week that was considered doing poorly). Novel 3 did 41,440 sold first week and novel 4 only did 38,436 first week. Which mean which each one they are declining from the sales of the previous one.  Since these novels are suppose to be the canon explanation of what happened after chapter 700 to a bit after the Last. These novel are doing very poor when you take that into account.



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:30 AM

 

Not very sucessful, average to bad 

if we consider a light novel as the same as a manga volume it was really underwhelming, considering Naruto's past popularity even more so 

So they make very little profit or worse they don't even get the money the spent to make and distribute this gaiden? :sweat:

They should be know and understand by now The Last movie, the novel, and this gaiden don't sell alot and the franchise keep drop. I'm realy excited how are they gonna deal with this....


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:07 PM

So they make very little profit or worse they don't even get the money the spent to make and distribute this gaiden? :sweat:

They should be know and understand by now The Last movie, the novel, and this gaiden don't sell alot and the franchise keep drop. I'm realy excited how are they gonna deal with this....

 

Well the gaiden goes weekly within WSJ, we will only know Gaiden's numbers afterwards when they release the volume


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:35 PM

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:38 PM

Can someone put Salad's face as the nurse here :chuckle: ? 

 

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 01:10 PM

 

I think this fits the SS marriage perfectly  :pinch:


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 01:42 PM

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 02:11 PM

Sasuke's not really a trophy now leaving Sakura a single parent in a broken-down house. She didn't win anything lol.


In hindsight, you're correct, but that doesn't change the fact that Sasuke was just a prize her. How their relationship turned out doesn't change that fact.

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