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[KnS]

Why are they trying to erase someone who was integral to the story, self-empowered and supportive of the hero, no matter what? It makes no sense. And if you love the story, then you would have to recognize her importance to the plot. 

 

It takes so much greater effort to wipe her from relevancy than it does just to give her a happy ending. So, why are they doing it? (I know, it's a bit of a rhetorical question there. For Hinata, obviously.)

 

It seems to me that the decisions that were made -- to pair SS and NH against the grain of the rest of the story -- left them with little choice.  In order to make NH happen, everything else had to be subject to corruption.

 

It's really not possible to give Sakura a happy ending.  In order to reposition Hinata as the most important person in Naruto's life and his love interest, Sakura has to be removed as Naruto's closest confidante and go-to person for his feelings and interest.

 

Likewise, Sakura can't be super confident and capable or succeed at a lot because she will outshine Hinata who is useless -- and remains so even in the movie that focuses solely on her.  Hinata is weak, pitiful, and incompetent.  Sakura cannot be better in any way or Hinata's image will suffer.

 

And then there's the fact that in order to give Naruto to Hinata, it meant that Sakura -- despite her growth and maturity and tangible closeness with Naruto in the story -- was stuck with Sasuke.  There was no love between Sakura and Sasuke in the original story, and no development of Sasuke as a person with really any feelings at all.  Sasuke and Gaara sort of switched places, and Sasuke ended up the character with love only for himself.

 

The truth is, all the characters are ruined.  It's not just Sakura.  Naruto is completely destroyed as well. And Sasuke?  He's clearly not important to the story anymore either, with the possible exception of assisting Naruto in some kind of fight.  He's got nothing to add to the domestic subplots, so fights and warrior activity are all he's good for -- and that's only if such a situation is contrived.  How is that going to happen a lot in an era of peace?

 

See, it wasn't a simple decision to go with NH and reward Hinata.  To make it happen in both the short and long term requires the deconstruction of everything that went before -- precisely because Hinata was never meant to be Naruto's mate or the most important character of the franchise.

[Khaleesi]

She sang some of the ending songs of some famous animes such as Fate/Zero or Sword Art Online, but I didn't know she would be that famous, lol.

I think her song is use for opening/ending of anime.
I forget what is the anime that use her song.
If I'm not mistaken it is fate stay night.

SAO, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Tomorrow seems to be the fanmeeting. She is here to sing at the Natsumatsuri this saturday. I'm going to the Natsumatsuri, btw.
The theme is Sake!!! I bought the ticket anyway so I must go. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

I remember TM Revolution came to NYC. I marked out, I'm not going to lie. Lol. Actually, I remember fangirls screaming. I remember she played the recent at the time Soul Eater opening. I was like "Oh that anime! I should watch it." Which I ended up doing. Lol.

[rocci]

Yeah, that's my problem. I just didn't get the whole "feint" aspect of Tobi with Zetsu. They made out to be strangers. It felt like it was right with only Pain/Konan knowing about it, but Zetsu knows way earlier than anyone else. So what the hell...

Well, it could or should be better.
I mean by making obito as tobi, he make naruto to fight his closest clone.
Tnj is bound to happen, since obito is practically uchiha naruto.
And it brought up NS, because of rin.

[trang95]

SAO, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Tomorrow seems to be the fanmeeting. She is here to sing at the Natsumatsuri this saturday. I'm going to the Natsumatsuri, btw.
The theme is Sake!!! I bought the ticket anyway so I must go. 

Sake as a theme? Like that Japanese alcoholic drink? LMFAO XD I hope you enjoy that fan meeting! She's a good singer though I have other favorites.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, it could or should be better.
I mean by making obito as tobi, he make naruto to fight his closest clone.
Tnj is bound to happen, since obito is practically uchiha naruto.
And it brought up NS, because of rin.

What a waste, eh.

 

For the record, the villain doesn't have to be that identical. Just be related. The cause of Kyuubi was good enough.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 February 2015 - 01:48 AM.

[RyohkiFan]

A japanese singer known as Eir Aoi has arrived to Peru and some of my friends are freaking out. 
Someone here knows her?

MEEEE!!! She did an opening for SAO and did some songs for Fate

[LuckyChi7]

The hate is real XD One Piece- but as many volumes as you want b/c Oda won't (hopefully) betray his fans.

 

Yup I'm slowly gonna ease my way into buying the volumes for One Piece.  I've only bought the first 5 Volumes and the only time I'll buy volumes from a long running series from Viz Media when they have the Buy 2 get 1 free sale. That's actually how I got most of my Naruto volumes.  Speaking of Naruto has there been any updates on Part 3? It's been a while since we've heard of it's announcement. 

[RyohkiFan]

 
I saw Volume 69 worst part about it is I held it in my hands and stared at it for like 5 minutes before I continued looking down the manga section. Fun fact but most of their One Piece Volumes like 12-24, 46-63,  were sold I saw someone carry two huge bags of them and I was like damn that's serious dedication. Moving along side that I over heard a couple of people by the starbucks section talking about how they were gonna buy all the Naruto Volumes, but they were gonna Tapping a Notecard  that says "kitten YOU KISHI" and then burn onto The Final Naruto Volume and burn it while roasting marshmallows for smores. 
 
I couldn't help but lmao  

OMG that's awesome!! Is it ok to show my JP friend this?

[Khaleesi]

Sake as a theme? Like that Japanese alcoholic drink? LMFAO XD I hope you enjoy that fan meeting! She's a good singer though I have other favorites.

I won't go to the fanmeeting, lmao.  I don't even know her and I just listened to two of her songs and I didn't like it, so meh. Also, you need to have a VIP ticket and I don't have one. Even so, I would sell it because I don't care about her.

Yes, that's the theme. It probably means there will be more about it? Cultural things and things like that. I just want to eat u_u

[LuckyChi7]

OMG that's awesome!! Is it ok to show my JP friend this?

 

 

Go for it. 

 

 

by the way how many of guys would be willing to buy the last volume only to burn it. I would actually get a great pleasure out of it. 

[rocci]

What a waste, eh.
 
For the record, the villain doesn't have to be that identical. Just be related. The cause of Kyuubi was good enough.

All naruto tnj victim must has something similiar with naruto.
Neji : I have a tatto in my forehead (naruto has it in his belly).
Garra : my iruka is dead and I'm a monster.
Nagato : my parent and friend is dead, and I'm an uzumaki.
Obito : my girl dead and I'm your uchiha version complete with hokage dream.

[KnS]

by the way how many of guys would be willing to buy the last volume only to burn it. I would actually get a great pleasure out of it. 

 

I wouldn't want them to have my money or think my purchase represented quality, support, or even interest.

 

They'll never get another dime from me.

 

ETA:  I'd rather take a $20, write the volume number on it, and then set it on fire.

[Khaleesi]

Also, incredible.
http://www.washingto...are-on-the-run/

[rocci]

 
 
Go for it. 
 
 
by the way how many of guys would be willing to buy the last volume only to burn it. I would actually get a great pleasure out of it. 

Don't do that, you only make kishi richer.
After all naruto is a garbage that not even worth to burn.

[KnS]

Also, incredible.
http://www.washingto...are-on-the-run/

 

In what way is this post relevant to this thread?

[Nate River]

I honestly feel like people in Naruto really have selective memory when it comes to Sasuke. Did they forget about the time when he murdered all of those Samurai?

I'd bet if pressed, they'd ask if the Samurai really died. But yes, yes they did.
 
 
 
 

Did they forget about the time when he raided the Kage Summit? Or the time when he tried to kill both Sakura, Naruto, and Kakashi at that summit?

Of course.

 
 

Oh, and let's not forget the time when he put Sakura in a genjutsu that showed him stabbing her,

It's because he cares to much. Like Peter Griffin loving too much.

 

declaring that he would kill every Kage from each and every village, also stating that he's basically gonna take over the whole ninja world, and saying that even though Naruto is his best friend, he still has to die. Or are they just gonna never bring that up again???

Of course, they won't. Worst case, he just half-asses an apology like he did with Karin and everyone says "it's cool."

What has Sasuke done to actually be deserving of the title hero?

Openly admit to helping save the world in furtherance of his own self-interest?

[Khaleesi]

 

In what way is this post relevant to this thread?

This is completely Off-topic, but 90%  of the comments also are. The only difference is that they are more related to japanese things, lol. If the admins are going to be strict about it, then do it with everything else that doesn't have the name of Naruto.

[tricksie]

Also, incredible.
http://www.washingto...are-on-the-run/

 

Watched the whole thing. As it was happening. Snowed in, that's my excuse.

 

edit: sorry, off-topic....

[EmperorZeo]

Maybe the SP logo was there to show that SP were the one behind this... (or maybe not ) 
A part of me thinks that Kishi did that on purpose (you know...not honoring Kushina's wishes ) 
Anyway...whatever happened, it's not an excuse for ruining everything

That's what I was thinking. The more I think about it, the more I think that SP and SJ pushed him in this direction. Like everyone's been saying. Its like he's purposely being slopy, saying stupid things and sabotaging his own story in order to kill it off as soon as possible.

Something like that. He's just been doing so much that doesn't make any sense. Personally I think he's up to something.

You know Kaguya's Rinegan on the last page of 700 that Chatte pointed out? Personally, I think Kishi might have a purpose for it. It think it's there to give him an out. Once everything dies down, the contract with SP is over, he can go back back to it years later and use it to make changes. Undo mistakes. I'm not even just talking about pairings, I'm talking the story in general.

Does anyone have any theories?