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#6661 Phantom_999

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:01 AM

I want Naruto to have a dark transformation and have Sakura hug him to return him to normal. They are LONG overdue for that kind of scene dry.gif and she already did it with Sasuke the th_cussing.gif so WHY NOT Naruto!? She needs to prove her feelings in some form! 111193.gif but a direct Confession is way better though biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Nov 13 2011, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Please tell me you guys are being sarcastic..

100% serious.















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QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want Naruto to have a dark transformation and have Sakura hug him to return him to normal.

I think the bridge thing is the best we're gonna get for that >_>

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:26 AM

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why would sakura saving naruto be character developement? confused.gif
her goal was to save naruto- and she 'tried' to with the confession- but that backfired into: I should trust Naruto to work this out with sasuke.

>.> character developement would be saving sasuke herself (not on the battle field but after), saving naruto is pleasing our shipping hearts ^^;
I'd rather she give naruto some cucial support in the final battle- be it tactical advice or important information- than for her to save him. That's the easiest way- but i'd have a bad feeling if she's gonna save him on the battle field- no matter how strong she is- she doesn't have the power to defeat someone like tobi or sasuke- and the last time a girl tried to save naruto on the battlefield ended up being pain's lecture fodder.

if for example- Naruto switches with a clone to recuperate- or trick tobi into thinking its the real one for the bijuu plan- while the kages/ konoha to deal with mandara/ tobi- then yeah- i can see sakura doing to quick work to save some off naruto's chakra and them having a NS moment- but i don't want sakura 'saving' naruto- that has a high chance of getting her or kakashi killed. (it always does when she tries to interfere with the two boys fights)


ANYWAYS- thats old news- but i do want to see naruto and kyuubi work together more- that'd be tieing off the old hates that started these wars.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Nov 15 2011, 03:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@babyVee
why would sakura saving naruto be character developement? confused.gif
her goal was to save naruto- and she 'tried' to with the confession- but that backfired into: I should trust Naruto to work this out with sasuke.

>.> character developement would be saving sasuke herself (not on the battle field but after), saving naruto is pleasing our shipping hearts ^^;
I'd rather she give naruto some cucial support in the final battle- be it tactical advice or important information- than for her to save him. That's the easiest way- but i'd have a bad feeling if she's gonna save him on the battle field- no matter how strong she is- she doesn't have the power to defeat someone like tobi or sasuke- and the last time a girl tried to save naruto on the battlefield ended up being pain's lecture fodder.

if for example- Naruto switches with a clone to recuperate- or trick tobi into thinking its the real one for the bijuu plan- while the kages/ konoha to deal with mandara/ tobi- then yeah- i can see sakura doing to quick work to save some off naruto's chakra and them having a NS moment- but i don't want sakura 'saving' naruto- that has a high chance of getting her or kakashi killed. (it always does when she tries to interfere with the two boys fights)


ANYWAYS- thats old news- but i do want to see naruto and kyuubi work together more- that'd be tieing off the old hates that started these wars.


I brought that volume today from stores, she actually said: "All I can do is trust in them." wink.gif Just clearing that up in case anyone saw it as a possible SS moment with the sasuke part in it.
I found something else interesting too. In the manga I brought from the book store, she doesn't use the word Sasuke-kun. In manga translations, she does. I dunno.. Freaked me out a bit. unsure.gif Sometimes it makes me wonder if the un-biased sites could really be biased.

QUOTE (Konan-chan @ Nov 15 2011, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haters gonna hate, that's why they're called haters. mellow.gif
We have mountains of evidence proving the haters wrong but they're inability to listen is what irks me.

I've been thinking.... Here's a little secret of mine.. I never knew that there was such thing as the manga for Naruto. I never knew that there were pairings too. All I did was watch the anime and go by that. Hell, I didn't know the defenition of "Filler" *Shot multiple times* I know.... Stupid right? shamefulcry0js.gif
And just to think..... that there are probably a whole lot of people like how I used to be....... facepalm.png argh1.png


Same. I never knew what was filler or what not, I just watched the anime and went by what it showed for the plot. So many people are still probably like that, and they're all against Sakura for said reasons or against NS for said reasons. Completely agree. ):

Anyway. I'm a bit concerned today. I absolutely have no fear of NH "winning," but it's SS that's got me concerned/worried a bit. I don't exactly know why considering all we've discussed here in this thread. sweat.gif Can someone uh, cheer me up?

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 05:56 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 15 2011, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found something else interesting too. In the manga I brought from the book store, she doesn't use the word Sasuke-kun. In manga translations, she does. I dunno.. Freaked me out a bit. unsure.gif Sometimes it makes me wonder if the un-biased sites could really be biased.

If you're talking about the official translations by Viz Media versus online manga translations [i.e. mangareader, etc.], then I don't think it's actually being biased. Viz Media doesn't generally use Japanese words in their translations. Some exceptions are attacks or techniques, e.g. Rasengan, Chidori, etc. because if they did then Kakashi/Sasuke would be saying "One Thousand Birds" instead of Chidori, and that sounds pretty weird for an attack tongue.gif another exception could probably be the word "jutsu" itself, since the English dub of the anime uses that word instead of "technique" to give the show more of a Japanese feel to it, but that's the anime, so I have no idea about the official translations of the manga since I've never read one.

With online translations, however, they do use Japanese words, suffixes, etc. to go with its original Japanese feel. So they would use suffixes with characters. Not all, though, since Naruto calls Tsunade "Granny Tsunade" or something along the lines, whereas in the original Japanese he refers to her as "Tsunade-baachan". This can also apply with techniques as well [e.g. Big Ball Rasengan = Oodama Rasengan, etc. but again, not always].

But anyways, what should matter is if Sakura actually adds the "-kun" suffix to Sasuke's name in the raw, which she probably does, and in the raw it should look something like this: サスケくん.

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Anyway. I'm a bit concerned today. I absolutely have no fear of NH "winning," but it's SS that's got me concerned/worried a bit. I don't exactly know why considering all we've discussed here in this thread. sweat.gif Can someone uh, cheer me up?

If SS happens, I'm gonna play "Love the Way You Lie" by Eminem in the background, because relationships totally have the two in the couple wanting to kill each other, yep.

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There's too much NS development for Kishi-sensei to turn back now. He could have stopped ages ago, but he kept going, giving us those little hints. I think we can trust him to not troll us, because that would make him a bad writer if he did so. Being the writer himself, he should know that better than any of us.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:56 AM

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If you\'re talking about the official translations by Viz Media versus online manga translations [i.e. mangareader, etc.], then I don\'t think it\'s actually being biased. Viz Media doesn\'t generally use Japanese words in their translations. Some exceptions are attacks or techniques, e.g. Rasengan, Chidori, etc. because if they did then Kakashi/Sasuke would be saying \"One Thousand Birds\" instead of Chidori, and that sounds pretty weird for an attack tongue.gif another exception could probably be the word \"jutsu\" itself, since the English dub of the anime uses that word instead of \"technique\" to give the show more of a Japanese feel to it, but that\'s the anime, so I have no idea about the official translations of the manga since I\'ve never read one.

With online translations, however, they do use Japanese words, suffixes, etc. to go with its original Japanese feel. So they would use suffixes with characters. Not all, though, since Naruto calls Tsunade \"Granny Tsunade\" or something along the lines, whereas in the original Japanese he refers to her as \"Tsunade-baachan\". This can also apply with techniques as well [e.g. Big Ball Rasengan = Oodama Rasengan, etc. but again, not always].

But anyways, what should matter is if Sakura actually adds the \"-kun\" suffix to Sasuke\'s name in the raw, which she probably does, and in the raw it should look something like this: サスケくん.


If SS happens, I\'m gonna play \"Love the Way You Lie\" by Eminem in the background, because relationships totally have the two in the couple wanting to kill each other, yep.

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There\'s too much NS development for Kishi-sensei to turn back now. He could have stopped ages ago, but he kept going, giving us those little hints. I think we can trust him to not troll us, because that would make him a bad writer if he did so. Being the writer himself, he should know that better than any of us.


Thanks, that made me feel better happy.gif

And oh, I didn\'t know that about the manga translations, thanks for putting that out. I thought I had found something amazing XD But yeah, in this book, it\'s kind of translated the way you described. Sakura said \"Master Kakashi\" instead of Kakashi sensei, and the english is a bit weird compared to the online ones that seem to \"clean it up\" a bit.

I noticed something though, Rin looks a lot like Sakura, doesn\'t she? Obito has spikey hair like Naruto, even kind of looks like him in the pic below, and Kakashi.. well, he reminds me of Sasuke in a way. Hmm. I don\'t know much about them, maybe someone who does can answer me, but is there some foreshadowing there?

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 15 2011, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, that made me feel better happy.gif

And oh, I didn't know that about the manga translations, thanks for putting that out. I thought I had found something amazing XD But yeah, in this book, it's kind of translated the way you described. Sakura said "Master Kakashi" instead of Kakashi sensei, and the english is a bit weird compared to the online ones that seem to "clean it up" a bit.

You're welcome smile.gif

Yeah, the English in the official translations can be pretty weird. I like reading the online scanlations more since they make a lot more sense. Like during the [almost] conclusion of Sakura's confession in 469, she says "You're here where I can touch you like this..." in the scanlation, and then I went to Manifest this year in August and read the official translation, which said something like "You're here where I can close in on you..." and I was just like ._____. [paraphrasing both lines by the way]

See? OFFICIALS MAKE NO SENSE. argh1.png

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I noticed something though, Rin looks a lot like Sakura, doesn't she? Obito has spikey hair like Naruto, even kind of looks like him in the pic below, and Kakashi.. well, he reminds me of Sasuke in a way. Hmm. I don't know much about them, maybe someone who does can answer me, but is there some foreshadowing there?

Hmm, I guess Sakura sort of does look like Rin, what with both of them having short hair. Also, they play the same role in their respective teams: being the female medic-nin. Obito, albeit a little more sensible, has a personality that's a bit similar to Naruto, with both of them being carefree shinobi. Kakashi and Sasuke are pretty similar too, in terms of personality. [Kakashi is still the same in the present, although being a little less strict and more carefree like his teammate, after those faithful words wink.gif]

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:43 AM

QUOTE (Kim @ Nov 15 2011, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, there is something there, I noticed it a long time ago... Although I think they are more like Team Kakashi in part I. Sakura and Rin are both medic-nins, but I think Sakura is a lot more mature and can stand up for herself better than Rin. She's a lot stronger.
Naruto was a bit like Obito, back when he was still 'all bark, no bite', when he was still learning. But the difference is that Naruto was always ready to fight and was more headstrong.
As for Sasuke, I always said he's very much young Kakashi, maybe even the older one. Tragic past, crazy inherited skills, tendency for being loners and thinking they are better than everyone else.
But because the situation changed in part II, I don't think Team 7 will have the same fate.


Well it's all about achieving what the last generation couldn't, ain't it? tongue.gif Sakura's stronger than Rin + Narutos more mature than Obito. If you ask me, that gives NS a even stronger chance of happening, giving Rin and Obito a chance to "get together" with the next generation, and having Kakashi witness it firsthand. (Ah, or something like that. I may not be explaining myself right. sweat.gif)


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Yeah, the English in the official translations can be pretty weird. I like reading the online scanlations more since they make a lot more sense. Like during the [almost] conclusion of Sakura's confession in 469, she says "You're here where I can touch you like this..." in the scanlation, and then I went to Manifest this year in August and read the official translation, which said something like "You're here where I can close in on you..." and I was just like ._____. [paraphrasing both lines by the way]

See? OFFICIALS MAKE NO SENSE.


"You're here where I can close in on you?" what is she an animal? LOL.

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Hmm, I guess Sakura sort of does look like Rin, what with both of them having short hair. Also, they play the same role in their respective teams: being the female medic-nin. Obito, albeit a little more sensible, has a personality that's a bit similar to Naruto, with both of them being carefree shinobi. Kakashi and Sasuke are pretty similar too, in terms of personality. [Kakashi is still the same in the present, although being a little less strict and more carefree like his teammate, after those faithful words

And the pinkish skirt happy.gif

With Obito.. The goggles too? Part 1 Naruto wore goggles on his head because he didn't have a headband. It could be a coincidence.
Or maybe even foreshadowing with team 7 as it is now, (Without Sai, post sasuke leaving, pre meeting sai - the original after sasuke left.) Kakashi/Sakura/Naruto. Rin/Kakashi/Obito.

So much to suspect. zomg.gif

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 15 2011, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or maybe even foreshadowing with team 7 as it is now, (Without Sai, post sasuke leaving, pre meeting sai - the original after sasuke left.) Kakashi/Sakura/Naruto. Rin/Kakashi/Obito.

So much to suspect. zomg.gif

I don't know... I don't really see the foreshadowing for some messed up reason. I guess it's because the Kakashi from Team Minato is a hella lot different to the Kakashi we know as of present. I suppose you could be right though. But yeah, I definitely see some physical and a bit of personality resemblance between Rin/Sakura and Obito/Naruto.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Nov 15 2011, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm, I believe it was Kakashi who told Rin that Obito loved her(after he died). It was hinted that Rin had a crush on Kakashi, but I don't remember her saying anything.


It wasn't hinted. It was a fact that even Obito knew. He mentioned it to Kakashi I think. Too lazy to look at the chapter again.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 02:20 PM

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I don't think Kishimoto wants her feelings to go anywhere because he may just like the way she feels for Sasuke. I don't know, this could be crazy on my part, but why keep these feelings if he doesn't plan on doing anything with them?

Ever since Part 1 Naruto has always kind of accepted that Sakura was more interested in Sasuke. Sure, it hurt him. But in the end, Sakura was still in love with Sasuke. Sasuke was still the person she chose to chase after. Sasuke was still the person Sakura wanted to be with. Not Naruto. It is not fair to Sakura that NaruSaku wants her to choose Naruto to make him feel better, and NS isn't the least bit concerned about who Sakura wants.

I think Sakura would be unhappy with Naruto because Naruto isn't who she really wants. It has always been Sasuke who has been able to make her happy. Sure, Naruto excels when it comes to cheering her up, but I think it is Sasuke who Sakura is truly happy around. Why is she happy around him? Because she likes him. She always has.

Why force her to give up on her love just so Naruto can get his prize? A prize I don't think he really needs. Sure, he wants it, but Naruto doesn't need it. He isn't going to change into Sasuke just to steal a kiss from her anymore. If she wants to kiss Sasuke, Naruto's all for it. He isn't going to force her to love him. And I think it'd be wrong if he tried to force her to love him. Naruto isn't like that.

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Just how NS says that we should think about how Naruto feels and "who he wants", then obviously it should be said for Sakura too, no?

Naruto has shown more signs of acceptance and the willingness to move on than Sakura has, which is why I believe out of everyone Naruto has the biggest chance to. especially after 469 His feelings were simply not as developed or showcased compared to Sakura's love for Sasuke and Hinata's love for Naruto.

Confirmed in CURRENT part 2:
Hinata ----> Naruto
Sakura ----> Sasuke

but...
Naruto -> Sakura ?

^Not really. A flashback of Sai's which was before 469, before they even met Sasuke again. And we all know how that turned out.

I'd say it both has and hasn't been confirmed whether Naruto still has feelings for Sakura. Definitely the weakest evidence of the big three.


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I agree with everything you said.

NS is such a pathetic pairing and makes both characters involved OOC.



Sorry to bring this up, but it really bothers me all the things people will say for the sake of the pairing they like
how is the feelings of a supporting main heroine and a sencondary character more importanf than the feelings of the main character. Why Naruto the main character most be hurt and move on?

Hinata----> does not pursue Naruto love the way Sakura----> pursue Sasuke or Naruto----> to Sakura .
Naruto has blow away Hinata confession for 122 chapter plus they don't spend time together
he don't know Hinata the way he know team 7, Iruka, Jiraiya or Konohamaru she is not a speacial frien no matter what others think they have the Manga to see for themselves.


Sasuke try to Kill Sakura and Kishi has shown us that Sakura really feels hurt when she think about him, Sasuke really hurt Sakura physically and emotionally.


Sakura is Happy around Naruto, natural around Naruto, she feels safe, he give her hope, she trusts him completely, she smiles a lot around him and they still have the nerve to say that she will not be Happy and she will be OOC can someone plz expline me this.

How the feelings of the girls are more important that Naruto's feelings.

Edited by donjoseph19, 15 November 2011 - 02:50 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:40 PM

Those quotes you posted donjoseph19 they sound biased to me. Let's get this straight that Sakura was a 12 yeard old shallow girl that had zero clue what love is she immediately got a crush on the obvious popular boy in the village, of course she wasn't going to like someone loud and obnoxious like Naruto (although inner Sakura disagrees with that).

Deep inside she knew Sasuke was never going to like her and she also knew that even if she tells him that she loves him he was still going to leave. It was clear that Sasuke's goal was revenge since he introuduced himself at the first team 7 meeting. If Sakura really love and wanted to be with him (accodring to true love conquers all) she would have left the village to search for him, not caring if she might end up dead or ending up as one of Orochimaru's lab rats. Sasuke could care less what happens to her as long as she doesn't get in his way. Back when she told him that she will even go with him and help him in his revenge, she didn't meant it because her confession was in desperation unlike when she confessed to Naruto at 469. She matured, grew up and got over her crush. The only thing that's keeping her back is the teammate bond with him, Sasuke is an important person to her, he was her teammate, her first crush. You can't forget someone like that so easily.
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 03:57 PM

LOL, I've got a little bit of downtime at work, and I saw donjoseph's post, so I thought I might as well stop lurking and throw my thoughts in. tongue.gif

I'm too lazy to reply to any particular part, but it seems like the person (people?) is making a point that N/S doesn't have very strong ground to stand on, since Kishi doesn't seem to be as expositional about Naruto's feelings for Sakura as he is/was with Sakura's/Hinata's feelings for Sasuke/Naruto. I guess for a reader who needs something stated blatantly stated to understand it (including me at times sweatdrop.gif), I can see why someone might have a tough time understanding Naru/Saku. I think Kishi puts a lot more emphasis on their bond than any other of the het pairings, but when it comes to actual romantic feelings, Naruto's feelings for Sakura might not be quite as apparent to some readers.
Anyways, I'd definitely agree with the poster(s) that Naruto's feelings for Sakura are shown in a different light than Sakura's and Hinata's feelings for Sasuke and Naruto, but I don't think it's really a negative thing. Hinata herself said that her feelings are 'selfish', and I believe Kishi said something similar about Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. With Naruto however, we've seen at least three times that his feelings for Sakura are completely selfless. I guess this COULD possibly be Kishi showing Naruto moving on from Sakura. But considering how we've been reminded of Naruto's selfless feelings multiple times at different points in the story, I don't really understand how that could be the case.

Also, the person pointed out how Sai's flashback of Naruto's feelings took place before the Iron Country Arc, as if that makes it invalid. This is one of the points that I've really grown tired of arguing, since it's such a poor argument to bring up. Sure, it's a flashback, but Kishi obviously introduced it into the plot for a reason. If he made a point of showing the reader that Naruto's feelings have changed since that flashback, it'd be another story, but seeing as how Naruto's feelings were never reintroduced, we can only assume that nothing has changed since that flashback.

As for the OOC part, that doesn't really make sense to me either. To me, Naruto giving up on Sakura would be the most OOC move of all, given how stubborn he tends to be. With Sakura, I admit she's also a fairly stubborn character, but we've seen multiple cases in which Sakura's feelings for Naruto were shown to be beyond platonic, and I also think there've been multiple times in which her feelings for Sasuke were portrayed in a negative light. Basically, I take it that Sakura's feelings are in a veritable miasma of uncertainly (I'm copyrighting that phrase tongue.gif), so I don't see how it would be OOC for her to end up with Naruto. Especially with certain...developments with Sasu/Saku in the Iron Country Arc.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 04:57 PM

Boy, a lot of action here in the last 12 hours, ehhh? Well, there's too much here for me get a clear and accurate responses to these thoughts, but I would like to make this quote.

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I noticed something though, Rin looks a lot like Sakura, doesn\'t she? Obito has spikey hair like Naruto, even kind of looks like him in the pic below, and Kakashi.. well, he reminds me of Sasuke in a way. Hmm. I don\'t know much about them, maybe someone who does can answer me, but is there some foreshadowing there?


Yes, they all looked and acted similar, but this case is going to be different, because Naruto is not going to die (hopefully not), and he's going to get the girl that he cares for. But then again, Kakashi is so awesome these days and probably, during the days when he was being trained by Minato, whilst Sasuke is not awesome (past, present, and probably future), but that's how it is. Btw, whatever happened to Rin? Too lazy, to look back.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 05:30 PM

@boom, you should copyright it. veritable miasmas, ftw!

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Nov 15 2011, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know... I don't really see the foreshadowing for some messed up reason. I guess it's because the Kakashi from Team Minato is a hella lot different to the Kakashi we know as of present. I suppose you could be right though. But yeah, I definitely see some physical and a bit of personality resemblance between Rin/Sakura and Obito/Naruto.



QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Nov 15 2011, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL, I've got a little bit of downtime at work, and I saw donjoseph's post, so I thought I might as well stop lurking and throw my thoughts in. tongue.gif

I'm too lazy to reply to any particular part, but it seems like the person (people?) is making a point that N/S doesn't have very strong ground to stand on, since Kishi doesn't seem to be as expositional about Naruto's feelings for Sakura as he is/was with Sakura's/Hinata's feelings for Sasuke/Naruto. I guess for a reader who needs something stated blatantly stated to understand it (including me at times sweatdrop.gif), I can see why someone might have a tough time understanding Naru/Saku. I think Kishi puts a lot more emphasis on their bond than any other of the het pairings, but when it comes to actual romantic feelings, Naruto's feelings for Sakura might not be quite as apparent to some readers.
Anyways, I'd definitely agree with the poster(s) that Naruto's feelings for Sakura are shown in a different light than Sakura's and Hinata's feelings for Sasuke and Naruto, but I don't think it's really a negative thing. Hinata herself said that her feelings are 'selfish', and I believe Kishi said something similar about Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. With Naruto however, we've seen at least three times that his feelings for Sakura are completely selfless. I guess this COULD possibly be Kishi showing Naruto moving on from Sakura. But considering how we've been reminded of Naruto's selfless feelings multiple times at different points in the story, I don't really understand how that could be the case.

Also, the person pointed out how Sai's flashback of Naruto's feelings took place before the Iron Country Arc, as if that makes it invalid. This is one of the points that I've really grown tired of arguing, since it's such a poor argument to bring up. Sure, it's a flashback, but Kishi obviously introduced it into the plot for a reason. If he made a point of showing the reader that Naruto's feelings have changed since that flashback, it'd be another story, but seeing as how Naruto's feelings were never reintroduced, we can only assume that nothing has changed since that flashback.

As for the OOC part, that doesn't really make sense to me either. To me, Naruto giving up on Sakura would be the most OOC move of all, given how stubborn he tends to be. With Sakura, I admit she's also a fairly stubborn character, but we've seen multiple cases in which Sakura's feelings for Naruto were shown to be beyond platonic, and I also think there've been multiple times in which her feelings for Sasuke were portrayed in a negative light. Basically, I take it that Sakura's feelings are in a veritable miasma of uncertainly (I'm copyrighting that phrase tongue.gif), so I don't see how it would be OOC for her to end up with Naruto. Especially with certain...developments with Sasu/Saku in the Iron Country Arc.


I have never agreed with a post more than I agree with this! Sakuras feelings for Sasuke are always portrayed in a negative light. They're never in a "I'm so happy I'm in love with you." type of way. Shes down when she feels about Sasuke, she feels depressed, the looks on her face after the love fodder ninja talked to her clearly show that. In fact, I think that was a way of Kishi saying she still has lingering feelings for Sasuke + feels negative about them. Now, a lot of people may ask "Why didn't she think of Naruto?" That's the exact key, am I right? Why would she think of Naruto and ruin Kishi's sub romantic plot? She has lingering feelings for a evil man, a murderer, a missing nin, when someone asks said girl, "He must be a great guy" she's going to think of the lingering feelings in her heart, and of all the evil hes done. If you look at Naruto, he's the complete opposite. It wouldn't be the right time to think of Naruto with the subplot, inconviencing feelings with/for Sasuke, and the pain hes causing BOTH naruto and sakura.

If you ask me, Sakura would of given up on Sasuke a long time ago if it weren't for Naruto's "Dattebayo Sakura chan! I'll save Sasuke."


As for Rin/Obito/Kakashi, I'm getting a familiar theory here. Rin had a crush on Kakashi - (Lets say/.. Sasuke.) but loved Obito? (Lets say.. current Sakura.) wink.gif
 
 
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:04 PM

she did. mellow.gif same love triangle Obito to Rin To Kakashi

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Nov 15 2011, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she did. mellow.gif same love triangle Obito to Rin To Kakashi

Rin loved Kakashi?

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:27 PM

yes. It just wasn't as obvious cause she wasn't fan girling Kakashi like Sakura did in part I

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Nov 15 2011, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes. It just wasn't as obvious cause she wasn't fan girling Kakashi like Sakura did part I

Where is the actual canon proof tho?

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