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[Phantom_999]

Machoist aren't you?

ya know i think in sakura's mind she thinks she likes sasuke. but her actions say she likes naruto. thats why whenever theres a situation she always is on naruto's side.

just like when sasuke and naruto were charging at each other sakura only yelled naruto's name.


the databooks (dont know if they count!!) say she has these feelings for naruto she doesnt understand yet.

I'll get back too you on that the character data book is coming out in North America soon so I'll let you know then ( though it's in January)

Edited by Phantom_999, 13 November 2011 - 10:07 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Machoist aren't you?



I'll get back too you on that the character data book is coming out in North America soon so I'll let you know then ( though it's in January)

eh? is a new one coming out soon :o?

[Fenris]

ya know i think in sakura's mind she thinks she likes sasuke. but her actions say she likes naruto. thats why whenever theres a situation she always is on naruto's side.

just like when sasuke and naruto were charging at each other sakura only yelled naruto's name.


the databooks (dont know if they count!!) say she has these feelings for naruto she doesnt understand yet.

Yeah, the databooks, from an un-biased translator translated it to: some say they count, but others say they dont, I guess it's just a matter of what you believe. Imo, they count.

"Since when she was a child Sakura had always felt admiration and a feeling similar to love for Sasuke. Naruto was just an "annoying" boy who stood in the middle between Sakura and Sasuke and disturbed their relationship. But after completing many missions together with him, she looked back at the past and finally realized: when she was in trouble, when she was ready to give up on her life, the one who was always there, protecting her and encouraging her, was in fact that "annoying" boy, Naruto. What are her current feelings for Naruto...? Sakura still hasn't found an answer."

Tora Chan: Welllllll..... XD;; I don't know, I kind of appreciate the pairing so I might be biased, but I think this is pretty obvious...
(and YES, I assure you the translation is correct and unbiased ).

I've seen another translation on Naruto Fan Forum and its the same exact thing.

SS and NH are done with. I don't even think we have anything to fear from now on considering all the evidence we have. We just gotta play the waiting game.

I said If Sakura.. were to hit me..

I can understand Naruto in that way haha, I'd act like a fool to have Sakura hit me too..

Edited by iamfenris, 13 November 2011 - 10:24 PM.

[Anguyen92]

But after completing many missions together with him, she looked back at the past and finally realized: when she was in trouble, when she was ready to give up on her life, the one who was always there, protecting her and encouraging her, was in fact that "annoying" boy, Naruto. What are her current feelings for Naruto...? Sakura still hasn't found an answer."

That's a pretty nice statement that kinda sums up Sakura's romantic problems in a nutshell. Her respect for Naruto over the years has gone up while her respect over Sasuke has down in that same time interval, so with that in mind, how in the world does she choose Sasuke after all of this? Even if Sasuke is good again in the end, its kinda hard to let certain things go like Sasuke betraying the village and the very few people that actually wants to help him.

Sakura's answer and judgement will be the right one in the end, if not, then her character development is sunk, which is sad, because, we could all see and appreciate on how much she has grown and improved throughout the whole part two.

Edited by Anguyen92, 13 November 2011 - 10:31 PM.

[Don-kun]

I think we all think, Sakura just hits Naruto because she is concerned of his actions that may seem too reckless and too pervy. With that in mind, she punches the dude because she cares. Has Hinata done anything other than the cream part, where she seems to care about the guy in a selfless manner?

And we go back to the simplest thing, what are the benefits of Naruto being with Hinata in his perspective as oppose to being with Sakura? And those NS bashers can't say because Hinata cares for him, because Sakura does care for him, a lot more than Hinata, if I may say.

The big bias here is that they claim Hinata care for Naruto more than Sakura.
I've never seen Hinata cry for Naruto or worry for him the way Sakura does
Hinata only see him as a proud person that she admire thats all.

Where this LOVE come from I really don't Know you need to coexist with a person
in the good and hart times know the person in a personal level, before you can even say that you love them.
I think that's the way you really fall in love with someone.

Edited by donjoseph19, 13 November 2011 - 10:34 PM.

[Phantom_999]

eh? is a new one coming out soon :o?

No that data book saying Sakura has feelings for Naruto but doesn't know what they are yet and has that relationship chart with a love arrow pointing from Naruto to Sakura.... At least I think that's the one. Anyways it comes out in January

The big bias here is that they claim Hinata care for Naruto more than Sakura.
I've never seen Hinata cry for Naruto or worry for him the way Sakura does
Hinata only see him as a proud person that she admire thats all.

Where this LOVE come from I really don't Know you need to coexist with a person
in the good and hart times know the person in a personal level, before you can even say that you love them.
I think that's the way you really fall in love with someone.

True words true words. Very insightful.

[FoolishYoungling]

Who is Tora Chan and what does it matter that she said NS was pretty much canon?

[FoolishYoungling]

Wasn't Tora the cat?

Anyways new topic! I don't know if you guys have debated about this before but, would the kid of NH be as great as NHers are making him/her out to be?

I just got done arguing this so yeah. According to NH, Naruto and Hinata's kid would have the byakugan, gentle fist, sage mode, rasengan, multi-shadow clone jutsu, Kyuubi, and "a whole lot of powerful jutsu!"

I can counter some of these things easily. Gonna copy/paste a bit.

1) Kyuubi isn't inheritable. A kid of Naruto will just be a kid of Naruto. Not a Kyuubi-powered kid of Naruto.

2) There is no guarantee that Naruto's kid will inherit Naruto's chakra reserves. It's entirely possible that he/she would get Hinata's reserves and thus can't make 1000 jutsu like dear old dad.

3) Going off of two this means NH's kid probably won't master Sage Mode like Naruto. If she/he does, it could take a LOOOOOOONG time.

4) Who would the kid learn 'a whole lot of powerful jutsu from'? Teachers? All the powerful teachers do a pretty crappy job at teaching kids new techniques. Jiraiya and Kakashi taught Naruto and Sasuke ONE jutsu and that was it. The library? I don't see any of the characters now going to the library to learn powerful jutsu, so I don't imagine that will occur to NH's kid. The Hyuuga clan? Clans in general are pretty strict about the jutsu clan members learn appearntly. I can imagine that's why we haven't see Shikamaru use wind jutsu yet.

Their parents? ...LOL!

5) Isn't the byakugan a recessive trait?


6) I will give Nh's kid gentle fist and rasengan at least.

7) Who says their kid will want to even BE a ninja?

Also I'd like to do a little plug in for SasuHina(and a little NejiHina). Copy/paste!

If we're looking at who Hinata should be with based on her future children, her ideal choice would be Sasuke. A byakugan in one eye and sharingan in the other, the genjutsu power of the Uchiha clan combined with the taijutsu power of the Hyuuga clan, and who knows? Maybe combing Uchiha genes with Hyuuga genes could unlock an awesome potential in the Hyuuga.

So Hinata and Sasuke's kid > Naruto and Hinata's kid. NOT saying Sasuke > Naruto. I hate Sasuke sometimes and Naruto is my favorite character. But in argument for future badass children, Hinata should be with Sasuke.

After that Neji would be her next best choice. Then any clan heir.


Feel free to argue why kid of Naruto and Sakura would be badass too. In addition to what Naruto could possibly offer, Sakura can give their kid an intelligent brain and excellent chakra control.

I swear, one day i decide SasuHina is the best crack pairing, and everyone here likes it now... then again I give myself too much credit.. Anyway yes,yes, and yes! SasuHina is destiny.. DESTINY I TELL YOU!

Edited by Sakura Lover, 13 November 2011 - 11:36 PM.

[Super Boom]

It's hard to say what any potential kids would look like, since I don't think Kishi's really explained whether bloodline limits are dominant, recessive, or if they vary from clan to clan. I've always assumed they were dominant, since it seems more common in stories like this (Parent with powers+Parent without powers = Kid with powers), but I guess it's just speculation. The only thing I recall him saying on it was that, were an Uchiha and a Hyuuga to get together, their child would have one Sharingan and one Byakugan. And I assume he was joking about that, since that makes absolutely no sense.

Anyways, I imagine a child of Naruto and Sakura wouldn't really have any inheritant powers (except for stamina, which was was only revealed to be a bloodline trait around 60 or so chapters ago), but I think a child with a mix of Naruto and Sakura's personalities and traits would really interesting to see. Ha ha, imagine a little Sakura, with the same temperament as her mother, only with Naruto's insane chakra reserves. Or a little Naruto, with a combination of Sakura's intellect and Naruto's troublesome nature. His pranks would be epic.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 13 November 2011 - 11:47 PM.

[Fenris]

Wasn't Tora the cat?

Anyways new topic! I don't know if you guys have debated about this before but, would the kid of NH be as great as NHers are making him/her out to be?

I just got done arguing this so yeah. According to NH, Naruto and Hinata's kid would have the byakugan, gentle fist, sage mode, rasengan, multi-shadow clone jutsu, Kyuubi, and "a whole lot of powerful jutsu!"

I can counter some of these things easily. Gonna copy/paste a bit.

1) Kyuubi isn't inheritable. A kid of Naruto will just be a kid of Naruto. Not a Kyuubi-powered kid of Naruto.

2) There is no guarantee that Naruto's kid will inherit Naruto's chakra reserves. It's entirely possible that he/she would get Hinata's reserves and thus can't make 1000 jutsu like dear old dad.

3) Going off of two this means NH's kid probably won't master Sage Mode like Naruto. If she/he does, it could take a LOOOOOOONG time.

4) Who would the kid learn 'a whole lot of powerful jutsu from'? Teachers? All the powerful teachers do a pretty crappy job at teaching kids new techniques. Jiraiya and Kakashi taught Naruto and Sasuke ONE jutsu and that was it. The library? I don't see any of the characters now going to the library to learn powerful jutsu, so I don't imagine that will occur to NH's kid. The Hyuuga clan? Clans in general are pretty strict about the jutsu clan members learn appearntly. I can imagine that's why we haven't see Shikamaru use wind jutsu yet.

Their parents? ...LOL!

5) Isn't the byakugan a recessive trait?


6) I will give Nh's kid gentle fist and rasengan at least.

7) Who says their kid will want to even BE a ninja?

Also I'd like to do a little plug in for SasuHina(and a little NejiHina). Copy/paste!

If we're looking at who Hinata should be with based on her future children, her ideal choice would be Sasuke. A byakugan in one eye and sharingan in the other, the genjutsu power of the Uchiha clan combined with the taijutsu power of the Hyuuga clan, and who knows? Maybe combing Uchiha genes with Hyuuga genes could unlock an awesome potential in the Hyuuga.

So Hinata and Sasuke's kid > Naruto and Hinata's kid. NOT saying Sasuke > Naruto. I hate Sasuke sometimes and Naruto is my favorite character. But in argument for future badass children, Hinata should be with Sasuke.

After that Neji would be her next best choice. Then any clan heir.


Feel free to argue why kid of Naruto and Sakura would be badass too. In addition to what Naruto could possibly offer, Sakura can give their kid an intelligent brain and excellent chakra control.

I can NOT picture NH's kids.
NS's kids, I can picture.


I always pictured Hinata to go with Neji, for some reason. Their clan is pretty... well, ... We seen the chapters. Inbreeding seems the way of keeping their clan "pure." with the Byukugan (sp?) and stuff.
I heard that a few times somewhere, too. Well at least with more detailed explanation than I mentioned previously.

Naruto and Sakuras kids, would probably have Sakura's tsundere personality mixed with Naruto's fun-loving ramen addicting personality. Rasengan + insane strength? Damn, total Konoha wipe out.

Edited by iamfenris, 14 November 2011 - 12:04 AM.

[merryGOflava]

i cant imagine naruto having a kid with byakugan......that would be weird.......i cant imagine naruto's kid having black hair either.

[FoolishYoungling]

So, I went to see why alot of NH fans hate Sakura so much, and I was right.. Cause she hit him and because she is flat... I swear, the only way NH can happen is if Kishi has a Hentai ending planned...

Naruto: Sakura I hate your boobs, Hinata come here..
Hinata: OH BOY!!!

Why do Naruto fans want this?

Edited by Sakura Lover, 14 November 2011 - 12:16 AM.

[Fenris]

So, I went to see why alot of NH fans hate Sakura so much, and I was right.. Cause she hit him and because she is flat... I swear, the only way NH can happen is if Kishi has a Hentai ending planned...

Naruto: Sakura I hate your boobs, Hinata come here..
Hinata: OH BOY!!!

Why do Naruto fans want this?

Seriously? Seriously? Seriously.
Why hate a character because of their breast size, that's just... stupid.
Anyway, I guess they don't want to face Sakura is a Tsundere.
I feel like stapling this on every NS panel/episode where they show Sakura hitting her Naruto.

Long. --Click here to view--

The Japanese term tsundere refers to a character who "runs hot and cold", alternating between two distinct moods: tsuntsun (aloof or irritable) and deredere (lovestruck).
The tsuntsun can range from the "silent treatment" to "lovestruck kindergartener who pushes you into the sandbox." The reasons behind a Tsundere's behavior vary widely. Some are reasonable justifications. Others simply flow from the conflict between their feelings about the object of their affections and their reactions to having them.
The Tsundere stock characterization is very popular with writers of Romantic Comedy because the conflicts between both personality facets can be easily utilized to generate both drama and comedy. Can be form of Wish Fulfillment especially if it's obvious the male lead is an Author Avatar.
Tsundere can be divided into two main categories, depending on their default mood:
Type A (alias Type Tsun or harsh): These Tsundere have tsuntsun as their default mood. It takes something special to trigger their deredere side. The intensity of the tsuntsun can range from "I must glare and fight my way through life" (Louise of Zero no Tsukaima) to grumpy pessimism (Kagami of Lucky Star). It's about which part of the tsundere personality is the public face and which the hidden. If the Tsundere is The Rival, she is more likely to be Type A. Helping a rival out is usually accompanied by a line like "Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing this for you."

Type A can overlap with a Jerk with a Heart of Gold, but usually not. The moods of a Tsundere tend to switch in reaction to the actions of select people or adverse scenarios; the deredere side usually only comes out when someone has acted in a way to trigger it. A Jerk with a Heart of Gold is jerkish in general regardless of whether the other person is mean or nice, and shows their Hidden Heart of Gold only when the situation warrants, regardless of how the other person had been acting. Male characters in particular should be considered for Jerk with a Heart of Gold status, as arguably because of Double Standards, men are generally that instead of tsundere, although the kuudere subtype is more equally split in gender. Oranyan is sometimes used to refer to a male tsundere character - incorrectly since it means the complete opposite.
Type B (alias Type Dere or sweet): These Tsundere have deredere as their default mood. They are sweet, kind and generous, but just happen to have a hidden violent side as well. In this case, temper is almost always triggered by someone or something else, usually a Love Interest. Either they have Belligerent Sexual Tension, or are an idiot, or are an Accidental Pervert, or just has no idea how to handle feelings of love and attraction.

Type B should not be confused with a Yandere. If a Type B Tsundere were really convinced that their Love Interest didn't want them, they would revert back to the deredere side and probably enter an I Want My Beloved to Be Happy phase.

No need to have to read that as most of us already know it. Just posting for purpose.


Pro SS video:
Anyone want to tackle?

(Edit: erugh. at the attacking part. Sasuke DID try to attack Sakura in the first shippuden meet.)

Edited by iamfenris, 14 November 2011 - 12:24 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

If anyone knows someone like a friend irl that likes NH or SS, can you ask them why they like the pairings that will ruin the development of Naruto?

[LegendaryArcanine42]

Seriously? Seriously? Seriously.
Why hate a character because of their breast size, that's just... stupid.
Anyway, I guess they don't want to face Sakura is a Tsundere.
I feel like stapling this on every NS panel/episode where they show Sakura hitting her Naruto.

Long. --Click here to view--

No need to have to read that as most of us already know it. Just posting for purpose.


Pro SS video:
Anyone want to tackle?

(Edit: erugh. at the attacking part. Sasuke DID try to attack Sakura in the first shippuden meet.)

Tackle? No...

Troll? Yes please

[FoolishYoungling]

Tackle? No...

Troll? Yes please

They are not really trolling us, you see, I have learned something today (that I'm not putting in the "What did you learn today" thread). The truth is, that whenever these NH or SS fans make these videos or post on what the manga is like, but only make lies, they are only trolling themselves and their fellow pairing supporters, not us, and we laugh at it, knowing we always have the upper hand to knock them down. So guys, lets just be happy we are voting for the best pairing, you know, the one that doesn't screw up things.

[Fenris]

Tackle? No...

Troll? Yes please

XD It'd be lovely to.

But someone said this, though:

True, Naruto doesn't have feelings for Hinata, but who knows, That could probably change one day. Also, Sasuke doesn't despise Sakura. Infact he cares about her alot. Deep in his heart and soul, Sakura is a very precious person to him and he would probably be very upset if something happened to her.

.."Very upset if something happened to her."

They are not really trolling us, you see, I have learned something today (that I'm not putting in the "What did you learn today" thread). The truth is, that whenever these NH or SS fans make these videos or post on what the manga is like, but only make lies, they are only trolling themselves and their fellow pairing supporters, not us, and we laugh at it, knowing we always have the upper hand to knock them down. So guys, lets just be happy we are voting for the best pairing, you know, the one that doesn't screw up things.

You're totally correct. I agree. They're only trolling themselves.

Edited by iamfenris, 14 November 2011 - 12:42 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

XD It'd be lovely to.

But someone said this, though:



.."Very upset if something happened to her."

Which explains why he has tried to kill her 3 times now..

[Anguyen92]

They are not really trolling us, you see, I have learned something today (that I'm not putting in the "What did you learn today" thread). The truth is, that whenever these NH or SS fans make these videos or post on what the manga is like, but only make lies, they are only trolling themselves and their fellow pairing supporters, not us, and we laugh at it, knowing we always have the upper hand to knock them down. So guys, lets just be happy we are voting for the best pairing, you know, the one that doesn't screw up things.

Ahhhh, yes, the whole their attempts to try to make us look bad, which as a result, is making them look worst and therefore, making the reputation of making their pairing worst to those that are non-shippers (if there are some in the series).

The key is to try to make their pairing look good without any over the top fact that can't be proven or bashing (mainly Sakura bashing). Now, if earlier in part one, during the exams, if they are saying their reasons and all of that, then I can accept that. However, nothing really has developed much since then, and the opposite pairing (NaruSaku) has gotten a lot of steam throughout the chapters, so there it is.

I don't mind them supporting it as a crack pairing, but as a canon pairing and trying to make certain things look canon? Not so much.

[FoolishYoungling]

Ahhhh, yes, the whole their attempts to try to make us look bad, which as a result, is making them look worst and therefore, making the reputation of making their pairing worst to those that are non-shippers (if there are some in the series).

The key is to try to make their pairing look good without any over the top fact that can't be proven or bashing (mainly Sakura bashing). Now, if earlier in part one, during the exams, if they are saying their reasons and all of that, then I can accept that. However, nothing really has developed much since then, and the opposite pairing (NaruSaku) has gotten a lot of steam throughout the chapters, so there it is.

I don't mind them supporting it as a crack pairing, but as a canon pairing and trying to make certain things look canon? Not so much.

Plus look at my sig! Sasuke does not deserve something as cute as that. He wouldn't know how to care for it.