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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:29 PM

The sad thing is Viz just has to translate the manga.  They didn't need to worry about lip-syncing and syllable count like when doing the English dub of the anime.  Manga doesn't require any of that.  They just needed to translate what was already written, yet they feel the need to change some things even with that.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:30 PM

yeah because if you think about it with Hinata and her confession , she was the first girl to come in Naruto's way with the confession . But Sakura has been shown to actually understand Naruto and want to get to understand him and his past and she wants to actually spend time with him . Hinata don't know nothing about Naruto except for his nindo which she doesn't really follow through anyways besides sucking the confidence from Naruto at the sidelines while Sakura actually wants to be besides Naruto through any hard challenge she doesn't want Naruto to undergo anything alone . 

 

Sakura was telling the truth with her confession she was going to tell him she loved him from the bottom of her heart , but once again Naruto cut her off . Sakura named the reasosn , 

 

1. Naruto has always been by her side 

2. she can hold him anytime because he is next to her like this . 

3. she feels safe and secure around him . 

4. she can always count on him to be there for her . 

 

She named a good amount of reasons because actually meant it but that is my opinion she didn't lie to him , Naruto is just so closeminded because eveytme Sakura displays how much she loves Naruto ,Naruto is either passed out or he isn't paying any attention  . 

She did lie, what is surprisingly is that after all that she doesnt love him, no matter what people say that she was honest on love Naurot, the summit proves the contrary which she even shows it on her flashbacks, this is one of the big parts why SS is inconsistent and ridiculous, She says all the things Naruto did to her and when she goes to kill Sasuke the only things where she has about Sasuke is she smiling on the background with Sasuke not caring about it.

 

She has valid reasons to love Naruto, but she didnt loved him there, but thsoe were the reasons why she chose Naruto there, she didnt loved him but she acknowledged that she would be happy with him, Naruto didnt accepted because she was rather trying to convince herself and Naruto that she was in love with him and not Sasuke and plus his close-minded approach to Sakura.

 

The conclusion is that Naruto still is close-minded and Sakura despite not loving Naruto views him on a romantic light not just as a friend anymore, she does acknowledge him as a lover, she's slowly loving him and she made her decision already and lately i see her trying to prove herself to Naruto, the path to radiance and even when she confronts Naruto to prove that she's strong.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:40 PM

It really makes me laugh every time I see a NaruHina fan saying Hinata is more like Kushina than Sakura. Okay, seriously. They have nothing in common!



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:45 PM

She did lie, what is surprisingly is that after all that she doesnt love him, no matter what people say that she was honest on love Naurot, the summit proves the contrary which she even shows it on her flashbacks, this is one of the big parts why SS is inconsistent and ridiculous, She says all the things Naruto did to her and when she goes to kill Sasuke the only things where she has about Sasuke is she smiling on the background with Sasuke not caring about it.

 

She has valid reasons to love Naruto, but she didnt loved him there, but thsoe were the reasons why she chose Naruto there, she didnt loved him but she acknowledged that she would be happy with him, Naruto didnt accepted because she was rather trying to convince herself and Naruto that she was in love with him and not Sasuke and plus his close-minded approach to Sakura.

 

The conclusion is that Naruto still is close-minded and Sakura despite not loving Naruto views him on a romantic light not just as a friend anymore, she does acknowledge him as a lover, she's slowly loving him and she made her decision already and lately i see her trying to prove herself to Naruto, the path to radiance and even when she confronts Naruto to prove that she's strong.

Sakura would have to do something to prove to Naruto that he makes her happy . She would have to choose him over Sasuke when the time comes and he would have to see her do it so he can stop being closeminded , but regardless I still believe that he will show her that he loves her or at least confess because he already said he would do it . 

 

These valid reasons she named proved that she was acknowledging Naruto the whole time and putting her trust in him and Naruto still doens't want to believe it , Sakura would have to literally kiss him in front of Sasuke and tell Sasuke kitten you before Naruto would believe it  . 

 

Yeah , I also believe that she realized that she would perfectly happy without Sasuke as long as Naruto is there , she would rather lose Sasuke than lose Naruto , which comes back to question , why would she kill the man she loves romantically (Sasuke) over somebody who is just a friend (Naruto ) that she doesn't care about romantically also .? The answer is quite simple she realized who is better for her . 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:46 PM

It really makes me laugh every time I see a NaruHina fan saying Hinata is more like Kushina than Sakura. Okay, seriously. They have nothing in common!

hmmm , one is rash , loud , outspoken and confident in themselves and the other is quiet , dependant on people and extremely shy with no backbone hmmm , do you see similarities .?


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:48 PM

It really makes me laugh every time I see a NaruHina fan saying Hinata is more like Kushina than Sakura. Okay, seriously. They have nothing in common!

The only thing that make me laugh is that both the anime team and games must have been feelings ridiculous now, i just finished Naruto ultimate ninja impact and Hinata had the 64-palms.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:51 PM

Nope. I certainly do not. It seems with each passing chapter the other fandoms come up with more and more excuses out of thin air. It's really getting annoying arguing with a NH or SS fan using several manga chapters as proof, and they just brush it off or come up with something from a fanfiction they read in the past. 

 

I think Kishi's just giving side characters like Hinata some screen time before the manga ends. I read somewhere Naruto will end in 7 months or so. It's waaaaay too late for NaruHina in my books, and SasuSaku may as well be put in the coffin. But I guess we'll see.

 

@Darkrcrst: Are those games any good? I remember I bought Rise of a ninja from game stop a few years back and I hated it. But I've heard some good things about these later Naruto games.

 

LOL! Hinata doing 64-palm. Yeah...I'm sure that's gonna happen  :roll:


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:52 PM

The only thing that make me laugh is that both the anime team and games must have been feelings ridiculous now, i just finished Naruto ultimate ninja impact and Hinata had the 64-palms.

Yeah, so whoops.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:58 PM

Nope. I certainly do not. It seems with each passing chapter the other fandoms come up with more and more excuses out of thin air. It's really getting annoying arguing with a NH or SS fan using several manga chapters as proof, and they just brush it off or come up with something from a fanfiction they read in the past. 

 

I think Kishi's just giving side characters like Hinata some screen time before the manga ends. I read somewhere Naruto will end in 7 months or so. It's waaaaay too late for NaruHina in my books, and SasuSaku may as well be put in the coffin. But I guess we'll see.

 

@Darkrcrst: Are those games any good? I remember I bought Rise of a ninja from game stop a few years back and I hated it. But I've heard some good things about these later Naruto games.

 

LOL! Hinata doing 64-palm. Yeah...I'm sure that's gonna happen  :roll:

Naruto ultimate ninja impact is the best Naruto game for PSP, there's an emulator called PPSSPP (Windows/Android/IOS) but i wont talk no further because of piracy.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:17 PM

Meh, i was just making assumptions , but what i was trying to say was that even with the altered VIZ translation it helps NS again and not NH.

Btw , i saw the VIZ for 631 why is there the girlfriend part written girl-friend ? Are they trying to be manipulative/unprofessional  or the B word again?


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:19 PM

Nope. I certainly do not. It seems with each passing chapter the other fandoms come up with more and more excuses out of thin air. It's really getting annoying arguing with a NH or SS fan using several manga chapters as proof, and they just brush it off or come up with something from a fanfiction they read in the past. 

 

I think Kishi's just giving side characters like Hinata some screen time before the manga ends. I read somewhere Naruto will end in 7 months or so. It's waaaaay too late for NaruHina in my books, and SasuSaku may as well be put in the coffin. But I guess we'll see.

 

@Darkrcrst: Are those games any good? I remember I bought Rise of a ninja from game stop a few years back and I hated it. But I've heard some good things about these later Naruto games.

 

LOL! Hinata doing 64-palm. Yeah...I'm sure that's gonna happen  :roll:

Get the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games 1-3  and get Naruto Broken Bonds .  I'm going to get part 4 when it comes for the Ultimate Ninja Storm games . 

 

I remember a chpatrer where Hinata was having wishful thinking about doing the 64 palms but lols she never got it done . 

 

and don't worry about it at all , Sakura is the only girl to be compared to Kushina and Naruto is compared to both Kushina and Minato , the only girl that can be compared to Minato is Sakura . Hinata isn't like any of them at all , Hinata is just paralleled to Hinata lols . 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:21 PM

Meh, i was just making assumptions , but what i was trying to say was that even with the altered VIZ translation it helps NS again and not NH.

Btw , i saw the VIZ for 631 why is there the girlfriend part written girl-friend ? Are they trying to be manipulative/unprofessional  or the B word again?

Regardless of what VIZ did , we all know what Kishimoto meant and that was girlfriend  and we can tell by Sakura's reaction what Minato meant and after blessing their future relationship we know what it means . 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:23 PM

^ That much i know , but i was just curious why they wrote it like that.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:24 PM

Whats NH'S latest "evidence"/anti NS ?

This one made me crack up

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"Who do you think Sakura is looking at in the middle of the battle? Why do you think she's smiling like that? Who was so important for Sakura that she let herself wide open just to look back and smile at that person? Certainly it's not because of Naruto. Especially because of the next page Sakura totally ignored Naruto and she have said, what a surprise, SASUKE's name..."

 

I really enjoy seeing extreme fans twist and blow things out of proportion.

 

 

The only thing that make me laugh is that both the anime team and games must have been feelings ridiculous now, i just finished Naruto ultimate ninja impact and Hinata had the 64-palms.

Huh I thought Hinata was able to use 64 palm against an average juubi.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:26 PM

Meh, i was just making assumptions , but what i was trying to say was that even with the altered VIZ translation it helps NS again and not NH.

Btw , i saw the VIZ for 631 why is there the girlfriend part written girl-friend ? Are they trying to be manipulative/unprofessional  or the B word again?

Actually, I agree with you. I have said a long time ago, but somehow I get brushed off. It's ok. Lol.

Actually, it's the same. If it didn't have a dash, well, then you can say it's something people would go in debate mode but whatever.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:27 PM

^ That much i know , but i was just curious why they wrote it like that.

my guess is that they tried to make Naruto look confused about the situation and seperate the word into different meanings where Naruto could have been naming her as both his girlfriend and his girl thats a friend . 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:33 PM

 

This one made me crack up

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"Who do you think Sakura is looking at in the middle of the battle? Why do you think she's smiling like that? Who was so important for Sakura that she let herself wide open just to look back and smile at that person? Certainly it's not because of Naruto. Especially because of the next page Sakura totally ignored Naruto and she have said, what a surprise, SASUKE's name..."

 

I really enjoy seeing extreme fans twist and blow things out of proportion.

 

 

 

 

Huh I thought Hinata was able to use 64 palm against an average juubi.

 

do they really consider this as a sign of SS happening .? lols seriously .? it looks like she was proud of her self at what she just did with such power .  and if they want to get technical it looks like she was turning to see Naruto's face because he is the only one that praises her and she knows it or it could be a follow up to 635 which proves she doens't trust sasuke because she probably thought Sasuke might have tried something  .  she only wants Naruto's acknowledgement she can care less for Sasuke's at this point . 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:35 PM

Actually, I agree with you. I have said a long time ago, but somehow I get brushed off. It's ok. Lol.

Actually, it's the same. If it didn't have a dash, well, then you can say it's something people would go in debate mode but whatever.

 

Viz is really that far ahead?  and their changing things again?  Why Viz?  Was it because "friend" happened to be on the next line or was it all together?


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:38 PM

 
Viz is really that far ahead?  and their changing things again?  Why Viz?

They're not caught up yet. Magazine yeah but not the volume books. Anyway, nobody really complained about that one, why start now. Again, same meaning. Let's not get reckless. Until I see the end of SS becoming a beginning of SS in Viz version, I'm not that bashful.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:47 PM

 

This one made me crack up

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"Who do you think Sakura is looking at in the middle of the battle? Why do you think she's smiling like that? Who was so important for Sakura that she let herself wide open just to look back and smile at that person? Certainly it's not because of Naruto. Especially because of the next page Sakura totally ignored Naruto and she have said, what a surprise, SASUKE's name..."

 

I really enjoy seeing extreme fans twist and blow things out of proportion.

 

 

Huh I thought Hinata was able to use 64 palm against an average juubi.

 

These people who create imaginary glimpses from Sasuke to Sakura and vise verse are the same disingenuous ones who deny Naruto's words/feelings flying out of his mouth , those are the ones i just tend to ignore.
 

 

my guess is that they tried to make Naruto look confused about the situation and seperate the word into different meanings where Naruto could have been naming her as both his girlfriend and his girl thats a friend . 

Or start a flame ship war..... like some other narutochoughpediacough sites.
 

 

Actually, I agree with you. I have said a long time ago, but somehow I get brushed off. It's ok. Lol.

Actually, it's the same. If it didn't have a dash, well, then you can say it's something people would go in debate mode but whatever.

Really? Didn't saw it :D , maybe i wasn't on the NS train(site) at that point ^^. Even though i stalked the thread for 200 pages lol .


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