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[HauntedCake]

Whats NH'S latest "evidence"/anti NS ?

[Superman333]

Whats NH'S latest "evidence"/anti NS ?

any random kitten out the air they could think of , I'm starting to believe they get all they evidence from fan fictions . 

[Canadian_DJ]

any random kitten out the air they could think of , I'm starting to believe they get all they evidence from fan fictions .

Haha, ya think?

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Whats NH'S latest "evidence"/anti NS ?

 

Let's not ask this question as it could lead to bashing.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 25 August 2013 - 05:10 PM.

[Psychox]

Well I guess people seem to forget the whole scene with Konohamaru when he asked if she was his girlfriend and she denied it and punched him . 

 

But this time she gave Minato the same face that Naruto gave to Sai when Sai exposed Naruto's love for Sakura and the same face Karin gave to the guy that exposed her love for Sasuke . That tells me Sakura's love for Naruto has been exposed :)

Actually ,  a NH fan used the Konohamaru scene to ''prove'' to me that he joked about  his ''failed crush'' aka his feelings , well, we got to the point of proving him wrong ,but that's irrelevant .

Maybe , her face looked  more like surprised and irritated that he wastes his energy talking , but then again i could be wrong .


I've been thinking about Kushina's words how Naruto was suppose to find someone like his mother and i want to share it with you guys . I recall good that the official translation verbiage in the context was differentially converted from ''someone like me'' to ''Dont fall for the first one that comes in your way''

I though about it and came to the conclusion that Naruto wasn't suppose to meet someone exactly as his mom , but someone who knows him and understands him , because when the first one (hinata) had laid  eyes on  him since they were little , but never approached him and confessed his love he was shocked and he was in a critical situation.
Now for the second woman to have fallen for him or eventually anyway , she would have had more time to get to know him at least or spend an hour or two .  In other words the big difference between the first and the second is that the second was by your side actually to see/view you , who are you ,what are you , what kind of a person are you .

Which leads me to Sakura's confession and her explanation WHY  she loves him . Meaning that there should be a reason behind i love you not just saying it .
Now, this is just a conjecture and it may sound stupid , but i would like to know what you guys think. ^^.

[Canadian_DJ]

I agree, lets just drop this overly-used tolic thats really irrelevant and just useless nonsense. If we're gonna talk about a fanbase lets talk about the japanese fanbase. Lol.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Whats NH'S latest "evidence"/anti NS ?

I don't know. I let you figure it out the punch line.

[Superman333]

Haha, ya think?

well they sure as hell ain't getting it from the manga . lols . 

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Actually ,  a NH fan used the Konohamaru scene to ''prove'' to me that he joked about  his ''failed crush'' aka his feelings , well, we got to the point of proving him wrong ,but that's irrelevant .

Maybe , her face looked  more like surprised and irritated that he wastes his energy talking , but then again i could be wrong .


I've been thinking about Kushina's words how Naruto was suppose to find someone like his mother and i want to share it with you guys . I recall good that the official translation verbiage in the context was differentially converted from ''someone like me'' to ''Dont fall for the first one that comes in your way''

I though about it and came to the conclusion that Naruto wasn't suppose to meet someone exactly as his mom , but someone who knows him and understands him , because when the first one (hinata) had laid  eyes on  him since they were little , but never approached him and confessed his love he was shocked and he was in a critical situation.
Now for the second woman to have fallen for him or eventually anyway , she would have had more time to get to know him at least or spend an hour or two .  In other words the big difference between the first and the second is that the second was by your side actually to see/view you , who are you ,what are you , what kind of a person are you .

Which leads me to Sakura's confession and her explanation WHY  she loves him . Meaning that there should be a reason behind i love you not just saying it .
Now, this is just a conjecture and it may sound stupid , but i would like to know what you guys think. ^^.

 

I don't think Kushina really put that much deep meaning into it, but this is an interesting way to look at it.  You can interpret Hinata as the first since she confessed first.  Still, I don't know why Viz changed the meaning in the first place, as the original made more sense.

[rocci]

There's argument that say naruto poal is the way naruto accepting that ss is "the end game".

[Psychox]

I just think that if someone practically a stranger tells you ''I love you '' you shouldn't start a relationship with him, but first to get to know him and like him if you dont love/like someone else.

[Superman333]

Actually ,  a NH fan used the Konohamaru scene to ''prove'' to me that he joked about  his ''failed crush'' aka his feelings , well, we got to the point of proving him wrong ,but that's irrelevant .

Maybe , her face looked  more like surprised and irritated that he wastes his energy talking , but then again i could be wrong .


I've been thinking about Kushina's words how Naruto was suppose to find someone like his mother and i want to share it with you guys . I recall good that the official translation verbiage in the context was differentially converted from ''someone like me'' to ''Dont fall for the first one that comes in your way''

I though about it and came to the conclusion that Naruto wasn't suppose to meet someone exactly as his mom , but someone who knows him and understands him , because when the first one (hinata) had laid  eyes on  him since they were little , but never approached him and confessed his love he was shocked and he was in a critical situation.
Now for the second woman to have fallen for him or eventually anyway , she would have had more time to get to know him at least or spend an hour or two .  In other words the big difference between the first and the second is that the second was by your side actually to see/view you , who are you ,what are you , what kind of a person are you .

Which leads me to Sakura's confession and her explanation WHY  she loves him . Meaning that there should be a reason behind i love you not just saying it .
Now, this is just a conjecture and it may sound stupid , but i would like to know what you guys think. ^^.

yeah because if you think about it with Hinata and her confession , she was the first girl to come in Naruto's way with the confession . But Sakura has been shown to actually understand Naruto and want to get to understand him and his past and she wants to actually spend time with him . Hinata don't know nothing about Naruto except for his nindo which she doesn't really follow through anyways besides sucking the confidence from Naruto at the sidelines while Sakura actually wants to be besides Naruto through any hard challenge she doesn't want Naruto to undergo anything alone . 

 

Sakura was telling the truth with her confession she was going to tell him she loved him from the bottom of her heart , but once again Naruto cut her off . Sakura named the reasosn , 

 

1. Naruto has always been by her side 

2. she can hold him anytime because he is next to her like this . 

3. she feels safe and secure around him . 

4. she can always count on him to be there for her . 

 

She named a good amount of reasons because actually meant it but that is my opinion she didn't lie to him , Naruto is just so closeminded because eveytme Sakura displays how much she loves Naruto ,Naruto is either passed out or he isn't paying any attention  . 

Edited by Superman333, 25 August 2013 - 05:32 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

There's argument that say naruto poal is the way naruto accepting that ss is "the end game".

Not sure why. Clearly, he's doing it to keep her happy and always stay happy since he believes Sasuke is the only guy to make her happy. I guess that's why Naruto always miss her smiles when she does. Us audience are supposed to dig the clues and get the idea that she is changing to loving him. If he admits SS is endgame, why he still loves her? Why he still wants to confess? Why he doesn't tell Sai that she loves Sasuke instead blaming himself for not being worthy of a man. I let them think...

[Psychox]

There's argument that say naruto poal is the way naruto accepting that ss is "the end game".

Heard that comment from both fandoms , but they flail miserably since Naruto is now aware that there is something more between him and Sakura , plus he already knows that Sasuke isn't the only man that actually can make her happy .

Also got to my ear that he will make SS canon........

[Superman333]

There's argument that say naruto poal is the way naruto accepting that ss is "the end game".

Naruto does not and I repeat does not support SS . Naruto supports Sakura's happiness . Naruto wants Sakura to be his , no matter how selfless he is he wants Sakura to be his , he is in love with her . And with the way things is going SS is out of the whole tournament already .  and if he supports SS he clearly doesn't seem to think to highly of it being the fact that he still asks her on dates , he still smiles at her for being amazing and he called her his girlfriend I think he is starting to realize that he is the source of her happiness . 

Edited by Superman333, 25 August 2013 - 05:34 PM.

[Psychox]

Naruto does not and I repeat does not support SS . Naruto supports Sakura's happiness . Naruto wants Sakura to be his , no matter how selfless he is he wants Sakura to be his , he is in love with her . And with the way things is going SS is out of the whole tournament already .  and if he supports SS he clearly doesn't seem to think to highly of it being the fact that he still asks her on dates , he still smiles at her for being amazing and he called her his girlfriend I think he is starting to realize that he is the source of her happiness . 

I've read something about chakras on wikipedia not ninja's ,but something related to japanese culture and believes .  Yes, but he has shown that he can let go of her if necessary when the poal scene occurred, meaning acceptance ,doing so he opens one but in the the same time locks the 4th chakra which is located in the heart . This may sound cheesy , but its a theory .
SO, thats why he didnt believe Sakura's confession , i think ^^>

[Superman333]

I've read something about chakras on wikipedia not ninja's ,but something related to japanese culture and believes .  Yes, but he has shown that he can let go of her if necessary when the poal scene occurred, meaning acceptance ,doing so he opens one but in the the same time locks the 4th chakra which is located in the heart . This may sound cheesy , but its a theory .
SO, thats why he didnt believe Sakura's confession , i think ^^>

sounds interesting but you can explain it a little clearer please .? why didn't he believe the confession .?

Edited by Superman333, 25 August 2013 - 05:48 PM.

[Psychox]

sounds interesting but you can explain it a little clearer please .? why didn't he believe the confession .?

By choosing acceptance that she will never look/feel the same way she feels about Sasuke for him , he locks the 4th charka away . Doing that he is unaware of her affection thus proving the fact that he misses the warm looks , the ramen scene etc.

Edited by Psychox, 25 August 2013 - 05:52 PM.

[Superman333]

By choosing acceptance that she will never look/feel the same way she feels about Sasuke for him , he locks the 4th charka away . Doing that he is unaware of her affection thus proving the fact that he misses the warm looks , the ramen scene etc.

that makes a lot of sense . Once he catches one of these looks he will open up that fourth chakra and stop being oblivious to Sakura's love for him .  So basically it is up to Sakura to open Naruto's eyes , but it seems like he is opening his eyes slowly as the time goes on . 

Edited by Superman333, 25 August 2013 - 06:58 PM.

[Inferno180]

How about this simple fact?

 

The translation of "don't fall for the first one that comes your way" is just dumb, the original context matters more, if it was originally written as "find someone like your mother" well Kishi just proved that with 631, don't know why Viz had to change it but it makes a contradictory statement now. I mean if NH fans use the translation of this as proof for NH, then whats the deal with 631 then? How is viz going to handle this despite Naruto still liking Sakura and considering her his girlfriend? Original context is the priority matter over translated, hell in DBZ it was never supposed to be over 9000 with a long scream, it was just supposed to be over 8000 with a quick grunt and vegeta crushing the scanner, no screaming at all. So at this point, well yeah the original context has matter and priority over that. Sakura is still the only girl compared to Kushina, only girl so far like his mother, that simple. The only way Kushina's words would be wrong is if she only told Naruto to find a girl like her, not start a relationship with that girl so if he only had to find Sakura, then it would be done. But you see how freaking stupid that sounds? Kushina said," You'll want a girlfriend someday, try to find someone like your mother." When Minato comes it, "Are you Naruto's girlfriend?" With Naruto basically considering Sakura like that well, with a Kushina comparison, well this has to lead to somewhere especially since Naruto still views Sakura with big hearts in his eyes to consider her his gf. The translation may have said that but it ain't showing any dice, when it comes down to it, Viz was just being retarded, possibly NH biased translators. But seriously, this translation difference just hurts NH even more, its a translation not showing the original intent if the context then and the content now mean 2 different things. Minato seeing Sakura like Kushina and the Viz translation do not equal, viz made a mistake. Viz only translated, didn't speak the original intent. This just hurts NH even more, using a translation as proof rather than orginal dialouge. Likewise, this is not even including the drastic amount of evidence NS has over NH. When it comes to it pairing wise, the amount of evidence is like in a game of Monoploy, NS has almost all the properties with hotels, or the majority of the space. NH only has the light blue properties with a couple houses, SS has nothing, almost bankrupt, and currently in jail. When a game of monoploy turns out like that, a drastic turnaround is near impossible, you cannot go back in a game like that, Kishi cannot just unwrite what he put in all these years. NS has a major advantage, NH is very minor compared to it, SS is in jail, about to go bankrupt. Its like if you moved, what has the highest chance of happening at this point? NS, NH, or SS? SS not at all, no properties. NH only if you are around the light blue areas, but NS has the rest of the borad, so which has the highest chance to get money in this game metaphor? NS. NS has the majority of evidence, development, and even parallels (consider the parallels like the railroads for this metaphor) Its just that simple at this point. NS has the advantage and it will all lead somewhere. At this point I only see part of Naruto's final development succeeding with Sakura and for Sakura, loving Naruto. I just cannot see Sakura with Sasuke or independent with nothing, I mean she cannot go to Sasuke, that would just ruin her development. NaruSaku is the best pairing ending, manga has been showing it for reasons. NS its all uphill and all pointing to it.