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[StriderC]

Well latley I've been seeing people feeling doubtful but I want to stay positive
 

What does that mean?

nervous and excited I'm guessing. Lol

[luffyq1]

I'm gonna create an account at both Naruto Forums and Naruto base. I've also been checking out the NH/SS tags on tumblr lately. And i just subscribed to FornerverWorld and that other guy so when they post the next chapter review, I'll get a notice. I swear to god i will troll the crap outta everyone.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I am going to be respectful cause I think we are better than that.

[unhskikrforever]

When NS is confirmed, will we be respectful about it or go out and troll. I honesty am usually a very respectful person towards other people's preference but these past few weeks its been really pissing me off at all the trolls we get and all the NH fans trolling on NS videos or other NS related things. What will you do.

Exactly! Their arrogance is over the top at the moment. Did you see their tumblr posts? And the youtube comments? Dayum.

I'm usually respectful towards them too but when NS is finally canon, I would be trolling them all over on tumblr. I'm going to crosstag all I want. Muahahahaha. And I ain't going to care no more.

[unhskikrforever]

I am going to be respectful cause I think we are better than that.

We can be mean for once.

[SuperChief]

I am going to be respectful cause I think we are better than that.

kitten taking the high road. It's not like any other ship got half as much hate as NS did because people wanted to see Sakura either dead or in an angsty relationship and Naruto with the quiet pretty girl with big kittens that was so angelic and much better than that "selfish kitten" Sakura in "every way."

I'd set this entire fandom on fire and watch it burn to the ground if I could. It's been super obnoxious to be a part of it and the day I can finally turn my back on it will be a good day indeed. I just want NaruSaku to happen and it's really the last thing I still care about.

Edited by SuperChief, 03 November 2014 - 03:08 AM.

[luffyq1]

I am going to be respectful cause I think we are better than that.

i will admit, i'm not going to be respectful at all. 

 

sorry.

[Konohakitten]

Do people even care about the writing that goes into a pairing before it happens? That's what people should be using to determine the chances of any of these pairings. Kishimoto wouldn't choose a pairing that has poor build-up.

 

This is what always pissed me off about debating with NaruHina and SasuSaku. THEY NEVER GAVE A kitten ABOUT IT. They just want their pairing to happen without any development that makes any sense!

 

I feel your pain, none that I've ever come across listen to reason. What's scary is that most of them read the manga, I just can't wrap my brain around their twisted logic.

[narusaku256]

Some new info is out? Again an NH tease? What is it exactly?

[oksus]

http://www.naruto-mo.../staffcast.html

Who exactly is the director and has he/she done any other movie ?

Also who is mentioned as main cast ?

[Atheck]

Hand seals aren't just related to the speed weaving of the seals but also moulding the exact amount of chakra, i.e. chakra control. Naruto has greater chakra control feats than any of the characters you mentioned and he's faster than all of them if not most of them in base mode.

Signs

Symbolizes one's knowledge and proficiency in seals.

Proficiency implying quality of chakra regulation in the seals, quantity of seal patterns, and the actual execution of seals. I overlooked the fact of creating seals was related to the balancing and exertion of chakra, but from what I'm reading, it's just a single variable out several. Naruto's acuteness with specific patterns and his experience with them is still very much lacking.

Naruto was taught how to break genjutsu by Jiraiya. Granted, he failed to break out of one the one time he tried, however, that was against Itachi, who is a top tier genjutsu user. On average, I've seen characters that have never used genjutsu and/or simply aren't the type with 3/5 genjutsu stats, presumably because they can break them. I figured 3/5 would be a fairly accurate guess.

Learning how to discern when a genjutsu has been cast and developing the necessary defences to counter them is a basic lesson for most shinobi. If you're making a loose reference to specialists like Guy having a 3 in genjutsu, I would keep in that he's a Jonin ranked shinobi (not a Tokubetsu Jonin) who has had decades to improve himself and lacks the same dependencies on bijuu as Naruto does.
 

Sakura has mastered several S-ranked medical ninjutsu. With the exception of that one jutsu Tsunade against Kabuto, Sakura has displayed all of them.

Two, actually, and both are derivative steps of the Byakugou Seal. It's very impressive, but hardly enough to justify giving Sakura a perfect 5. Not with her occasional moments of confusion with like Chidori during the Chunin Exams, Naruto's Yang regenerative technique (Regenerating lost organs and limbs is supposed to be a trait of rge Byakugou, right? Why would she be asking for specifics about this healing process - as if she doesn't have a technique very similar to it - when she's supposed to have an understanding of the mechanics behind healing, medicine and restoration?), and the transdimensional technique of Kaguya's which Kakashi already had a grasp of. She might have proven herself enough to warrant a 4.5 though.
 
It's mostly the lack of diverse applicability of her strength, uninspiring and scarce taijutsu feats, less impressive accomplishments in her unique field of study (Tsunade is the one who founded and spearheaded the entire medical institution of Konoha. For specific feats, she was considered to be the only one who could restore Orochimaru's arms and she reversed the neuronal and vessel damage caused to Sasuke and Kakashi's brains by Tsukuyomi.) weaker physical resistances to attacks, and her smaller pool of experience that makes Sakura inferior to Tsunade. For specific techniques, Sakura has yet to use Ranshinshō and Tsūtenkyaku, not much, but they factors that go against the idea of superiority.
 

She has also displayed greater strength and speed feats than Tsunade in the war arc.

Of course, and Hiruzen almost completely sidestepped an attack from a rampant Jubi jinchuuriki as an old man with an average stat of 3 in speed. I have no doubt that Sakura's speed has increased, but not to the extent where it could be considered incredible, not with other characters having semi-comparable feats and no provable increases to their stats.
 

She also healed and maintained the health of the entire shinobi alliance army and didn't run out of chakra until the very end after several days of nearly nonstop healing and fighting.

Actually, Sakura didn't throw herself directly into the ring until #632. She spent most of the war tending to wounded soldiers at a medical outpost before being arriving as reinforcements for Naruto and friends. And most of the healing done in the battle against the Jubi was handled by drawing power from the Byakugou.

She healed Kakashi, channeled chakra to Darui's attack, and then brought Naruto back to fighting condition before her seal appeared. They're not exactly tell-tale signs of enormous reserves stamina, are they?

Kakashi has proven himself to have greater control and reserves of stamina in his fight against Obito, and I wouldn't give him anything higher than a 4.0. Sasuke defeated 1000 shinobi without taking a single bit of damage from any of them. We would assume that defeating just several handfuls might exhaust him, since he was having to constantly weave through and lunge at all of these men, avoiding all of their attacks with utmost precision (a difficult feat since he's facing such overwhelming odds) with his sword attacks to bring them down, yet his stamina in the 3rd Databook is listed at a 3.5.

For me personally, I think Sasuke's performance against the 1000 sound shinobi is a more apt example of great endurance in base than Sakura using a few techniques to heal and amplify three shinobi.
 

Sasuke spams high ranked jutsu almost as much as Naruto. His stamina is ungodly. There is no way he isn't 5/5 in that area.

As does Orochimaru, so why is his stamina listed at exactly the same level as Sasuke's? Could it be that there's some other mitigating factor that's allowing these characters use techniques that would normally be highly taxing so liberally? I would say so. Sasuke's usage of his taxing abilities has become more frequent since mastering his doujutsu. Mastery over the tool that creates the jutsu and refined chakra control could arguably be the deciding factors behind all of these techniques.
 

Itachi and B barely fought, so that's hardly a fair comparison, and B wasn't going all out since they were still talking.

We don't need much. Both Sasuke and Itachi were engaged by the same flurry of sword strikes by Bee at one point. Sasuke was overwhelmed. Itachi held himself together and was able to retreat.
 

Since fighting B, he's faced off against A, Madara and Naruto, all of whom possess strong taijutsu.

Sasuke's battle with A can be summed up as a speed and technique contest that was determining who could survive the other's one-shot killing abilities in time. It's hardly a good reference point for estimating taijutsu skill.

Madara is impressive, but we've arguably seen better from Sasuke. Once again, I refer to the image of the 1000 conquered shinobi (each one being at least Chunin rank since they have the standard combat vest of Otogakure) lying at Sasuke's feet with not a single scratch visible on his body.

I'll give you Naruto. But they didn't begin to seriously engage in taijutu until #697, and by that time, they were both exhausted and battered. Sasuke's reflexes and acuity were also being guided along the way by the Sharingan.

[Princess Iris]

i will admit, i'm not going to be respectful at all. 
 
sorry.

ikr it's hard to be

more importantly


I just hope we win!!

I can't be over confident

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Some of the NH/SS fans deserve to be trolled. They deserve to feel bad. At least the ones the bashing ones that act like we're idiots and have no respect for the possibility NS might just become canon instead of theirs. I won't show any mercy on those ones, but I'll feel bad for the nice ones and tell them that.

 

Their arrogance is dangerously high right now ... the fall off their high horse is definitely going to break some bones.

[Raito]

Being respectful? Yeah right. They're always mocking and trolling us, why should we be resectf?

[BlackBird19]

As much as I don't care about the movie I do understand why it's coming out. It's the last story Kishimoto will write for Naruto (at least for now). Considering he knew where his manga was going and how it was going to end he knew that since he had one more story in him that would be where he will take care of the fandom's most popular side character whether we like it or not. While not popular here, Hinata is popular overall and one of the original character designs Kishi came up with when he started Naruto. All members of team 7 will have been taken of or dealt with by manga's end, however that left one character who was given an emotional role in the manga not dealt with. That's why she'll be given relevance in the movie. It's filler but it's Kishi's personal filler therefore you'll be able to plug it into the original story's timeline. Doesn't mean you need it in the timeline to finish the original story. We may not like it but it's actually pretty smart on Kishi's behalf.

Edited by BlackBird19, 03 November 2014 - 03:20 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I gotta say, it is hard to show peace at first move. After the stuff they did, it's like an act of forgive or really beat them up, mentally. I mean I don't know how the reaction will go here but it should be...interesting.

[oksus]

LOL. You're so upfront about it xD
 
Well damn. Honestly, I kinda agree :/ Though I'm not going to insult the entire fanbase, it's not like all of them think that way and bash on us. I'm going after the people who I have personal issues with though, that's for sure.
 
 
I wish you could copy and paste from that site. Was this always there? If someone could translate this we would really appreciate it. 

I just saw it today

[oksus]

Also, does anyone else find it disturbing that there is no sketch for Hinata. It's almost like she wasn't even supposed to be part of the movie from Kishi POV.
The whole scarf and Childhood flashback reminds me so much of filler added by SP in anime U_U

[StriderC]

i will admit, i'm not going to be respectful at all. 
 
sorry.

lmao hell no. I'm gonna celebrate and smear it their faces. They're acting all douche - like and the movie ain't out yet nor is the manga over so I shall rain on their parade and enjoy myself while doing it. It won't be a one day event either. Lmao!