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Posted 29 June 2010 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (.Clover. @ Jun 29 2010, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You and I can tell from the naruhuana forum how many people we see wishing Sasuke as savior of the world, being Hokage after Naruto´s death and having lotz of children with Sakura err.gif . I love Sasuke, but he is deified as much as Hinata, or even more.



I think so, she did it for Naruto. Sai said (xD) it so, but they are obsessed with the part "because she can't see him sinking in darkness she will kill him, because she love him"

If you ask me, its sound like she will sacrifice a rabid dog. I Dont see love beyond the understanding anywhere, just a girl who is trying to finish the suffering of his friend. And killing him also is a way to move on of her crush, cause if Sasuke die, she will never be with him sleep.gif

In the other hand, I also see the Sai saying like a "reproach" to Narutos way to act towards Sasuke´s problem. He is saying this like "look Sakura who loves him, she is mature and know Sasuke is more a danger than a friend, DO SOMETHING TOO".. This is how I see this the first time... but the fandom.. they freak me out.. rolleyes.gif



Their strong argument is that Sakura couldnt kill him.. so she is not ready to let him go. This could be true, but she couldnt let him go yet as a friend too, not only as a lover.

And although she could not do that.. she agreed without hesitation when all of her colleagues agreed to kill Sasuke. Even Ino had more opposition than her. And meanwhile Naruto and Kakashi didnt want to harm Sasuke, Sakura actually tried.



I think its more than just how many times they hugged, I think it has more to see with the story itself. Even Kishimoto say Sakuras love towards Sasuke was selfish and childish. And having aside the fact he never loves her, Sasuke rejected her romantics feelings in pursuit of revenge long time ago and try to kill her FOUR TIMES, and Sakura try TWO. SasuSaku doesnt have any sense to me..

In the other hand, I see Sakura getting closer and closer to Naruto and Kishimoto doing increasingly unbelievable things to make Naruto look like his is ignoring all of this. I think NS, if it will be canon, it will be at the very end, but I see this couple with many more possibilities than SasuSaku biggrin.gif

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Something that i think is that NS is the one fandom that has no absolute rejections on the credibility of the fandom. Just think about it. (this is not bashing fandoms) NH has the whole issue with how Naruto doesn't recognize her feelings with his own and with the minuscule amount of attention Hinata gets. Plus, we have NEVER seen Naruto think anything of Hinata in a romantic way. Now fandoms may say that the confession was it but looks at all the NS afterwards that show nothing of Naruto thinking of Hinata but quite oddly blushing about Sakura instead. Now there's also SS to think about. Like you said, they've tried to kill each other more than once. I'd say that's a pretty big gimme. Then there's the fact that we haven't heard one true Sakura love Sasuke moment (like part 1) in the part 2 at all. As well as the continuing growth of NS. Lastly, let's look at NS. Are there actually any positive reasons that NS should not be possible? We really can't think of one. And the fact that Sakura is Sakura (the punching and baka's) doens't count. Being just the obvious points of why things should be so obvious but no one tends to recognize the obvious. Well, that's it....so just saying something that i feel is soo obvious sometimes.

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 08:10 PM

Well, when I say the whole hugging part I'm just giving examples.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:42 AM

sakura confessing was real kish said it sai reforced it he said sakura has moved from sasuke moved to naruto everything she did was for naruto an said and shurly you know that.

she wasn't lieing from what i have lernt from a friend japanese culture sees things much differently from our own kaka,naruto must also love sasuke heck they did less than sakura sakura has moved on and excepted that sasuke is evil yet the team mate bond is strong.

look at the three sonins.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jun 30 2010, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sakura confessing was real kish said it sai reforced it he said sakura has moved from sasuke moved to naruto everything she did was for naruto an said and shurly you know that.


umm......when sai did say that?????
and we discussed sakura confession was true before
even kishi dont say that sakura was true in her confession i my POV :
i am certain sakura was true in her confession (and also it is obvious) and i showed some of reasons before and i added now (i dont remember if any one said beofre what i will say now or now):

1-kishi from the first was planing to make sakura with naruto so he make (from part 1) sasuke never thinking in any way about her and when she said to him that she love him he said thank you ermm.gif

and from part 1 he make sakura go to tsuande to train her to protect naruto and from part 2 from the first chapter he make her attract to naruto saiying to him when she first met him if she like more woman and make alot of developments about feelings of sakura to towards naruto along all the part 2 and w ell see that and it is very obvious in the anime and he can make no develpments but he was planing from the first to make naruto with sakura and make her "" very anxious about naruto more than any one and when he is in a danger she is first who ask about him and also make her thinking about him and make her in many time ""i can do for naruto the small things only and i cant do big thing for him""

2-and kishi make alot of hints that sakura love naruto :
1-when naruto transfered to kubi by 4 tails and when sakura was healing him yamato said to her( i can say you are really .......)and he was interupted by naruto and he was will say " love naruto"

2-when naruto was training after sora's arc she was alwys watching him when he was trainging and when he was training to make the rasen shorken sai lie on her to show her real feelings to naruto and say (i know you will not mae any one saying any thing bad about naruto)and kishi can no make scene like thes but it was a hint from him that sakura start love naruto

3-if you watch the third naruto shippuden movie you will see kishi make sai hint for sakura love naruto 2 times (one in the begin of the film and one in the last of the film)

3-in chapter 488 we sakura smile on naruto sleeping way (that i have never seeing her smiling like that smile)and kishi can no show this smile but he show it to show us that she really love him
and also defensing for naruto by w a white lie that madara was there ...but he wasnot ther all the time
these thing also prove that sakura love naruto

4-in chapter 483 if you see was kishi worte on the cover : slowly both her and her friends are changing
(this is the second time to say that words..... he say it before by making iruka talikng to sakura and saying that)so it is a hint from him that sakura has changed and moved on from sasuke and now love naruto

5-and after i read her about how kishi put the character of sakura in kushina
and there who said (parallels don't make a couple canon)... ok i am with you but i think in it by different way and is not only an ordinary parallel but it was from all sides i will show my POV and it :

(if you think in that thing) why kishi make sakura and kushina every one hate somthing in her and minato was the first who make kushina not hate her haire and it was start of love kushina to minato like naruto when he complimented her forehead and make her not hate her forehead and she start love love him but as sasuke facepalm.png .and in the two sotry he make the boy (naruto and minato )who start love the girl(kushina and sakura)

and alsho in this picture :kishi can never out in the character of kushina this thing of sakura
but he was Intend and deliberately to make that and he was intended to make that hint and that parelle.
so that parllel was not from us it was from kishi and he was deliberately want to make it parllel

QUOTE (Toasty Warrior @ Jun 29 2010, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


nd again if you think why kishi make the parrels between the father and mother of the hero (naruto)
and the hero with who he love (sakura)
it is not ordinary paarelle that he make with naruto who naruto love (no who love naruto "hinata")

it is an very obvious hint from kishi that she like that story of love by make her only tow times
and that sakura will be with naruto

and i have onther thing: that kishi love skaura biggrin.gif (by make her name the name of the sakura tree "the most thing that most of the japan love it "and if you see how he talk aobut her in the interviews you will note that also)and he make that exaclty character of sakura in kushina also prove that kishi like these characters and if you not the he make the most of characters of the womans is violent like sakura
and he dosenot love the character of hinata(and the member "graveanimage prove that beofre")
so because he love sakura he will make her with the hero smile.gif and like i said before the stroy of kushina and minato prove that .

and also the parralles of the stroy of "kushina and minato" and "naruto and sakura" and making the charcter of sakura in kushina was also to certain what he start in chapter 450 and 488 about hinata
:that naruto never and will never think of hinata and he will alwys love sakura

and after all things and what said alos by the onther members i am sure that NH has no chance and the story of kushina and minato in my POV onther prove

and to any one who said that naruto dont love sakura now becuase he think she lying :(mentioned before by onther members):
first :to prove that naruto still love sakura and never hate her (in the manga):

1-how naruto will hate who he is love crazy (sakura) and he know from the first he loved her that she love sasuke but still love her crazy and make his life time promise about sasuke to sakura
and that promise show how naruto really love sakura crazy and every thing he do for her
so even he think that she lie .it dosenot change any thing

2-in chapter 484 w saw naruto hold sakura and save her from saskue and he dosnot show any thing that he hate her he show only only angry from sasuke .and if he hate he so why he save her by hold her and there was onther ways to save her not by hold her .

3-in chapter 485 w saw naruto say to sasuke " sakura is from team 7 also like you "if he hate her or see her only as friend (impossible)he could say "sakura love you ...you are goin to kill who love you"
but he never said somthing like that because he love her and want to be with her

4-in chapter 489 when sakura saying to him tsunade is back he like very happy and didnot show any thing that he hate her

5-and in chapter 474 when naruto told sai why sakura dosnt tell me the truth sai tell him (becuse she was thinking moving on form sasuke and telling you that she love you.. make you free from the promis....but you said to her you will chase sasuke....she was thinking about your feelings)ijn that scene not 3 things :
1-naruto feel guilty and remmber sakura face
2- if sakura was lying sai could say that (she thinking lying on you by saying that she love you.......)
but he never said somthing like that
3-sai tell him that she was thinking about him (so she love him)

after all things and and after what we discussed beforeand there many many reason that sakura love naruto :(in my POV):
1-NH i think it is now like impossilbe 2-sakura confession is ture 3- i dont know after what sai tell naruto in chpter 474 naruto think that sakura really love him or not 4-sakura has moved on from saskue but still team mate bonds is strong 5-kushina minato story was obvious hin from kishi that naruto wil be with sakura like his father and his mother

what do you thing about my opnion about sakura developments?(when i see kishi make it from the first time i know that he was planing to make her love him )

and now what i thinking and worried aobut it :
how naruto will say to sakura that he love her .....we know what he doing when she confessed her feelings to him......i need any one to reply for my question


and who is read what i wrote if you have some problems to understad me...i am sorry....but i do my best with this foreign languge (to me) wink.gif .
and also alot of what i wrote was said before by onther members but i was want to to collect some of waht have been said and i remmber to make it in one post to make easy for the new members to read somthing of waht we have discussed before .and there alot of things from page 20 that have been said but i cant remember it now
and to who want to be sure that sakura confession was not lie from all sides and dont forget what kishi said "that sakura was honest"


Edited by ahmed, 01 July 2010 - 12:09 AM.


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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (.Clover. @ Jun 29 2010, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I this part of the world nhers are saying

Kushina = Naruto because Jiraiya says
Minato = Hinata, because both are calm and nice..

If every who is calm and nice is like Minato then the HakuNaru, SandaimeNaru, SaiNaru, KakashiNaru, YuugoNaru, KurenaiNaru, etc etc etc are similar to MinaKushi then have chances to be canon kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

In other way, they are saying that see similarities between NS and MK is fool and make NS look like and edipo's complex, but they are clearly desperate to find the parallel for their pairing no matters what. headscratch.gif


It wasn't enough that the N/H fandom are comparing Kushina with Hinata but now you're saying that Minato is like Hinata facepalm.png. Minato has NO similiarity to Hinata whatsoever I can't believe Im hearing this, yes Minato was quiet and calm but Hinata was mainly shy and very insecure. She always blushed and fainted whenever she saw Naruto I don't think Minato blushed and fainted whenever he saw Kushina also he was very cofnident of his abilities he wasn't insecure. I'm sorry but comparing Minato with Hinata has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. facepalm.png

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:41 AM

....seems this topic's been dead for a few days.

Mmmk, here's a question then:

How do you interpret Sakura's apology to Naruto after her "confession"?
After saying that she'll return to the village, she turns away from Naruto and silently apologizes to Naruto with a sad/pained expression on her face.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/470/06/

I've heard of three different ways this can be taken:

1. Sakura's apologizing for trying to take him back with her by playing on his feelings for her. She feels guilty because he's called her out on it.
2. She's apologizing for not telling Naruto about everyone planning to kill Sasuke themselves, and because she chose to try and bring their feelings into the situation.
3. She's apologizing in advance because she's about to go after Sasuke herself, despite knowing that Naruto wouldn't want her to.

I have my own thoughts on what it could mean, but I wanna hear others' first =]

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 05:00 AM

The reason I believe they haven't had a meaningful conversation between the both of them lately, is because they might be in that awkward phase, or at least Naruto. As show by dark Naruto, Naruto was truly ready to accept that the village truly acknowledged him. The same possibly could be said for his views on Sakura's confession. The one thing that must be done is for the two of them to chat one on one for there relationship to fully blossom. This is just my thought and option though. smile.gif

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 05:16 AM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 30 2010, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
umm......when sai did say that?????
what do you thing about my opnion about sakura developments?(when i see kishi make it from the first time i know that he was planing to make her love him )

and now what i thinking and worried aobut it :
how naruto will say to sakura that he love her .....we know what he doing when she confessed her feelings to him......i need any one to reply for my question


and who is read what i wrote if you have some problems to understad me...i am sorry....but i do my best with this foreign languge (to me) wink.gif .
and also alot of what i wrote was said before by onther members but i was want to to collect some of waht have been said and i remmber to make it in one post to make easy for the new members to read somthing of waht we have discussed before .and there alot of things from page 20 that have been said but i cant remember it now
and to who want to be sure that sakura confession was not lie from all sides and dont forget what kishi said "that sakura was honest"



Look here's the deal ahmed, Goku has been repeating the same thing too much. Sai has never directly said that in my opinion.

QUOTE (Kushina @ Jul 4 2010, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....seems this topic's been dead for a few days.

Mmmk, here's a question then:

How do you interpret Sakura's apology to Naruto after her "confession"?
After saying that she'll return to the village, she turns away from Naruto and silently apologizes to Naruto with a sad/pained expression on her face.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/470/06/

I've heard of three different ways this can be taken:

1. Sakura's apologizing for trying to take him back with her by playing on his feelings for her. She feels guilty because he's called her out on it.
2. She's apologizing for not telling Naruto about everyone planning to kill Sasuke themselves, and because she chose to try and bring their feelings into the situation.
3. She's apologizing in advance because she's about to go after Sasuke herself, despite knowing that Naruto wouldn't want her to.

I have my own thoughts on what it could mean, but I wanna hear others' first =]


Sakura always had good intentions it's her nature to try to protect Naruto by any means, but from the way the manga has played out her feelings have been misdirected. That's the whole deal with the bench scene. It's possible that during her silence during the trip she was thinking of a plan and contemplating Naruto's feelings. From what you're saying it's a mixture, the truth is Sakura's intentions were as human as any character.


By apologizing it just proves that she's pained by going behind Naruto's back. Whether she was truly honest is left to interpretation. However we know her Sasuke response was a lie due to conflicting emotions in the trying to kill each other momentum (or as SasuSaku has called it, Love). The reaction of Sakura after the fact is not one of remorse, she smiles at Naruto and has the ability to show her face around him, they're still connected.

If the lesson is to look underneath the underneath that was Sakura's problem with Naruto and Sasuke. It's up to her to truly realize it and Naruto to admit it (And for Kishi to execute it), which is why we need to revisit the bench scene.

Edited by Insurrection, 05 July 2010 - 05:26 AM.


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Posted 05 July 2010 - 05:44 AM

@Insurrection--


I agree that the apology stemmed mostly from guilt because she was trying to get away with not giving Naruto the whole truth--my question came up because a friend of mine believes that her apologizing points to the confession really showing that while she may care for Naruto a great deal, she doesn't actually love him romantically the way she tried to convince him she does.

The logic my friend follows is that if the confession of love had been genuine (and not just a way to take Naruto's focus away from Sasuke) then Sakura would have felt no reason to apologize.

As for Sakura lying about her feelings for Sasuke... I believe she's still figuring them out. She obviously has nowhere near the same extent of romantic feeling as she did in Part 1, but I believe right now she's trying to work past any lingering affection she has for him as a friend/teammate. Her inability to kill him only shows us that she can't just yet. *shrug*

(If my replies aren't very coherent, I apologize in advance; I'm very tired XD )

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 06:33 AM

@Insurrection--im getting tired of saying this kish sai said sakura loves narutos KISH INTERVIEW, SAI IS RIGHT IN THE MANGA IF YOU PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT ITS THERE READ IT! SAI SAID SHE HAS MOVED FROM SASUKE TO YOU EVERYTHING WAS FOR NARUTO THAN HE SAYS AND SHURLY YOU KNOW THAT. NARUTOS IMIGE OF TEAM SEVON SHATERS.

the reason sakura could not kill sasuke was of the team mate bond here look kaka,kakashe couldn't kill sasuke nether naruto they must love him too infact sakura got closer to killing sasuke then they did.
as for the apology how would you feel killing a team mate or kill a person naruto calls a brother or sakuras old crush memorys.
kish main focus is team mate bond in the manga. sakura would be OOC any other way.Sai reinforced what Sakura said- she has moved on from Sasuke and is in love with Naruto now, and all her thoughts were of Naruto. A Japanese person one of our forum people asked also looked at the pages and said Sai was referencing Sakura's PAST feelings for Sasuke as why she cared so muc

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE (Kushina @ Jul 5 2010, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Insurrection--


I agree that the apology stemmed mostly from guilt because she was trying to get away with not giving Naruto the whole truth--my question came up because a friend of mine believes that her apologizing points to the confession really showing that while she may care for Naruto a great deal, she doesn't actually love him romantically the way she tried to convince him she does.

The logic my friend follows is that if the confession of love had been genuine (and not just a way to take Naruto's focus away from Sasuke) then Sakura would have felt no reason to apologize.

As for Sakura lying about her feelings for Sasuke... I believe she's still figuring them out. She obviously has nowhere near the same extent of romantic feeling as she did in Part 1, but I believe right now she's trying to work past any lingering affection she has for him as a friend/teammate. Her inability to kill him only shows us that she can't just yet. *shrug*

(If my replies aren't very coherent, I apologize in advance; I'm very tired XD )


I think she's sorting through them too, that was my point, the guilt though is coming from a realization of Naruto's trials that Sakura is bearing witness too. She's had feelings since the beginning, but has not yet reached the point to where let's just say canon.

Sakura would not have mentioned love witout some feelings, I believe she's sorry for going behind his back or believing she has given the perception that he could not believe in her.

You have made a good point, but the Sasuke she sees does not exist in him, the person she seeks to love is in Naruto, it's the underneath. We've known that, it's the truth of the bench scene, she sees Sasuke but what's really there in the form she seeks is Naruto. She could also be apologizing in advance for betraying his oath to her.

QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jul 5 2010, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Insurrection--im getting tired of saying this kish sai said sakura loves narutos KISH INTERVIEW, SAI IS RIGHT IN THE MANGA IF YOU PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT ITS THERE READ IT! SAI SAID SHE HAS MOVED FROM SASUKE TO YOU EVERYTHING WAS FOR NARUTO THAN HE SAYS AND SHURLY YOU KNOW THAT. NARUTOS IMIGE OF TEAM SEVON SHATERS.

the reason sakura could not kill sasuke was of the team mate bond here look kaka,kakashe couldn't kill sasuke nether naruto they must love him too infact sakura got closer to killing sasuke then they did.

as for the apology how would you feel killing a team mate or kill a person naruto calls a brother or sakuras old crush memorys.
kish main focus is team mate bond in the manga. sakura would be OOC any other way.


Alright Goku listen up I'm only going to rant/confess (Rantfess) this once.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DAMN REAL INTERVIEW. I'm Tired of People saying "Oh Kishi really said this" Yeah That's Great How Do I know it's really true? Frankly I'm tired of hearing about it WITHOUT SEEING IT FOR MYSELF!! How would you feel if someone had questions and then some keeps saying OH THAT'S WRONG or HE SAID THIS. And you ask when and where and the response was HE MEANT THIS. I'm sick of hearing about the Interview I can't see, I haven't been able to look it up or have had the time to look it up. Hearing you, Graven(not trying to single you out, but you seem to know it pretty well) and others talk about it keeps other members out of the loop who DON'T KNOW. I'm actually surprised that no one has decided to make it easier and more benneficial for the rest of us to know. Maybe I just haven't paid attention and am making myself look like a total fool but it's not fair for others to tell people what to think without seeing it for themselves! So to anyone there who HAS SEEN IT post a link, make a spoiler or a thread that We Can Read the Whole thing instead being told 'well it says this'! Because when ahmed is asking "Where does Kishi say this?" I can relate to that, it's confusing if you don't know what others are talking about! And if it's in another language you can read make sure others that can't can read it too.

WOW! I appear to be angry!

Edit: If you think I'm a jerk or something I'm sorry, but I know I've mentioned this before but I still haven't been able to read it since and get's annoying hearing others hold it over or summarize it, I've only been able to get bit by bit summaries so the whole thing would help me greatly and I'll never mention this again. I've been unable to read it, so please someone just post a link or something.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 07:41 AM

well for my own opinion. the apology was for the fact that she wa splanning on killing Sasuke, the very bond Naruto had shed tears blood and sweat for, for so long.

She ahd put it into her mind that her heart would be broken by killiung Sasuke to Protect Naruto because Naruto would then -- in her thought process-- hate her and leave her alone>

the apology was directed at Naruto in the context of aologizing for killing his best friend and brother and breaking his heart in that fashion.
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jul 5 2010, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well for my own opinion. the apology was for the fact that she wa splanning on killing Sasuke, the very bond Naruto had shed tears blood and sweat for, for so long.

She ahd put it into her mind that her heart would be broken by killiung Sasuke to Protect Naruto because Naruto would then -- in her thought process-- hate her and leave her alone>

the apology was directed at Naruto in the context of aologizing for killing his best friend and brother and breaking his heart in that fashion.

i completely agree with you ..... and i dont have one doubt on that( she appolgy for him becaus she intend to kill sasuke)because after he apologize she asked kiba to serch for sasuke

i am sure sakura is in love with naruto

and i want to ask about onther somthing :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/469/14/
in that page: the faces of alll (yamato,kakshi,.......) seems to be angry or sad and not happy .....why????
i think the faces was should be seems to be happy for naruto and sakura .. but this is not what happened

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 10:01 AM

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How do you interpret Sakura's apology to Naruto after her "confession"?


IMO, she was apologising because she was going to kill Sasuke.

Another interpretation is she was sorry because she had been unable lift his burden off him. She had intended lifting the promise, giving him what his heart longed for, stopping him from keeping chasing after Sasuke (since it was only hurting him), bringing him back to the village where he would be safe, and easing his heartache... and she had failed.

Or maybe she didn't fail after all, since Naruto understood Team 7 was nothing but a past remember would never return, and after Sasuke nearly slew her, Naruto decided not chasing him anymore.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 10:27 AM

@Insurrection--

Ahh, I hadn't really considered that: "believing she has given the perception that he could not believe in her". I completely forgot that Sai even mentions she worried about/anticipated her actions making Naruto hate her... Glad you caught it =]

@catsi--

That's sort of the angle I'd originally perceived, though somehow I remained unsure given my uncertainty of her "confession" being honest; I'm more inclined to believe the geniality of it though now.

@Jenskott--

Ooh, good points! She may have apologized because at the time she believed she'd been unable to solve Naruto's problem/relieve his worries.

I remain ambiguous and open about the actual reason, though I'm starting to lean towards it being a giant combination of all of these ideas.

@ahmed--

Well...they probably question how sincere Sakura is, just like Naruto did. Kakashi saw through her motives and understood that she intended to kill Sasuke herself, right? This was probably the beginning of that assumption.

Sai's watching to understand Sakura's motives, as well as gauge Naruto's reaction.

Kiba's impatient about the situation anyways, as he was one of the ones that quickly voted for Sasuke to be killed by the rookie group. Also, he probably had expected Sakura to tell Naruto about it, rather than turn it into a confession of her feelings.

Lee....I think he still had some feelings for Sakura, right? Even if it was a small crush, something like this is probably a shock. Plus he also thought she was coming to tell Naruto about Sasuke being killed by everyone else.

And Yamato's probably just as skeptical as Kakashi. You notice that after Sakura repeats her "I love you", Yamato has a look of shock, and even asks, "What's going on....?".

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Jul 5 2010, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IMO, she was apologising because she was going to kill Sasuke.

Another interpretation is she was sorry because she had been unable lift his burden off him. She had intended lifting the promise, giving him what his heart longed for, stopping him from keeping chasing after Sasuke (since it was only hurting him), bringing him back to the village where he would be safe, and easing his heartache... and she had failed.

Or maybe she didn't fail after all, since Naruto understood Team 7 was nothing but a past remember would never return, and after Sasuke nearly slew her, Naruto decided not chasing him anymore.


Yes to all this, at least she succeeded by herself in breaking the POAL as far as it concerns Naruto repressing his feelings for her. Naruto's more honest and expressive with Sakura than he has been the whole of part 2 from the time he rescues her from Sasuke onward.

And as awkward as it was, with Sai's help, it made Naruto realize he wasn't seeing the way Sakura has grown and changed into someone who cares deeply for him, and seeing he had been carrying around an overly rosy image of Sasuke in his head. It allowed him to finally get a glimpse of the real Sasuke and realize attempting to change Sasuke back by chasing after him was a pointless exercise. Those few words he shared with Sasuke after he realized that- shook Sasuke more than anything he's said to him since the end of part 1, it was enough to bring Sasuke back from absolute murderous insanity to a darker shadow of his part 1 self.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE (Kushina @ Jul 4 2010, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....seems this topic's been dead for a few days.

Mmmk, here's a question then:

How do you interpret Sakura's apology to Naruto after her "confession"?
After saying that she'll return to the village, she turns away from Naruto and silently apologizes to Naruto with a sad/pained expression on her face.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/470/06/

I've heard of three different ways this can be taken:

1. Sakura's apologizing for trying to take him back with her by playing on his feelings for her. She feels guilty because he's called her out on it.
2. She's apologizing for not telling Naruto about everyone planning to kill Sasuke themselves, and because she chose to try and bring their feelings into the situation.
3. She's apologizing in advance because she's about to go after Sasuke herself, despite knowing that Naruto wouldn't want her to.

I have my own thoughts on what it could mean, but I wanna hear others' first =]


I will go with number 2 knowing how much Sasuke means to Naruto she didn't wanted to hurt his feelings. She knew he will be devastated if he finds out that everyone has chosen to kill Sasuke it shows how well she knows him.

As for her confession I believe she was being honest let's looks at this from a realistic point of view. There was NO NEED for Sakura to tell Naruto she loves him in order to release him from the POTL she could have just tell him to forget about the promise and stop chasing Sasuke, although Naruto will be surprise he will tell her that he wants to bring Sasuke back to Konoha not just for the promise but for himself too. There we go Sakura will release him from the promise but we all know that he was still going to chase over him, so you see there was no need for her to confess her feelings to him.

Why I strongly believe Sakura was telling the truth in her confession???

Back at 459 Sakura told herself that she's the one who has caused Naruto the most pain and she DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE! Now woudn't lying to Naruto that she loves him just to stop him from chasing Sasuke be making another mistake because she will be using his feelings???

Not to mention Kishi has shown in the manga that she was being honest in her confession with what she told herself in 459, with what she said back at 470 (she's the only one that knows what she's thinking or feeling depending on the trasnlation), what Sai said at 474 that everything he said about Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are in PAST tense. In addition that Kishi in the inerview said that he thought he was making" an honest and surpriringly determined girl".

If the other fandoms want to continue denying and telling themselves otherwise then it's their problem.

Think about it Sakura did lie to Naruto (about the decision to kill Sasuke) she did kept the truth from him but I believe she covered it up with telling him another truth (her confession).

Her confession was a bonus that she felt like getting it off from her chest because she thought Naruto will hate her for taking the decision in killing Sasuke (she needed to tell him how she feels before he hates her according to her).

While she confesses to Naruto at the same time she will:

1. Release him from the POTL.
2. She will convince him to return to Konoha with her protecting him from Sasuke, allowing her to continue with her resolve to kill Sasuke.
3. She will kill Sasuke and Naruto will hate her making it as her punishment for giving him the burden of carrying the POTL.

By doing all of this Sakura is basically killing two birds with one stone with her confession as a bonus any questions? kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 07:32 AM

Still like we've mentioned, I think Sakura is still sorting out her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke, I won't lie, I still think Sakura has some feelings for Sasuke, but more than anything they're still based on what happened at the bench scene in chapter three and once Naruto finally lets out the truth, I'm sure Sakura will then realize her true feelings for Naruto.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 06:26 PM

i read on a onther forum: a reporting about naruto and the writer wrote about naruto 's love life (naruto have a crush on sakura and not love and he don't want to be with her......he want only to make her happy....and from naruto respond to sakura confession we can know that.....and he will see her all the time that she loves sasuke)
is that really right?????........ i neeed a reply for that.........this really doubt me in naruto's feelings

and i want to ask waht kishi wrote in the databook 3 about sakura's feeling towards sasuke and naruto's feeling towards sakura.(a crush or love)""i wish if you have a picture for it or a site of that data book""

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 07:39 PM

resent manga fact naruto loves sakura but he did think she would only love sasuke witch was proven false by manga -writer sakura is over sasuke but has memorys of her crush like said above chapter 3

dont look at everything at face value ahmed ok xD

as for data books the newest ones show sakura is over sasuke but like i said manga speaks more then data books

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