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[JILLNYN]

I've been reading pages and pages and just wondering ...

is not very ironic escape From other forums by paring wars and believe that I'm safer in this NS forum and then find NS fan wars?

NS fans Anti-manga  pro-disappointment  VS NS fans anti-disappointment, pro-manga

at times I think these wars hurt more than  paring wars


Either way I'm on the side that Sakura had to ask about Sasuke still remains teammate and would rather OOC if she did not ask, but the detail that makes it clearer sense of this is that her face shows more curious fact that paring material is so random question that immediately after changed the question: Kaguya change dimension?,  this strategy will work? Sakura's face shows no desesperation or tears ...

that further demonstrates her curiosity and worry for the situation.

Edited by JILLNYN, 27 June 2014 - 05:30 AM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I've been reading pages and pages and just wondering ...

is not very ironic escape From other forums by paring wars and believe that I'm safer in this NS forum and then find NS fan wars?

NS fans Anti-manga  pro-disappointment  VS NS fans anti-disappointment, pro-manga

at times I think these wars hurt more than  paring wars


Either way I'm on the side that Sakura had to ask about Sasuke still remains teammate and would rather OOC if she did not ask, but the detail that makes it clearer sense of this is that her face shows more curious fact that paring material is so random question that immediately after changed the question: Kaguya change dimension?,  this strategy will work? Sakura's face shows no desesperation or tears ...

that further demonstrates her curiosity and worry for the situation.

Two types of people in the NS fandom my friend. Two types; The first type is the type that accepts Sakura will always worry for Sasuke ( no accounting for sense...) and doesn't panic whenever Sakura brings him up and the second type...The second type freaks out because anytime Sakura mentions Sasuke it MUST mean that she wants to be his waifu.   

I'm obviously the first and so are you. 

[Shadow Wolf]

Let's just drop that topic already, alrighty? I think everyone chose what to believe in so I see no reason to trouble ourselves trying to change each other's opinion on it. "To each thine own Watson".

Anyway, speaking a bit about the chapter, I'm actually still trying to figure out how Kaguya's dimension shift works. Think I could ask you guys for some feedback on it? After all, not only did the scenery changed to ice, but she pulled Sasuke to another dimension or to another place using her hand.

Edited by Shadow Wolf, 27 June 2014 - 06:21 AM.

[Jenskott]

 

Yea.. old Disney movies like Tarzan and Hercules were the best!!

Now after the success Avatar.. Directors think that the 3D style makes up for the bad movie story... 

 

Thank you for making me feeling old. I was in college when those movies premiered.   Old Disney movies are, to me, Bambie or The Jungle Book (when I was a little kid my father took my sister and me to the theater to watch them).

 

I also believe those old movies are better than Disney's current offerings. Unfortunately I am not fond of Disney movies made in the nineties because The Lion King (a. k. a. let's rip Simba the White Lion off, pretend it is our original idea or it was inspired by Hamlet and make a ton of money from it) and later Atlantis (and its characters suspiciously similar to the main characters of Fushigi no Umi no Nadia) soured me on Disney for a loooooong time. I am still sour about it, but now I appreciate Disney for what it was, at least.

 

Anyway Disney is very old and has gone through good and bad ages. Actually they were going through a dry spell until they made The Little Mermaid. Sooner or later they will make great movies again, I am sure of it.

 

I find quite funny that somehow this thread has become about Disney movies and Michael Bay destroying the childhood memories of those who grew up in the eighties. Ironically, a friend of mine who is a bigger fan of Transformers than I am pretty like the movies.

 

Oh, and yes. Grimlock. More Grimlock is always a good thing.

[tekopi]

Let's just drop that topic already, alrighty? I think everyone chose what to believe in so I see no reason to trouble ourselves trying to change each other's opinion on it. "To each thine own Watson".

Anyway, speaking a bit about the chapter, I'm actually still trying to figure out how Kaguya's dimension shift works. Think I could ask you guys for some feedback on it? After all, not only did the scenery changed to ice, but she pulled Sasuke to another dimension or to another place using her hand.

Reading back the manga carefully, I think the hint lies here:

Hint

 

Carefully analyze her third eye on the three bottom panels. After this, the three of them are entrapped inside ice and frozen in place on the next page.

Edited by tekopi, 27 June 2014 - 08:25 AM.

[only Naruto]

Reading back the manga carefully, I think the hint lies here:

Hint

 

Carefully analyze her third eye on the three bottom panels. After this, the three of them are entrapped inside ice and frozen in place on the next page.

hmm ok. but are these places / dimensions  real or its  a really powerful genjutsu ? and i can see that naruto and sasuke trying to touch her to make the seal which means that is almost impossible for them now .they need help .they cant do it alone thats why sakura .kakashi .and obito are there.

[soraandven]

in a way sakura did help naruto remember this 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Let's just drop that topic already, alrighty? I think everyone chose what to believe in so I see no reason to trouble ourselves trying to change each other's opinion on it. "To each thine own Watson".

Anyway, speaking a bit about the chapter, I'm actually still trying to figure out how Kaguya's dimension shift works. Think I could ask you guys for some feedback on it? After all, not only did the scenery changed to ice, but she pulled Sasuke to another dimension or to another place using her hand.

It is confusing. At first, I thought she changed the weather, but she moved all of them to a new place. That's why the landscape has changed, rather than everything remain the same position. If that wasn't convincing, the last page with Sasuke going to the desert confirms it. So the main "what the" of the chapter is how can she change dimensions as there must be a way to prevent her doing so. Again, we see another castle in that dimension, so what if there's another one for Sasuke's location. At first, I thought she can change the climate. Then, I thought she can change the environment. Now, it's confirmed that she has gone to different dimensions. What is the connection?

[Chatte]

Kaguya made that move with the help of her third eye. It's not a genjutsu, it's a real land, that's the trickery. However, if you see, it is all connected to her third eye, which is know for genjutsu because it's a sharingan, but the changes she mades via that genjutsu are real. And that's the trickery and that's why Kishi kept Kakashi and Sakura around (dunno exactly why Obito, maybe bc of his teleportation ability) becase it is a "genjutsu based" move, Kakashi being the one who discovered Sakura's genjutsu potential, Sakura being with the potential, only that it's the reverse, she dispels genjutsu, turns it into reality (ding, ding!*) and the matter at hands is that, that genjutsu based move is actually a real thing. We just don't know what's the mystery behind it.

So, now, we have the castles which are shown to us at every each change of landscape, which is connected somehow, we have Sakura, the one pointing towards the castle in the cover, we have Kakashi, like he was already waiting to go to the castle, hence he's the one stating the obvious now, collecting the data, we have Sasuke who in the cover is like far away and looks at his bow which in the manga we are shown that he was transported into a new dimension and then we have Naruto and Sakura... Sakura the one pointing towards the castle, like I said, knowing like there's something in that castle they need to take care of meaning, she will be involved in a pivotal role in this whole Kaguya matter given she has been asking about her ever since Kaguya was brought in the manga, like more into it (the Madara case) and Naruto, who is one of the pieces to that castle's trip (idk exactly how to say it).

Kishi gave us a hint in that cover and the manga is atm exactly in the situation of that cover: Kakashi and Sakura are ready to go to that castle (so to speak), Naruto knows he's on his own but oh well, he's around, like kinda he remained now in the manga, Sasuke is further away from them all admiring his bow, like he is in the manga now, apart from them and we have those castles, which definitely mean something, cause we've seen them whenever the landscape changes... And the trick is in Kaguya's third eye "power"(?) which is/would be a genjutsu based move, only that it's a "real" move, know what I mean?
And like in the cover, the ones interested of that castle, are none than Sakura and Kakashi... and lately we've seen them analyzing a lot the situation (LOL! @ Sasuke, he's gonna have his ass saved by Kakashi and Sakura, I am sure of it, you know Sasuke, the guys who you called pretty much useless because even if they analyze, they can't do nothing; oh well, guess what, you're gonna get a surprise and have your ass saved by these "useless" people with guess what... their analyzing prowess!) which means we're in for a big deal.

The only unknown problem here, the X is in Kaguya's third eye and those castles and their change of environment - and that's where Kakashi and Sakura will help. They'll find out what about these changes, whose jutsu is this - to quote a genius in life. :)

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, Sakura definitely don't see this something as simple as just teleportation. While it is a new landscape, what is it that these connects to all others. It doesn't seem coincidence. Imagine when Hokages show up, they all there looking at them in one place frozen. If by that, that means they are in genjutsu, but they can die. Sounds like Nightmare in Elm Street.

 

I do think the next chapter will get clearer as the next chapter may not be more fighting or rather, may not focus the usual Naruto/Sasuke, now that Sasuke is out of the picture. This could be the right time for anything else, including Hokages' arrival. Of course, Sasuke could just come back right now, but we have to see. I just wonder if Kaguya is just going to fight one or she will do something to fight both at the same time, at the different dimensions.

[Chatte]

Well, Sakura definitely don't see this something as simple as just teleportation. While it is a new landscape, what is it that these connects to all others. It doesn't seem coincidence. Imagine when Hokages show up, they all there looking at them in one place frozen. If by that, that means they are in genjutsu, but they can die. Sounds like Nightmare in Elm Street.

 

I do think the next chapter will get clearer as the next chapter may not be more fighting or rather, may not focus the usual Naruto/Sasuke, now that Sasuke is out of the picture. This could be the right time for anything else, including Hokages' arrival. Of course, Sasuke could just come back right now, but we have to see. I just wonder if Kaguya is just going to fight one or she will do something to fight both at the same time, at the different dimensions.

Sasuke isn't coming back soon. Kishi didn't send him there for nothing. And Kaguya might fight them same at both time or one by one cause maybe this is why she sent one of them away.

And yeah, everything connects, that's the deal, but you just can't tell what?...

[Otaru]

Kaguya made that move with the help of her third eye. It's not a genjutsu, it's a real land, that's the trickery. However, if you see, it is all connected to her third eye, which is know for genjutsu because it's a sharingan, but the changes she mades via that genjutsu are real. And that's the trickery and that's why Kishi kept Kakashi and Sakura around (dunno exactly why Obito, maybe bc of his teleportation ability) becase it is a "genjutsu based" move, Kakashi being the one who discovered Sakura's genjutsu potential, Sakura being with the potential, only that it's the reverse, she dispels genjutsu, turns it into reality (ding, ding!*) and the matter at hands is that, that genjutsu based move is actually a real thing. We just don't know what's the mystery behind it.

So, now, we have the castles which are shown to us at every each change of landscape, which is connected somehow, we have Sakura, the one pointing towards the castle in the cover, we have Kakashi, like he was already waiting to go to the castle, hence he's the one stating the obvious now, collecting the data, we have Sasuke who in the cover is like far away and looks at his bow which in the manga we are shown that he was transported into a new dimension and then we have Naruto and Sakura... Sakura the one pointing towards the castle, like I said, knowing like there's something in that castle they need to take care of meaning, she will be involved in a pivotal role in this whole Kaguya matter given she has been asking about her ever since Kaguya was brought in the manga, like more into it (the Madara case) and Naruto, who is one of the pieces to that castle's trip (idk exactly how to say it).

Kishi gave us a hint in that cover and the manga is atm exactly in the situation of that cover: Kakashi and Sakura are ready to go to that castle (so to speak), Naruto knows he's on his own but oh well, he's around, like kinda he remained now in the manga, Sasuke is further away from them all admiring his bow, like he is in the manga now, apart from them and we have those castles, which definitely mean something, cause we've seen them whenever the landscape changes... And the trick is in Kaguya's third eye "power"(?) which is/would be a genjutsu based move, only that it's a "real" move, know what I mean?
And like in the cover, the ones interested of that castle, are none than Sakura and Kakashi... and lately we've seen them analyzing a lot the situation (LOL! @ Sasuke, he's gonna have his ass saved by Kakashi and Sakura, I am sure of it, you know Sasuke, the guys who you called pretty much useless because even if they analyze, they can't do nothing; oh well, guess what, you're gonna get a surprise and have your ass saved by these "useless" people with guess what... their analyzing prowess!) which means we're in for a big deal.

The only unknown problem here, the X is in Kaguya's third eye and those castles and their change of environment - and that's where Kakashi and Sakura will help. They'll find out what about these changes, whose jutsu is this - to quote a genius in life. :)

 

Hey maybe it's because she's using the Sharinnegan.

Maybe she's creating genjutsu with Sharingan, and make it real with Rinnegan.

[Chatte]

 

Hey maybe it's because she's using the Sharinnegan.

Maybe she's creating genjutsu with Sharingan, and make it real with Rinnegan.

OMG, that's a really good point... It's just... idk, we've seen the other Rinnegan that's dunno, different than this.. and idk what to say.... i mean, the red-tomoe rinnegan seems to be different than the usual one?! idk exactly, but it could be a possibility... and it all might be, the answer i mean, from chakra.. i mean, rinnegan if you look at it, it's a patter of circular shapes...we've seen the circle kinda means chakra, sakura is known for her know-it-all in terms of chakra... gah, idk, maybe I am connecting it everything again with sakura and might not be.. idk.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sasuke isn't coming back soon. Kishi didn't send him there for nothing. And Kaguya might fight them same at both time or one by one cause maybe this is why she sent one of them away.
And yeah, everything connects, that's the deal, but you just can't tell what?...

Good point. I'm just wondering if Kaguya will do like "first you, then him" or will she do something to take care of Sasuke at the same time with Naruto? The chapter ended once Sasuke went to the desert, so it didn't give us anything like Naruto going "kitten!" or anything that says "This is the worst case scenario." If this chapter is the third chapter of the volume, then the next chapter should be the last to setup for the theme to go through. Usually after the fourth, things pick up really quick, so I expect nothing different. Plus the timing does say otherwise with explanation out of the way as well as character developments and bring the mystery of her. Now, we got those out of the way, we can start speeding up.

You know, Kakashi is like the data collector, but can't find the answer or rather the correct one. He was the one that said Tobi at the time is faster than Minato. While technically true, the idea behind it is a different story. Sakura usually brings out the theory or the right answer. She was the one that brought up that Tobi's trick is more of body transferring to the other universe more so than speed. Get it? So if anything, I can see Kakashi keeps telling us the data information but seems like he can't figure it out, so Sakura could answer it.

Well a week from now, things could escalate into moments we are waiting for. Like I said, we already covered the ones that needed to be said, so now, what's next? Next week.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 June 2014 - 11:28 AM.

[Otaru]

OMG, that's a really good point... It's just... idk, we've seen the other Rinnegan that's dunno, different than this.. and idk what to say.... i mean, the red-tomoe rinnegan seems to be different than the usual one?! idk exactly, but it could be a possibility... and it all might be, the answer i mean, from chakra.. i mean, rinnegan if you look at it, it's a patter of circular shapes...we've seen the circle kinda means chakra, sakura is known for her know-it-all in terms of chakra... gah, idk, maybe I am connecting it everything again with sakura and might not be.. idk.

 

Well I don't know why, I thought about it while reading your post LOL

 

Her third eye is composed of a Sharingan and a Rinnegan.

Technically, it's not really the case, because the Sharinnegan is the source or the Sharingan and the Rinnegan, and the Sharinnegan must be something on his own, but still, we now the Sharingan, and we know the Rinnegan, so we could deduce what's the power of her third eye.

Sharingan can create fake world, genjutsu, and Rinnegan can revive people, so it can makes things real, put life into things.

 

So, you see, it could be possible that the Rinnegan part of her third eye is putting life into her genjutsu.

 

But it's also possible all those worlds are the worlds where elements are created, as I said before, and that she's just taking them there.

Edited by Otaru, 27 June 2014 - 12:27 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It makes you think that Sakura should be there in front of her to get a better picture.

[Otaru]

I hope Kishi will make Sakura understand the truth as I think he wants to do.

I hope he has not put her and Kakashi here just to show the difference between Naruto and Sasuke.

[Chatte]

Good point. I'm just wondering if Kaguya will do like "first you, then him" or will she do something to take care of Sasuke at the same time with Naruto? The chapter ended once Sasuke went to the desert, so it didn't give us anything like Naruto going "kitten!" or anything that says "This is the worst case scenario." If this chapter is the third chapter of the volume, then the next chapter should be the last to setup for the theme to go through. Usually after the fourth, things pick up really quick, so I expect nothing different. Plus the timing does say otherwise with explanation out of the way as well as character developments and bring the mystery of her. Now, we got those out of the way, we can start speeding up.

You know, Kakashi is like the data collector, but can't find the answer or rather the correct one. He was the one that said Tobi at the time is faster than Minato. While technically true, the idea behind it is a different story. Sakura usually brings out the theory or the right answer. She was the one that brought up that Tobi's trick is more of body transferring to the other universe more so than speed. Get it? So if anything, I can see Kakashi keeps telling us the data information but seems like he can't figure it out, so Sakura could answer it.

Well a week from now, things could escalate into moments we are waiting for. Like I said, we already covered the ones that needed to be said, so now, what's next? Next week.

@thebolded: eeeexactly! we just need to see how he's gonna execute it now...

 

 

 

Well I don't know why, I thought about it while reading your post LOL

 

Her third eye is composed of a Sharingan and a Rinnegan.

Technically, it's not really the case, because the Sharinnegan is the source or the Sharingan and the Rinnegan, and the Sharinnegan must me something on his own, but still, we now the Sharingan, and we know the Rinnegan, so we could deduce what's the power of her third eye.

Sharingan can create fake world, genjutsu, and Rinnegan can revive people, so it can makes things real, put life into things.

 

So, you see, it could be possible that the Rinnegan part of her third eye is putting life into her genjutsu.

 

But it's also possible all those worlds are the worlds where elements are created, as I said before, and that she's just taking them there.

Wow, so this crazy idea just went through my mind... I mean, you're kinda right haha.

So what caught my attention was the part of putting life into her genjutsu... It's like 2 things that Sakura has mastery off - life, so to speak, via her medical knowledge and jutsu and so on and genjutsu, only it's connected to reality, same as Sakura's skills... dunno exactly how to say it.

But my God, these things so link to Sakura is so many ways... I am wondering if it's my brain going crazy with these connections or they actually are like that...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Funny how these was supposed to be the topic since Wednesday. Anyway, I don't know what's exactly next, though I am looking forward to it more so than before, things are going to pick up. It was expected that it will go slow at first since we were just introduced Kaguya into the picture. It's probably why I don't brag so much though I did have that test to worry about first and foremost. Nevertheless, count me in for looking forward to next week.

[Chatte]

The thing is Kishi is a bastard, LOL! I mean, he screws up on a side but on the other side, he just has this way to keep you in because he makes scenarios the way that... even if you're bored and angry at the manga, he does them such a way that you still wanna see what's gonna happen next, know what I mean? That dull how he does them, they keep pulling you in, lol.