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[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah it will be boring.
 
If we're going to see NH in the dream world it would be an interesting loophole for Kishimoto. The NH fanbase yelled at him for years to put Naruto and Hinata together. And in the end he does it, but not the way they want it. It will be here is NH canon in the dreamworld however in the real world it's Naruto and Sakura.

I did say that the dreamworld could be a way from Kishi to tell everyone to stfu.

[Gojira]

I agree with you here. Kakashi stated it clearly. Everyone, Kakashi, Yamato, hell even Sai can see that she loves Naruto. Everyone can see that she is out of Sasuke BUT I'll ask the same question which I asked yesterday, 'Does Sakura realise this?'

I think after the rejection she was convinced Sasuke just wasn't interested in her at all.

When part 2 came around and she matured she more or less just wanted to bring him back for Naruto and Team 7's sake. Also the way Kakashi worded made it seem like she was aware of this herself.

[narusaku256]

I think after the rejection she was convinced Sasuke just wasn't interested in her at all.

When part 2 came around and she matured she more or less just wanted to bring him back for Naruto and Team 7's sake. Also the way Kakashi worded made it seem like she was aware of this herself.

Okay, so this is indeed a plausible answer to my question. You stated that she more or less knew that Sasuke just wasn't interested in her and didn't care for her after rejection or even better scene, after he tried to murder her two times in Kage Summit Arc. So why the sudden, 'Sasuke kun doesn't seem to care about me' in the last to last or whatever chapter, when this revelation was apparent to her way back. She even said, "You don't seem to care for me" when she confessed to Sasuke in part 1 while he was leaving the village. It really doesn't go down well with me that it was addressed to team 7 in general. Kakashi was 100% right and there is not even a hint of doubt about it. But her latest revelation seems to portray that she is not aware of that herself. Its just that, this scene pricks me too much and it doesn't seem like it was referanced to the team, atleast to me.

Edited by narusaku256, 23 May 2014 - 05:22 PM.

[Gojira]

Okay, so this is indeed a plausible answer to my question. You stated that she more or less knew that Sasuke just wasn't interested in her and didn't care for her after rejection or even better scene, after he tried to murder her two times in Kage Summit Arc. So why the sudden, 'Sasuke kun doesn't seem to care about me' in the last to last or whatever chapter, when this revelation was apparent to her way back. She even said, "You don't seem to care for me" when she confessed to Sasuke in part 1 while he was leaving the village. It really doesn't go down well with me that it was addressed to team 7 in general. Kakashi was 100% right and there is not even a hint of doubt about it. But her latest revelation seems to portray that she is not aware of that herself. Its just that, this scene pricks me too much and it doesn't seem like it was referanced to the team, atleast to me.

I know that was my problem with it as well that's why I think naruto or Kakashi should have been the one to think that line. With Sakura it made it seem like she cared more about whether or not Sasuke cared about her well being more than Naruto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I just thought of something:

We're not asking for raw! Sweet salvation!!!

[narusaku256]

I know that was my problem with it as well that's why I think naruto or Kakashi should have been the one to think that line. With Sakura it made it seem like she cared more about whether or not Sasuke cared about her well being more than Naruto.

Yeah, exactly! But again it comes down to the fact that Naruto and Sasuke already know it. To me that scene wasn't really necessary or was it?

@4Life Lol, but probably they won't make much of a difference, I guess

Edited by narusaku256, 23 May 2014 - 07:05 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

At least ramen, Rikudou, Megi, and Chinese letters (sorry, what is translated to) can rest.

[Gojira]

Yeah, exactly! But again it comes down to the fact that Naruto and Sasuke already know it. To me that scene wasn't really necessary or was it?

It wasn't and Kishi knows it, its just to further establish that Sasuke is still not a good guy.

[narusaku256]

It wasn't and Kishi knows it, its just to further establish that Sasuke is still not a good guy.

If the idea was to re-inforce this, why Sakura of all? Naruto or Kakashi could easily state ofcourse in their minds, "Sasuke....you still haven't change, have you?" or something similar to it. Imo, either that scene was totally unnecessary or it is a setting for something in future. Like @4Life likes to state, we have to wait and we will get our answers XD.

@4Life Yeah. They had a hard time after 676 XD

[thiagoSPTN]

Kishi could make NH canon in the genjutsu, so NS could happen in the real universe, satisfying both of the fandom. I can even see Kishi trolling in the future: 

 

Interviewer: So we did see in your manga that Naruto ended up with Sakura, but what happened to Hinata?

Kishimoto: Naruto and Hinata are together, in the dream world. 

[JILLNYN]

dreams of every one? sound like fillers in anime in pierrot style xD yeah I seen that coming in anime, but I hope not in manga.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, that does sound like something anime can take care of. Good, those animators can nosebleed Hinata all they want now.

[Otaru]

The reason why they were all still conscious is because the tree didn't fully wrapped them all in but we see that process finished with Hinata that's why i say that the dream started then , and that "Naruto kun" indicates that she started her dream not that she was asking for help from him because you have to remember that nobody knew about Naruto's current situation that he recovered and we have no evidence that they knew about that .

 

I think she's not calling for help.

She just thought about Naruto because she thought she was disappearing.
Maybe she's afraid that she will not be able to help anymore. I mean, it's like her character, she wants to help/protect Naruto.

 

Also, I really don't get why everyone is taking for granted that there will be several dreams, one for every character, and that those dreams would be about feelings.

 

I mean, it's Madara's dream that will be cast IMO.

I don't think we will have something like RtN at all.

 

I think it's really not likely that we will see HINATA's DREAM because we don't care about it. Right now, it'all about defeating Madara, and Kishi would make a mistake to switch on some character's dream. That would be so boring...

 

IMO, if there is a dream, then it will be only one, Madara's dream.

And it's not sure that we will see a single part of this dream.

I think that would be interesting though, but shortly because the fight needs to carry on right now.

Edited by Otaru, 23 May 2014 - 08:27 PM.

[FireFox]

If the idea was to re-inforce this, why Sakura of all? Naruto or Kakashi could easily state ofcourse in their minds, "Sasuke....you still haven't change, have you?" or something similar to it. Imo, either that scene was totally unnecessary or it is a setting for something in future. Like @4Life likes to state, we have to wait and we will get our answers XD.

@4Life Yeah. They had a hard time after 676 XD

Because Sakura is the observer of T7  the rational one the who see the things as they are and analyze them , Naruto also know that Sasuke is still not with them we have panels of him showing this but he's silent because he knows they need Sasuke for this .

 

Like i said many times you have to take 675 along with 676 together so you can be able to see the whole picture clearly and for what it really is . In 675 we have Kakashi after his flashback says to Sasuke that even if he doesn't want to tell them his current dream it doesn't change the fact that they were once upon a time T7 , then as Kakashi says this we see Naruto's and Sakura's hopeful faces desperately waiting for Sasuke's answer for him to acknowledge them as T7 but Sasuke doesn't do that he remains silent with the ending scene of Kakashi telling them if they remember what's the key element TEAMWORK then we move to 676 . Now in 676 we have Sakura thinking of T7 and getting ready for teamwork unleashing her seal so she can fight with them but that all ends bad with Sasuke not giving a damn about teamwork and is only focused on Madara . So it was basically Sasuke still not acknowledging them as T7. 

 

The focus of this scenes was T7 and TEAMWORK not Romance this is why @4life says wait and see and i agree with him on this patience is the key .

 

 

I think she's not calling for help.

She just thought about Naruto because she thought she was disappearing.

Maybe she's afraid that she will not be able to help anymore. I mean, it's like her character, she wants to help/protect Naruto.

 

Also, I really don't get why everyone is taking for granted that there will be several dreams, one for every character, and that those dreams would be about feelings.

 

I mean, it's Madara's dream that will be cast IMO.

I don't think we will have something like RtN at all.

 

I think it's really not likely that we will see HINATA's DREAM because we don't care about it. Right now, it'all about defeating Madara, and Kishi would make a mistake to switch on some character's dream. That would be so boring...

 

IMO, if there is a dream, then it will be only one, Madara's dream.

And it's not sure that we will see a single part of this dream.

I think that would be interesting though, but shortly because the fight needs to carry on right now.

 

Yes but for what purpose ? I think because she was starting her dream in the IT nobody had any idea of Naruto's situation so for help isn't for sure  but like i said time will tell everything .  

 

Also i didn't mean and don't think that her dream will be showed to us or any dream for that matter right now Kishi is not gonna waste time on that i was thinking more like the conclusion of Hinata from that dream maybe will be revealed latter in a flashback that's all .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 23 May 2014 - 08:50 PM.

[Otaru]

The way I see it, she was just sensing that she was disappearing and her last thought were about the most important thing in her life : naruto-kun

Maybe she was afraid of not seeing him again, something like that.

 

I think Kishi put Hinata here to make the link between the alliance and Naruto/team7

[luffyq1]

At least ramen, Rikudou, Megi, and Chinese letters (sorry, what is translated to) can rest.

lol Chinese letters.

[FireFox]

At least ramen, Rikudou, Megi, and Chinese letters (sorry, what is translated to) can rest.

Sakuya Hime i think ?

[Gojira]

If the idea was to re-inforce this, why Sakura of all? Naruto or Kakashi could easily state ofcourse in their minds, "Sasuke....you still haven't change, have you?" or something similar to it. Imo, either that scene was totally unnecessary or it is a setting for something in future. Like @4Life likes to state, we have to wait and we will get our answers XD.

Probably because Kishi regrets officially axing off SS for good so he gave them false hope to cling to.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sakuya Hime i think ?

Ah thank you. If true that is. XD

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Having Hinata come to this magical realization that she doesn't love Naruto in her dream world would make absolutely no sense to me. My faith in Hinata cannot go that far. I don't think there's any useful potential to kill NH in her dream world because Hinata's too obsessed with Naruto for her to even realize anything. For her, it's love. And she'll continue thinking it's love instead of acknowledgment even by the end of this manga.

 

It was more plausible for Sakura because she has signs of wavering and changing feelings for Sasuke while at same time making it seem like she's not consciously aware of it. Her realizing she didn't love Sasuke in the genjutsu was already built upon, but for Hinata she's as one-track in her love for Naruto as Karin is for Sasuke. It just wouldn't fit.