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#641 KnS

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 20 2013, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes he did, 540 shows this.
The troll is when we think she doesnt love Sasuke anymore, suddenly she still has feelings for him.

I think along the same lines as sushi.. I saw nothing "sudden" about Sakura's feelings for Sasuke in #540. Her confession to Naruto proved the depth of her emotional conflict. That was the point -- that she still had feelings for Sasuke, but she was willing to sacrifice them for Naruto. She made a conscious choice to try to move beyond Sasuke, but she obviously still had feelings for him.

+ Naruto didn't believe she was 100% over Sasuke.
+ Sai confirmed she wasn't 100% over Sasuke.
+ If I'm not mistaken, Kishimoto said in a post-confession interview that Naruto was "close" but Sakura still loved Sasuke.
+ Karin's compassion for Sakura's emotional pain in #484 implied they had a love for Sasuke in common.

If Sakura had convincingly said she loved Naruto and none of the above points had occurred, then #540 would have been a troll. But there was plenty of evidence that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were not resolved. So if readers got to #540 without any understanding that Sakura still had confused feelings for Sasuke, that's on them. It's not a result of Kishimoto trolling because there was no deception involved.

Sakura's confession marked a pivotal change in her focus and intentions, but not a clear and immediate resolution of her feelings for either guy. It laid the groundwork for her to truly move on from Sasuke to Naruto, and #540 was merely a reminder that she's not 100% there yet.


QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 20 2013, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well i think he's doing a bad job with Naruto, becasue i would surely drop shipping NS if he did that with Naruto, i dont see that on this way.
I dont see him making he has feelings for Hinata, or even to mislead them like he did with Sakura.
Naruto never had any kind of conflict but it's comepletely the opposite more and more he enforced Naruto's love even after the Pain's arc showed that it was really a big deal not just a kind of childish crush.

I can agree with this completely, though. Kishimoto has been consistent with Hinata's feelings for Naruto, but at the same time he has been very careful not to show any moment that can be construed as romantic feeling on Naruto's part. Not a single thought bubble, glance, nothing -- and that includes #615.

Meanwhile, Naruto's romantic feelings for Sakura have been consistent throughout the story, confirmed by at least one other character, and clearly reinforced multiple times.

A required element of trolling is intentional deception. I have seen no evidence that Kishimoto has intentionally deceived his audience with the pairings. Made readers wonder about the pairings? Yes. Deliberately deceived them on the details? No.


QUOTE (rocci @ May 20 2013, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question for you, are you afraid with sasuke coming?

Other than knowing I run the risk of wanting to HULKSMASH something at the sight of him? th_twitchsmile.gif

I assume you're asking because of his potential influence on NS...? No, I'm not afraid of his return. Even if there is more romantic confusion and angst ahead because of him, it's part of the deal. If NS is going to happen, we can't get there without Sasuke's return and whatever part he's going to play in the resolution.



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#642 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ May 20 2013, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@narusaku4life
Yes I agree, kishi need to stop this love triangle status quo, it hurt his characters and make us uneasy about this situation.

Well, understand that this is the first time that her love is being questioned, so now we just have to see if it's still the same or will she finally make the first move. When I say first move, I don't mean go to Naruto immediately. I mean letting it go the idea of SS. I hardly see a girl move to a new guy immediately, rather feeling doubt that there's love life for her. I always see a girl thinking there's no love and the main character will say that's not true, only to expose himself that he is interested. Anyway, slow and steady. First, drop the old feeling. Then next arc or later on, she can discover about Naruto. Will Kishi go this route? I don't know but I won't be surprise if it happens.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:26 PM

Let's be fair here... if Kishi had chosen one ship off the bat, that wouldn't have been much of a hero's tale now would it?

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:18 AM

I wish we got a Tuesday chapter, I can't wait another day. :|
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:59 AM

i found this sakura amv check it out we got about 1 day to go i hope minato interacts cuz he's only like 3 feet away

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 05:19 AM

I don't know what Kishi is planning, but I'm excited. I'm just hoping to see the rookies all get some spotlight actions, especially my cherry blossom. wub.gif

Hinata, you've been beautiful and all, but I'm ready to see my Sakura smash! Her healing Naruto and giving that speech of hers this chapter filled my heart with pride. I'm counting on you Kishi, let Sakura-chan do some badass fighting in this war! Plus, If Sasuke-kun is truly redeemed, I'm hoping for that T7 fight! And with Minato, and the past Hokage's (Hashi-sama!) on the battlefield, as well as Oro and Taka!? THE EXCITEMENT IS KILLING ME! arg.gif

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 05:39 AM

same here i hope naruto sakura and minato fight together

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:09 AM

QUOTE (Pink Chidori @ May 20 2013, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what Kishi is planning, but I'm excited. I'm just hoping to see the rookies all get some spotlight actions, especially my cherry blossom. wub.gif

Hinata, you've been beautiful and all, but I'm ready to see my Sakura smash! Her healing Naruto and giving that speech of hers this chapter filled my heart with pride. I'm counting on you Kishi, let Sakura-chan do some badass fighting in this war! Plus, If Sasuke-kun is truly redeemed, I'm hoping for that T7 fight! And with Minato, and the past Hokage's (Hashi-sama!) on the battlefield, as well as Oro and Taka!? THE EXCITEMENT IS KILLING ME! arg.gif



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE (kidNinja @ May 21 2013, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're really easy to please since you like all of the pairings. I wish I could be like you to an extent and find the beauty in each of them so I could satisfied regardless how things turn out in the end.

Everybody wishes that could be like that, but sometimes wishing for logical proper storytelling takes precedence in just being OK with any type of scenario.

For me, liking all pairings would be the equivalent of not caring whether Naruto can become the Hokage and fulfill the rest of his aspirations.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:03 AM

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

Gaaah, I can't wait!!! THIS IS KILLING ME! Tomorrow chapter, come faster!

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

It will just have Minato who see Hinata in front of him and will say "Nice! Remember me your mother, Naruto! And who kittening is that ugly pink haired near to you?! Get your hands off my son, you b*tch!" Simple a prediction from a NH fan around there

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:51 AM

Honstly im not sure if there will be any comment about sakura from minato in the next chapter.
Im confident that he will say something about her, but it will be at the time where edo-tensei is released and he dissapears. Some kind of last thoughts or words from minato.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 12:13 PM

@phenixelite
yup agree, i think minato interaction only with naruto in next chapter, but like narusaku4life said it's a bonus for ns if he talk/comment to sakura.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

That's why I said the most we'll see is some sort of inner monologue from Sakura in regards to Minato's appearance.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ May 21 2013, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's why I said the most we'll see is some sort of inner monologue from Sakura in regards to Minato's appearance.

Maybe,
I think that minato commenting on sakura is likely. I mean kishi had no problem to show minato teasing naruto about sakura in road to ninja in some way.

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#657 Chatte

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ May 21 2013, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe,
I think that minato commenting on sakura is likely. I mean kishi had no problem to show minato teasing naruto about sakura in road to ninja in some way.

God if something like this happens in the manga, I'll die, lol!

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ May 21 2013, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's why I said the most we'll see is some sort of inner monologue from Sakura in regards to Minato's appearance.


I agree the most we can see is some more foreshadowing. Minatos focus will be on Naruto and the war. There's also Obito to take into account.



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:24 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ May 21 2013, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe,
I think that minato commenting on sakura is likely. I mean kishi had no problem to show minato teasing naruto about sakura in road to ninja in some way.


Yes I really want Kishi using reference from the movie when Minato talks to Naruto and Sakura since opposite fandoms have no problem saying the movie is "filler" and has nothing to do with the canon manga. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:30 PM

Actually the previous chapters included Sakura so having her disapear like Sai now feels a bit odd. Considering your review Chatte to have Kishi hide Sakura without any reason now is an epic fail.
Heck he even draw them similar. Omg not sure about the next chapter but the volume will be awesome.
Yet not sure if the parallel plot will be adressed here. Maybe when Minato will be at peace he will say something.




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