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[Tokura Misaki]

So, SasuKarin is back!

[T XD]

So, SasuKarin is back!

Yeah, but if SK will happen, Karin needs to let go of her fan girl flirting way with Sasuke or decrease it a lot XD

This chapter for Karin's part was to show that Karin still loves Sasuke and not done with him.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well just letting, there's a possibility of Sasuke trolling the kages?
The chapter only shows the kages going to jump but if Sasuke tricked them and did not resolved to teleport just because he didnt stand a chance against the 4 kages.
I only saw Sasuke thinking about Itachi on his resolution but nothing about the village or his own past on the team 7, it's weird.

"Yes, a faceoff between Naruto and Sasuke is waiting as well.
First of all 'beep!' come(/comes) back and because 'beep!',
'beep!' resurge(/s) from 'beep!'. And then the bijus gather together and 'beep' to 'beep(/win)!'.
This way there are many dramas(=dramatic events) planned for (/toward) the end and as 'beep' of 'beep' are going to fall like 'beep', your eyes will be glued (to the manga), I reckon."

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 April 2013 - 06:09 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well just letting, there's a possibility of Sasuke trolling the kages?
The chapter only shows the kages going to jump but if Sasuke tricked them and did not resolved to teleport just because he didnt stand a chance against the 4 kages.
I only saw Sasuke thinking about Itachi on his resolution but nothing about the village or his own past on the team 7, it's weird.

"Yes, a faceoff between Naruto and Sasuke is waiting as well.
First of all 'beep!' come(/comes) back and because 'beep!',
'beep!' resurge(/s) from 'beep!'. And then the bijus gather together and 'beep' to 'beep(/win)!'.
This way there are many dramas(=dramatic events) planned for (/toward) the end and as 'beep' of 'beep' are going to fall like 'beep', your eyes will be glued (to the manga), I reckon."

Are they teleporting? That's where I don't get yet.

You know, I always wonder how to use that moon eye plan. I can see it to be used on people, not entire world like another dimension. I can see that because regardless if the village should be protected, the people is the one he should worry about since one can be a new Danzou or anyone who wants to dictate. That's something I would do if I wanting to create peace without destruction or making what it stands meaningless. Note: I got to be neutral on it, not good or bad. But we have to wait. My only concern is what's next.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Are they teleporting? That's where I don't get yet.

You know, I always wonder how to use that moon eye plan. I can see it to be used on people, not entire world like another dimension. I can see that because regardless if the village should be protected, the people is the one he should worry about since one can be a new Danzou or anyone who wants to dictate. That's something I would do if I wanting to create peace without destruction or making what it stands meaningless. Note: I got to be neutral on it, not good or bad. But we have to wait. My only concern is what's next.

I think based on the most recent interview i'm thinking that Sasuke will not join the battle.
I'm hoping that 628 will be like 616.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 April 2013 - 07:12 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think based on the most recent interview i'm thinking that Sasuke will not join the battle.
I'm hoping that 628 will be like 616.

Like Sasuke will make you feel suspicious that there's more than he said or Orochimaru will say something about it. Funny, where's the rest of that flashback with Sasuke and Orochimaru talking.

[Qia]

*coughs* It's possible that Karin was putting on an act because if you paid closer attention to interactions between Sasuke and Karin you'd realize that she only seriously makes a move on Sasuke when they're alone. And, to add to this, she's never stated that she forgives him yet, so it's possible that she'll bring it up with him later...when there aren't so many people.

[Dkey]

*coughs* It's possible that Karin was putting on an act because if you paid closer attention to interactions between Sasuke and Karin you'd realize that she only seriously makes a move on Sasuke when they're alone. And, to add to this, she's never stated that she forgives him yet, so it's possible that she'll bring it up with him later...when there aren't so many people.

I think we have to reach the conclusion that Karin is coo-coo.

[James S Cassidy]

But the thing is, some readers DID anticipate Karin's behavior while some apparently didn't. Who is to say which reaction was Kishimoto's intention? If some people could anticipate the possibility of Karin's return to Sasuke -- whatever her motivation might be -- they are either good at guessing, Kishimoto is just that awful and predictable, or Kishimoto did enough work to show it.

All I know is, if the entire intentionw as to keep Karin as Sasuke's lapdog, then why have that one scene with her saying "I am done with you." This is what I mean by pointless development. This is what I mean by "throwing away wasted potential." We might as well say Sasuke never stabbed Karin at all seeing how everyone is so willing to forgive him so quickly for it.

Again, as Sarenity Namikaze said: "Sasuke can do no wrong. No matter what he does he will always be forgiven." and Karin just proved it. If she is so willing to forgive him for what he did, than screw it Sasuke is NEVER the bad guy. We might as well say it right now. He could wipe out Konoha, but we would still forgive him.

As for the rest of your post KnS, I can't reply to it, cause most of it is you putting words in my mouth.

I never said you said anything of the sort. I am merely remarking the fact on the difference between infatuation and an abused woman. Abused women do not really like staying with their lovers, they are forced to out of fear. Again, you never said this, I am just pointing out the facts on what abused women are. Karin would not be considered an abused woman, despite you bringing up the biting and such, because she doesn't stay with Sasuke thinking "If I don't do what he says, he will kill me." Rather she does it "cause I love him and I would do anything for him."

See the point I am making? I hate it when people put words in my mouth. That's irritating. And it's not Stockholm syndrome so we can rule that out.

You know, funny enough, Karin has now become the representation of all the fangirls in real life. I am starting to wonder if he did it on purpose just to make fun of them.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 12 April 2013 - 09:26 PM.

[merryGOflava]

I think we have to reach the conclusion that Karin is coo-coo.

half of me me wants her to betray sasuke later....but the other half wants her to be with sasuke.......

sigh

[Qia]

I think we have to reach the conclusion that Karin is coo-coo.

Why? When she's been shown to be so smart that she even tricked some Konoha guards with this same "obsession" she had with Sasuke, becoming serious and already planning her escape when she takes off her glasses. That's when you see the real Karin.

[Nate River]

Again, as Sarenity Namikaze said: "Sasuke can do no wrong. No matter what he does he will always be forgiven." and Karin just proved it. If she is so willing to forgive him for what he did, than screw it Sasuke is NEVER the bad guy. We might as well say it right now. He could wipe out Konoha, but we would still forgive him.

I don't think that's right at all. I think it's far more accurate to say that Sasuke will never be allowed to do anything that cannot be forgiven or undone. He will not wipe out Konoha despite a fantastic chance to do so now. Karin did not die. Sakura was rescued before he struck and his only fatalities are Deidara, Danzou, and Itachi people the main cast wanted dead anyway.

I never said you said anything of the sort. I am merely remarking the fact on the difference between infatuation and an abused woman. Abused women do not really like staying with their lovers, they are forced to out of fear. Again, you never said this, I am just pointing out the facts on what abused women are. Karin would not be considered an abused woman, despite you bringing up the biting and such, because she doesn't stay with Sasuke thinking "If I don't do what he says, he will kill me." Rather she does it "cause I love him and I would do anything for him."

Soooooooooo.........

Being stabbed and left for dead is not abuse?

[Inferno180]

Hopefully this is what we see in the end:

http://media.animega...rusaku.jpg?=123

We get this and everything is fine.

and not this basically:

http://fc08.devianta...nx0-d5j0wui.jpg

We get this basically if Sakura regresses and

Why Kishi Why?

Kishi-->

Edited by Inferno180, 12 April 2013 - 10:43 PM.

[Shadow1275]

Hopefully this is what we see in the end:

http://media.animega...rusaku.jpg?=123

We get this and everything is fine.

and not this basically:

http://fc08.devianta...nx0-d5j0wui.jpg

We get this basically if Sakura regresses and

Why Kishi Why? :

Kishi-->

A little over the top, but yeah your right about this one.

[Qia]

And just so I prove I'm not totally crazy for thinking what I am, these are the times she's gone dere on him:

Yes I'm still on this because Karin is not that really crazy fan girl she seems to act as in the recent chapter --Click here to view--

[tricksie]

Abused women do not really like staying with their lovers, they are forced to out of fear. Again, you never said this, I am just pointing out the facts on what abused women are.

Sorry...but what? It's not that simple. In abuse situations, fear is only a fraction of the problem. Never the whole thing. More often women or men are too insecure, either on their own or through conditioning, to detach from the abuser. They deeply believe if they change their behavior then the abuse will stop. It's more about control than it ever is about fear. And yes, when there is fear of some physical abuse, it's usually long after the emotional damage and conditioning has already been done.

[AzureWaters]

Actually it would be better for SK if Karin tried to "betray" him, since it would make her feelings into srs bizness. Right now she's coming off as a straight fangirl and is pretty much drooling over Sasuke. Even Part 1 Sakura wasn't this bad when it came to him.

SasuKarin looks like comic relief or joke =/= Eventual endgame

Edited by AzureWaters, 13 April 2013 - 01:22 AM.

[swagosaurus]

Either Kishi's writing has completely gone off the deep end, or he's planning something, like another twist.

I sincerely hope it's the latter.

[FoolishYoungling]

Either Kishi's writing has completely gone off the deep end, or he's planning something, like another twist.

I sincerely hope it's the latter.

agreed.

[KnS]

The problem is that she said "i'm done", then later it's show her fangirling over him and at the same time mad

I can see how readers might have believed that one line was enough to completely erase her weird/dark personality and her long-standing obsession with Sasuke, but not necessarily. She might have even meant it when she said it, but it sticking to it -- choosing something smart and healthy for her life -- doesn't really fit Karin's personality or history, does it?

sakura is the part that i'm concerned the most, the same way that the jail scene could be a hint that she was not so in love with him and would not be easy for her ot go back to sasuke, 540 instead of being a development were she get over Sasuke could be only a moment that shows "she still loves Sasuke and that's it" nothing else, Ino is the same.

I get what you're saying, I just don't think (at this point, anyway) there's any reason to worry. Apart from their misguided feelings for Sasuke (and even that's not unusual for teenage girls), Sakura and Ino are normal girls with normal interests and reactions, and with normal families and relationships. Karin is/has none of that normal background or behavior.

Sakura and Ino have not lived with Sasuke on the road unchaperoned. They have not aligned themselves with his dark nature, or accepted his quest for revenge and done everything they can to serve his desire to kill and destroy. Karin has. Sakura and Ino are coming from a stable background with good examples of happy relationships, Karin is not.

Looking at it that way, I think it's not only possible but believable that Sakura and Ino would truly get over Sasuke and pursue someone better for them while Karin might not.

What the problem with Ino,Karin and SAkura to love Sasuke, he didnt give a single development for them and neither he was at their side on their most times, at least Hinata shows reasonable reasons for loving Naruto, you can say that she's selfish or centered on him but naruto give development for her and was a influence on their lives while Sasuke dont, for Sakura just the fact of a teammate but still it was Naruto who helped her on the most of the development then second is Ino and third Tsunade.
Excluding Hinata their love for him is ridiculous.

I agree. Sasuke is a terrible love interest in every way.

As for the rest of your post KnS, I can't reply to it, cause most of it is you putting words in my mouth.

I'm sorry you feel that way, James. It was not my intention to irritate you. In fact, I did my best to respond to all of your remarks in a clear and respectful way. Additionally, rather than try to put words in your mouth I said, "So if I'm understanding you correctly" -- which is an implied request for clarification of your viewpoint. Pretty much the opposite.

I am merely remarking the fact on the difference between infatuation and an abused woman. Abused women do not really like staying with their lovers, they are forced to out of fear. Again, you never said this, I am just pointing out the facts on what abused women are. Karin would not be considered an abused woman, despite you bringing up the biting and such, because she doesn't stay with Sasuke thinking "If I don't do what he says, he will kill me." Rather she does it "cause I love him and I would do anything for him."

See the point I am making?

No, I really don't see your point. To do so I would have to accept your definition of abuse, and I can't. There is far more complexity to abuse. Besides, you have said, "Karin would not be considered an abused woman..." so there's really no value in continuing along this line of discussion.

Actually it would be better for SK if Karin tried to "betray" him, since it would make her feelings into srs bizness. Right now she's coming off as a straight fangirl and is pretty much drooling over Sasuke. Even Part 1 Sakura wasn't this bad when it came to him.

I could buy into that.

Either Kishi's writing has completely gone off the deep end, or he's planning something, like another twist.

I sincerely hope it's the latter.

Yes.

Edited by KnS, 13 April 2013 - 02:45 AM.