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#641 Anguyen92

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:55 AM

QUOTE (kidNinja @ May 1 2012, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
YES! Can't forget the babies!!


Also, it's also sickening to her NH fans claim that Kushina is in fact more similar to Hinata than Sakura...it badly reeks of desperation.


Well, since they are a fandom that's going to stick to their guns on their pairing and their beliefs on which pairing is going to be canon, this is pretty much not going to sway them into thinking with a more realistic view on the terms and direction of the pairing front of the series, but anyway.

I found this link in one of the main NS deviantarts group, about why NS fans see Kushina's and Sakura's personality as the same. It pretty much reenforces much about what we already know, but this could used for those that doubt that Sakura and Kushina are similar. Then again, those doubters may not believe it anyway, but its worth a shot.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:17 AM

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That thing was great, even though we already knew all of them, I love seeing people put them neatly together. tongue.gif

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:08 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Apr 30 2012, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like we'll find out when Road to Ninja comes out in July since Kishimoto is doing the story. smile.gif

But, in my opinion, she'll probably first smack herself on the head in an "uh duh" reaction, because the resemblance is so obvious. laugh.gif Then she'll remember the how Naruto became the host for the Kyuubi and realize Minato sealed the Kyuubi in his own newborn child and wonder what happened. It will remind her again of what Naruto endured as a young child and she'll react similarly to how she did when she found out Naruto was the host for the Kyuubi. There'd be a tender scene between Sakura and Naruto.


Either that, or she already knows from Shikamaru. Honestly, it wouldn't take Shika less than a minute to figure out Naruto's identity back when he was in the Academy. If anything, I see Kakashi mentioning that it was Minato who fixed the seal when he turned 8-tails, but went no further. However, Shikamaru decides the time is right for the K-11 to know who Naruto really is. Reason why Shikamaru never bothered to tell until now, would be "troublesome" as usual. To be honest, I think Shikamaru is the only one outside the top brass who knows his identity is.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ May 2 2012, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Either that, or she already knows from Shikamaru. Honestly, it wouldn't take Shika less than a minute to figure out Naruto's identity back when he was in the Academy. If anything, I see Kakashi mentioning that it was Minato who fixed the seal when he turned 8-tails, but went no further. However, Shikamaru decides the time is right for the K-11 to know who Naruto really is. Reason why Shikamaru never bothered to tell until now, would be "troublesome" as usual. To be honest, I think Shikamaru is the only one outside the top brass who knows his identity is.


I really don't think that Shikamaru knows that fourth was father of naruto! Either all or most of rookie 11 already know that fourth was his father or no one will be knowing uptil now it except for jounin and some chunin of the village(age group of kakshi, iruka, not like neji)! But yeah it will be good to see whether or not kishi gives a scene where it is shown whether Rookie-11 knows about fourth being naruto's father or not!

Side chatting -By the way R u guys not kind of getting bored with watching Sausuke & Itachi vs kabuto for so long! I so want to see Naruto vs tobi but I guess it will still take some months since if tobi vs naruto starts rookie 11 will also be shown to reach him and I expect we see a romantic NS moment their(although it seems highly unlikely from sakura's point of view until we reach till the very end of manga)

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ May 2 2012, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Either that, or she already knows from Shikamaru. Honestly, it wouldn't take Shika less than a minute to figure out Naruto's identity back when he was in the Academy. If anything, I see Kakashi mentioning that it was Minato who fixed the seal when he turned 8-tails, but went no further. However, Shikamaru decides the time is right for the K-11 to know who Naruto really is. Reason why Shikamaru never bothered to tell until now, would be "troublesome" as usual. To be honest, I think Shikamaru is the only one outside the top brass who knows his identity is.



QUOTE (lord287 @ May 2 2012, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really don't think that Shikamaru knows that fourth was father of naruto! Either all or most of rookie 11 already know that fourth was his father or no one will be knowing uptil now it except for jounin and some chunin of the village(age group of kakshi, iruka, not like neji)! But yeah it will be good to see whether or not kishi gives a scene where it is shown whether Rookie-11 knows about fourth being naruto's father or not!



I don't think that any of the Konoha 11 know 100% but I think Shikamaru suspects that Naruto might be the Fourth's son, and for some reason I think that Neji might as well, I don't know why though.


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Side chatting -By the way R u guys not kind of getting bored with watching Sausuke & Itachi vs kabuto for so long! I so want to see Naruto vs tobi but I guess it will still take some months since if tobi vs naruto starts rookie 11 will also be shown to reach him and I expect we see a romantic NS moment their(although it seems highly unlikely from sakura's point of view until we reach till the very end of manga)



How can I get board of a fight that hasn't really started yet, I'm acctually looking forward to seeing Itachi fighting as a good guy, but before the Sasuke & Itachi vs. Kabuto fight will be interupted to show a little more of the Kages vs Madara fight because if Itachi's plan works when his and Sasuke's fight is over then so is the Kages'. I don't think we will see anything of the Naruto vs. Tobi fight until then and the rest of the Konoha 11 get there at which point I think that we will see a Konoha 11 (all 11) + Sai, Kakashi, Guy and B vs. Tobi fight.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Jake @ May 2 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How can I get board of a fight that hasn't really started yet, I'm acctually looking forward to seeing Itachi fighting as a good guy, but before the Sasuke & Itachi vs. Kabuto fight will be interupted to show a little more of the Kages vs Madara fight because if Itachi's plan works when his and Sasuke's fight is over then so is the Kages'. I don't think we will see anything of the Naruto vs. Tobi fight until then and the rest of the Konoha 11 get there at which point I think that we will see a Konoha 11 (all 11) + Sai, Kakashi, Guy and B vs. Tobi fight.


I don't think that konoha 11 will fight alongside Naruto because this fight now belongs to only four of them and if konoha 11 comes then so will many ninja who were coming with them! I think a little weaker enemy or something liek that will appear to stop konoha 11 for sometime and only 2 or 3 of them(maybe sakura, sai and anyone else) will reach naruto! I so don't want that Naruto keeps on getting help time and again where the other major fights are going without any further external help! And if it takes full konoha 11 + B, kakashi and guy to beat tobi it will make tobi one heck of strong ninja even stronger than madara and hasirama!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Jake @ May 2 2012, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think that any of the Konoha 11 know 100% but I think Shikamaru suspects that Naruto might be the Fourth's son, and for some reason I think that Neji might as well, I don't know why though.


Do you honestly expect a genius with an IQ over 200 to miss the clues and not put two & two together?? lastly, his dad is actually one of Konoha's top brass, he would've confirmed it with his old man at some point.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ May 2 2012, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you honestly expect a genius with an IQ over 200 to miss the clues and not put two & two together?? lastly, his dad is actually one of Konoha's top brass, he would've confirmed it with his old man at some point.



Maybe "suspects" was not the best choice of words. I think he has put two and two together but just hasn't bothered to put the effort into comfirming it.




@Lord287: Remember Tobi has the statue with seven of the Tailed Beasts sealed into it, taking that thing out is going to be hard also Tobi is the main antagonist he should be a very strong and very tough to beat. And if I'm right and the Naruto vs. Tobi fight will not resume untill after the Itachi & Sasuke vs. Kabuto fight then there will not be anyone to hold up the army, especially since Black Zetsu isn't or should I say shouldn't be anywhere near them and the same goes for Sasuke.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:05 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ May 2 2012, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you honestly expect a genius with an IQ over 200 to miss the clues and not put two & two together?? lastly, his dad is actually one of Konoha's top brass, he would've confirmed it with his old man at some point.


I'm positive Shikaku already knew, seeing how he let his son play with Naruto and wasnt treating him badly.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ May 2 2012, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm positive Shikaku already knew, seeing how he let his son play with Naruto and wasnt treating him badly.



I've always had the same impression, same with Choza and Kiba's partent (I'm not sure which one would've been the one picking him up).

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (Jake @ May 2 2012, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Lord287: Remember Tobi has the statue with seven of the Tailed Beasts sealed into it, taking that thing out is going to be hard also Tobi is the main antagonist he should be a very strong and very tough to beat. And if I'm right and the Naruto vs. Tobi fight will not resume untill after the Itachi & Sasuke vs. Kabuto fight then there will not be anyone to hold up the army, especially since Black Zetsu isn't or should I say shouldn't be anywhere near them and the same goes for Sasuke.


I remember that well and also that Naruto has already freed 6 out of 7 tails(shukaku remaining only) from the chains of tobi, meaning tobi can't control them anymore alone and this is the reason that if Naruto can defeat 6 tailed beasts alone he won't need extra help from konoha 11 to beat him until tobi shows some true hidden identity power of him! Moreover in chapter 573 it was clear that tobi got worried seeing naruto's new power!

For the undarkened part I don't know what will happen, I was only telling what I think can happen! Because I think naruto needing help against tobi in his current state or any other state is not a gud idea unless somehow he becomes host of 10 tails! Then Naurto MIGHT need help, but it will be even better if he doesn't need help their also and saves the world alone! He can then become the lone hero of the world, but as kishi always make sasuke seem nearly and sometimes even more important than naruto I think Naruto will share little of his glory with sasuke as well!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:43 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ May 2 2012, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember that well and also that Naruto has already freed 6 out of 7 tails(shukaku remaining only) from the chains of tobi, meaning tobi can't control them anymore alone and this is the reason that if Naruto can defeat 6 tailed beasts alone he won't need extra help from konoha 11 to beat him until tobi shows some true hidden identity power of him! Moreover in chapter 573 it was clear that tobi got worried seeing naruto's new power!

For the undarkened part I don't know what will happen, I was only telling what I think can happen! Because I think naruto needing help against tobi in his current state or any other state is not a gud idea unless somehow he becomes host of 10 tails! Then Naurto MIGHT need help, but it will be even better if he doesn't need help their also and saves the world alone! He can then become the lone hero of the world, but as kishi always make sasuke seem nearly and sometimes even more important than naruto I think Naruto will share little of his glory with sasuke as well!


From the looks of things I don't think that Naruto is capable of pulling off another full transformation for a while and he looks like he could use a slight rest.

Also remember what Itachi said to Naruto about how he shouldn't try to do eveything by himself.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE (Jake @ May 2 2012, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From the looks of things I don't think that Naruto is capable of pulling off another full transformation for a while and he looks like he could use a slight rest.

Also remember what Itachi said to Naruto about how he shouldn't try to do eveything by himself.


Yeah I remember that also, But I want Naruto to become the only hero in the end and what is the best way other than defeating the strongest villain alone! I want it to happen because kishi always make naruto on equal with sasuke which I really hate! Naruto is the title character and he should and hopefully will become the greatest hero without making sasuke getting any importance or credit for any heroism he(sasuke) might show!

Until now if the story was not named Naruto but konoha or something like that I would have thought that Sasuke is more important than naruto but in the end I hope kishi will make naruto the greatest hero!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ May 2 2012, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then Naurto MIGHT need help, but it will be even better if he doesn't need help their also and saves the world alone! He can then become the lone hero of the world, but as kishi always make sasuke seem nearly and sometimes even more important than naruto I think Naruto will share little of his glory with sasuke as well!

It has been hinted that Naruto will need help. Listen to Itachi's words to him. He told him he needed to learn to rely on his friends. He couldn't do everything by himself. His friends were his strength. Itachi told him Minato was strong because he had people like Kushina with him. Of course, after hearing that, Naruto made a bunch of clones and nearly won the war by himself, so who knows what Kishi is saying.

But I hope it means Naruto will not save the world by himself and the K12 will play a very important role in helping him win.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:49 PM

Naruto by himself (with the exception of the Pein fight) = boring.

Seriously. If it wasn't for Bee in the recent chapters, then I wouldn't have been able to bear reading the parts with Naruto. I don't know why; it's just like that for me.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ May 2 2012, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto by himself (with the exception of the Pein fight) = boring.

Seriously. If it wasn't for Bee in the recent chapters, then I wouldn't have been able to bear reading the parts with Naruto. I don't know why; it's just like that for me.



I think like you xd: little Naruto won my heart by default, I like everything about Naruto when he was a kid, plus the never given up thing for me little Naruto all the way.

Current Naruto I guess he is ok, but in fighting scene: Kakashi, A Raikage, Keeler Bee, Lee, Gai and Minato are the ones I love to see, and from the villian side Tobi, Pain/Pain, Orochimaru and Hidan.

Naruto with the Rasengan spamming, Sasuke Sasuke 24/7 and the TNJ from is really annoying and boring.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:01 PM

Well, seeing as the previous topic kinda died, mine as well start a new one! smile.gif

Where do you guys think a NaruSaku confession is gonna take place? I always pictured it being right at that special area where romantic topics always seem to pop up with Team7 (with Sakura's confession to Sasuke and Naruto's special forehead comment to Sakura.)

Although with the way things are going, it could just happen in the battlefield. I don't know. Any ideas?



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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (Kiaya @ May 4 2012, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, seeing as the previous topic kinda died, mine as well start a new one! smile.gif

Where do you guys think a NaruSaku confession is gonna take place? I always pictured it being right at that special area where romantic topics always seem to pop up with Team7 (with Sakura's confession to Sasuke and Naruto's special forehead comment to Sakura.)

Although with the way things are going, it could just happen in the battlefield. I don't know. Any ideas?


Well it could be right before or after the Naruto vs Sasuke fight if you've seen that OVA. Sakura would probably have to see Naruto almost die or something. Personally I think Naruto needs to make a move on Sakura though because he just

completely rejected her confession last time. We know one of the reasons Naruto hasn't told Sakura how he feels about her is because of what he told Sai, "How can I tell her? I'm just a guy who couldn't keep a promise." However, Naruto wanted

to fulfill that promise back before Sakura said the POAL was off. Now that the promise is supposedly invalid it may happen sooner... But yeah I agree with having the forehead comment involved or just have Naruto go in for a forehead kiss before

the Sasuke fight or something. If not then, then I'm sure it'd happen at the conclusion of the story when they're back in town or something after the war's over. We'll see though.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:59 AM

QUOTE (Master_Naruto @ May 5 2012, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it could be right before or after the Naruto vs Sasuke fight if you've seen that OVA. Sakura would probably have to see Naruto almost die or something. Personally I think Naruto needs to make a move on Sakura though because he just

completely rejected her confession last time. We know one of the reasons Naruto hasn't told Sakura how he feels about her is because of what he told Sai, "How can I tell her? I'm just a guy who couldn't keep a promise." However, Naruto wanted

to fulfill that promise back before Sakura said the POAL was off. Now that the promise is supposedly invalid it may happen sooner... But yeah I agree with having the forehead comment involved or just have Naruto go in for a forehead kiss before

the Sasuke fight or something. If not then, then I'm sure it'd happen at the conclusion of the story when they're back in town or something after the war's over. We'll see though.


I don't think he will ever confess if he is unable to turn sasuke good again(not saying that sasuke will come back but that he will just end up being like jiraiya, moving here and there collecing intellect)! Moreover if sasuke dies or sasuke remains evil I can't think narusaku will become canon! Neither from sakura's point nor from naruto!

I can imagine narusaku become truly canon with no further questions in it will be if sasuke becomes normal again and gives up on taking revenge! Then if sakura still accepts Naruto over sasuke it will be proper pure canon narusaku, but if sasuke dies or doesn't become normal I won't be able to believe that Naruto did a confession(if he do so) and sakura took him because she truly loved him! It will seem sakura took him because he was her second choice, moreover sakura will always become very sad when she will think of sasuke!

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:18 AM

QUOTE (lord287 @ May 5 2012, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think he will ever confess if he is unable to turn sasuke good again(not saying that sasuke will come back but that he will just end up being like jiraiya, moving here and there collecing intellect)! Moreover if sasuke dies or sasuke remains evil I can't think narusaku will become canon! Neither from sakura's point nor from naruto!

I can imagine narusaku become truly canon with no further questions in it will be if sasuke becomes normal again and gives up on taking revenge! Then if sakura still accepts Naruto over sasuke it will be proper pure canon narusaku, but if sasuke dies or doesn't become normal I won't be able to believe that Naruto did a confession(if he do so) and sakura took him because she truly loved him! It will seem sakura took him because he was her second choice, moreover sakura will always become very sad when she will think of sasuke!


yeah I agree that it would be best if Sakura chooses Naruto over a "good" Sasuke. And what you said about Naruto being a second choice is why I can't see NH happening since Hinata would pretty much be a second choice as well. The question is

how is Kishi going to make Sasuke turn good without it being so awkward. I mean Sasuke seems to be pretty much off the deep end. Maybe he'll turn good, Sakura will choose Naruto then despite Sasuke having a change of heart, and then later

on Sasuke will die sacrificing himself to save Naruto or something. Then Naruto goes crazy and kills Tobi, and the end tongue.gif Who knows.

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