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#6541 luffyq1

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:59 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Dec 14 2012, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, come on, no need to get that aggressive... Look, I agreed with you and everything, I do understand from where you're coming, however, in the end we're fighting over something that's a little obvious...
In the end, yes, Kishi did marketing over NH, SS but about who exactly was the entire movie? Yes, NaruSaku...
So see, that's why I said he hits two times in a row, he's a smart guy, knows how to make his money but do his own thing.
If he did it with a movie, what makes you believe he's not going to do it with the manga as well?
He can keep it all along until the end, and reveal it within the last 10 chapters because in the end, losing the money over ten chapters is nothing compared to losing the money over hundreds.
See where I'm coming from? smile.gif


Chatte, you're my girl and all and I respect you, but you gotta understand how this site works. Like you stated, in the end Kishi did cash in big by putting NH & SS as the poster of the pairings, and while that is true, the movie is definitely centered around NS. But, this site was in an uproar upon the release of the official trailer, and they only started to celebrate months after the spoilers came to light and it was the NH & SS fandom in an uproar. It's the role reversal game that both NS & NH/SS love to play.

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 14 2012, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't get that impression from him at all.


When you lurk on this site for as long as I have, you'll get a basic understanding on how the lovely Kns operates.

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 14 2012, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The NS fandom isn't cooler than the NH fandom.
The NS pairing has more support in canon than the NH pairing. That, friend, is the point here.


"The NS pairing has more support in canon than the NH pairing. That, friend, is the point?" That, friend, is something that has been spewed so many times that even God knows.

Edited by luffyq1, 15 December 2012 - 12:00 AM.

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#6542 swagosaurus

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:00 AM

NOW I see where Luffy is coming from.

Damn, he has a point. It was sad-tacos all around when the movie advertising came out on this site.


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#6543 luffyq1

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 15 2012, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NOW I see where Luffy is coming from.

Damn, he has a point. It was sad-tacos all around when the movie advertising came out on this site.


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#6544 Chucky-kun

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 15 2012, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chatte, you're my girl and all and I respect you, but you gotta understand how this site works. Like you stated, in the end Kishi did cash in big by putting NH & SS as the poster of the pairings, and while that is true, the movie is definitely centered around NS. But, this site was in an uproar upon the release of the official trailer, and they only started to celebrate months after the spoilers came to light and it was the NH & SS fandom in an uproar. It's the role reversal game that both NS & NH/SS love to play.



When you lurk on this site for as long as I have, you'll get a basic understanding on how the lovely Kns operates.



"The NS pairing has more support in canon than the NH pairing. That, friend, is the point?" That, friend, is something that has been spewed so many times that even God knows.


You're missing the fact that kishi is an enormous troll.

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#6545 swagosaurus

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 14 2012, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're missing the fact that kishi is an enormous troll.


I think that's an overdone saying. He subtly hints at stuff in interviews, avoids topics he doesn't want to talk about and has snippy comments about everything.

The only true troll he did, IMO, was RtN. And it was funny as hell.


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#6546 Chucky-kun

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:12 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 15 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's an overdone saying. He subtly hints at stuff in interviews, avoids topics he doesn't want to talk about and has snippy comments about everything.

The only true troll he did, IMO, was RtN. And it was funny as hell.

Considering the fact that RtN made so much money, I think he's an enormous troll.

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#6547 luffyq1

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:12 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 15 2012, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's an overdone saying. He subtly hints at stuff in interviews, avoids topics he doesn't want to talk about and has snippy comments about everything.

The only true troll he did, IMO, was RtN. And it was funny as hell.


Definitely funny. I was laughing at both fandoms. It's like the perfect comedy, swag.

Edited by luffyq1, 15 December 2012 - 12:30 AM.

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#6548 Chucky-kun

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:15 AM

Well considering naruto has like 2 more years, will there be 2 more movies?

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#6549 swagosaurus

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:16 AM

There's three reasons I want NaruSaku to become canon:

One, because it's a stellar pairing, and it's just...blah. It's good kitten.

Two, though this may be arguable, but it fits with the manga. The parallels, the foreshadowing, the themes; it's all connected.

Three, the rage of every other fandom this manga has to offer. I feel like we're against the world, and just the fact that we, out of all pairings, became canon, would be hilarious.

Perfect comedy indeed. If Kishi pulls a RtN, I'm going to weep tears of joy and puke rainbows.

Edited by swagosaurus, 15 December 2012 - 12:17 AM.



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#6550 CloudMountainJuror

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 14 2012, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"The NS pairing has more support in canon than the NH pairing. That, friend, is the point?" That, friend, is something that has been spewed so many times that even God knows.

You're right, it has. But, hey, it's true. sleep.gif I won't lie, a lot of the stuff on this board can get incredibly repetitive. But, from the way you phrased things, it came across as if you were implying that all of our pairing arguments are bullsh**. So I responded accordingly. If I misinterpreted, I apologize.

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#6551 luffyq1

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 15 2012, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Three, the rage of every other fandom this manga has to offer. I feel like we're against the world, and just the fact that we, out of all pairings, became canon, would be hilarious.


Oh god, this sentence alone is full of so much win. I truly want to see some raging and name calling. I do expect some death threats from their side, especially from VJ. Oh boy, that guy is gonna spam Kishi's email address with all kinds of ways to punish him.

Edited by luffyq1, 15 December 2012 - 12:25 AM.

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#6552 swagosaurus

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 14 2012, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh god, this sentence alone is full of so much win. I truly want to see some raging and name calling. I do expect some death threats from their side, especially from VJ. Oh boy, that guy is gonna spam Kishi's email address with all kinds of ways to punish him.


VJ. ROFL.

Oh god, even if something silly like NaruKarin or NaruIno happens, that guy's reaction would be laughably amazing.

I got into a scuffle with him once on a manga forum. The guy called me 'delusional' because I thought Hinata and Naruto never talked.

Edited by swagosaurus, 15 December 2012 - 12:27 AM.



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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 15 2012, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh Kns, I really love you. I just love how you and almost everyone in here boast about your parallels, your hints, your foreshadows, your beautiful development, and much more. It gives me the impression that you think your fandom is better than the opposing ones. But when it came time for Kishi to get big on dat money, oh let me tell you it was certainly a different story. Not to be a douchebag or anyhing, but I didn't even read all of your post. I understood all too well the premise of your argument based on your second sentence. The topics in this thread is like an infinite cycle of tsukuyomi. I get it, the NS fandom is much cooler than the NH fandom. There's no need to remind me bro.

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Always like a child crying around: Kishis is a troll, the story is bad writing, the hints, parrallels and development for NS means nothing, every pairing has same chances to become canon.
And to add, yes i have to say that NS i cooler then NH.

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#6554 Otaru

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Dec 9 2012, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, dunno about that, but where I read it, he was very dissapointed of the hate letters he got from the crazy Hinata fans.
He said something like "You always say Hinata,Hinata. I say Sakura is not Hinata" or someting like that anyway.
But what I read for sure is that he was very disappointed in the fandom's reaction over Sakura's confession and the hate letters.



I think Kishimoto defend Sakura because she's like his wife.
A friend a Kishimoto said once that his wife was very like Sakura.

I think Naruto is created from Kishi's soul.
I think Naruto soul is like Kishi's soul.

It makes so much sense that Naru and Saku are meant for each other.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 14 2012, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As usual, your replies to my post always oozes of butthurtism. You simply can't stand the fact that my post don't have that positive NS feel to it like you and many others in this thread. You're asking such a ridiculous question to give you proof that the "advertize team asked him to do it". You honestly think for a second that Kishi wasn't in the studio with the anime team when it came to the production of the movie? You honestly think he didn't have any part in the revelation of what to include in the official trailer in order to cash in big? Are you serious? LOL!


I cant stand the fact that your arguments are based in nothing you said "kishi did the trailers and the adversitizing" like he did everything including the movie itself the script was done by kishi and some other guy, and there is a director of the movie, kishi has 3 assistants that are able to draw the same drawing that kishimoto does.
I'm not butturt i cant simply stand the fact that the mods still not warned you for flaming.

The one who trolled the NH and SS fandom si this guy

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the owner of this page which is the oficial fanpage of road to ninja is simple the chief advertizer of road to ninja he was responsable for the trailers as such.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:36 AM

QUOTE (Otaru @ Dec 14 2012, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Kishimoto defend Sakura because she's like his wife.
A friend a Kishimoto said once that his wife was very like Sakura.

I think Naruto is created from Kishi's soul.
I think Naruto soul is like Kishi's soul.

It makes so much sense that Naru and Saku are meant for each other.


The one who made the comment of Sakura looking like Kishi's wife was Oda the mangaka of One Piece. He said that to him on the day of Kishi's wedding.

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#6557 swagosaurus

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:37 AM

Well, to everyone being grumpy-pants about Luffy, there comes a time when we need to stop talking about the positive, obvious aspects of this pairing.

For example, let's take parallels. The only confirmed, not implied, one is Obito/Naruto. Does that branch out to NaruSaku/ObiRin? Are parallels just coincidences, and fabricated from our own longing for this pairing to happen?


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#6558 luffyq1

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 15 2012, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
VJ. ROFL.

Oh god, even if something silly like NaruKarin or NaruIno happens, that guy's reaction would be laughably amazing.

I got into a scuffle with him once on a manga forum. The guy called me 'delusional' because I thought Hinata and Naruto never talked.


Holy crap, I actually kinda like Narukarin & NaruIno. Y u know my preference?

Say what?! You're telling me that you got away after making such an obvious claim? I'm just suprised the NH fandom didn't crucify you after uttering such words. You're lucky, do you know that?

QUOTE (Otaru @ Dec 15 2012, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Kishimoto defend Sakura because she's like his wife.
A friend a Kishimoto said once that his wife was very like Sakura.

I think Naruto is created from Kishi's soul.
I think Naruto soul is like Kishi's soul.

It makes so much sense that Naru and Saku are meant for each other.


Yeah I've heard the same thing too. It was said that Oda was the one who say that. You know rich mangakas gotta stick together lol.

Edited by luffyq1, 15 December 2012 - 12:41 AM.

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#6559 Zatheko

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 14 2012, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, to everyone being grumpy-pants about Luffy, there comes a time when we need to stop talking about the positive, obvious aspects of this pairing.

For example, let's take parallels. The only confirmed, not implied, one is Obito/Naruto. Does that branch out to NaruSaku/ObiRin? Are parallels just coincidences, and fabricated from our own longing for this pairing to happen?


I think It's something more than a coincidence, least I hope so.

#6560 swagosaurus

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

I like NaruIno and NaruKarin as well. NaruHina just irks me. It's so unbearable I can't even. I think my preference towards those pairings stems from my preference for NaruSak; all of those girls can knock Naruto on his ass. Tsundere archetypes ftw.

It's not even the fact that NH has a chance of becoming canon that rustles my jimmies. It's so one-sided, it's awkward.

Edited by swagosaurus, 15 December 2012 - 12:43 AM.



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