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#6521 Branden

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

Nope , not at all , but i thought that it would worth our time to post a sentence or two ^^ , just for the lols XD.

I can't say I haven't done that in the past, but can we please stop doing that. It seems like it's just another excuse for people to bash Hinata's fans, and the constant bashing is getting really irritating on this forum.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

 
on a lighter note um ns4life do you know any japanese translator? That can translate the gusty ninja novel?

I would love to say me, but I'm very light on translation. I'm more better with hearing than reading for Japanese. We got plenty in here. We have Megi, Ramen person (sorry, forgot how to spell), and that person with Chinese/Japanese lettering. Ask them.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

I can't say I haven't done that in the past, but can we please stop doing that. It seems like it's just another excuse for people to bash Hinata's fans, and the constant bashing is getting really irritating on this forum.

b ..but its just so entertaining at what they come up with out of thin air everyday . 


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:02 PM

b ..but its just so entertaining at what they come up with out of thin air everyday . 

I heard there are anti-naruhina clubs on narutoforums, you could join one of those.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:06 PM

Yeah, let's keep it low on the hate unless you have a legit reason to do so. Not for fun, but to address why.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:12 PM

Some parts of the audience need certain things to be spelled out for them. They don't see the beauty in the evolution of her character, or they just don't want to, lol. Yeah, the Sakura bashers call her every insult there is in the book (like still calling her a whore, even though she's only been interested in one guy in almost the entirety of the manga}...it's really disgusting.

 

I also didn't like Sakura in part 1, at all tbh, BUT after the time-skip, she wasn't the shallow girl I previously thought and she really seemed like she improved as a character, to me. I do think Kishi's poor handling (Part 2) of her character is one of the reasons why some fans view her in a negative light. I'm not even going to go into detail about my thoughts on Sakura as a main character and as the main heroine, but Kishimoto really did neglect her character imo. He could've done a lot better, though I still think she's decent character and she's still one of my top favorite characters!

 

Basically, I think if Kishi had given her better development after the time-skip, if he had gone out of his way to improve her character and to show to the audience that Sakura wasn't the same girl she was in Part 1, the differences between Sakura of Part 1 (fangirling you-know-what) and Sakura of Part 2 (a selfless and pretty badass hero) would have been a lot more apparent.

 

And yes, I know I'm probably a dozen posts behind whatever the current debate is about. :sweatdrop:



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:28 PM

I would love to say me, but I'm very light on translation. I'm more better with hearing than reading for Japanese. We got plenty in here. We have Megi, Ramen person (sorry, forgot how to spell), and that person with Chinese/Japanese lettering. Ask them.

 

Thank you , but lately they don't come to this forum to often... that's the problem. And its a lot to translate which is a lot of work i already scanned three chapters for this novel. And i need to scan three chapters more... :sweat:



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:31 PM

 
Thank you , but lately they don't come to this forum to often... that's the problem. And its a lot to translate which is a lot of work i already scanned three chapters for this novel. And i need to scan three chapters more... :sweat:

They do come here enough time. It's just perhaps right now could be their busy schedule. Regardless, you should contact them and they will get back to you. I'm sure they will. 頑張って!

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:34 PM

Imagine that happening :D, i will enjoy it ^_^.

Btw, something to think talk about ...

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Here's a picture of the skull of a fox:

 

Fox skull

 

Look familiar?

 

I won't even bother with the second one.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:39 PM

They do come here enough time. It's just perhaps right now could be their busy schedule. Regardless, you should contact them and they will get back to you. I'm sure they will. 頑張って!

 

Yeah i,ll try to pm the message and hopefully they could help me with this book.Thanks again 4life! :happy:   


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:54 PM

 
Here's a picture of the skull of a fox:
 

Fox skull

 
Look familiar?
 
I won't even bother with the second one.


he thanks for the fox skull thing I didnt know they went with geniune there I thought it was just a bit of fan service but the uchiha fan.... It's better to not post these here this forum is Pro NS not anti NH SS and needs to be friendly to everyone. Its a shame thou that Hinata is so debated

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:02 PM

 
No Dark Kurama is giving Kurama some of his chakra, they are not combined, and the sage used Yin-Yang Release, a Chakra Nature so I don't think it's the same, but I could be wrong.


I read that yin-yang release is the combo of yin release and yang release. I thought the techniques just had to do with the chakra types.

Get this - I was just reading Narutopedia, and it said that Obito used yin-yang release to create the substance that negates the effects of ninjutsu. What if Obito is redeemed and he can revive Sakura?

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:10 PM

I read that yin-yang release is the combo of yin release and yang release. I thought the techniques just had to do with the chakra types.

Get this - I was just reading Narutopedia, and it said that Obito used yin-yang release to create the substance that negates the effects of ninjutsu. What if Obito is redeemed and he can revive Sakura?

Sakura's dead .?


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:25 PM

Imagine that happening :D, i will enjoy it ^_^.

Btw, something to think talk about ...

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What? I don't even...

 

Oh boy, it's hell of fun when someone bring those arguments up. :P

 

Kishimoto's trying to tell us something...

did Madara really use the Susano ? And how did he obtain it ? What do you need to have the Susano?

 

Yes, Madara can use more the a "regular" Susano, he can use a perfect version of it which has pretty much the size of a Bijuu. Even the five Hokages couldn't do anything against it.

 

According to Itachi, one has to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan power in both of his eyes in order to use Susanoo which represents the third Mangekyou Sharingan ability.

 

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Sakura's dead .?

 

I think she meant Rin.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:42 PM

I was seeing a little of the Jiraiya special episode from a years ago. I had forgotten how much Pierrot teased the relationship between Jiraiya and Tsunade back then.

 

You had Jiraiya already asking Tsunade on a date just after they met, and there was a scene where kid Jiraiya was motivated to get stronger so he could impress her. Then there's a scene during the old ninja war in which Tsunade asks him to settle down in the village instead of traveling, showing that she misses having him around. Such a tsundere thing of her. And just as the war ended Tsunade once again asks him what he'll do, and Jiraiya says that it's his destiny to travel. She asks if he's sure about that and when he says that it is Tsunade closes her eyes in reluctant acceptance and agrees.

 

I don't know about the rest of you but this special leaves me with the impression that if Jiraiya had never gone to travel and stayed in Konoha that he and Tsunade would've definitely gotten together. The couple that should've been but wasn't because their life paths kept them separated from each other.

 

Weirdly enough Pierrot referred to the war in which the sannin participated in as the 3rd one, but it actually was during the 2nd great ninja war. I guess that's a little hiccup that will be there forever.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:32 PM

I understand about part 1 days but when looking back, honestly, it wasn't the worst that mankind ever seen. It's more like hard to believe Naruto moments for Sakura since she believed that Naruto was a jerk, which let's face it he was. I don't know, I have seen worse and it's a bit understandable since she's 12. If she was older like the current age or older, then well, it's not so easy to forgive. Oh well.

I do agree with you about the first impression is the last. This is author's challenge because if you plan to do something "risky" fans would hate him/her to the very end. It's sad but it can't be helped.

 

 

Partly yes , mostly , no . If you recall Kakashi's words ''Girl at that age think more about love than ninjustu'' and that was true since chasing after Sasuke was her ''goal'' to fix her insecurities ,or that is what she thought anyway . That Sasuke came first most of the time its correct , but her inner tsundere always liked Naruto despite her words in chapter 3 . And since then she began caring for him as equally as Sasuke, heck there  times where Naruto was above Sasuke on her list like the first  chuunin exam test .

That she was selfish , yep, i  totally agree , she kind of begged SAsuke to stay for her and offered to leave the village despite the fact that Naruto saved her , well , she ''loves'' Sasuke so Naruto was left on the bench :pinch: .
I wonder why kishi didn't make her thank Naruto or something after she heard the news from Sasuke ? Building on for later?

Well, that part with her ''love'' for Sasuke is the main reason 2/3 of the western fandom hates her , this part of her character has been nothing but detrimental ..

For me it was, and to get things worse there was, back and forth.

There are a lot of moments were Sakura "acknowledge" Naruto but then later completely dismiss like the Gaara part where she goes to thank Sasuke.

And many other moments.

Naruto's love for Sakura was unjustificable on part 1 because no matter what he did, Sakura only had eyes on Sasuke and all her affection was towards him, example everytime Naruto was at the hospital she was nowhere to be seen (take out the ending), meanwhile she was there feeding Sasuke, she even compete with Ino to be the first to visit Sasuke on the hospital.
Naruto got no love or affection from Sakura.

 

It only helped to Naruto's closed minded about why he thinks she only loves Sasuke, he always get surprised when she show affection to him, example feeding scene, he got totally surprised when she said she was going to feed him, the hug moment where he was pratically in shock, the "i love you" where totally caught him by surprise.

He believes he is not that(on the same level or higher than Sasuke) important to Sakura and still does because Sai downplayed Sakura's confession to look like she was doing that for Sasuke with words like "it's because she loves him too much that she wants to end it by herself and the ""she never planned to confess at first place"".


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:50 PM

For me it was, and to get things worse there was, back and forth.

There are a lot of moments were Sakura "acknowledge" Naruto but then later completely dismiss like the Gaara part where she goes to thank Sasuke.

And many other moments.

Naruto's love for Sakura was unjustificable on part 1 because no matter what he did, Sakura only had eyes on Sasuke and all her affection was towards him, example everytime Naruto was at the hospital she was nowhere to be seen (take out the ending), meanwhile she was there feeding Sasuke, she even compete with Ino to be the first to visit Sasuke on the hospital.
Naruto got no love or affection from Sakura.

 

It only helped to Naruto's closed minded about why he thinks she only loves Sasuke, he always get surprised when she show affection to him, example feeding scene, he got totally surprised when she said she was going to feed him, the hug moment where he was pratically in shock, the "i love you" where totally caught him by surprise.

He believes he is not that(on the same level or higher than Sasuke) important to Sakura and still does because Sai downplayed Sakura's confession to look like she was doing that for Sasuke with words like "it's because she loves him too much that she wants to end it by herself and the ""she never planned to confess at first place"".

The Gaara part she didn't knew what happened until she asked Sasuke , assuming he saved her it was probably an approach to woo him , but after learning the truth however she gave Naruto one of those warm smiles which she only gives to him. The fact that she was fixiated on Sasuke remains .Nevertheless when she was out of it she mumbled/whispered Naruto's name not Sasuke's .  The dismissing part , i dont know why , but maybe later to be brought up .. :pinch:

The hospital part is true not up for debate , but after the Sasuke's retrieval Arc the boy she went to see was not the one she confessed to ,but the one who understood her the most.

Yep.

Sai's words are grasped on till this day and some people tend to use them especially SS fans , but we all know that's not the reason . There is a lot of contradictory in Sai's words which lead to misconception and deception on our behalf as well.
And maybe that's why we got Kushina's foreshadowing .

 


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:52 PM

To each of their own. I will reread once the arc ends. That is if it ever will. Lol.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:53 PM

All that really matters is that there is an abundance of evidence and development and clues (parallels, foreshadows) hinting NaruSaku stuff by the end compared to the scarce amount of development for NH and especially SS. The other 2 just have too many issues now, SS is near done, NH can only salvage so much before it becomes outright ridiculous compared to what we have seen in the past, just too much missed opportunity and not enough follow up with what exists for NH, thats its biggest downfall and main reason why it wont go canon. SS is self explanatory when he left the village. NS though, it has everything. I can only see Naruto succeeding and Sakura coming to love him one part of their respective end developments.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 08:21 PM

Sai's words was completely contradicting because first he said she did it out of Love for Sasuke and then he said she is doing it to relieve the burden off of Naruto's shoulders, it was clear that she did it to relieve Naruto of his burden because thats all she was thinking about was Naruto and how much she hurt him she didn't think once about her "love for Sasuke"  what makes no sense is why would she kill the man she loves romantically (Sasuke) for just a friend(Naruto) ? The answer is simple its because she loves Naruto more and even more romantically its been aparrent ever sicne Naruto came back from the two year training with Jairaya . Imo the reason why she didn't kill Sasuke also was because of the fact that Naruto wanted him to come back for team 7 as well , if it wasn't for those words she probably would have had a easier time at attempting to Kill Sasuke because from what I see , she gave up on Sasuke a while ago ever since she saw how much Naruto would go through for her. 


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