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[Chucky-kun]

I've noticed that NaruHina/SasuSaku fans have said that when Sasuke thanked Sakura when he deceased the village it had some romantic intention. They've said that this statement proves that Sasuke did have some feelings toward Sakura in one way or another. But when I first read this chapter I saw nothing romantic but only platonic.
I've been called an idiot for thinking that Sasuke's "thank you" was a romantic moment for SasuSaku, in I don't think it can be classed as a SS moment at all.
But when Sakura hugged Naruto (romantically) and thanked him it was only a friendship hug and was not ment to be romantic. When clearly it was supposed to be a NaruSaku moment.
In Japan someone doesn't hug some in that manner without romantic intention, so it was not a simple friendship hug.

In western cultures, people hug all the time, i guess thats why they think narusaku hugs aren't significant.

[PhenixElite]

There is a huge difference between just flaming and criticizing someone as an author.

Most people feel Sakura didn't get enough development, I mention a few things that could have been done way back that would have given Sakura more importance but instead, her development seems to have been dropped in favor of Sasuke ( http://www.narusaku....s...st&p=420628 )

If people were saying "Kishi sucks just because." "Kishi doesn't know how to write, he ruined the manga.", then that is pretty useless criticism, if that's even considered criticism.

Everyone is pointing our specifically that they feel Kishi should have done more with Sakura and could have done more with her past development. Most people here don't agree with his idea of a heroine and wishes that he would step up the game and give Sakura the spotlight she needs. And lastly, most people here WANT Kishi to do better, they aren't 'flaming' him to keep him down. I personally want Kishi to improve on Sakura's character because she needs it. It's nothing but criticism.

Just because you don't agree with what others are saying does not mean that they are trolls or flamers. No one here is calling each other names and no one has called Kishi names either. It's discussion.



I don't want Sasuke to die for the sake of NS becoming canon. NS doesn't need Sasuke to die to become canon. If NS becomes canon only because Sasuke dies, I will be disappointed. Sakura should have to choose who she wants, not only have 1 choice because the other option is gone.

There has been enough flaming and trolling in the last few pages so my opinion in that matter didnt change.
Also i still dont see something that proofs that kishi neglected sakuras character in the story.
Just because shes not fighting and has no special power does not mean that she didnt get enough development, thats just bullsh**.

Kishi decided to show her character as one whos based on romance not just fighting.
She got a lot kf development through naruto in the story and is ment to overcome her old feelings for sasuke an realize her feelings for the main character. So i see no point in raging just because shes not shown often during an arc.
She had a lot to do in every other arc till now.

[Canadian_DJ]

Also, talking about foreshadowing. Dunno, I may read too much into it, but has anyone observed how Naruto's costume in Kurama Mode is similar with Sakura's costume in Part 1, with those circles and stuff?
The only difference is that his circles are connected and the one on the back is higher, while Sakura's was more on the bottom.
However, if you get the one on the bottom up and unify them, it looks exactly like Naruto's outfit.
Do you think I am reading too much into it? (might be as it's not the first time I read too much into things, heh )

Yeah i realized that too and if yiu go to icha icha narusaku go check i made a thread discussing this go check it out.



man.....luffy....i didn't expect this.....look dude no ones forcing their opinions on others, so why should you? look all i gotta say is bo one really knows for sure what kishi is planning but man your just taking things on a whole new level, in all honesty i think kishi is doing great with sakuras character, and he's definetly gonna still develope her character, and as kishi stated in an interview and i quote "As we"d expect from that speech sakura loved sasuke.Naruto's close".Im not sure how many of you acrually read the official translation not thr biased one changed by the SS and NH fans.And in another interview kishi said, and i qoute again "I felt like depicting (or however you spell that word) a suprisingly honest, deermined girl" or something along those lines just go read nostradamus's ultimate rant, anyways guys honestly this is being dragged out way too long, its been 13-16 pages on this debate qbout the same friggin' topic, so how bout we call it a day eh?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Which reminds of the movie, in which sasuke gives sakura a rose but the rose is withering with the time symbolizing her love for him that is dying with the time.

[Chucky-kun]

Which reminds of the movie, in which sasuke gives sakura a rose but the rose is withering with the time symbolizing her love for him that is dying with the time.

whered you get this scene? I'm not doubting you, just that is there an actual clip?

[luffyq1]

Yeah i realized that too and if yiu go to icha icha narusaku go check i made a thread discussing this go check it out.



man.....luffy....i didn't expect this.....look dude no ones forcing their opinions on others, so why should you? look all i gotta say is bo one really knows for sure what kishi is planning but man your just taking things on a whole new level, in all honesty i think kishi is doing great with sakuras character, and he's definetly gonna still develope her character, and as kishi stated in an interview and i quote "As we"d expect from that speech sakura loved sasuke.Naruto's close".Im not sure how many of you acrually read the official translation not thr biased one changed by the SS and NH fans.And in another interview kishi said, and i qoute again "I felt like depicting (or however you spell that word) a suprisingly honest, deermined girl" or something along those lines just go read nostradamus's ultimate rant, anyways guys honestly this is being dragged out way too long, its been 13-16 pages on this debate qbout the same friggin' topic, so how bout we call it a day eh?

"Look dude no ones forcing their opinions on others, so why should you?" You and I both know that's god near impossible. Some people in here simply don't want to talk about the blatant negative aspect of Sakura's character. It's all NS positivity and endgame. Boring.

"But man your just taking things on a whole new level?" By whole new level, do you mean bringing up thought provoking new topics to this so called debate that's been kept under the rug? If so, then I suppose this is a whole new level.

"In all honestly i think Kishi is doing great with sakuras character?" That's nice, but others certainly don't think so. Sorry if you and many others think that Sakura's character development is so beautiful because it pertains to NS.

"And he's definetly gonna still develope her character"? Well duh. It's a matter of when that development is actually going to arrive, and how much the quality of that development will be satisfactory to us the readers, and Kishi's years of negligence to her.

The rest of your rambling is centerned around SS & NS development which I already touched on a little bit in the start of this post, and I say touched on a little bit because I honestly want more from Sakura other than SS & NS related. But obviously some of the users in here only care about Sakura being used as a pucnhing bag to SS & NS, and therefore deem her character development to be marvelous. No thnx.

Edited by luffyq1, 14 December 2012 - 11:45 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

whered you get this scene? I'm not doubting you, just that is there an actual clip?

Movie i think one of the trailers shows it, she receiving a rose from sasuke later they show the rose complete withered.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 December 2012 - 11:33 AM.

[Zatheko]

I'll be sleeping now. So I will leave this to you guys:

If and after Sasuke dies, would you be satisfy with NS being canon? I can't help but to connect to Inuyasha. I was late to the party of this kind of turn of event. If you don't know what I mean, well point is that to make one canon, kill one person from the love triangle. Share your thoughts.

It will look bad for sakura if the only reason she chooses naruto is because sasuke is dead, hopefully she comes to her decision before such a thing happens.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It will look bad for sakura if the only reason she chooses naruto is because sasuke is dead, hopefully she comes to her decision before such a thing happens.

Well.. the problem that way before sasuke is bad she showed feelings for Naruto.
this arguments is way ridiculous because if we follow this logic then there's nothing romantic on this manga because kushina fell in love with minato just because he saved her.

[Zatheko]

Well.. the problem that way before sasuke is bad she showed feelings for Naruto.
this arguments is way ridiculous because if we follow this logic then there's nothing romantic on this manga because kushina fell in love with minato just because he saved her.

Kushina falling for minato for him saving her is way different from sakura falling for naruto because sasuke is now out of the picture. Sakura HAS to know her feelings before sauske dies, or else its gonna be like naruto is the silver medal, the runner up.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kushina falling for minato for him saving her is way different from sakura falling for naruto because sasuke is now out of the picture. Sakura HAS to know her feelings before sauske dies, or else its gonna be like naruto is the silver medal, the runner up.

Is not, she fell in love because he recognized him as the amazing shinobi ever, she does not need to be rejected by sasuke because of this, and moreove she recognize this on that chapter path to the radiance, while she says "we will gonna be together..."

[Zatheko]

Is not, she fell in love because he recognized him as the amazing shinobi ever, she does not need to be rejected by sasuke because of this, and moreove she recognize this on that chapter path to the radiance, while she says "we will gonna be together..."

I never said anything about sasuke rejecting her feelings, I said that she needs to figure out her feelings on her OWN. If she still loves sasuke and then sasuke dies than all of a sudden sakura turns to naruto what will it looks like? It will look like he was chosen because she has no other option.

So yes, it is different form kushina and minato because there is no third party, just those two, kushina wasn't in love with someone else before she loved minato.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I never said anything about sasuke rejecting her feelings, I said that she needs to figure out her feelings on her OWN. If she still loves sasuke and then sasuke dies than all of a sudden sakura turns to naruto what will it looks like? It will look like he was chosen because she has no other option.

So yes, it is different form kushina and minato because there is no third party, just those two, kushina wasn't in love with someone else before she loved minato.

Kushina had little backstory, and naruto asked how she fall in love with minato he didnt asked if she loved someome else, this ends here because the rest is based on assumptions.

Well tell me then how she can say i love you to naruto without without looking like she did not choose him because sasuke is a bad person?
It's impossible, even the lover-nin will enforce it.
This will be one of the reasons of why she will choose Naruto, it's inevitable.

she has no other option.
if she has no other option she should be single then because tsunade had any other option adn she choose to be single than being with jiraya, we have a fact that is she has feelings for Naruto, and the other is Naruto is unable to confess himself for reasons and what i'm thinking is the Obi/Rin being bought up and forces naruto to make his move on Sakura instead of keeping his emotions to himself 4ever.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 December 2012 - 12:24 PM.

[Zatheko]

Kushina had little backstory, and naruto asked how she fall in love with minato he didnt asked if she loved someome else, this ends here because the rest is based on assumptions.

Well tell me then how she can say i love you to naruto without without looking like she did not choose him because sasuke is a bad person?
It's impossible.

It's not impossible, if she comes to terms with her feelings for him BEFORE they confront sasuke, than it is her choosing him while she still has a choice. She has to make the choice while it is still considered a choice know what I mean? It's not a choice if one person is already dead, it's only her own choice if they are both stilll around.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's not impossible, if she comes to terms with her feelings for him BEFORE they confront sasuke, than it is her choosing him while she still has a choice. She has to make the choice while it is still considered a choice know what I mean? It's not a choice if one person is already dead, it's only her own choice if they are both stilll around.

If she comes with terms of her feelings, she will think that sasuke is a bad person, and will be one of the reasons.
it's unable to avoid this, to come with terms with her feelings she will have to think about sasuke, his attitude, his reason, naruto, naruto attitude towards her and everything that happened with her naruto and sasuke.

Even with sasuke redeemed it cannot be avoided.

And moreover NS does not depends only on Sakura it depends on Naruto too(he needs to confess).

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 December 2012 - 12:29 PM.

[Zatheko]

If she comes with terms of her feelings, she will think that sasuke is a bad person, and will be one of the reasons.
it's unable to avoid this, to come with terms with her feelings she will have to think about sasuke, his attitude, his reason, naruto, naruto attitude towards her and everything that happened with her naruto and sasuke.

Even with sasuke redeemed it cannot be avoided.

Still at least it's actual her CHOOSING naruto over sasuke. I'd rather her have a choice in the matter of who she ends up with, not forced into a situation because one is gone.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Still at least it's actual her CHOOSING naruto over sasuke. I'd rather her have a choice in the matter of who she ends up with, not forced into a situation because one is gone.

OMG she is not forced to choose naruto, she cant be single cant she?
You talk like it's sasuke or naruto like there's no option for her.
If she thinks that she cant be paired with sasuke because of a lot of reasons she does not need to choose Naruto just because Sasuke is not a good guy.
therefore it will be one of the reasons for it.
Sasuke not a good guy she wont choose sasuke for it, and the reason because she will choose naruto is because of her feelings for him, So the fact that sasuke is a bad person + her feelings for naruto = She chooses naruto acknowledging her feelings for him.
Only Sasuke a bad person = Sakura single.

it cannot be avoided.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 December 2012 - 12:34 PM.

[Zatheko]

OMG she is not forced to choose naruto, she cant be single cant she?
You talk like it's sasuke or naruto like there's no option for her.
If she thinks that she cant be paired with sasuke because of a lot of reasons she does not need to choose Naruto just because Sasuke is not a good guy.
therefore it will be one of the reasons for it.
Sasuke not a good guy she wont choose sasuke for it, and the reason because she will choose naruto is because of her feelings for him, So the fact that sasuke is a bad person + her feelings for naruto = NS canon.
Only Sasuke a bad person = Sakura single.

Were talking about her ending up with naruto aren't we? So why bring up that she can be alone?

All I'm saying is that it should be HER choice that she picks naruto over sasuke, If you don't agree with freedom of choice then fine, but no need to get annoyed by it. I just want whats best for both naruto and sakura, and what i mentioned will look better for sakura as a character then what you mentioned.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Were talking about her ending up with naruto aren't we? So why bring up that she can be alone?

All I'm saying is that it should be HER choice that she picks naruto over sasuke, If you don't agree with freedom of choice then fine, but no need to get annoyed by it. I just want whats best for both naruto and sakura, and what i mentioned will look better for sakura as a character then what you mentioned.

As an example because you said that sasuke being a bad person cannot be a reason for her to be paired with Naruto, just because you said it would be forced.

SO i made an example, if she didnt had feelings for naruto she would be single because sasuke is a bad person.
But since she has feelings for Naruto, the result will not be "sakura single" this will made her comes to terms with her feelings in other words, sasuke's bad behavior will force her to come with terms with her feelings and she will choose naruto because she acknowledge her feelings for him, leading to a conclusion of instead of being single she will be paired with Naruto.

In other words Sasuke being a bad person will be one of the reasons of why she will choose Naruto over Sasuke directly or indirectly.
It cannot be avoided.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 December 2012 - 12:40 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Were talking about her ending up with naruto aren't we? So why bring up that she can be alone?

All I'm saying is that it should be HER choice that she picks naruto over sasuke, If you don't agree with freedom of choice then fine, but no need to get annoyed by it. I just want whats best for both naruto and sakura, and what i mentioned will look better for sakura as a character then what you mentioned.

I have the feeling that she will recognize her feelings during the battle between naruto and sasuke, so that theres also the option that sasuke dies. I could imagine a scene like it was also maybe a bit forshadowed in the anime(not the manga), where naruto and sasuke both are hurt badly and sakura needs to make her decision who shes going to heal.
That would be a good scene to show her change.