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[luffyq1]

You don't just chnage the main characters right smack in the middle of the story, it just makes no sense.

Lots of things do not make any sense anymore, just look at Obito for example.

[Zatheko]

Lots of things do not make any sense anymore, just look at Obito for example.

Still I really don't see him changing the main characters at all, no matter what hes been known for.

[swagosaurus]

I didn't have a problem with Obito, but a lot of people did, and a lot of people complained.

I don't get it. Why do people b*tch and complain, over a free manga we read on the internet from a Japanese guy that doesn't know we exist?

[Zatheko]

I didn't have a problem with Obito, but a lot of people did, and a lot of people complained.

I don't get it. Why do people b*tch and complain, over a free manga we read on the internet from a Japanese guy that doesn't know we exist?

Haha yeah I don't get it either, I didn't have a problem with obito either, same with a lot of other things that people seemed to have huge problems with.

[Chatte]

Well, changing the main character is far-fetched...

[Gravenimage]

Well, changing the main character is far-fetched...

I think trying to turn Hinata into Sakura as the heroine of the series is more far-fetched just ask studio Pierot with ther latest anime episode.

[Chatte]

I think trying to turn Hinata into Sakura as the heroine of the series is more far-fetched just ask studio Pierot with ther latest anime episode.

I know that.
Studio Pierrot is sickening for me, but I'm talking Kishi here.

[luffyq1]

Guys, I understand from where Luffy is coming, seriously.

The fadom works simply, on visual impact. They don't go deep into the matters.
If for them is visually appealing (like Sasori fight) they'll respect her.

If not, they're going to bash her.

Why do you guys think Hinata got so many fans? Because she was shown to fight.

Studio Pierrot's fault, yes, however, they gave to the fandom what they needed.

That's why to them, Hinata is the heroine and Sakura's not.

I can just hope that Kishi's going to redeem Sakura on both parts, power-wise as personality-wise.

Thank you. Glad I'm not the only one who notices these things. You have my respect.

Still I really don't see him changing the main characters at all, no matter what hes been known for.

Not even to the point of where people used to question if Sasuke is the main character or not? Come on, this is Kishi we're talking about, the guy who's able to start a war, attacking villages, and almost blowing up a baby all because of a girl who did not love him died. Kishi's ridiculousness knows no bounds. Do not under any circumstances underestimate this man.

[swagosaurus]

Meh, I think Madara used the kitten out of Obito. It's almost implied Madara had something to do with Rin's death, so I wouldn't say it's all because she died. But that's beside the point.

[Chatte]

Thank you. Glad I'm not the only one who notices these things. You have my respect.

Well, I happened to work into a domain (Media) that's based on exactly what I was telling.
Visual impact.
I worked into a Media trust which had TV, News Paper and Radio and well, the requirement no. 1 is to give to the population what they need based on some psychology studies here and there.
And I love Sakura for her personality, but I wouldn't mind some power-ups for her.
Not because that would make me love her more, no, but at least we'd had something to shut the haters down with...
Meh, it's really sad, though.

[luffyq1]

Meh, I think Madara used the kitten out of Obito. It's almost implied Madara had something to do with Rin's death, so I wouldn't say it's all because she died. But that's beside the point.

I agree, Madara is probably involved with the murder of Rin. But, it does not change the fact that Rin's death had a huge, and I mean huge, impact on Obito's actions. That is something that I and many others can not swallow.

[swagosaurus]

I agree, Madara is probably involved with the murder of Rin. But, it does not change the fact that Rin's death had a huge, and I mean huge, impact on Obito's actions. That is something that I and many others can not swallow.

Well, think about it this way; the girl you're in love with, who you 'died' for, is killed right in front of you by your rival/friend/the person who promised to protect her.

I'd be pissed too. It's not completely asspull if you think about it like that, but that's just me. He doesn't want to live in a world without Rin, so he doesn't care about it anymore.

Obito, to me, is an amazing villain. But he still doesn't hold a candle to Madara's bossness.

Edited by swagosaurus, 14 December 2012 - 12:37 AM.

[redragon88]

So I take it we're discussing Sakura's status as a heroine. I'll give my two cents.

I believe Kishi has a certain story planned for her, but the fact is that unfortunately it might not fulfill the expectations some have for her as far as her role as the heroine of the story. I think in the beginning of Part 2 Kishi wanted to demonstrate her battle prowess so that the audience was aware of her level of improvement, but once that was out of the way Kishi would be able to focus mainly on Naruto and Sasuke.

I think we can all admit that sometimes on certain stories we find ourselves expecting a character to do so many different things but in the end it never happens. Sakura just happens to be a similar case.

I don't think Kishi developed Sakura while thinking about how to make her a great heroine, I think he just had in mind a certain role that she would need to fulfill regardless of how much relevance she would have as a character.

I personally believe that she'll soon have relevance again, given how she's a parallel to Rin. So if that's the case she won't become important again because Kishi feels he neglected her, she'll become important because that's when Kishi deemed it necessary for it to happen, and not a second sooner.

The way I see it Sakura wasn't created to be a heroine, she was created to fulfill a role when needed for the plot.

Edited by redragon88, 14 December 2012 - 12:52 AM.

[luffyq1]

Well, I happened to work into a domain (Media) that's based on exactly what I was telling.
Visual impact.
I worked into a Media trust which had TV, News Paper and Radio and well, the requirement no. 1 is to give to the population what they need based on some psychology studies here and there.
And I love Sakura for her personality, but I wouldn't mind some power-ups for her.
Not because that would make me love her more, no, but at least we'd had something to shut the haters down with...
Meh, it's really sad, though.

Wow, that's pretty interesting. Guess the loud fans do have some impact after all. And I feel your pain of Sakura. I'm crying on the inside

Well, think about it this way; the girl you're in love with, who you 'died' for, is killed right in front of you by your rival/friend/the person who promised to protect her.

I'd be pissed too. It's not completely asspull if you think about it like that, but that's just me. He doesn't want to live in a world without Rin, so he doesn't care about it anymore.

Obito, to me, is an amazing villain. But he still doesn't hold a candle to Madara's bossness.

I understand where you're coming from, I truly do. But Obito's actions completely and utterly outwieght his petty reasonings, and I say petty based in the world of Naruto. You realize that he disregarded his own parents existence all because of the murder of a girl, right? Tsunade has lost her precious little brother the day after his birthday and her beloved that she failed to save, and she was competely broken. But you don't see her creating terrorist organization groups, almost blowing up a baby, and so much more. Tsunade has lost so much more than Obito man. And I'm not simply going by the number of people she lost, but more of the quality of that lost. And yes, I do agree that Obito is an amazing villain, I just don't like that one particular thing about him.

Edited by luffyq1, 14 December 2012 - 12:57 AM.

[swagosaurus]

Wow, that's pretty interesting. Guess the loud fans do have some impact after all. And I feel your pain of Sakura. I'm crying on the inside


I understand where you're coming from, I truly do. But Obito's actions completely and utterly outwieght his petty reasonings, and I say petty based in the world of Naruto. You realize that he disregarded his own parents existence all because of the murder of a girl, right? Tsunade has lost her precious little brother and her beloved that she failed to save, and she was competely broken. But you don't see her creating terrorist organization groups, almost blowing up a baby, and so much more. Tsunade has lost so much more than Obito man. And I'm not simply going by the number of people she lost, but more of the quality of that lost. And yes, I do agree that Obito is an amazing villain, I just don't like that one particular thing about him.

Ah, NOW I get where you're coming from. Yeah, his reasoning sucks. I would say that another reason was him wanting to crush the shinobi world, if it was more about the mission than the comrades (Kakashi Gaiden), but meh.

I'm just hoping Kishi wraps up his Ino-Shika-Chou development ASAP.

[Zatheko]

Not even to the point of where people used to question if Sasuke is the main character or not? Come on, this is Kishi we're talking about, the guy who's able to start a war, attacking villages, and almost blowing up a baby all because of a girl who did not love him died. Kishi's ridiculousness knows no bounds. Do not under any circumstances underestimate this man.

Yeah I understand what he is known for, but I still don't want to start thinking negative when what I want to happen is still possible, I like to keep hope till the bitter end.

[luffyq1]

Ah, NOW I get where you're coming from. Yeah, his reasoning sucks. I would say that another reason was him wanting to crush the shinobi world, if it was more about the mission than the comrades (Kakashi Gaiden), but meh.

I'm just hoping Kishi wraps up his Ino-Shika-Chou development ASAP.

Same here man, same here. I know this sounds wrong, but I just want more important deaths to get that feel of an actual war.

[swagosaurus]

Same here man, same here. I know this sounds wrong, but I just want more important deaths to get that feel of an actual war.

Well, he's starting to kill off characters, plus that monstrosity of the Jubi (good god, that thing is scary) is up and about.

At the very least, I want tension; I want someone to get seriously hurt.

[Chucky-kun]

its obvious what kishi is going to do, make sasuke the main character and hinata the main heroine, then they gunna make no.1 OP clan in da world

[luffyq1]

Well, he's starting to kill off characters, plus that monstrosity of the Jubi (good god, that thing is scary) is up and about.

At the very least, I want tension; I want someone to get seriously hurt.

Yes Yes Yes Yes! My heart was literally beating so fast when I was reading the previous chapter because I knew that it was leading up to the intelligence hq deaths. I want to feel that way in the upcoming chapters. I want the Juubi to start sweeping some fodders with a simple fart. I want lots of bloodshed and a slaughter fest like we had in 605. Dear god the level of blood and gore in that chapter! I know Kishi is capable of doing such amazing things like that, so I expect him to deliver in the upcoming chapters.

Edited by luffyq1, 14 December 2012 - 01:15 AM.