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[Gravenimage]

That's bullsh** if they think Hinata and Kushina having anything in common, I even have some pictures that kinda show how Kushina and Sakura are alike in someways.

Awesome pictures toasty this is living proof of Kushina's similiarity to Sakura I just don't understand why they would say she has a similiarity with Hinata?

[Serenity Namikaze]

Awesome pictures toasty this is living proof of Kushina's similiarity to Sakura I just don't understand why they would say she has a similiarity with Hinata?

Well, when we first see Kushina ( in Jiraya vs Pein fight, I think, don't remember), she's look so calm, so angelic, so innocent so...Hinata!?

However, while Kushina is like that, she also has the other side that is less Hinata-ish and that is the part that is often forgotten. Those fans probably just remember the calm pregnant Kushina ( not to mention that she has long hair like Hinata) but they forgot about what Jiraya say about her being hot-headed and tomboyish and I think we all know the reason why, because this side is more like Sakura. However, if we take the whole picture ( and now, we can since those recent chapters), we can easily see Sakura in Kushina and vice versa.

[TheBerserkMoogle]

I suppose you're right about that Serenity. Darned long term choosing memory! Anyway, is it just me, or does Kushina have the letters Saku in it? O_o

[MangaReader]

Comparisons are always a great way for a group to find ways to support there favorite couple. In our case, it just adds more benefits. I understand the reason why NaruHina first thought that Kushina resembled Hinata, mainly because they needed this support and the viewer's weren't shown her personality, it was only mentioned by Jiraya. I love the NaruSaku-MinaKush similarities none the less

[Jenskott]

Well, when we first see Kushina ( in Jiraya vs Pein fight, I think, don't remember), she's look so calm, so angelic, so innocent so...Hinata!?

Hmm... I'm afraid I can't agree. When we first heard about Kushina, Tsunade said she was tomboyish and loved fighting. When we first saw her, she joined in the discussion without being invited in it, talking cheerfully and smiling perkily. She blushed, but she didn't seem shy or meek when she did so.

Neither Tsunade's description nor her actions back then reminded me from Hinata. And Kushina didn't look like angelic or innocent to me. Then again, neither Hinata does (Meek? Of course. Nice? As well. Well-meaning? Sure. But angelic and innocent? I don't think so).

So perhaps our outlooks are different.

[Serenity Namikaze]

Hmm... I'm afraid I can't agree. When we first heard about Kushina, Tsunade said she was tomboyish and loved fighting. When we first saw her, she joined in the discussion without being invited in it, talking cheerfully and smiling perkily. She blushed, but she didn't seem shy or meek when she did so.

Neither Tsunade's description nor her actions back then reminded me from Hinata. And Kushina didn't look like angelic or innocent to me. Then again, neither Hinata does (Meek? Of course. Nice? As well. Well-meaning? Sure. But angelic and innocent? I don't think so).

So perhaps our outlooks are different.

I never said that I agree with the fact that Hinata's resemblance with Kushina and I did say that Jiraya or Tsunade ( sorry, I really don't remember who said that) that she was tomboyish. I was just trying to see the POV of those fan and I must be honest with you, I was a little sarcastic while saying all of these trait

[Jenskott]

I never said that I agree with the fact that Hinata's resemblance with Kushina and I did say that Jiraya or Tsunade ( sorry, I really don't remember who said that) that she was tomboyish. I was just trying to see the POV of those fan and I must be honest with you, I was a little sarcastic while saying all of these trait

Haha, now I am feeling dumb.

Hmm... I believe it was said by Tsunade... but on second thought, I am not sure. It has been a while since I read the chapter and I am not going to check it now.

I guess those fans thought Kushina looked calm, and since she was long-haired, she resembled Hinata (I don't understand that. Her face's shape is way different). And then they thought they could make parallels with NH, comparing Minato with Naruto and Kushina with Hinata, in order to create a new pro-NH argument.

It wasn'a good tactic, because it was proved later on Kushina resembles Sakura. However, those disheartened fans tried recycling the useless, meaningless argument, comparing Kushina with Naruto and Minato with Hinata.

And again, it isn't a good argument, because Kushina resembles both Naruto and Sakura whereas Minato doesn't resemble Hinata at all (right like Naruto resembles Nawaki and Dan. Back then, SS fans argued than Naruto was like Nawaki and Sasuke like Dan, hence Sakura saw Naruto like her brother and Sasuke like her boyfriend. It didn't make sense because Naruto resembles Nawaki and Dan, but Dan doesn't resemble Sasuke at all).

Drawing parallelysms between several situations from one show can be an amusing exercise, but it shouldn't be used in order to prove future developments because they can go either way.

[Gravenimage]

There is no similiarity between Kushina and Hinata none, if they have something in common bother were captured by Kumo and that's just a coicindence. Kumo was probably keeing tabs on Konoha to find potential ninjas to become part of their army just like they are interested in the byakugan. But seriously if the deny that Kushina has a similiarity to Sakura and they assume its Hinata then let them think like that, they used it as way to feed their denial.

[Insurrection]

You see what fillers do to some people.

Oh and um...... CYCLE!!!!

[TheBerserkMoogle]

Filler bad!

[dokueki(venom)]

I saw that comparison between Minato and Hinata. Yes Naruto resembles his mother that is true so does Sakura. Naruto also resembles his father in a big way as well. Don't forget the braveness and never quit attitude. Okay that is all I going to say before I start making no sense of what I am talking about.

[.Clover.]

I this part of the world nhers are saying

Kushina = Naruto because Jiraiya says
Minato = Hinata, because both are calm and nice..

If every who is calm and nice is like Minato then the HakuNaru, SandaimeNaru, SaiNaru, KakashiNaru, YuugoNaru, KurenaiNaru, etc etc etc are similar to MinaKushi then have chances to be canon

In other way, they are saying that see similarities between NS and MK is fool and make NS look like and edipo's complex, but they are clearly desperate to find the parallel for their pairing no matters what.

Edited by .Clover., 29 June 2010 - 05:40 PM.

[TheBerserkMoogle]

Thing is, parallels don't make a couple canon. Development makes canon! Even if the NH people won on parallel, we'd kick their butts in couple development.

[.Clover.]

Thing is, parallels don't make a couple canon.

I know, but explain it to them .. This statement you say is true for them when is addressed to NaruSaku, but the parallel NaruHina = Minakushi is always a NH "clue"

Anyways im tired of that.. in my part of the world, anti-ns still messing with the "false confession". Im sure you discussed this, but.. is the only thing they have.

1 - They say Naruto doesnt love Sakura anymore cause he "lied" to him.. (Naruto still loving Sasuke as a friend after he done more awful things to him and will hate Sakura for a lie )

2 - They are bilnded with the Sais dialoge "she will kill him because she loves him".. and for they its mean Sakura loves Sasuke more than Naruto (lol), and she will never fall for Naruto. I would like to bring you some qoutes, but all of this are in spanish

I will never understand the part where the attemptes of murder are related to pure and eternal love, but they say so

What do you think?

Edited by .Clover., 29 June 2010 - 06:42 PM.

[crazyefra]

I think that they really have a combination of the hate towards Sakura and the fanaticism for Sasuke and how he deserves everything no matter how bad his crimes are.

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[TheBerserkMoogle]

I know it's to help explain them, and you're right. But like I said, parallels don't make a couple canon. With the whole lie thing, I really don't see Naruto as the type of person who holds a grudge. Besides, the only reason she lied was to protect Naruto right? I mean, she keeps going on and on about how she can only contribute the little things. She wants to protect Naruto, and in this way she can coax him into coming home, and then do for him like he's always been trying to do for her. Besides, who knows? This "lie" could've actually been a way of disclosing to Naruto her true feelings in a way that's so obvious, it's not actually real. Why else would she have that look of guilt when he was chastising her about lying? With the whole killing because she loves him part and that proving SS? Sure. Let's go with that for a sec. The girl standing over the boy whom she apparently loves, holding a kunai that is covered in the boys blood. The boy is dead. That's the perfect couple! They're gonna get married on a hill in a small chapel with the corpse standing up in a coffin with bugs flying around it and Sasuke decomposing, it's gonna be the best day EVAR! [/sarcasm] Anyway, with the part that she'll never fall in love with Naruto and that she'll always lub Sasuke, let's go over the facts. Naruto and sakura have hugged how many times? Like a million maybe? Sakura and Sasuke've only hugged once, and that's when she grabbed him and begged him to not leave, he didn't even return it. He's just like, "Oh, I don't give a crap about your feelings Sakura, I'm a selfish bastard that would rather have power! Teehee." Plus Naruto and Sakura almost kissed once. (Damned diahrea! D:) Doesn't actually help that he was in the guise of Sasuke, but it does prove that Naruto could still kick Sasuke's butt when the only jutsu he had was Multi Shadow Clones!

[.Clover.]

I think that they really have a combination of the hate towards Sakura and the fanaticism for Sasuke and how he deserves everything no matter how bad his crimes are

You and I can tell from the naruhuana forum how many people we see wishing Sasuke as savior of the world, being Hokage after Naruto´s death and having lotz of children with Sakura . I love Sasuke, but he is deified as much as Hinata, or even more.

Besides, the only reason she lied was to protect Naruto right?

I think so, she did it for Naruto. Sai said (xD) it so, but they are obsessed with the part "because she can't see him sinking in darkness she will kill him, because she love him"

If you ask me, its sound like she will sacrifice a rabid dog. I Dont see love beyond the understanding anywhere, just a girl who is trying to finish the suffering of his friend. And killing him also is a way to move on of her crush, cause if Sasuke die, she will never be with him

In the other hand, I also see the Sai saying like a "reproach" to Narutos way to act towards Sasuke´s problem. He is saying this like "look Sakura who loves him, she is mature and know Sasuke is more a danger than a friend, DO SOMETHING TOO".. This is how I see this the first time... but the fandom.. they freak me out..

The girl standing over the boy whom she apparently loves, holding a kunai that is covered in the boys blood. The boy is dead. That's the perfect couple! They're gonna get married on a hill in a small chapel with the corpse standing up in a coffin with bugs flying around it and Sasuke decomposing, it's gonna be the best day EVAR! [/sarcasm]

Their strong argument is that Sakura couldnt kill him.. so she is not ready to let him go. This could be true, but she couldnt let him go yet as a friend too, not only as a lover.

And although she could not do that.. she agreed without hesitation when all of her colleagues agreed to kill Sasuke. Even Ino had more opposition than her. And meanwhile Naruto and Kakashi didnt want to harm Sasuke, Sakura actually tried.

Anyway, with the part that she'll never fall in love with Naruto and that she'll always lub Sasuke, let's go over the facts. Naruto and sakura have hugged how many times? Like a million maybe? Sakura and Sasuke've only hugged once, and that's when she grabbed him and begged him to not leave, he didn't even return it. He's just like, "Oh, I don't give a crap about your feelings Sakura, I'm a selfish bastard that would rather have power! Teehee." Plus Naruto and Sakura almost kissed once. (Damned diahrea! D:) Doesn't actually help that he was in the guise of Sasuke, but it does prove that Naruto could still kick Sasuke's butt when the only jutsu he had was Multi Shadow Clones!

I think its more than just how many times they hugged, I think it has more to see with the story itself. Even Kishimoto say Sakuras love towards Sasuke was selfish and childish. And having aside the fact he never loves her, Sasuke rejected her romantics feelings in pursuit of revenge long time ago and try to kill her FOUR TIMES, and Sakura try TWO. SasuSaku doesnt have any sense to me..

In the other hand, I see Sakura getting closer and closer to Naruto and Kishimoto doing increasingly unbelievable things to make Naruto look like his is ignoring all of this. I think NS, if it will be canon, it will be at the very end, but I see this couple with many more possibilities than SasuSaku

See ya

please dont punch me if you see so many sintaxsis errors... im just trying to do my best with this foreign (to me) language

Edited by .Clover., 29 June 2010 - 07:56 PM.

[Toasty Warrior]

As far as I could see even after Sakura's confession in 469 and when Naruto rescued her in 484, I don't see how he held any malice towards Sakura for her confession, in fact knowing Naruto he's probably either forgotten about it or he's just pushed it to the back of his mind to focus on more important things.