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[Kasimir38]

Maybe Sasuke loved Sakura. Just thought about it a while ago. Loving someone doesn't always means that you are willed to sacrifice yourself for this person, or to show gratitude and kindness. Sometimes it is just a feeling... Like attraction. I feel like this is what Sasuke's "love" to Sakura is meant.

And maybe Naruto doesn't love her. Maybe his crush on Sakura was just a running gag and she was never more important to him than Kiba.

[jak123]

Maybe Sasuke loved Sakura. Just thought about it a while ago. Loving someone doesn't always means that you are willed to sacrifice yourself for this person, or to show gratitude and kindness. Sometimes it is just a feeling... Like attraction. I feel like this is what Sasuke's "love" to Sakura is meant.

And maybe Naruto doesn't love her. Maybe his crush on Sakura was just a running gag and she was never more important to him than Kiba.

Except there's so many examples that shows the opposite. Sakura's love for Sasuke was just a crush and her love for Naruto was genuine. Just like Naruto's love for Sakura. No one goes to the ends of the Earth for a crush.

[ThroughWithLove]

Something just occurred to me. Not sure if anyone has ever brought up this point before about NS. Maybe they have. But I'm going to.

 

You know how it's always said that Sasuke is Naruto's best friend? Why do they say that, and where does that idea even come from? Sasuke left the village pretty quickly. After that point, he spends all of his time around Sakura. In Dragon Ball, Goku goes through several different best friends. At first it's Bulma. Then it becomes Krillin, and IMO, it ended up becoming Vegeta at the end. So... Shouldn't his best friend spot have switched to Sakura? But it didn't. Why didn't it? Because she was the love interest. He didn't view her as a friend. So Sasuke remains, and always would remain, his best friend, as a rule.

 

If NS truly wasn't the intention, it would have been stated, at least once, that Sakura was his best friend, which is something that never happens. Even if this idea was inaccurate because of Naruto's strong feelings about Sasuke. Some character would have stated it or at least implied it. Whether or not they would have been corrected is not relevant. But the idea of them doing so did not enter Kishi's head because he was supposed to be with Sakura. Every single other character views their relationship as potentially romantic because he was supposed to be with Sakura.

 

There are just so many angles you can use where what happened just looks wrong. I really believe the only way to accept the ending is to just not have an open mind about it.

Whenever I listened to this opening, I always got the subliminal impression that it was about Naruto and Sakura as opposed to Naruto and Sasuke. Just look at the lyrics and look carefully at the parts with Sakura.

 

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Maybe Sasuke loved Sakura. Just thought about it a while ago. Loving someone doesn't always means that you are willed to sacrifice yourself for this person, or to show gratitude and kindness. Sometimes it is just a feeling... Like attraction. I feel like this is what Sasuke's "love" to Sakura is meant.
And maybe Naruto doesn't love her. Maybe his crush on Sakura was just a running gag and she was never more important to him than Kiba.

Except that he himself says he sees no reason to love her and no reason for her to love him. Its not even a matter of sacrificing for her, it's a matter of him not acting like a decent human being to her.

[James S Cassidy]

You know what's even funnier about Minato saying "Take care of my son?"
NH did this bullcrap with Naruto, Hinata, and Neji.

Neji said to Naruto "Take care of Hinata" basically in those words. It's funny how two scenes almost exactly alike with the same context with one being "romantic" and the other being "not." Even though the NS one has the word "girlfriend" thrown in there.

This is that kind of stupidity.

Again, if NS does it...it doesn't count, but if NH does it...it is 100% proof.

Also keep in mind that this scene occured DURING the production of Naruto the Last.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 February 2018 - 10:49 PM.

[DrK]

You know what's even funnier about Minato saying "Take care of my son?"
NH did this bullcrap with Naruto, Hinata, and Neji.

Neji said to Naruto "Take care of Hinata" basically in those words. It's funny how two scenes almost exactly alike with the same context with one being "romantic" and the other being "not." Even though the NS one has the word "girlfriend" thrown in there.

This is that kind of stupidity.

Again, if NS does it...it doesn't count, but if NH does it...it is 100% proof.

Also keep in mind that this scene occured DURING the production of Naruto the Last.

So... Of Neji and Naruto's father, both of whom were going to be dead forever pretty soon, the one who had more authority was Neji? A slave Hyuga? Not the 4th Hokage? Naruto's friend, not Naruto's father? Does that make any sense at all either?

[James S Cassidy]

So... Of Neji and Naruto's father, both of whom were going to be dead forever pretty soon, the one who had more authority was Neji? A slave Hyuga? Not the 4th Hokage? Naruto's friend, not Naruto's father? Does that make any sense at all either?

Apparently. Remember, this is Hinata we are talking about. Whatever she does it is 100% important.

If Sakura saves Naruto's life, it is just friends and teammates helping each other. If Hinata "saves" Naruto's life, it is 1000% romantic and justified.
If Sasuke, Sakura, Neji, or anyone else blocks an attack on Naruto it is not because they care about him or love him or anything. If Hinata does it, Naruto has to see it as true love.
If Naruto turns into a tailed beast because of Sasuke or Sakura, it is not because he cares or loves them. If he turns into a tailed beast for Hinata it means he truly loves her with all his heart and he is confessing his love for her.

This is the logic that all pro-enders play by. They live this logic. They breath it. I wouldn't be surprised if they make love to it.

To them, the ONLY person who cares about Naruto is Hinata. Noone else apparently gives a rats ass.
 

[DrK]

Apparently. Remember, this is Hinata we are talking about. Whatever she does it is 100% important.

If Sakura saves Naruto's life, it is just friends and teammates helping each other. If Hinata "saves" Naruto's life, it is 1000% romantic and justified.

It really pisses me off. This idea that Naruto would just casually move on without being hurt by the absence of Sakura. This idea that Naruto would just let Sakura be kittening miserable because of Sasuke without even TRYING to find a way that she could be happy. This idea that Sakura would just forget about Naruto, stop talking to him, want to leave Konoha, when he meant so much to her. This idea that Naruto, Naruto's happiness, his dream, didn't mean everything to Sakura.

 

All this happened because of Hinata. Because Hinata is so great. It's bull. She isn't that great. No one is great enough to justify this. This crime against humanity. Against the human soul.

 

I really don't like thinking about it. But I will have to at least one more time, cause I have to write about the POAL later. But after that, I'm gonna be done with this thread, at least. But nothing I discussed will ever be done. It'll never be finished. Kishi will always have left everything in this disgusting, offensive state of affairs. And that's the worst part. That's the part that pisses me off the most.

 

Oh well. Some good things came from it, I suppose. I doubt I would actually have cared enough to write this thread if he had actually done what he was supposed to, for instance. So it's not all bad. Just most of it is.

Edited by DrK, 16 February 2018 - 03:49 AM.

[Phantom_999]

The *sigh* Minato scene.
 



 
What happens in this scene? Yes, that's really all there is to this. Sakura is healing Naruto. Minato arrives and asks if she's Naruto's girlfriend. Naruto says yes after some hesitation. Sakura punishes him for this in a comical fashion. Minato notes the resemblance to Kushina, with associated flashback, and tells her to take care of his son. It's not clear if she agreed to this or even acknowledged the comment.

 

Minato, for future reference, is Naruto's DEAD father, who he will never see again after today.
 
What is the significance of this? Okay, let's start at the beginning. What is happening? Naruto is being healed by Sakura. Minato, for some reason, when seeing this scene, gets the idea that this kunoichi is an important person to Naruto, and not just some random medical ninja. There is no reason to think he knew she was his teammate at all. So... WHY does he get that idea? Who knows, but Kishimoto had him get that idea. Very strange decision given the ending.
 
Minato asks if Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend. Minato, for some reason, when seeing this scene, gets the idea that Sakura isn't merely an important person to Naruto, but actually his love interest. Actually, not a mere love interest. His actual girlfriend. Why does he get this idea? Who knows, but Kishimoto decided to do this as well. Very strange decision.
 
Naruto actually says YES. Why would he say yes if he doesn't have feelings for Sakura (anymore)? WHO KNOWS? There's nothing funny about it! He's sheepishly trying to tell his father that he actually really likes this girl who is a lot like his mother. This is not something to laugh at. Kishimoto decided to do this. Very strange. And later, when he's saying goodbye to his father, he does admit that he didn't fulfill the promise to his mother yet. Even though Sakura hasn't even betrayed him yet. How did he know that was going to happen? And yet he said this. It's not even consistent about being tragically pathetic.
 
Sakura headbutts him. This is mildly amusing. Tsundere. Whatever.

Minato notes the resemblance to Kushina. Why note the resemblance to Kushina, whether or not it exists, if she's not supposed to be with Naruto? Completely bizarre.
 
Minato says, "Take care of my son." What does this mean? It means be with my son and eventually take care of him as his wife. Don't tell me it could have meant take care of his injuries. Kushina wasn't a f***ing medic nin!
 
Kishimoto completely screws with the reader. This was happening the entire time. Strange decision, since the readers are the ones that give him his money.
 
So what does this mean for NaruSaku? It means that it is going to become canon. There is no other interpretation that would justify the inclusion of this. Minato didn't need to say those things. Minato didn't even need to be there. The scene didn't even need to happen. And yet it did. For, evidently no, reason.
 
Did Naruto love Sakura at this point? Apparently, since he said she was his girlfriend.
 
Did Sakura love Naruto at this point? Apparently, since she didn't even bother to deny it!

 

Minato's question was directed at Sakura. She chose to not answer and let Naruto's response stand without correcting Minato or even Naruto.
 
Seriously, let's consider the situation here. You're Sakura. Naruto is your best friend. You are going to let him continue to harbor a belief that you are willing to be with him, when you have no such desire and would instead rather wait years for Sasuke to come back, whereupon he will treat you about as well as trash that someone threw out of their car on the highway. Does this make any sense to anyone? Why would Sakura do this? Even if she is, in fact, a gigantic garbage fire, there's nothing to be gained by misleading Naruto in this way. He would be heartbroken. He would feel so betrayed and defeated. Sakura would never do this. If you need to ask why she would never do this, you haven't been paying enough attention to the other posts. Well, she actually would do this, because Sakura would never choose to be with Sasuke in the way that it happened. Or, realistically, at all. But that's a topic for a different day. Basically every other day except this one. This day is just about how stupid it is that these manga panels exist.
 
Rating: 5. There's no other rating to give it. It's just Kishimoto trying to f*** with everyone, or he just didn't even care to change what he storyboarded or planned to do. It's ridiculous, in every conceivable way. No part of this should have happened if he intended to do the ending that he did.
 
I don't even want to give this the satisfaction of my even bothering to write about it anymore.
 

 
So I won't.

 

5. I don't even need to explain this scene. Everyone is thinking the same thing. This in fact, was the HIGHLIGHT of our shipping happiness

 

Apparently. Remember, this is Hinata we are talking about. Whatever she does it is 100% important.

 

If Sakura saves Naruto's life, it is just friends and teammates helping each other. If Hinata "saves" Naruto's life, it is 1000% romantic and justified.

If Sasuke, Sakura, Neji, or anyone else blocks an attack on Naruto it is not because they care about him or love him or anything. If Hinata does it, Naruto has to see it as true love.

If Naruto turns into a tailed beast because of Sasuke or Sakura, it is not because he cares or loves them. If he turns into a tailed beast for Hinata it means he truly loves her with all his heart and he is confessing his love for her.

 

This is the logic that all pro-enders play by. They live this logic. They breath it. I wouldn't be surprised if they make love to it.

 

To them, the ONLY person who cares about Naruto is Hinata. Noone else apparently gives a rats ass.

 

OH PSHHHHHHHHH, All Naruto needed to do was LOOK IN HINATA'S DIRECTION and Pro enders would  be like" HOW ROMANTIC, NARUTO TOTALLY PROPOSED TO HER!!!!! THEY ARE A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN!!!!! " trollolololololololol

Edited by Phantom_999, 05 March 2018 - 02:59 AM.

[DrK]

Promise of a Lifetime. This is the last scene I am going to do. I may rant about other things, but I won't be doing another image-heavy post like this in the thread.
 













 
What happens? The course of events goes as follows. Sakura goes on a "date" with Naruto to tell him about how worried she is about Sasuke's curse mark and basically her worries that he's going to go to Orochimaru because he's turning into a revenge crazed psycho. Naruto promises her that he won't, which he was wrong about. Obviously. Then Sakura catches Sasuke leaving the village and delivers a teary-eyed confession to which Sasuke knocks her out without saying much. Then they have to go after Sasuke and this scene happens. Sakura begs Naruto to bring him back to which he promises that he will do so. He was not successful... At all, really, but definitely not right away.
 
Why did this scene happen the way it did? Sakura did what she did because she felt she loved Sasuke and that she couldn't be happy if he was gone. Shippuden goes out of its way to show how wrong she was about this, until the Land of Iron when she starts to slip, then in the war arc, she completely reverts to this state of mind. For no real reason, honestly. She was happy without him. When Sasuke was around, she was not happy. This was because she was either simply in fear for her life or Sasuke was actively trying to hurt her.
 
Naruto made the promise because he loved Sakura and wanted to protect her happiness. To him, at the time, it was very important that Sakura be able to be happy even if she was never going to be with him. At some point, this priority was no longer a priority for Naruto. Because after the war ended, Sakura ceased to be happy and Naruto did nothing about it. It's explained in Gaiden that he had no idea what was going on with her. So protecting her happiness stopped being important to him. But it was at this time.
 
What else is important to consider? Let's be real here. This was a pretty crappy thing for Sakura to do. Naruto could've been killed going after Sasuke. It was dangerous enough already without him being in the position where he can't actually kill Sasuke out of concern for Sakura's feelings. Sakura probably didn't actually think about how Sasuke might try to kill him, but that doesn't matter. She didn't concern herself with Naruto's safety. It was a low point for her. Which makes it all the more baffling that she returns to it 4 years later. Yeah, I know Naruto would not have killed Sasuke in any event. It doesn't matter. Sakura wouldn't have known that. She actually had a reason to believe otherwise when she saw the two of them on the rooftop.
 
She also did not take Naruto's feelings for her seriously, so she wasn't really aware of how much this request would hurt him, emotionally. Whatever, though.
 
Naruto does, technically fulfill this promise eventually. But Sakura doesn't say a damn thing about it. She is too busy begging to go with Sasuke in defiance of her bond with Naruto, her parents, all her other friends, and the Will of Fire itself. Well played by Kishimoto.
 
So what does this mean for NaruSaku? It means that bringing back Sasuke should mean something for the two characters. It instead meant nothing, they don't talk about it, and the reasons why Naruto made the promise cease to exist. Because he needed to care about Hinata more.
 
Did Naruto love Sakura at this point? What do you think?
 
Did Sakura love Naruto at this point? No... However, the last NS moment before this was one that I didn't write about, where Sakura discovers that it was Naruto who saved her from Gaara's sand. She doesn't believe Sasuke the first time he says it, but after he repeats it she gives a warm smile to Naruto. She doesn't try to assuage Sasuke's ego in any way. You'd think if she was meant to love Sasuke only, and never love Naruto, she would've said something like "You're still the best, Sasuke-kun, I'm sure you'll do better next time. Naruto was probably only able to save my worthless ass because he got lucky."

 

It also makes you wonder why Sasuke felt telling Sakura about that was such a big deal if he was just going to blithely walk off into the sunset with Sakura at the end. Why didn't he just take the credit if he secretly liked her and didn't want to let Naruto have her? It's actually quite ridiculous that Sasuke did that at the end. Regardless of what his feelings for Sakura were, I don't see him alienating Naruto. Naruto is the only person he truly cared for other than Itachi and Itachi is dead. He would at the very least ensure that Naruto would not have an issue with it. Perhaps that happened off-panel.
 
Rating: 5. I really can't justify rating it anything else. The whole idea of her marrying Sasuke after Naruto completed the promise is just ridiculous. Naruto is the main character. It's one thing if the main char starts off kinda liking a girl but moves on. But this is not that situation. Naruto was completely obsessed with making her happy. And she grew to love him as well. Yet nothing came of it. In fact, the absolute worst outcome came of it.
 
Any reader who isn't completely dense would expect him to end up with Sakura after this scene happened if they didn't already. It creates an expectation that Naruto will do what he promised and that it will actually MEAN SOMETHING to Sakura. Instead she reverts to the way she was in chapter 3, loves Sasuke and doesn't give a crap about Naruto. And the way Naruto feels about this is not dealt with in the manga, but it's later established that he stopped being close with Sakura. So everyone is f***ing miserable.

 

Why did this happen? You know why. The worst part is that Hinata wasn't actually even that popular. They would've been much more successful if they hadn't done this. Most of the Hinata fans never spent a cent to watch/read Naruto.
 
It's really a shame.
 
 

 
Naruto wanted to protect that smiling face. Did he do so? Yes, for a time. But then she became miserable and Naruto did not do anything about it. I mean it's baffling that she would want to marry Sasuke when he's going to be gone all the damn time and when he tried to kill her. But Naruto could have at least asked her why she felt it was so important that she be with Sasuke. He could've tried to talk her out of wasting her life. He could've seen if she was suffering from some mental condition, and if she was, told Ino about it so that Ino could help her.
 
Instead he just abandoned her. It's fair because she abandoned him as well, but you can't protect a smiling face that you don't even see. A smiling face that you don't even know where it is. A smiling face that is no longer smiling.
 
That's something their faces have in common. At least they have that going for them. They were united in that one way. 
 
It's been fun. Peace out for now.

Edited by DrK, 06 March 2018 - 05:08 AM.

[rocci]

Naruto and Sasuke light and darkness dualisme start after Tsunade arc, and canonize by Neji in rescue Sasuke arc.

One thing that i always found amusing is that how Kishi make sure that sakura interaction with Naruto and Sasuke represent it.
In the beginning of rescue Sasuke arc, when sakura interact with Sasuke it happened in dark or night and how it show that sakura is in pain and unhappy.
While with Naruto, sakura interaction happen in light and day. And it show how sakura so happy and smile with him.

It show that eventough sering a sakura tree bloom in the night is romantic, a tree Will thrive in light.

Anyway sakura is the only character beside iruka who sit down with Naruto in the bench. The other character who has bench scene is Jiraiya and Tsunade.

After land of iron arc, there's no (meaningful) ns interaction.
Since Naruto and sakura usually have interaction in the beginning of the arc.

[DrK]

Naruto and Sasuke light and darkness dualisme start after Tsunade arc, and canonize by Neji in rescue Sasuke arc.

One thing that i always found amusing is that how Kishi make sure that sakura interaction with Naruto and Sasuke represent it.
In the beginning of rescue Sasuke arc, when sakura interact with Sasuke it happened in dark or night and how it show that sakura is in pain and unhappy.
While with Naruto, sakura interaction happen in light and day. And it show how sakura so happy and smile with him.

There's something about SS that I have always found repulsive. I used to think it was because he tried to kill her, but I don't think that's it. I don't have a problem with a lot of pairings that try to kill each other. It could have been that Sakura was utterly helpless against him, but I don't think it's that either. I don't feel the same way about SK or something like Orihime x Ulquiorra.

 

It very well could be what you are talking about. It's the imagery and tone of her interactions with him. You're meant to think Sasuke is poison to her. It's very similar to how Itachi is presented to Sasuke. The atmosphere of danger and wrongness. And though this sense of being forbidden would appeal to some, it's recoiling for most. Really insane that he actually did it. Though it makes sense that Sasuke is never actually there with her. It's less terrifying that way.

[jak123]

There's something about SS that I have always found repulsive. I used to think it was because he tried to kill her, but I don't think that's it. I don't have a problem with a lot of pairings that try to kill each other. It could have been that Sakura was utterly helpless against him, but I don't think it's that either. I don't feel the same way about SK or something like Orihime x Ulquiorra.

 

It very well could be what you are talking about. It's the imagery and tone of her interactions with him. You're meant to think Sasuke is poison to her. It's very similar to how Itachi is presented to Sasuke. The atmosphere of danger and wrongness. And though this sense of being forbidden would appeal to some, it's recoiling for most. Really insane that he actually did it. Though it makes sense that Sasuke is never actually there with her. It's less terrifying that way.

Talking about Imagery. The blatant genjutsu heart stab screamed "I don't love you!"

[DrK]

Talking about Imagery. The blatant genjutsu heart stab screamed "I don't love you!"

I mean, their relationship was a dark as hell theme as it was. But to have them get together after that is like ridiculously dark for a shonen. To be plagued by a love for someone who acts as a black hole that sucks up all your happiness when he's not actively trying to kill you is really not something that you'd see in 99.9% of mainstream work.

 

It'd be a different case if Sasuke actually felt similarly. Like if his violence was a way of expressing something. It would still be kittened, but it'd be more accessible. But it clearly wasn't like that. He wanted her to go away or die. That's all.

Edited by DrK, 04 March 2018 - 04:48 PM.

[jak123]

I mean, their relationship was a dark as hell theme as it was. But to have them get together after that is like ridiculously dark for a shonen. To be plagued by a love for someone who acts as a black hole that sucks up all your happiness when he's not actively trying to kill you is really not something that you'd see in 99.9% of mainstream work.

 

It'd be a different case if Sasuke actually felt similarly. Like if his violence was a way of expressing something. It would still be kittened, but it'd be more accessible. But it clearly wasn't like that. He wanted her to go away or die. That's all.

I never once found Sasuke to care about her until right at the end when the pairings were already forced together which made Sasuke incredibly OOC. Which is funny because that didn't last long considering it shows he doesn't give a kitten about his wife or daughter in Boruto. You should do an analysis on Sasuke and Karin's relationship compared to his with Sakura's.

Edited by jak123, 04 March 2018 - 05:46 PM.

[Phantom_999]

There's something about SS that I have always found repulsive. I used to think it was because he tried to kill her, but I don't think that's it. I don't have a problem with a lot of pairings that try to kill each other. It could have been that Sakura was utterly helpless against him, but I don't think it's that either. I don't feel the same way about SK or something like Orihime x Ulquiorra.
 
It very well could be what you are talking about. It's the imagery and tone of her interactions with him. You're meant to think Sasuke is poison to her. It's very similar to how Itachi is presented to Sasuke. The atmosphere of danger and wrongness. And though this sense of being forbidden would appeal to some, it's recoiling for most. Really insane that he actually did it. Though it makes sense that Sasuke is never actually there with her. It's less terrifying that way.

Exactly. Even disregarding the fact that Sasuke attempted to kill Sakura, Did he EVER MAKE HER HAPPY? And no, the Fan-girling and squealing at his coolness does not count. When Sakura saw  The real sasuke was she happy, was she blushing and smiling like she does with Naruto? That is the key difference here. In fact that question applies to Naruto too. Did Naruto ever show his warm and goofy grin to Hinata whenever was with her? and even when he did, is it the the EXACT SAME one he shows to Sakura whenever they are alone together or when he is even just talking to Sakura? again you really MUST BE socially inept, or very ANTI-SOCIAL to not see the difference of how Sakura and Naruto act around their so-called "significant others" compared to how they act around each other   
 

Edited by Phantom_999, 04 March 2018 - 05:52 PM.

[DrK]

I never once found Sasuke to care about her until right at the end when the pairings were already forced together which made Sasuke incredibly OOC. Which is funny because that didn't last long considering it shows he doesn't give a kitten about his wife or daughter in Boruto. You should do an analysis on Sasuke and Karin's relationship compared to his with Sakura's.

I was going to do something on SS moments. Like how much is there actually there for her loving him? It's a lot less than people make it out to be. She basically comes off as having this really childish crush on him. Then she grows to actually care for him from their time as teammates, and this combined with her crush ends up being conflated as love, which she declares to him. Aside from that scene, there is jack kitten for her loving him at all, really. Yet in the Land of Iron, you're suddenly treated to a flashback of moon eyed Sakura looking at him in admiration, when that didn't even happen in part 1 after the very start. She acted pretty normal around him. So that was more or less a misrepresentation. Then she can't stab him cause of her great love. Then the love letter ninja happens. Etc. It's even more ham-handed than NH is. Hinata at least did things for Naruto like with the ointment and getting herself ST'ed. Sakura only paid lipservice and she didn't even do that more than once, yet all this crap comes out of left field.

 

I am really not that knowledgeable about SK, I just know Sasuke activated an eye power for her. He gained greater ocular ability, the thing that is more important to him than anything, because of her, and for her. That right there means Sakura already lost. She never helped him in any capacity.

 

The best SS moment and the closest she ever came to actually helping him was when she hugs him in the forest. That was like the only natural, actual romantic interaction that they had that was vaguely mutual. She hugged him and it had a, I guess positive, effect. It's hard to believe that that scene actually happened looking back on it.

Edited by DrK, 04 March 2018 - 06:08 PM.

[jak123]

 

The best SS moment and the closest she ever came to actually helping him was when she hugs him in the forest. That was like the only natural, actual romantic interaction that they had that was vaguely mutual. She hugged him and it had a, I guess positive, effect. It's hard to believe that that scene actually happened looking back on it.

 

Now how many scenes did Sakura have a positive effect on Naruto? I'm betting it's a WHOLE lot more.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

There's something about SS that I have always found repulsive. I used to think it was because he tried to kill her, but I don't think that's it. I don't have a problem with a lot of pairings that try to kill each other. It could have been that Sakura was utterly helpless against him, but I don't think it's that either. I don't feel the same way about SK or something like Orihime x Ulquiorra.

 

It very well could be what you are talking about. It's the imagery and tone of her interactions with him. You're meant to think Sasuke is poison to her. It's very similar to how Itachi is presented to Sasuke. The atmosphere of danger and wrongness. And though this sense of being forbidden would appeal to some, it's recoiling for most. Really insane that he actually did it. Though it makes sense that Sasuke is never actually there with her. It's less terrifying that way.

Whenever she thinks about Sasuke, it's pretty much always with a pitch-black background, sometimes even with a poisonous miasma fogging up his image, and usually a memory of him insulting her or some other dark moment; the complete opposite with Naruto where it's usually a light background, sometimes with rays of sunshine, and usually a memory of him encouraging her or other good moment.

 

Exactly. Even disregarding the fact that Sasuke attempted to kill Sakura, Did he EVER MAKE HER HAPPY? And no, the Fan-girling and squealing at his coolness does not count. When Sakura saw  The real sasuke was she happy, was she blushing and smiling like she does with Naruto? That is the key difference here. In fact that question applies to Naruto too. Did Naruto ever show his warm and goofy grin to Hinata whenever was with her? and even when he did, is it the the EXACT SAME one he shows to Sakura whenever they are alone together or when he is even just talking to Sakura? again you really MUST BE socially inept, or very ANTI-SOCIAL to not see the difference of how Sakura and Naruto act around their so-called "significant others" compared to how they act around each other   
 

Boruto's dad showed more of his old self when talking with Sarada than with Hinatatas and her spawn, and I'm betting it's because of seeing Sakura's influence and secretly wishing it was his kid.

[DrK]

poisonous miasma

 

Boruto's dad showed more of his old self when talking with Sarada than with Hinatatas and her spawn, and I'm betting it's because of seeing Sakura's influence and secretly wishing it was his kid.

Well, he stood back and let her be gassed. I don't think he can really complain. They both get to be tortured by their mistakes forever, now. Because some people in the US liked Hinata and because SP liked money, but not doing proper market research.

Edited by DrK, 04 March 2018 - 07:21 PM.