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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:48 PM

Poor Minato already gets lambasted by NH fans, then even SS fans will join the Anti Minato club .

It's going to happen pretty soon. Poor Minato. Actually, poor Kushina. She got backlashed bad when the anime episode happened. I can dig that episode discussion for you. It was pathetic.

Ha...I feel like making a joke post on Sasuke. In thinking about it. It something that reflects this whole arc and fight. I want to give it time because maybe just maybe for once he do something right in the next chapter. Maybe he can say "Good work, team!" after Naruto cuts her arm, establishing that he did that support.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:54 PM

It's going to happen pretty soon. Poor Minato. Actually, poor Kushina. She got backlashed bad when the anime episode happened. I can dig that episode discussion for you. It was pathetic.

Ha...I feel like making a joke post on Sasuke. In thinking about it. It something that reflects this whole arc and fight. I want to give it time because maybe just maybe for once he do something right in the next chapter. Maybe he can say "Good work, team!" after Naruto cuts her arm, establishing that he did that support.

About the underlined, I wouldn't hold my breath. What Sasuke might actually say -" You follow my orders well Naruto. My plan worked. I almost got her ".


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:00 PM

About the underlined, I wouldn't hold my breath. What Sasuke might actually say -" You follow my orders well Naruto. My plan worked. I almost got her ".

That works too. I just said that line because it was comical in DBZ abridged series, Trunks, whom no one knew at the time, defeated all baddies and Krillin just said "Good work, Team!" to Z warriors (yeah I said it). But yes, he might as well take some credit with a statement.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:22 PM

I came across this amv on youtube, and thought about making it a little tribute to Obito.

 

 

 

 

 

Note: I think the song was suppose to be titled I lost Myself. 


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 05:27 PM

Viz translation yall
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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:22 PM

It's going to happen pretty soon. Poor Minato. Actually, poor Kushina. She got backlashed bad when the anime episode happened. I can dig that episode discussion for you. It was pathetic.

 

What is this instance of pathetic discussion you speak of? What episode caused Kushina to receive backlash from the viewers? I wanna see this episode for myself.



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:32 PM

 
What is this instance of pathetic discussion you speak of? What episode caused Kushina to receive backlash from the viewers? I wanna see this episode for myself.

What else? Tsundere. "Oh god damn it. Another ***** like Sakura." Actually, even in 664 she got hated for having that personality like when she's like "Oh you said it like nothing". The one before Minato say "Because I'm his father." No idea but sigh.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:39 PM

What else? Tsundere. "Oh god damn it. Another ***** like Sakura." Actually, even in 664 she got hated for having that personality like when she's like "Oh you said it like nothing". The one before Minato say "Because I'm his father." No idea but sigh.

 

But what episode of the anime were you specifically referring to?



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:42 PM

 
But what episode of the anime were you specifically referring to?

The one Kushina first talk to Naruto. It all started with that punch.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:46 PM

What else? Tsundere. "Oh god damn it. Another ***** like Sakura." Actually, even in 664 she got hated for having that personality like when she's like "Oh you said it like nothing". The one before Minato say "Because I'm his father." No idea but sigh.

What will they do if Hinata  suddenly becomes Tsundere with Naruto? Will they hate her too? 

 

You know what's pathetic? NH fans want Hinata to be like how Sakura is with Naruto. SS fans want Sasuke to be like how Naruto is with Sakura and they also want Sakura to treat Sasuke  the way she treats Naruto. You can see this in their fanarts.

 

Yet they cannot stand the thought of NS!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:51 PM

The one Kushina first talk to Naruto. It all started with that punch.

 

Oh, okay.



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:13 PM

ns.Believeit@ its called hipocrisy.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:27 PM

Oh well, at least they were consistent when they got mad at the movie ads saying that Hinata is super jealous of Sakura for obvious reasons.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:44 PM

The Viz translation (if true... is it a joke?) kinda makes it's out to be kinda worst. Naruto only thinks Obito is awesome cause he once wanted to be Hokage himself? 

 

I honestly don't care either way about this because Kishi loves making things as unrealistic as they come for villains having a change of heart. I'm all for wearing Rose Colored glasses, but sometimes it's just not worth it as some people are just inherently evil. Words won't fix everything...yadda yadda. 

 

Maybe it's because people want this manga (which is a fiction story mind you) to show some realism behind it's acts is why frustration seems high lately. IDK just an assumption. Anyway manga/comic books should be the last place you turn to for a source of realism, aren't this suppose to take you away from your boring life? I hope anyone pissed at Naruto for Obito/Sasuke is pissed at DBZ considering a majority of it's heroes were once evil be it criminals/villains or something state of mind (I can't quite remember the phrase)


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:44 PM

Obito has a much weaker reason for turning evil than Sasuke did. He saw Rin die and then decided that was enough to go along with Madara's plans. Sasuke went down a long road to end up where he's at now. I can't agree with Obito being less evil/more justified than Sasuke, he just...isn't. Deciding to destroy the entire world because your crush died is extremely selfish.

 

i dont like to bring obitos subject again and am not an obito fan nor trying to justify him. .but i still hasnt reached the right opinion about this.  i agree that obitos reason is selfish and weaker than sasuke. i mean to lose your family and your clan in one night and that had been done by your brother /idol. is stronger than losing the girl u love(it wasnt a crush obito loves rin like how naruto loves sakura to me). here i agree .but that is not all  the story    . u have to look at the reasons that kept them in the dark path also .here obitos reasons are stronger than sasukes. cause sasuke was treated like a king in the village and everyone loved him tried to do everything for him and he just cut all the bonds . and kept moving to his goal. but obito had no one . to save him from darkness  he had madara and BZ tricking him to push him to the dark path. . and if u say that why he didnt come back to the village.? well he should have . but after dying once and losing your most important person .  and then coming back a live  and wanting to see them so bad . but losing them  again and your best friend failed u and all the people think u are dead already . and to witness  how much  harsh  the world is like madara said and at this time the dream world idea seemed the only choice he got to save /see his loved ones and the other reason so that the people wont witness this harsh world anymore .  . . those are also a reasonable  reasons  to be evil for me . kishi made the balance between the  villains reasons and the after reasons . at least that is how i saw it.. 

I'm sorry but the people who defend Obito really need to reconsider. Everytime I watch RtN and the part where Minato and Kushina give their final words to baby Naruto my  hatred for Obito reaches a higher level. Kushina cries her heart out because she won't be able to watch her son grow up, all because of that horrible scumbag. I feel like punching Obito in the face!

There is no character I despise more than Obito.

i understand this.but the people are not defending obito actions they are defending his reasons behind his actions and lalso narutos reasons to forgive him and that made people see naruto as crazy which he is not..so if  minato and kushina forgave obito too like naruto . would u still be angry .? :D  because that is what will they do :yes:  cause minato trusted naruto to  find the answer to peace . and narutos answer as i understood it . is to have the power to kill the person who killed your dearest persons. but u talk to him first and see why he did it . and tnj  him  :lulz: . (which is the most thing i like about naruto) . and if he regret what he did. and try to change .then naruto will forgive him . but if he still evil after the tnj he will kill him /punish him .and here naruto will punish him not because he killed his friends/ family only but also because he will hurt others if he had the chance again. which is different . . maybe u and me will try to kill/punish the person who killed our beloved ones in an instant and we have all the right to . and its fair. but  we are just getting our right back . we are not trying to find the answer to peace like naruto . so if we were good/right then naruto is  more right and best .i hope u see my point. :smile:



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:46 PM

Viz translation yall

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They made it worse from "cool" to "awesome".
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Posted 04 August 2014 - 08:32 PM

The Viz translation (if true... is it a joke?) kinda makes it's out to be kinda worst. Naruto only thinks Obito is awesome cause he once wanted to be Hokage himself? 
 
I honestly don't care either way about this because Kishi loves making things as unrealistic as they come for villains having a change of heart. I'm all for wearing Rose Colored glasses, but sometimes it's just not worth it as some people are just inherently evil. Words won't fix everything...yadda yadda. 
 
Maybe it's because people want this manga (which is a fiction story mind you) to show some realism behind it's acts is why frustration seems high lately. IDK just an assumption. Anyway manga/comic books should be the last place you turn to for a source of realism, aren't this suppose to take you away from your boring life? I hope anyone pissed at Naruto for Obito/Sasuke is pissed at DBZ considering a majority of it's heroes were once evil be it criminals/villains or something state of mind (I can't quite remember the phrase)

Yes that's what raws saw
He obviously forgave Obito for the things he did
But Naruto just saw himself in Obito and that's why he said Obito is cool to him

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 08:52 PM

The Viz translation (if true... is it a joke?) kinda makes it's out to be kinda worst. Naruto only thinks Obito is awesome cause he once wanted to be Hokage himself? 

 

I honestly don't care either way about this because Kishi loves making things as unrealistic as they come for villains having a change of heart. I'm all for wearing Rose Colored glasses, but sometimes it's just not worth it as some people are just inherently evil. Words won't fix everything...yadda yadda. 

 

Maybe it's because people want this manga (which is a fiction story mind you) to show some realism behind it's acts is why frustration seems high lately. IDK just an assumption. Anyway manga/comic books should be the last place you turn to for a source of realism, aren't this suppose to take you away from your boring life? I hope anyone pissed at Naruto for Obito/Sasuke is pissed at DBZ considering a majority of it's heroes were once evil be it criminals/villains or something state of mind (I can't quite remember the phrase)

The truth is is that noone is born evil or good. It is all in our upbringing. The only thing we are born with is selfishness. It is not until we grow up do we become selfless. I don't even think there is such a thing as being "inherently evil" otherwise who would you consider inherently good?

There is no justification for any of it. Obito wasn't inherently evil, neither was Sasuke, and neither was Madara. They all basically became a product of their environment with each changing due to a traumatic event. What people keep arguing is not "justification," but rather what they deem is "acceptable" and the truth is there is no acceptable reason for being evil. There is no acceptable reason for being a jerk or murderer. There isn't even an acceptable reason for why we are good either. We just have reasons.

Obito's reasons are no more or less "justifiable" than Sasuke's or Madara's. Some may accept ones reasons over another, but that is just an opinion and not necessary a factual reason. A murderer doesn't get let go because "well, he had a horrible childhood so we have to forgive him." This is where some make the mistake with what I said. People confuse my words for justifying when in reality I am am just giving the realist answers.

You also have the views of people who believe that doing evil things for the greater good is justifiable. They don't deny that what they do is wrong, but rather they see it as no other way. This is what Danzo was. He believed he was the man to do the dirty work that not a lot of people would do and it helped save people's lives. Like the Uchiha Massacre where we found out that the Uchiha were staging a rebellion that could have caused a war. I am not saying this excuses him, I am just saying I understand his logic and it is natural to think that way.

Soldiers as well fight daily on the lines killing each other over reaons both stupid and righteous: Religion, land, money, knowledge, and so many other things. Wars started over the dumbest things and many villains in comic books and manga play with these ideas.

 

Look at what Joker says in the Killing Joke.

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Is the Joker right? In some cases he is. He might even be the proof of concept depending on the story. V in V for Vendetta also promoted something similar with how he says that violence can be used for good and used to punish the guilty. Is he right? Well, that depends. Many people look down on vigilantism. The best way I view it is like this: You can put a fence in your yard to seperate into two halves parallel to eachother, but in truth it is still the same yard and it is still the same land. Just because you add something doesn't mean you changed it. Good and Evil is only really defined by the perspective of the person and what they deem is good and evil.
 


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:08 PM

What will they do if Hinata  suddenly becomes Tsundere with Naruto? Will they hate her too? 

 

You know what's pathetic? NH fans want Hinata to be like how Sakura is with Naruto. SS fans want Sasuke to be like how Naruto is with Sakura and they also want Sakura to treat Sasuke  the way she treats Naruto. You can see this in their fanarts.

 

Yet they cannot stand the thought of NS!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I think one reason I've come to dislike NH fan art so much (to the point it almost irks me) is because they make Hinata WAY out of character sometimes. From Hinata slapping the crap out of Naruto for the girlfriend line in 631, to Hinata being a yandere and having an "inner Hinata"...yup. Seen both of these more than once.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:26 PM

Long Usual Cassidy rant (sorry ^_^)

Should I respond to this? Am I going to respond to this, yes....no, wait yes.

 

Taking me of all people seriously huh James? Well in this cause you have good reason. I understand the concepts of what you're eluding to, what I don't get is why we're taking about it when Naruto is just a fictional story. Obviously none of the characters we're truly evil, but when I was talking about Rose Colored Glasses, I'm talking about the real world itself. No one maybe truly evil in belief, but talking will not solve anything, because people are who they choose to be... 


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