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[MangaReader]

Possible. Oh man, I'm more hyped for this next chapter than I thought.

Too bad I heard it's another two week break

[TouKen4Life3g]

Too bad I heard it's another two week break

I know it is. But I am hyped. Oh well, I can wait.

[MangaReader]

I know it is. But I am hyped. Oh well, I can wait.

Should be a good chapter

[Atheck]

So anyone wants to see Kakashi's fight or Naruto's (Sakura) fight first?

Kakashi's conflict with Tobi will involve a considerable amount of emotional/psychological tribulation tribulation as it will physically. The issue over why Kakashi decided to kill Rin is something that needs to be resolved soon though admittedly I presumed that Naruto would play a role in the final fight with Tobi as Kishi has been continually emphasizing the parallelism between Tobi and Naruto alongside their conflict of ideologies. Naruto being able to understand what the catalyst was for Tobi's shift in personality would provide some degree of resolution not just to their relationship but the one with Kakashi as well since Naruto would now be fully aware of his teacher's past which would assist in strengthening the bond that they share.

Alternatively I am very much dedicated to seeing what comes next on the main battlefield. I want to know if Sakura will be making any significant contributions to this fight or to Naruto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Kakashi's conflict with Tobi will involve a considerable amount of emotional/psychological tribulation tribulation as it will physically. The issue over why Kakashi decided to kill Rin is something that needs to be resolved soon though admittedly I presumed that Naruto would play a role in the final fight with Tobi as Kishi has been continually emphasizing the parallelism between Tobi and Naruto alongside their conflict of ideologies. Naruto being able to understand what the catalyst was for Tobi's shift in personality would provide some degree of resolution not just to their relationship but the one with Kakashi as well since Naruto would now be fully aware of his teacher's past which would assist in strengthening the bond that they share.

Alternatively I am very much dedicated to seeing what comes next on the main battlefield. I want to know if Sakura will be making any significant contributions to this fight or to Naruto.

Yeah, I can see this. I guess we will get the better picture in the next chapter.

[Dkey]

The fact that Kakashi and Obito went to the alternate dimension means that some how the fight will include something is for either Kakashi's or Obito's ears.

But still it feels odd that Minato would show up and Obito is basically there too. Now I'm not sure if Minato knows more about what happened to Rin than Kakashi or who is to blame for Rin's death. The village or Madara.

Anyway I think it's gonna be another flashback volume because at the end of 628 it asked about Obito and Kakashi and Rin's fate seems to be the source of Obito's madness.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hey wait, anyone remember that battle they had before alliance showed up. I could have sworn Obito teleported him and then go back out again. Why on earth did he do that?

[Dkey]

Hey wait, anyone remember that battle they had before alliance showed up. I could have sworn Obito teleported him and then go back out again. Why on earth did he do that?

You're right.

The reason wasn't really clear and even backfired on Obito because Kakashi could harm him while Obito was sending his body parts in the other dimension.

[Don-kun]

I agree.

As to the bold in your first paragraph, I think that's certainly one of the more likely possibilities. But I also wonder if, like you said, something less optimistic happens. In fact, if something much darker might not happen.

I wonder if Kakashi will survive. I know there are reasons to believe that Kishimoto won't re-kill Kakashi (and a lot of readers don't believe Kishimoto has the guts to permanently kill any character despite evidence to the contrary), but unfortunately I think Kakashi is a possible candidate for a second death.

There are several reasons I say that, but the most recent is because of Obito's actions in #628 and Kakashi's remarks. As others have pointed out, Naruto doesn't seem to have changed one bit; he's still stubbornly over-extending himself in his desire to protect his friends and impress Obito with his nindo and sense of loyalty. And Kakashi was clearly concerned that Obito was using/manipulating Naruto as a guinea pig, continuing to toy with Naruto's mental state.

What if Kakashi doesn't make it back alive from the other dimension? What if Naruto has to take that on top of Neji? Is there a possibility that more could happen in an effort to break Naruto's spirit? IDK. I'm just not sure Kakashi would be the one to TnJ Obito and bring him back.

I will only say one thing, PNJ.
Naruto said that after all this chaos his done he was going to listing to Kakashi's story, I feel that this will also help Naruto went it comes to his relationship with Sasuke and Sakura.
So that alone tells me Kakashi won't die. Plus his sad story will not end with his dead will mostly be about him finally letting go of his regret and move on with his life. So don't worry about Kakashi KNS

[Nate River]

You're right.

The reason wasn't really clear and even backfired on Obito because Kakashi could harm him while Obito was sending his body parts in the other dimension.

Because Kakashi struck him when Obito tried to use the technique. If Obito leaves him there he either cannot use Kamui or will get struck every time he teleport's a part of his body there. Obito does not come across as a particularly gifted fighter, except for his ability to relentlessly spam Kamui.

So that alone tells me Kakashi won't die. Plus his sad story will not end with his dead will mostly be about him finally letting go of his regret and move on with his life. So don't worry about Kakashi KNS

Kishimoto's general MO suggests he will live, but it wouldn't surprise me that even if Kakashi wins he ends up trapped. It would be a great chance to show self-sacrifice and what would be left for him to do? Lacking purpose hasn't kept him from reviving people before, but I imagine this fight will answer most of the remaining questions about Kakashi.

Watch the mask. I bet if it falls, he dies.

[tricksie]

Kishimoto's general MO suggests he will live, but it wouldn't surprise me that even if Kakashi wins he ends up trapped. It would be a great chance to show self-sacrifice and what would be left for him to do? Lacking purpose hasn't kept him from reviving people before, but I imagine this fight will answer most of the remaining questions about Kakashi.

Watch the mask. I bet if it falls, he dies.

I tend to agree. Kakashi is such a beloved character. And while that is not justification alone for keeping him alive, Naruto has already gone through the pain of losing his "mentor," Jiraiya. Does he need to lose another? I don't think the impact would be the same on Naruto's storyline. And I feel that there's a higher likelihood of Tsunade dying. (You know, older generation and all that.) So that would be heaping Kakashi's death on top of that...ugh.

And oh yes, the mask, the mask. That's a good thought. The mask might end up being like the Akatsuki cloak. Once it's off, the clock is ticking!

[alexander]

So, shouldn't we have an second chapter this week? I heard we got an double issue and all of that.

[Atheck]

And oh yes, the mask, the mask. That's a good thought. The mask might end up being like the Akatsuki cloak. Once it's off, the clock is ticking!

To be fair, there have been a few exceptions to the "cloak curse". Kisame had his destroyed during his fight with KB and he continued living for about forty additional chapters. Transitioning over to Amegakure we see Tobi had his partially torn off during his fight with Konan. Granted it wasn't completely obliterated but it does show that some villains are able to escape the curse at least for a temporary amount of time. Oh, and of course, we still have Black Zetsu who was just incapacitated and not killed. Whether Kishi will address him again in the future is unknown though.

[Don-kun]

So, shouldn't we have an second chapter this week? I heard we got an double issue and all of that.

To what knowledge I gather on this as other forum double issue means one chapter for two weeks.
Basic English suggest that double issue mean two chapters in one week but for them it seems like it means one chapter for two weeks.

Edited by Don-kun, 28 April 2013 - 02:52 AM.

[tricksie]

To be fair, there have been a few exceptions to the "cloak curse". Kisame had his destroyed during his fight with KB and he continued living for about forty additional chapters. Transitioning over to Amegakure we see Tobi had his partially torn off during his fight with Konan. Granted it wasn't completely obliterated but it does show that some villains are able to escape the curse at least for a temporary amount of time. Oh, and of course, we still have Black Zetsu who was just incapacitated and not killed. Whether Kishi will address him again in the future is unknown though.

Ah, you're so right. I forgot Black Zetsu! I bet he'll be back for sure.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

To be fair, there have been a few exceptions to the "cloak curse". Kisame had his destroyed during his fight with KB and he continued living for about forty additional chapters. Transitioning over to Amegakure we see Tobi had his partially torn off during his fight with Konan. Granted it wasn't completely obliterated but it does show that some villains are able to escape the curse at least for a temporary amount of time. Oh, and of course, we still have Black Zetsu who was just incapacitated and not killed. Whether Kishi will address him again in the future is unknown though.

I think, in Kakashi's case, the mask IS quite important if it gets torn off. It's practically his signature look, like... Indiana Jones and his badass hat. If it does get ripped off, I do think it'd signal something life-changing for Kakashi, even if it may not be death....


But then again, considering that mask is usually a source of comedic relief, it just might end up something like:

*Kakashi has just returned from his fight with Obito, his mask ripped off.

The Konoha ninja notices it and react with hilarious surprise.
Kakashi just responds with a shrug and pulls out a replacement, "Always be prepared after all!"

[Dkey]

To what knowledge I gather on this as other forum double issue means one chapter for two weeks.
Basic English suggest that double issue mean two chapters in one week but for them it seems like it means one chapter for two weeks.

Don't know why translators use something else like double week issue, so those that know what that means understand faster.


So after the war who will be Hokage?

If Tsunade lives I have my answer, but if not who would get it? Naruto or Kakashi?

Edited by Dkey, 28 April 2013 - 04:38 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Don't know why translators use something else like double week issue, so those that know what that means understand faster.


So after the war who will be Hokage?

If Tsunade lives I have my answer, but if not who would get it? Naruto or Kakashi?

Maybe Kakashi will propose to be a temp as he may suggest Naruto to be one. Maybe Tsunade may leave like a will during Naruto going to the island. The power of flashback. I mean if they know Sasuke is near, then Kakashi may want to give Naruto the title because he could achieve it after it's done. Plus, perhaps those guys (the one who decides things) will be convinced that Naruto should be one since he's been saving people and winning the war. But who knows.

[Dkey]

The feeling I got from the story and some interviews a saw of this arcs ( shinobi war and ten tails) is that it's not really the last and there will be a small amount of break from that action. Now how exactly will that be accomplished I'm not sure. The fact remains that the village has a dark influence on it, one that Naruto doesn't know about but Sasuke does so. And because of that darkness Sasuke became what he became.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The feeling I got from the story and some interviews a saw of this arcs ( shinobi war and ten tails) is that it's not really the last and there will be a small amount of break from that action. Now how exactly will that be accomplished I'm not sure. The fact remains that the village has a dark influence on it, one that Naruto doesn't know about but Sasuke does so. And because of that darkness Sasuke became what he became.

That and Naruto is reaching to his limit, so perhaps a break since he will be exhausted. Though it does seem Kishi is making everyone taken out of action so the focus will be on Team 7. Like if the next mission or whatever is about stopping Sasuke, the only one left to do the job is Team 7 and few fodders. I think Juubi's attack is one way to make everyone out of picture.