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[六道仙人]

Why are you guys complaining so much about Sakura not being there.

One could easily also complain that Sasuke isn't the main antagonist anymore because he disappeared between chapters 594 and 616. Sheesh, we still know he's the main antagonist ok? just like how Sakura is the main heroine. Like Sasuke, she's obviously preoccupied with something.

This.

What's really bother me is the kitten from anti NS and NH... I just upset when I've seen their comments about this chapter... They're making fun about us and bashing Sakura. This's really what is bothering me... I know that i would ignore them but it isn't easy to suffering about this.

[AzureWaters]

I don't think Sakura disappeared anywhere. She's still on the battlefield but Kishi's not giving her panel time. I'm guessing its not her time yet, but I do worry that "her time" will be something Sasuke related, especially because she's not getting much attention during Naruto's spotlight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm pretty sure that next chapter will talk about Sasuke...

I predict a mini arc about Sasuke, maybe beetween 2 and 3 chapters (or even more); Then we will change the scenario and come back on the battlefield... make sense since from the next chapter will start the volume 65.

the voluma 64 was about Hyuuga Arc (I predict in fact about that a volume cover about Neji and Hinata in addition to Naruto and Obito of course).

Sakura will have a volume for herself...

I do think it will be focus on alliance vs Juubi. I remember how people thought the one with Hinata's confession chapter would mean she will have a cover, but that didn't happen. The volume is most likely something alliance vs. Juubi. Plus, that's one way to find out the color of the beast. The next volume, well I don't know what will it be for now. If we do go back and forth with Sasuke and Naruto, and supposedly we do get to see Sakura, then best guess could be a Team 7 cover, if not, Naruto and Obito with Madara. But as of now, the next volume is a guess.

[CynMichi]

Ok so I just finished reading the new chapter and I see many pages worth of posts following it

I can understand why everyone is feeling kinda down but I feel like things are only getting started. Kishi kept everyone on edge with the whole Obito/Madara thing forever! Laying out plans, then building both apprehension and tension around them seem to be his cup o'tea.
So, that being said, we see Hinata step UP and do exactly what she said she'd do, stand beside Naruto......ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE! Fighting together! Conspicuously missing are the other members of team 7, sans Kakashi, people who are precious to the point he considers them family. (not to mention one he's been in love with from day 1)
Looking back at the face both Sakura and Kakashi made during Hinata's speech in regard to comrades I believe it's foreshadowing the remorse they both felt at killing and attempting to kill teammates. That is why I am bracing myself for Sakura to possibly head for a run in with Sasuke, perhaps after a Tsunade meetup (honestly that's where I HOPE she's headed) she needs all the cards on the table which I think is why Kakashi is staying to face Obito ...there are some truths that need to be told for closure.

Before the cyber objects start to be thrown hear me out

Kishi stated before that he has difficulty writing the part of the heroine correct? Well that led to the disastrous confession and failed attempt to kill Sasuke. Sakura does NOT know the full Uchiha story and what, pray tell, is the overall point that this manga drives home....Essentially ...don't judge a book by its cover cause there's a story as to why it ended up so worn down. The first attempt was with intent to kill, I believe Sakura will have a moment just like Naruto and Hinata wherein she will overtly negate the question of lingering feelings. Be it with chakra punch or talk no jutsu I think Sakura will uncover the entire truth then make the decision to bring Sasuke back....for NARUTO... NOT for herself. Whether she succeeds or not brings us to a possible hostage situation....lets face it Sasuke knows the Naruto from when they were genin, who even then loved Sakura whole heartedly, and I think he'll use that to goad Naruto into a one on one.
Perhaps none of this will transpire but I'm bracing myself for a rehash because that balances each pairing with an opportunity to indulge while openly stating nothing.....then I hope to see the point at which NaruSaku has the main spotlight resulting in canon....Obi/Rin parallel ? I see it coming from a mile away!

On a side note ...while in the anime, viewers (who do not partake in the manga) were falsely led to believe Naruto witnessed Hinata being bullied as a child and leapt to her rescue inducing this idea of a minakushi parallel. Judging by how closely the Hyuuga family guards her, I don't see this as ever happening as far as manga plot line. The more I think about it though, Naruto seems to be enamoured with Sakura for no particular reason from a very early age...this does not fit his character. Granted, it could be just the hair color and that's the "type of woman" his mother was but I don't think so. Somehow I think he witnessed Sakura getting bullied but felt unable to help ...think about it...he spent a lot of time watching other kids play together. This would be exactly what Minato did with Kushina, observe the weakness she perceives in herself and fall in love with it I.E. big ole forehead. I sincerely believe there's a reason Kishi relives that bully scene with Ino....to remind readers not only of their bond as friends but to refresh the idea that Sakura WAS just an average girl with no riches, background, or jutsu (until and unless proven otherwise of course). When the right time comes, as Ino once told her, she will bloom and it will be beautiful.

Could he sweep all that aside and put together whichever character pairings he chooses....absolutely he's the author he can do whatever he likes... however that would be like putting Shino and Ino together because ....let's face it their couple name would be ShIno it's meant to be! :::sarcasm:::

Let us all be patient, good things come to those who wait.....
Sorry for the long post I just had to get this all out!

[sushi.]

Azurewaters, Chucky-kun and you guys, The problem is that when it's not Sakura's "time", it's like she doesn't even exist. This manga is not a game of chess anymore, it's like Kishi is toying with us. I don't like it. When her time comes, she will pop out of nowhere and kick butt. It just seem so unlikely for me that Kishi can do this without making it seem forced.

Edited by sushi., 24 January 2013 - 12:17 AM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Why are you guys complaining so much about Sakura not being there.

One could easily also complain that Sasuke isn't the main antagonist anymore because he disappeared between chapters 594 and 616. Sheesh, we still know he's the main antagonist ok? just like how Sakura is the main heroine. Like Sasuke, she's obviously preoccupied with something.

Sasuke, main antagonist? What? When was this unanimously agreed upon?

At this point, Madara and Tobi (and maybe Orochimaru) are clearly the main enemies. Not Sasuke.

Azurewaters, Chucky-kun and you guys, The problem is that when it's not Sakura's "time", it's like she doesn't even exist. When her time comes, she will pop out of nowhere and kick butt. It just seem so unlikely for me that Kishi can do this without making it seem forced.

This, exactly. Just like what happened with Neji. He disappeared for no reason, then BAM he was suddenly there in the chapter that he needed to die in. It was extremely forced.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 24 January 2013 - 12:17 AM.

[六道仙人]

I don't think Sakura disappeared anywhere. She's still on the battlefield but Kishi's not giving her panel time. I'm guessing its not her time yet, but I do worry that "her time" will be something Sasuke related, especially because she's not getting much attention during Naruto's spotlight.

I very doubt about the bolded

[ALESSE]

This.

What's really bother me is the kitten from anti NS and NH... I just upset when I've seen their comments about this chapter... They're making fun about us and bashing Sakura. This's really what is bothering me... I know that i would ignore them but it isn't easy to suffering about this.

Let's just be patient, theres a reason for everything. Every dog he's day. They got there's now. And we ll get ours to, and ll it ll Ichigo final getsuga style, one hit and game. We will get the last laugh.

[AzureWaters]

Azurewaters, Chucky-kun and you guys, The problem is that when it's not Sakura's "time", it's like she doesn't even exist. When her time comes, she will pop out of nowhere and kick butt. It just seem so unlikely for me that Kishi can do this without making it seem forced.

Unfortunately Kishi has a tendency to do that; ignore characters until they have some plot purpose. He could include her in group shots if he doesn't want to do anything with her for now, but that would make complaints about her incompetency worse.

[Quinny52]

@zacrathedemon - The likey answer there is that Madara was too focused on keeping control of the Ten-Tails that he couldn't afford to use any jutsu. Different story now that he and Obito are currently unhindered.

But still, what do the Alliance have that can seal the Ten-Tails?

[六道仙人]

@zacrathedemon - The likey answer there is that Madara was too focused on keeping control of the Ten-Tails that he couldn't afford to use any jutsu. Different story now that he and Obito are currently unhindered.

But still, what do the Alliance have that can seal the Ten-Tails?

Pretty much probably that the juubi will be kamuized by Kakashi thanks to naruto's chakra... The speech between Shikaku and Kakashi sounds too foreshadowing to me...

Or maybe he'll fail... the juubi needs to have its final form.

[Chatte]

Well, Sasuke might have been missing while others were on the spotligh, however, when he got back, he had all those kick-ass fights. Same with Naruto. Sakura? Nooot...

[sushi.]

@zacrathedemon - The likey answer there is that Madara was too focused on keeping control of the Ten-Tails that he couldn't afford to use any jutsu. Different story now that he and Obito are currently unhindered.

But still, what do the Alliance have that can seal the Ten-Tails?

They have to seal the Ten-Tails within Naruto. It has always been foreshadowed that his the rikudo's blaahblablahyaddayadda...
A tailed beast always needs a Jinchuuriki, or else they would've just sealed them in scrolls forever.
My prediction is that after Madara and Obito are defeated, Naruto will talk to the Juubi. I don't think he's evil, he's the creator of everything, just saying! XD The Juubi may as well let himself be sealed because he is touched with Naruto's TNJ.. -__- I don't think they can defeat it, at least not be able to seal it. Sai is a sealer, but does he have a seal that can hold the kittening G-O-D permanently? Doubt it..
This is my thoughts, I don't want it to happen after all the bonding with Kurama though. Maybe they'll become one or something, but i want Kurama.

Let's just be patient, theres a reason for everything. Every dog he's day. They got there's now. And we ll get ours to, and ll it ll Ichigo final getsuga style, one hit and game. We will get the last laugh.

That's not our point. Even if Sakura gets her time, we get the last laugh, this story doesn't flow well anymore. Even if the ending is good, the mid-part counts as well. When the series ends, it will be uncompleted because Kishi both rushed things and dragged things out, even forgot things that needed to be put in right there and then.

Well, Sasuke might have been missing while others were on the spotligh, however, when he got back, he had all those kick-ass fights. Same with Naruto. Sakura? Nooot...

It means it's just Kishi's writing style. Not that I am a fond of it, he has too much to focus on. switches-all-dayy...zzz

Edited by sushi., 24 January 2013 - 12:29 AM.

[Quinny52]

@六道仙人- I agree. Madara's statement about it's final form is foreshadowing enough for this plan to not work.

Despite being seperated from their new toy, Obito and Madara don't seem too fazed...

.... or is that typical Uchiha arrogance?

@sushi - I predicted that would happen too, but not just yet. I considered Naruto getting the Ten-Tails to be just before the series ends.

Also, didn't Kurama state that this beast possesses neither feelings nor ideals. It's a force of nature than can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. TNJ isn't gonna work against that thing.

Edited by Quinny52, 24 January 2013 - 12:39 AM.

[sushi.]

Do you think Madara and Tobi can use the Rinnegan to suck up the nine-tailled cloakes? whoops, just remembered they are disconnected to the Juubi. But if they get the connection again, maybe it will help the Juubi reach it's final form? Then Madara may lose control of it, and I want to see what the Juubi thinks of all this stuff. All the other Juubis can talk. This beast must be more than a powerhouse.

(oh..and btw was it Bijuu or Juubi? lol)
am I thinking too much? XDD

Edited by sushi., 24 January 2013 - 12:40 AM.

[Zatheko]

I know sakura will get her time, but its just that we shouldn't have to wait for it, she is a MAIN character right? So she shouldn't be treated like a side character when it is not her time, even if it is others peoples time to shine she should still be getting screen time because she should be on a higher level then everyone except naruto and sasuke. Kishi better have something big planned for making her non existent.

[CynMichi]

That's not our point. Even if Sakura gets her time, we get the last laugh, this story doesn't flow well anymore. Even if the ending is good, the mid-part counts as well. When the series ends, it will be uncompleted because Kishi both rushed things and dragged things out, even forgot things that needed to be put in right there and then.

I think Sakuras development in terms of battle prowess have been ignored because she is a medic first and foremost. We see her skill multiple times throughout the series in regard to healing and chakra manipulation, and we know Tsunade trained her for defense resorting to attack only when neccessary. Knowing Tsunades abilities where medical ninjutsu is concerned I.e. sealing Oro's arms and creation rebirth, it seems she would pass this on to her star apprentice. I feel like he has quietly aluded to the fact that Sakura has surpassed her master, he is just waiting for the right time to unveil the extent of her abilities.

[Chatte]

I know sakura will get her time, but its just that we shouldn't have to wait for it, she is a MAIN character right? So she shouldn't be treated like a side character when it is not her time, even if it is others peoples time to shine she should still be getting screen time because she should be on a higher level then everyone except naruto and sasuke. Kishi better have something big planned for making her non existent.

Exactly my point...
I mean, look at the reactions I've been getting:

I find it funny that you are trying to justify Sakura's disappearance as a coincidence (for artistic integrity's sake). Whether she receives attention or not, a vast majority of readers have come to acknowledge her as a useless character to the story. In just a few short chapters, Hinata has made more of impression on Naruto than Sakura has. I'm not saying the author has nothing planned for Sakura. However, if it isn't something big, it will justify her uselessness as a character.

[Quinny52]

@CynMichi - Agree with you except for one thing: Tsunade didn't seal Orochimaru's arms, Hiruzen Sarutobi (3rd Hokage) did. Oro went to Tsunade to ask her to heal his arms.

But the point you made about Tsunade's abillities is what I've brought up before; the tenets of the medic-nin were deliberately introduced by Kishi to provide an appropriate obstacle that Sakura needs to overcome. The recipe is there to provide focus for the physical development she's lacked since the start of part 2 to balance out her mental and emotional growth in the series so far. If Sakura is to surpass Tsunade, she has to become powerful enough that she doesn't have to be bound by those medic rules. This is where I predict her latent genjutsu prowess will resurface, and the possibility of her attaining slug sage mode (humid bone forest).

Edited by Quinny52, 24 January 2013 - 01:02 AM.

[CynMichi]

Exactly my point...
I mean, look at the reactions I've been getting:

I find it funny that you are trying to justify Sakura's disappearance as a coincidence (for artistic integrity's sake). Whether she receives attention or not, a vast majority of readers have come to acknowledge her as a useless character to the story. In just a few short chapters, Hinata has made more of impression on Naruto than Sakura has. I'm not saying the author has nothing planned for Sakura. However, if it isn't something big, it will justify her uselessness as a character.

I would take all this backlash with a grain of salt....they insult her character because they fear the outcome that I believe is inevitable. People like to talk a big game to hide their own looming insecurities. I view it as a kin to name calling because you have no further information to back up your viewpoint so you resort to base insults. This road goes both ways of course and both sides of any argument are going to get heated when they feel threatened ...ahem 615.... Just think of it like this, what is the one thing in all stories that heroes have in common? They make a grand entrance and save they day just in time most often with a killer move/ability. I really feel like there is going to be NO blending into the background for Sakura when this fight is over!