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#621 kirabook

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:47 PM

Other than the "Thank you", I'm not sure how those panels relate.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:49 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Dec 28 2012, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can anyone tell me who said "Never letting go of that hand" line, is it Hinata, Naruto, or Kishi.


surely from Hinata, but guys.... you've to know that isn't Kishimoto to write those sidetext...they come from editor. That's why those sidetext are removed from volume version.... They aren't original quotes from the author.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 27 2012, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
surely from Hinata, but guys.... you've to know that isn't Kishimoto to write those sidetext...they come from editor. That's why those sidetext are removed from volume version.... They aren't original quotes from the author.

I think that quote was one of those texts we got on the side of the page often, at the beginning or end of the chapter. Sometimes they're from a character, or they're just a general thought relating to the picture or chapter or whatever. But, I've heard once before that those texts don't come from Kishi, and I was wondering if this is actually true? Like, does anyone have a source for it or...?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:55 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 27 2012, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
surely from Hinata, but guys.... you've to know that isn't Kishimoto to write those sidetext...they come from editor. That's why those sidetext are removed from volume version.... They aren't original quotes from the author.

You are probably right but it does not make any sense with the full text.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:56 PM

QUOTE (mydearbeloved @ Dec 28 2012, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that quote was one of those texts we got on the side of the page often, at the beginning or end of the chapter. Sometimes they're from a character, or they're just a general thought relating to the picture or chapter or whatever. But, I've heard once before that those texts don't come from Kishi, and I was wondering if this is actually true? Like, does anyone have a source for it or...?


it's true, 100% confirmed. It was stated on WSJ once a time.... I repeat it again, that's why those quotes are removed from tankobon version.

は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 28 2012, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
here bullsh** coming :



what have you done, kishi?

It's a "thank you".

This chapter reminded me of the below scenes.
-Rock Lee jumping in the Forest of Death, fighting the sound ninjas to protect Sakura with a "I'll protect you with my life."
Sakura thanking him in the end saying, "Thank you. Because of you I feel as I have gotten stronger."

-Sakura screaming to Sasuke, during the Sasuke vs. Orochimaru battle in the Forest of Death, "Sasuke-kun! At least Naruto is not a coward, right!?" and giving Sasuke courage.
-Sakura hugging Sasuke from behind when he got the curse mark, wishing he will stop. And he did get over that curse mark power.
In the end of Part 1, he told her "Thank you" and laid her on the bench (probably bridal style).

These are all scenes where the person gets a grateful acknowledgement from the person they love for supporting and giving courage to said person.
The person being acknowledged finally gets to know that they are acknowledged, and even if their feelings are still there, they stop actively chasing that person. (Example: Rock Lee stop asking Sakura to go out with him, Since Part 2 Sakura stopped actively pursuing Sasuke in a romantic sense, she wants him back as a teammate) The scenes may come off looking quite romantic with a genuine "thank you" and the person realizing that there was somebody else being there for them all along, but in the end, it's genuine acknowledgement. Nothing less, nothing more. It doesn't change the romance aspect of the person's feelings.

And Finally! Hinata got her "thank you" she deserves from the guy she has supported and gave courage. And as she stated in previous chapters, she WILL stop chasing him. This is just another parallel.

Btw, I'm glad people has calmed down. I guess it takes a day for people to calm down....

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 28 December 2012 - 12:04 AM.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:59 PM

QUOTE (ramenanmitsu @ Dec 28 2012, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a "thank you".

This chapter reminded me of the below scenes.
-Rock Lee jumping in the Forest of Death, fighting the sound ninjas to protect Sakura with a "I'll protect you with my life."
Sakura thanking him in the end saying, "Thank you. Because of you I feel as I have gotten stronger."

-Sakura screaming to Sasuke, during the Sasuke vs. Orochimaru battle in the Forest of Death, "Sasuke-kun! At least Naruto is not a coward, right!?" and giving Sasuke courage.
-Sakura hugging Sasuke from behind when he got the curse mark, wishing he will stop. And he did get over that curse mark power.
In the end of Part 1, he told her "Thank you" and laid her on the bench (probably bridal style).

These are all scenes where the person gets a grateful acknowledgement from the person they love for supporting and giving courage to said person.
The person being acknowledged finally gets to know that they are acknowledged, and even if their feelings are still there, they stop actively chasing that person. (Example: Rock Lee stop asking Sakura to go out with him, Since Part 2 Sakura stopped actively pursuing Sasuke in a romantic sense, she wants him back as a teammate)

And Finally! Hinata got her "thank you" she deserves from the guy she has supported and gave courage. And as she stated in previous chapters, she WILL stop chasing him. This is just another parallel.


I really really hope that you're right....

は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:04 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 27 2012, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's true, 100% confirmed. It was stated on WSJ once a time.... I repeat it again, that's why those quotes are removed from tankobon version.

If that statement didn't come from Naruto, and was in fact a generalized statement from the editor, then I don't even feel threatened by this chapter anymore. happy.gif

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:09 AM

Man I have no idea what to say about this chapter. Everyone else has pretty much covered everything in here. If it wasn't for work i would have been wrote something but I am content with everyone's comments I read. Anything I say now is kind of just repeating what everyone else said but i would say this

zacrathedemon5 your 30 page prediction came true a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:15 AM

What chapter was the one where Hinata said that she would hold Naruto's hand again? I want to see the order of characters that give their thoughts about Naruto before Sakura does.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 28 2012, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that statement didn't come from Naruto, and was in fact a generalized statement from the editor, then I don't even feel threatened by this chapter anymore. happy.gif

Exactly this was the moment I tought Naruto was reciprociting Hinata's feelings now that's confirmed it's not Naruto (and I hope is) I feel so much better.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:21 AM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Dec 28 2012, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What chapter was the one where Hinata said that she would hold Naruto's hand again? I want to see the order of characters that give their thoughts about Naruto before Sakura does.


chapter 573.

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Dec 28 2012, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly this was the moment I tought Naruto was reciprociting Hinata's feelings now that's confirmed it's not Naruto (and I hope is) I feel so much better.


even if it was written by editor, it was obviously that it was hinata's quote. It make sense with her attitude and fetishism...

Edited by 六道仙人, 28 December 2012 - 12:24 AM.

は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Dec 27 2012, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly this was the moment I tought Naruto was reciprociting Hinata's feelings now that's confirmed it's not Naruto (and I hope is) I feel so much better.

^ This. If it's true, then that means all of the romantic intent was from Hinata's perspective (as per usual). Naruto held her hand to give her chakra and acknowledged her, but his feelings throughout the chapter are considered platonic. After all, he loves Sakura-chan. smile.gif

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even if it was written by editor, it was obviously that it was hinata's quote. It make sense with her attitude and fetishism...

That's true too. I found it odd trying to place that into her dialogue about his hand, because it didn't flow with her thoughts, but at the same time it didn't seem like something Naruto would say. Also, I found it odd that it was off to the side and not included in any of the panels. Thanks for looking that up! happy.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 28 December 2012 - 12:28 AM.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

Editor's note are almost always wrong, they may have added that for Hinata but I'm not sure that's what she really thinks.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:32 AM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Dec 27 2012, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Editor's note are almost always wrong, they may have added that for Hinata but I'm not sure that's what she really thinks.

I remember the last Editor's note at ch 573 when it says "Carnage Enters The Battlefield" and Sasuke did not enter the battlefield.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Dec 27 2012, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember the last Editor's note at ch 573 when it says "Carnage Enters The Battlefield" and Sasuke did not enter the battlefield.

Seriously? I don't remember that editor's note. LOL. That's hilarious. laugh.gif
It seems like they pick a generic statement to go along with the theme of the chapter without really knowing what Kishimoto plans to do.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Dec 28 2012, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Editor's note are almost always wrong, they may have added that for Hinata but I'm not sure that's what she really thinks.


Speaking of which I gain knowledge that Kishi changed even 4 times his editor in 5 years... I wouldn't like that this stuff could force Kishimoto about the story...

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 28 2012, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously? I don't remember that editor's note. LOL. That's hilarious. laugh.gif
It seems like they pick a generic statement to go along with the theme of the chapter without really knowing what Kishimoto plans to do.


or when Tobi takes baby Naruto from Kushina and Minato e the final sidetext was something like "Will baby Naruto survive?!" I did laught to that.... the most stupid sidetext I've never seen in my life. LOL

Edited by 六道仙人, 28 December 2012 - 12:36 AM.

は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Dec 28 2012, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember the last Editor's note at ch 573 when it says "Carnage Enters The Battlefield" and Sasuke did not enter the battlefield.

laugh.gif such carnage, just one example but there are far more than this one.
Now let's see where this goes Hinata has fulfilled all she told she would do in chapter 573, she said she would be holding his hands and it's done, she said she would walk by his side and it's done there's only one last part to do and it is to "stop chasing after Naruto" and go back to the background.



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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 27 2012, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
or when Tobi takes baby Naruto from Kushina and Minato e the final sidetext was something like "Will baby Naruto survive?!" I did laught to that.... the most stupid sidetext I've never seen in my life. LOL

Such suspense!! 111189.gif

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

Slextrem nice to see you posting this frequently. smile.gif

Like you I do believe that it's way to early to call a pairing canon before the other aspect of the love triangle parties feelings are resolved, I remember Naruto stating earlier that he hates people who lie to themselves, him suddenly loving Hinata will makes him fickle and really dishonest person since you cannot love a new person when you never thought about moving on from your first love or worst seen this new person in a romantic light.

This is also the main reason why I never thought that Sakura stopped loving Sasuke, I only believed that their would be a time when she thought about their history together and make a choice, with Naruto I expect the same not only for him to think about Sakura but also Hinata, not just fall in love with her out off nowhere. This is why I call it a big NH boost when it comes to pairing.


After RTN and it ways it was presented I have a hard time not believing in NS, while I might acknowledge the other pairing moments I still think NS will be the end game, I could be wrong since this is Kishi I'm talking about, but I do feel that it's way to early to call a pairing canon and the ones that are bragging about it might get their dreams shattered, sometimes is good to be civil about something until the facts are clear and their is no doubt.

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