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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Nov 5 2011, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup because he hasnt stated he liked/love's Hinata either.


Wait who? Are ya'll talking about me again because I don't wanna go into this whole situation again ¬_¬

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:57 PM

^^ Nope, we were refering to Naruto or this quote, I think.

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''WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WITH HIS NARUSAKU FILLERS IN THE LATEST SHIPPUDEN FILLER EPISODE I'M GONNA KILL THOSE WHO INVENTED THE PLOT AAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF NARUTO NEVER SAID IN SHIPPUDEN THAT'S HE'S IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, ESPECIALLY NOT AFTER HINATA'S CONFESSION, HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIS FEELINGS FOR SAKURA, MANGA IS WAY AHEAD OF ANIME AND IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NARUTO STILL HAVING MORE THAN "JUST FRIENDS" FEELINGS FOR SAKURA. WHY ARE YOU DESTROYING THE ANIME, WHY WHY WHY''

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#6363 LegendaryArcanine42

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 5 2011, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ Nope, we were refering to Naruto or this quote, I think.



The heck is that guy? He makes me sound tolerable... And that's a hard thing to do :3

As much as I'd like to cross-examine this guy, it seems like you lot have already devoured that dish already biggrin.gif

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 5 2011, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So apparently this is what people are saying, and I direct quote.

''WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WITH HIS NARUSAKU FILLERS IN THE LATEST SHIPPUDEN FILLER EPISODE I'M GONNA KILL THOSE WHO INVENTED THE PLOT AAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF NARUTO NEVER SAID IN SHIPPUDEN THAT'S HE'S IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, ESPECIALLY NOT AFTER HINATA'S CONFESSION, HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIS FEELINGS FOR SAKURA, MANGA IS WAY AHEAD OF ANIME AND IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NARUTO STILL HAVING MORE THAN "JUST FRIENDS" FEELINGS FOR SAKURA. WHY ARE YOU DESTROYING THE ANIME, WHY WHY WHY''

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Yes I'm afraid this is exactly how a NH and SS fan who is only watching the anime would react. Because in the manga wait didn't Naruto said in ch 3 that he likes Sakura??? wait didn't he said in ch 457 that he couldn't confess his feelings for Sakura because he couldn't keep his promises??? Seriously. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 5 2011, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So apparently this is what people are saying, and I direct quote.

''WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WITH HIS NARUSAKU FILLERS IN THE LATEST SHIPPUDEN FILLER EPISODE I'M GONNA KILL THOSE WHO INVENTED THE PLOT AAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF NARUTO NEVER SAID IN SHIPPUDEN THAT'S HE'S IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, ESPECIALLY NOT AFTER HINATA'S CONFESSION, HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIS FEELINGS FOR SAKURA, MANGA IS WAY AHEAD OF ANIME AND IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NARUTO STILL HAVING MORE THAN "JUST FRIENDS" FEELINGS FOR SAKURA. WHY ARE YOU DESTROYING THE ANIME, WHY WHY WHY''

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ohboy.png I THOUGHT so fu.png denying facts rolleyes.gif Naruto has stated that He loves Sakura in the manga it's not bias It's a fact cool.gif It's ALL up to Sakura now

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:45 PM

I really think that Kishi is trolling Sakura until she clear her feelings for Sasuke.

Havin Sakura movin on to Narito now, will make her seen shallow other will say that
she is with Naruto because Sasuke is not around or Sasuke is a bad person but she still love Sasuke and will never love Naruto.

Kishi want Naruto to be with the person he really Love but he cannot kill of Sasuke he need Sakura
to choose Naruto after having a Redeemed Sasuke. that way NaruSaku can look believable.
or maybe is me making excuses.

Lest'a have a look:


let's forget about the parallel of Jiraiya Tsunade and Minato Kushina for a moment.

-let's think about Sai's question regarding Sakura's feeling. cut off by Naruto

-Yamato Speech (is not the small things you do is how you really feel, only looking at you Sakura I can actually say that you) cut off by Naruto.

-Sakura trying to understand the feelings she feels toward naruto

-Sakura admitting that Naruto is the only person who makes her feel Save and been sentirce about the only person she genuinely and fully trusts.

-Sakura telling Naruto is not Gaary I worry about is Cut of by Naruto.

Now

-Naruto comment in chapter 3
-Naruto wish to see her Smile again
-Naruto wants to be there for her
-Sakura been the only person Naruto like romanticly since the start
-Chapter 457 expline what he plan to do.


Why will Kishi do all of this to end the Manga NH and SS


You all notice there was many moments I did not mention.


This is Drama at is best but Kishi already Make is plan clear from the start.
He only needed to know how to go about it like he say in that interview.

Edited by donjoseph19, 05 November 2011 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Nov 5 2011, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really think that Kishi is trolling Sakura until she clear her feelings for Sasuke.

Havin Sakura movin on to Narito now, will make her seen shallow other will say that


True she can't resolve her conflicted feelings for Sasuke as he is Now. But I at least want a moment where she acknowledges her feelings for Naruto at least and I mean a direct statement but not try to move on to him yet till Sasuke is redeemed. You know, like how Winry acknowledged she was in love with Edward biggrin.gif but they canonically did not be come a couple until everything was resolved. cool.gif Something like that

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:54 PM

Its just plain too much to not have it end with NaruSaku, but yeah you're right, Donjoseph, Kishi is doing these other pairings' "hints" to just build up the hype and the opposition to probably give that blockbuster feeling at the end where it will all come together. The problem for me is that he's built the other two "pairings" in a not as strong manner as NaruSaku, that its plain obvious what the ending pairing is going to be. Now, if he had built the opposition in a stronger manner, where NaruSaku has some competition to overcome, then maybe I can respect it further, but once again that is not the case.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:09 PM

Someone else says, and I quote.

''I think this episode totally contradicted itself with the Manga. In the Manga he’s all totally protective of Hinata and in this episode it’s all about Sakura?
WTF?!?!
If NaruHina doesn’t happen I’m going to be kittening pissed!!!!!!! ''


Protective of Hinata... LOL.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Nov 5 2011, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True she can't resolve her conflicted feelings for Sasuke as he is Now. But I at least want a moment where she acknowledges her feelings for Naruto at least and I mean a direct statement but not try to move on to him yet till Sasuke is redeemed. You know, like how Winry acknowledged she was in love with Edward biggrin.gif but they canonically did not be come a couple until everything was resolved. cool.gif Something like that


I have a strong feeling that the real Naruto will go with Sakura
to meet Sasuke at the final fight He may say that he need her
after Itachi speech about believing is his friends, She already give up but I feel she will be there
they stressed so much about saving Sasuke together.

And Naruto final words to Sasuke Naruto will make Sakura understand that Naruto is the wonderful person that is bond to be a great man. that man is Naruto the person she always love but refuse to acknowledge.

Edited by donjoseph19, 05 November 2011 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 5 2011, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
''I think this episode totally contradicted itself with the Manga. In the Manga he’s all totally protective of Hinata and in this episode it’s all about Sakura?
WTF?!?!
If NaruHina doesn’t happen I’m going to be kittening pissed!!!!!!! ''


Hmmm, Iamfenris, I think its best to ignore these comments, because I don't think this is going anywhere. I mean the commentator didn't even say how Kishi is protective of Hinata and probably don't even know much about the dynamics of Naruto and Sakura.

I mean its one thing to go ahead and support a non-NaruSaku pairing like NaruHina and NaruIno, because I don't mind, but its another thing to go ahead and said certain things where non-bias people are going to be thinking, wtf? If this person is spewing childish and illogical statements, I might not take the pairing he/she supporting seriously which hurts the credibility of the pairing.

To be fair and honest, I don't mind the idea of Naruhina in terms of characteristics, but as a canon pairing, it has to be more than just characteristics alone. It has to be about interaction and dynamics, and you all know how much interaction is fueled when it defines a canon pairing.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 5 2011, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone else says, and I quote.

''I think this episode totally contradicted itself with the Manga. In the Manga he’s all totally protective of Hinata and in this episode it’s all about Sakura?
WTF?!?!
If NaruHina doesn’t happen I’m going to be kittening pissed!!!!!!! ''


Protective of Hinata... LOL.


Well, I think we all now he's gonna feel about the ending of Naruto then... I think it'd be better for the entire human race if he just ragequits, moves to Bleach and starts complaining about IchiHime... maybe he'd have a better case there tongue.gif

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 5 2011, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its just plain too much to not have it end with NaruSaku, but yeah you're right, Donjoseph, Kishi is doing these other pairings' "hints" to just build up the hype and the opposition to probably give that blockbuster feeling at the end where it will all come together. The problem for me is that he's built the other two "pairings" in a not as strong manner as NaruSaku, that its plain obvious what the ending pairing is going to be. Now, if he had built the opposition in a stronger manner, where NaruSaku has some competition to overcome, then maybe I can respect it further, but once again that is not the case.



Naru Hina only have around 20 interaction moments in the Manga, biggest one 437

The only pairing that have some real one side romantic development but involving the other side is SS and NS


Problem with SS in the negative stuff in part 2

NS up and downs

NH is to little, really too little.

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Edited by donjoseph19, 05 November 2011 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Nov 6 2011, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Protective of Hinata... LOL.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (ChidoriLuv @ Nov 5 2011, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pfffft. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Not pfft... Naruto is protective over Hinata... just like he is with everyone else... but he is most protective over Sakura, just look at who he has protected the most.. enough said.. even a 5 year old could understand this.

But if you wanted to know why the NH fans are doing this, its because the end is very close and all they have left for ammo in this pairing war is trolling words. Of course its all false, but isn't NH false? We have about 200 moments compared to their 18... and all of theirs was basically one sided, or just something as simple as Naruto saying "I like (like doesn't mean love) people (people not girls) like you. And thats my reasoning behind why NH fans are trolling.

Side note: I'm seeing alot of NH fans say that Naruto is in love with Hinata. I mean, did these people only read the latest 30 chapters or something? Naruto has already shown Hinata that he only likes (yeah, see how like doesn't mean love) her as a friend. He even told himself that he would be happier than anything if Sakura picked him, and doesn't Kishi want Naruto to be the happiest in the end?

When I look at NH, I see Naruto not getting what he wants and going for a girl that 1)he barely knows, and 2) a girl that will not make Naruto a better man. Kushina and Minato will agree with what I just said, and I think Hinata would too, so if it came to the point that Hinata had a chance, I think even Hinata would say she wasn't the one for Naruto. As for SS, if Sasuke had a chance, I think either Sasuke would say he doesn't deserve Sakura, or Sakura would reject Sasuke. I mean, if Sasuke turns good, don't you think he will need to thank Naruto somehow anyway? Sasuke isn't going to turn all romantic on Sakura and steal her from Naruto without permission. I believe he would tell her that Naruto is the one, and Sakura would understand.

I'll stop here before I go all day about all my predictions... Just remember, SS and NH both lack what a true canon relationship needs, and thats (true) love.. Not non of that one day the character chances his/her mind and decides to love someone else (like Sasuke or Naruto). Sasuke- never liked Sakura... Naruto- never loved Hinata and always loved Sakura (well loved her ever since he was in the academy). happy.gif

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 09:54 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Nov 5 2011, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a strong feeling that the real Naruto will go with Sakura
to meet Sasuke at the final fight He may say that he need her
after Itachi speech about believing is his friends, She already give up but I feel she will be there
they stressed so much about saving Sasuke together.

And Naruto final words to Sasuke Naruto will make Sakura understand that Naruto is the wonderful person that is bond to be a great man. that man is Naruto the person she always love but refuse to acknowledge.


Porque he enterado recientemente de su origen español, voy a tratar de hablar español ...
Because I have recently learned of your spanish origin, I'm going to attempt to speak spanish...

Creo que esta es una visión muy cliché de la batalla final ... Sasuke no puede morir en el campo de batalla, y puede sobrevivir a ejecutar o Konoha, o que pudiera vivir y restaurar su clan con Chouji o alguien así ...
I believe that this is a very cliche view of the final showdown... Sasuke may not die on the battlefield, and may survive to be executed or Konoha, or he could live and restore his clan with Chouji or someone like that...

A pesar de que era una broma, si en realidad terminó con Chouji me iba a encontrar que hilarante!
Even though that was a joke, if he actually ended up with Chouji I'd find that hilarious!

Con suerte, usted puede entender lo que estaba diciendo, y si no, entonces es en Inglés por debajo de ... Yo ya estoy consciente del hecho de que mi español no es muy buena ...
Hopefully, you could understand what I was saying, and if you couldn't, then it's in English underneath... I'm already aware of the fact that my Spanish isn't very good...

I feel like I've accomplished something today smile.gif

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Nov 5 2011, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not pfft... Naruto is protective over Hinata... just like he is with everyone else... but he is most protective over Sakura, just look at who he has protected the most.. enough said.. even a 5 year old could understand this.

But if you wanted to know why the NH fans are doing this, its because the end is very close and all they have left for ammo in this pairing war is trolling words. Of course its all false, but isn't NH false? We have about 200 moments compared to their 18... and all of theirs was basically one sided, or just something as simple as Naruto saying "I like (like doesn't mean love) people (people not girls) like you. And thats my reasoning behind why NH fans are trolling.

Side note: I'm seeing alot of NH fans say that Naruto is in love with Hinata. I mean, did these people only read the latest 30 chapters or something? Naruto has already shown Hinata that he only likes (yeah, see how like doesn't mean love) her as a friend. He even told himself that he would be happier than anything if Sakura picked him, and doesn't Kishi want Naruto to be the happiest in the end?

When I look at NH, I see Naruto not getting what he wants and going for a girl that 1)he barely knows, and 2) a girl that will not make Naruto a better man. Kushina and Minato will agree with what I just said, and I think Hinata would too, so if it came to the point that Hinata had a chance, I think even Hinata would say she wasn't the one for Naruto. As for SS, if Sasuke had a chance, I think either Sasuke would say he doesn't deserve Sakura, or Sakura would reject Sasuke. I mean, if Sasuke turns good, don't you think he will need to thank Naruto somehow anyway? Sasuke isn't going to turn all romantic on Sakura and steal her from Naruto without permission. I believe he would tell her that Naruto is the one, and Sakura would understand.

I'll stop here before I go all day about all my predictions... Just remember, SS and NH both lack what a true canon relationship needs, and thats (true) love.. Not non of that one day the character chances his/her mind and decides to love someone else (like Sasuke or Naruto). Sasuke- never liked Sakura... Naruto- never loved Hinata and always loved Sakura (well loved her ever since he was in the academy). happy.gif



Great post thats the same way I think Hinata will tell Naruto is ok she understand

Sasuke already know that Naruto would give his life for Sakura and he really care about her happiness.





QUOTE (LegendaryArcanine42 @ Nov 5 2011, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Porque he enterado recientemente de su origen español, voy a tratar de hablar español ...
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Creo que esta es una visión muy cliché de la batalla final ... Sasuke no puede morir en el campo de batalla, y puede sobrevivir a ejecutar o Konoha, o que pudiera vivir y restaurar su clan con Chouji o alguien así ...
I believe that this is a very cliche view of the final showdown... Sasuke may not die on the battlefield, and may survive to be executed or Konoha, or he could live and restore his clan with Chouji or someone like that...

A pesar de que era una broma, si en realidad terminó con Chouji me iba a encontrar que hilarante!
Even though that was a joke, if he actually ended up with Chouji I'd find that hilarious!

Con suerte, usted puede entender lo que estaba diciendo, y si no, entonces es en Inglés por debajo de ... Yo ya estoy consciente del hecho de que mi español no es muy buena ...
Hopefully, you could understand what I was saying, and if you couldn't, then it's in English underneath... I'm already aware of the fact that my Spanish isn't very good...

I feel like I've accomplished something today smile.gif



That's so sweet Thank you very much but I feel better reading English my problem is writing it.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:22 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Nov 6 2011, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not pfft... Naruto is protective over Hinata... just like he is with everyone else... but he is most protective over Sakura, just look at who he has protected the most.. enough said.. even a 5 year old could understand this.

Let me rephrase what I quoted. Overprotective of Hinata. Pffft. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Yes, he's protective of everyone, including her, but... yeah, you said so yourself, so you get the point.

As for this:

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Naruto has already shown Hinata that he only likes (yeah, see how like doesn't mean love) her as a friend.

To be honest I don't even think that Naruto's "friendship" with Hinata is a good one either. For a romantic relationship to happen, the couple needs to have a lot of interaction between them. The same can go for friends, albeit in a platonic way. Now, the only reason people think they are good friends is because they just so happen to be in the same large group team [Rookie 9, K11], hence people think that's the way they can converse and interact with each other, thus they can be friends. Yet, Naruto has talked to Hinata less than 10 times throughout 500+ chapters, and he only sees her as a friend. So basically we all just assume them two are friends for the sake of putting them together in some way. I do that too, I'll admit.

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He even told himself that he would be happier than anything if Sakura picked him, and doesn't Kishi want Naruto to be the happiest in the end?

Yes, this is true. However, don't forget that Naruto would still be happy even if Sakura picked a different significant other [in this case, Sasuke]. What Naruto really cares about is not necessarily winning Sakura over, but for her happiness. Remember what happened in chapter 3? Naruto only had a crush on Sakura beforehand, but then during this time he finally realised why he loved her. She was like him, wanting to be acknowledged [which is the only reason why she started liking Sasuke in their academy years]. This and Naruto's devotion [stuff like the POAL] is what makes NS what it is, not just the fact that he wants to win her over, because no matter what Sakura chooses, Naruto would be happy either way. As long as she's happy, he's happy too smile.gif

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As for SS, if Sasuke had a chance, I think either Sasuke would say he doesn't deserve Sakura, or Sakura would reject Sasuke. I mean, if Sasuke turns good, don't you think he will need to thank Naruto somehow anyway? Sasuke isn't going to turn all romantic on Sakura and steal her from Naruto without permission. I believe he would tell her that Naruto is the one, and Sakura would understand.

Please don't go on about Sasuke having a chance. He's had so many, yet he's never given each one a second thought or even noticed them. If his personality was different, yet he still didn't like Sakura that way, then I could see this happening. But since that's not the case, he really couldn't care any more less about that subject. He's never been that way and he never will be that way. For Sasuke to do a complete 180° turn in his personality, there needs to be a CRAPLOAD of development. He's been like this since the start of the manga, and Kishi-sensei had the chance to develop Sasuke into a good person. Yet, it's been 500+ chapters and he never took that chance, so I'm inclined to believe that Sasuke is never gonna change the way he is sooner or later.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE (ChidoriLuv @ Nov 5 2011, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, this is true. However, don't forget that Naruto would still be happy even if Sakura picked a different significant other [in this case, Sasuke]. What Naruto really cares about is not necessarily winning Sakura over, but for her happiness. Remember what happened in chapter 3? Naruto only had a crush on Sakura beforehand, but then during this time he finally realised why he loved her. She was like him, wanting to be acknowledged [which is the only reason why she started liking Sasuke in their academy years]. This and Naruto's devotion [stuff like the POAL] is what makes NS what it is, not just the fact that he wants to win her over, because no matter what Sakura chooses, Naruto would be happy either way. As long as she's happy, he's happy too smile.gif


I said for him to be the happiest, not just happy. Of course he would be happy if she was happy, but he said he would be the (happiest) if she picked him. happy.gif

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:44 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Nov 5 2011, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I said for him to be the happiest, not just happy. Of course he would be happy if she was happy, but he said he would be the (happiest) if she picked him. happy.gif

But your forgeting he only said that in a filler episode you cant use that.

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