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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:27 PM

I'm going to write one final LAP before chapter. I should...let it go.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:27 PM

That's just an anime thing, it could mean anything I think.. Like when Sakura confessed to Naruto in the anime, his eyes were quivering like that. But I agree, he doesn't look like he's just fallen in love with her or anything. Just kind of caught off guard, surprised or something.

Or it's what Konan said.

 

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:27 PM

Just gonna copy and paste this here: Yes, which was interpreted the wrong way by many Naruto fans. Lots of fans believed she meant find someone who shares the same temper as her, which points at Sakura (Since really that is the only thing they have in common. Seriously that's it. Don't believe me, read the manga again. And Naruto is exactly like his mother personality wise, as stated by Kakashi, Tsunade, etc. in the manga. So to Narusaku fans it would literally be KushinaxKushina, in terms of going by their logic.) What Kushina really must have meant, must have been: Find someone like me who loves you, as I do. Her motherly advice was something that any mother in her place would have said. It was just motherly advice, that's all it was. She wasn't telling him go after Sakura or Hinata. She doesn't even know who they are. So finding someone like his mother is irrelevant to both NaruHina and Narusaku. Still looking back at Kushina's and Minato's past has a very eerie resemblance to how Naruto treated Hinata when they were children. Like Minato, Hinata stalked Naruto, watched him from afar when they were kids, and secretly cheered him on. Just like Minato, Hinata didn't regard her life, when she jumped in to save Naruto against Pain. Minato saved Kushina when she really needed saving as well. Both of them are quiet, and keep to themselves, Kushina and Naruto are loud and obnoxious. The parallels don't stop there: Kushina was changed by Minato and began liking her red hair, Naruto changed Hinata, and she  began liking herself more, and gained more confidence through his bright cheery personality and guidance. Why would Kishimoto, go through the trouble of matching these two couples and share some similarities between them if he never intended NaruHina from the start? Using a parallel to support one pairing against the other, isn't a good idea, because it really doesn't matter to what Naruto wants for himself. Eat your vegetables, and respect your teachers, Naruto does the complete opposite to what his parents wished him to do. Going by Narusaku logic: He would actually obey his mother go with the girl who shares one thing in common with her. Naruto has been in love with Sakura all of his life. He can't change his romantic feelings. (Erm, the manga says otherwise) (Sakura doesn't even support Narusaku)  That is completely ludicrous, in the end Naruto will choose whom he will be happy with, and it doesn't matter what his parents wished for in him. They will be happy with his choice no matter which girl he chooses. The Last Naruto movie points towards Hinata, the girl the author intended Naruto to be with throughout the manga, because he focused so much attention on this beautiful pairing, and has backed up a lot of development supporting them all this time. (Manga wise, not Anime which is filled to the brim with pointless fillers including the RTN movie) It's no surprise to me that Naruto will choose Hinata and finally see that she's been there for him all this time. His heart will finally understand what it means to finally find something that he wants to protect and always keep safe. Hinata will do her part and continue to support him and cheer him on. Her personality will balance his out, just like Minato was to Kushina. They will finally be together after everything they have suffered and fought for, then start to find their own happiness within each other. 
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I'm actually debating with NH fans. Lmao I'm done now. There's like a hoard of them. The paragraph above was one of the posts I've replied to. Isn't it comical. MINATO=HINATA. :hehehe

 

They are forgetting the fact that what lead Kushina to start loving Minato, who she thought was a loser, (sounds familiar) was the fact that he became strong (1) but also because he liked her greatest bodily insecurity (her red hair). Kishi wrote in Kushina halfway through this story. He drew a direct parallel between Sakura and Kushina purposefully (Sakura's insecurity being her forehead and Naruto, albeit disguised as Sasuke said it was cute). 

Also, Kushina said find someone like me, not someone weird. that directly implies she's referring to personality. Naruto's first thoughts on Hinata was she's weird. And she still is weird. If Kishi didn't mean to imply Sakura and draw another romantic parallel, then what is the point of the very obvious connection? And seeing as Kishi commanded RtN as well, which was an awesome NS fest and one long narusaku Minakushi parallel, it's clear where the dude's head is with these characters. Hinata is a common literary device, bring in a new girl to make the Main girl confused about feelings for the Main guy realize who she really loves. 


Edited by Hallox93, 02 November 2014 - 11:28 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:28 PM

Or it's what Konan said.
 
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Could be, I think they're in the same place though.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:28 PM

Just gonna copy and paste this here: Yes, which was interpreted the wrong way by many Naruto fans. Lots of fans believed she meant find someone who shares the same temper as her, which points at Sakura (Since really that is the only thing they have in common. Seriously that's it. Don't believe me, read the manga again. And Naruto is exactly like his mother personality wise, as stated by Kakashi, Tsunade, etc. in the manga. So to Narusaku fans it would literally be KushinaxKushina, in terms of going by their logic.) What Kushina really must have meant, must have been: Find someone like me who loves you, as I do. Her motherly advice was something that any mother in her place would have said. It was just motherly advice, that's all it was. She wasn't telling him go after Sakura or Hinata. She doesn't even know who they are. So finding someone like his mother is irrelevant to both NaruHina and Narusaku. Still looking back at Kushina's and Minato's past has a very eerie resemblance to how Naruto treated Hinata when they were children. Like Minato, Hinata stalked Naruto, watched him from afar when they were kids, and secretly cheered him on. Just like Minato, Hinata didn't regard her life, when she jumped in to save Naruto against Pain. Minato saved Kushina when she really needed saving as well. Both of them are quiet, and keep to themselves, Kushina and Naruto are loud and obnoxious. The parallels don't stop there: Kushina was changed by Minato and began liking her red hair, Naruto changed Hinata, and she  began liking herself more, and gained more confidence through his bright cheery personality and guidance. Why would Kishimoto, go through the trouble of matching these two couples and share some similarities between them if he never intended NaruHina from the start? Using a parallel to support one pairing against the other, isn't a good idea, because it really doesn't matter to what Naruto wants for himself. Eat your vegetables, and respect your teachers, Naruto does the complete opposite to what his parents wished him to do. Going by Narusaku logic: He would actually obey his mother go with the girl who shares one thing in common with her. Naruto has been in love with Sakura all of his life. He can't change his romantic feelings. (Erm, the manga says otherwise) (Sakura doesn't even support Narusaku)  That is completely ludicrous, in the end Naruto will choose whom he will be happy with, and it doesn't matter what his parents wished for in him. They will be happy with his choice no matter which girl he chooses. The Last Naruto movie points towards Hinata, the girl the author intended Naruto to be with throughout the manga, because he focused so much attention on this beautiful pairing, and has backed up a lot of development supporting them all this time. (Manga wise, not Anime which is filled to the brim with pointless fillers including the RTN movie) It's no surprise to me that Naruto will choose Hinata and finally see that she's been there for him all this time. His heart will finally understand what it means to finally find something that he wants to protect and always keep safe. Hinata will do her part and continue to support him and cheer him on. Her personality will balance his out, just like Minato was to Kushina. They will finally be together after everything they have suffered and fought for, then start to find their own happiness within each other. 
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I'm actually debating with NH fans. Lmao I'm done now. There's like a hoard of them. The paragraph above was one of the posts I've replied to. Isn't it comical. MINATO=HINATA. :hehehe

 so many biased statements its ridculous and proves they're only saying this from a pairing fan perspective and not from a writer's perspective.  

 

 which was interpreted the wrong way by many Naruto fans 

guess this means everyone has to be a freaking pairing fan by their logic and even the writers who say NS can happen must be pairing fans or naruto fans when they are infact neither :facepalm: 


Edited by ultranx, 02 November 2014 - 11:43 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:29 PM

 

They are forgetting the fact that what lead Kushina to start loving Minato, who she thought was a loser, (sounds familiar) was the fact that he became strong (1) but also because he liked her greatest bodily insecurity (her red hair). Kishi wrote in Kushina halfway through this story. He drew a direct parallel between Sakura and Kushina purposefully (Sakura's insecurity being her forehead and Naruto, albeit disguised as Sasuke said it was cute). 

Also, Kushina said find someone like me, not someone weird. that directly implies she's referring to personality. Naruto's first thoughts on Hinata was she's weird. And she still is weird. If Kishi didn't mean to imply Sakura and draw another romantic parallel, then what is the point of the very obvious connection? And seeing as Kishi commanded RtN as well, which was an awesome NS fest and one long narusaku Minakushi parallel, it's clear where the dude's head is with these characters. Hinata is a common literary device, bring in a new girl to make the Main girl confused about feelings for the Main guy realize who she really loves. 

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:30 PM

If the last note in the  manga says, "if you want to finish this story watch THE LAST: NARUTO THE MOVIE!" Then I'll care about this movie.


I'm pretty sure pairings will be resolved in the manga. And the movie is well.... A filler.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:33 PM

They are forgetting the fact that what lead Kushina to start loving Minato, who she thought was a loser, (sounds familiar) was the fact that he became strong (1) but also because he liked her greatest bodily insecurity (her red hair). Kishi wrote in Kushina halfway through this story. He drew a direct parallel between Sakura and Kushina purposefully (Sakura's insecurity being her forehead and Naruto, albeit disguised as Sasuke said it was cute). 
Also, Kushina said find someone like me, not someone weird. that directly implies she's referring to personality. Naruto's first thoughts on Hinata was she's weird. And she still is weird. If Kishi didn't mean to imply Sakura and draw another romantic parallel, then what is the point of the very obvious connection? And seeing as Kishi commanded RtN as well, which was an awesome NS fest and one long narusaku Minakushi parallel, it's clear where the dude's head is with these characters. Hinata is a common literary device, bring in a new girl to make the Main girl confused about feelings for the Main guy realize who she really loves.


he also wouldn't have made note of this when Minato made the comparison. We knew it was coming though. I love how they tried to twist Kushina's words too. Find a nice girl my ass. Lmao!

Then let's not even talk about Sakura's hair. She has the same part as Kushina now. I'm ready for Wednesday. It's pumping me up talking about it. Sooooo excitedddddd

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:35 PM

Marketing genius or biggest kitten. That is the question.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:36 PM

The more I read the synopsis of this movie, the more I don't see "NaruHina" in this. All the synopsis talks about is Hinata only and her feelings and her regrets for not coming up front with Naruto earlier. Why would she feel regret ifs NaruHina was already canon? If this does make NaruHina canon, wouldn't they say that this is how Naruto and Hinata got closer and not how Hinata is dealing with these regrets? This would be even more true if Naruto was with Sakura and she was still watching from a far. We also got Hinata's confession in the manga so we know Naruto already knows her feelings, but this acts like something has stopped Hinata from talking with him about it more.

I don't know. Based only on the information we got so far...nothing is fitting in right.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:36 PM

he also wouldn't have made note of this when Minato made the comparison. We knew it was coming though. I love how they tried to twist Kushina's words too. Find a nice girl my ass. Lmao!

Then let's not even talk about Sakura's hair. She has the same part as Kushina now. I'm ready for Wednesday. It's pumping me up talking about it. Sooooo excitedddddd

Does the chapters come out on wednesday? i thought it was thursday, I really hope its wednesday


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:37 PM

I'm pretty sure pairings will be resolved in the manga. And the movie is well.... A filler.

So much of this. If manga end correctly as Kishimoto told. Then its pure "Hinata moving forward moment" and pretty much fanservise for other character's fans.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:38 PM

Marketing genius or biggest bullsh**. That is the question.

 

About sums it up.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:39 PM

The more I read the synopsis of this movie, the more I don't see "NaruHina" in this. All the synopsis talks about is Hinata only and her feelings and he regrets for not coming up front with Naruto earlier. Why would she feel regret is NaruHina was already canon? If this does make NaruHina canon, wouldn't they say that this is how Naruto and Hinata got closer and not how Hinata is dealing with these regrets? This would be even more true if Naruto was with Sakura and she was still watching from a far. We also got Hinata's confession in the manga so we know Naruto already knows her feelings, but this acts like something has stopped Hinata from talking with him about it more.

I don't know. Based only on the information we got so far...nothing is fitting in right.

 

Also it would be weird if Kishi makes a pairing canon in a movie...



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:39 PM

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The raws come out on Wednesday.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:39 PM

So much of this. If manga end correctly as Kishimoto told. Then its pure "Hinata moving forward moment" and pretty much fanservise for other character's fans.

Bolded: couldnt of said it any better


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

Marketing genius or biggest bullsh**. That is the question.

Not really a genius, more like a smart manipulator.

 

Then let's not even talk about Sakura's hair. She has the same part as Kushina now. I'm ready for Wednesday. It's pumping me up talking about it. Sooooo excitedddddd

All aboard hype train?  :th_yeah:



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

Marketing genius or biggest bullsh**. That is the question.

 

Seeing how some Japanese tweeter accounts also call out the BSness of these marketing, I'm hoping it is genius...

Oh well, doesn't matter. What happens, happens.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

 

I think her Taijutsu will be a bit higher, after she unlocked the seal on her forehead her entire taijutsu became allot more deadly, it's a 4.5 atleast, maybe even a 5. Guy and Lee both got a 5 Taijutsu when the last databook came but while Lee is strong he's not at Guys level yet, specially not when the book came out, but the level cap is 5 so two people can be at th same level in the book even if one is much stronger.

 

I'm interested to see how Naruto, Sasuke and Madara will stack up, considering how OP they were I expect five accross the board for Naruto, except intelligence and Handseals.

 

It's more appropriate to say that the unknown percentage of Sakura's overall chakra that she was siphoning off to her seal was freed up for use in her CES. None of which influences her base stats except maybe for ninjutsu because of the Byakugou being classified as such. 

 

And on the contrary, I believe a 4 in taijutsu is perfectly acceptable for Sakura. She was never terribly great in hand to hand and she has no inherent talent for it. The main reason for her taijutsu increasing so much over the time skip is Tsunade's strict tutelage.

 

I'm basing my estimate off the parameters of the Databook. 

 

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and proficiency in taijutsu. 

 

I think what you're referring to is power, which is its own category. Taijutsu refers to things like dexterity, legwork, reflexes, and strict martial arts discipline. None of which is really Sakura's forte. Her fighting style is difficult to compare with Lee and Guy's because they don't rely strictly on slugger style boxing to fight like she does. 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

The raw comes out on Wednesday.

So does that mean we might get chapter Wednesday or just spoilers?


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