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#6301 Zatheko

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:24 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 12 2012, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It all depends on where you look. In some places you have people spamming the same kitten argument to hate Sakura. But in other places you'll see some really deep arguments that supports why they genuinely hate Sakura's character.


Yeah, I just wish that everyone would take the time to fully analyze a character instead of resorting to over used bashing tactics.

The way I see it, if someone is gonna support a pairing or a character over another, they should find out every detail about them first so you can have an actual debate and not just senselessly bash them ya know?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:37 AM

Because apparently, Sakura is useless (even though she actually does important stuff), meanwhile Hinata-sama affects the whole plot, because this manga is called Hinata and is only about her feelings.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:39 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 13 2012, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I just wish that everyone would take the time to fully analyze a character instead of resorting to over used bashing tactics.

The way I see it, if someone is gonna support a pairing or a character over another, they should find out every detail about them first so you can have an actual debate and not just senselessly bash them ya know?


Absolutely agree! If the hate wants to be taken seriously then they need to sit down and thoroughly invest their time into giving good reasons.

I care more about Sakura's character other than being used as some love interest. I want more from her, but I'm obviously not going to get that because of Kishi's negligence.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 13 2012, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Absolutely agree! If the hate wants to be taken seriously then they need to sit down and thoroughly invest their time into giving good reasons.

I care more about Sakura's character other than being used as some love interest. I want more from her, but I'm obviously not going to get that because of Kishi's negligence.


Kishi has done so much foreshadowing with Naruto and Sasuke, they got to be like the next 2 Sannins, yet, Sakura is still there on the back.
I like her for the human touch, that's what got me into her, but still... What about her development as a Kunoichi?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:39 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 13 2012, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Absolutely agree! If the hate wants to be taken seriously then they need to sit down and thoroughly invest their time into giving good reasons.

I care more about Sakura's character other than being used as some love interest. I want more from her, but I'm obviously not going to get that because of Kishi's negligence.


Kishi definitely neglected sakura's character. oh At the beginning of Part 1, she had so much potential that even hurts to think about it ;_; . But still .. she isn't an useless and horrible character as some people describe her, she's far from that IMO.

But maybe it's exactly this .. people expected too much of her and the fact that Kishi neglecting her so much ... ends up making people get frustrated with her character.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:23 AM

hun? negelate. sakura! ummm... i think he is cause he is upto finish the war and concertrating on narutos character, or something else.

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#6307 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 10:01 AM

@narulsaku nice double post smile.gif

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 13 2012, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you made an Idea in your head and you refuse to let it go, but it's obvious that you are not thinking about what you're saying.

1- Naruto redeem Sasuke, by a chance he returns to the villages just an assumption, Sakura becomes a fan girl and try to hook up with him, but he reject her. Do you honestly believe that Naruto deserves a Sakura running back to him because her fantasy Sasuke did not accept her feelings?

2- Naruto redeem Sasuke he becomes good again after talking with Sakura again he feels terrible sorry for the things he made her went through so he try to makes it up to her something she accept, but at the same time she make it clear that she does not want to pursue a relationship with him again, since their is someone else she loves.

All of this is assuming that Naruto still loves her until the end, but he places her happiness above his own something she is really grateful for, leading her to acknowledge that Naruto was always the man of her dream and her true happiness, the one and only person who really cares about her and her happiness.

Would this scenario be a lot better that haven Naruto be her 2nd choice because things didn't work out with her and Sasuke?
This will also show how much Sakura has mature.


1-> he didnt reject her because of pure rejection, i'm telling he could be honest for the first time and open her eyes, i dont think like sakura running back or otherwise obito/rin would be a trash because it happened the same you described first dont you agree?

2->To make the things right he does not have to offer himself to sakura is dumb, if he did horrible things the right thing to do is telling her that he does not deserve her and she deserves someome who's better than him, this is somthing that a "Humble" sasuke would do that's why this possibility is out of question.

3-> Ns is canon before sasuke's redemption

4-> Sakura recognize her feelings for Naruto before sasuke's redemption and her character already come to a closure about her feelings she's not paired with naruto yet but the sasuke's redemption does not have effect on her.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 10:13 AM

sorry sorry i didnt see that. and great thinking about ss. i do agree with ya

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Question for you guys:

Do you believe NS will be canon before or after Sasuke's redemption? Answer what you think it will be and what do you want it to be.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Dec 13 2012, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question for you guys:

Do you believe NS will be canon before or after Sasuke's redemption? Answer what you think it will be and what do you want it to be.


Before, because of the recent events.
Kishimoto speed up the process, hinata does not have anything to develop, neither naruto who seems confident about his feelings for sakura, and sakura who already is going to make a decision of what she really wants.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:52 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Dec 13 2012, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question for you guys:

Do you believe NS will be canon before or after Sasuke's redemption? Answer what you think it will be and what do you want it to be.

I by myself think that it will be canon after his redemption, because i feel like sakura will realize her feelings during the fight, naruto vs sasuke.
After this fight(if sasuke survives), naruto will believe that sakura will go back to sasuke, but she will stay by narutos side and gets together with him.
I think like that because i dont think we will get much to see from sakuras feelings during the war arc.

Just my opinion here.

Edit: Also i think the side characters like hinata need to be resolved first.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 05:28 PM

it may be after or before. what ever happens i ll be happy. but it would be interesting to see it after redeeming sasuke. then we can see true love feeling from sakuras heart. we ll get pure ns. but if this happens before redeemation. then kisi will need to find a way to make the pairing more powerfull. or it can be at the time of fight between naruto and sasuke. she would realise her feeling when naruto would do everypossible things to save sakura while sasuke would be doing everything he need to do to finish them up. i think it would be better if naruto and sakura will fight side by side against sasuke.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Dec 13 2012, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it may be after or before. what ever happens i ll be happy. but it would be interesting to see it after redeeming sasuke. then we can see true love feeling from sakuras heart. we ll get pure ns. but if this happens before redeemation. then kisi will need to find a way to make the pairing more powerfull. or it can be at the time of fight between naruto and sasuke. she would realise her feeling when naruto would do everypossible things to save sakura while sasuke would be doing everything he need to do to finish them up. i think it would be better if naruto and sakura will fight side by side against sasuke.


I was thinking at this... What if Kishi prepares something A la Hinata vs. Pain when Sasuke and Naruto will fight?
Something like "I won't let you touch Naruto one more time" bla bla? biggrin.gif

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:13 PM

She still loves Sasuke.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 13 2012, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She still loves Sasuke.

She has feelings for Naruto.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 13 2012, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She has feelings for Naruto.



She still loves Sasuke.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

And of course, we know that in the entire history of love, no girl has ever figured out that her affection has been focused on the wrong guy. Sakura is doomed. Utterly doomed to her one-sided love because it's impossible -- IMPOSSIBLE -- for her to move on. No girl has ever moved on from her first love, especially when that "love" was never returned and she also feels very strongly for a much better man.

That means Naruto is doomed as well.

It's a pity Kishimoto isn't smarter or he would realize this universal truth of hopelessness. /sarcasm




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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 13 2012, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She still loves Sasuke.


I don't get it why people still think she loves Sasuke if she thought at him. Really.
This could be fairly a sign to see that he's not who she wanted him to be and in fact that she's not in love with him, just a strong desire.

It is curious to me how when she first says that she's already in love with someone else she's so genuine and when the nin guys says 'the other' guy she thinks as Sasuke.

It can be fairly seen as she's in love with Naruto, but when the nin guy said about the "other one" she thought at Sasuke as the other guy she loved that doesn't deserve her feelings.

The only time we saw Sakura speaking genuinely about love, was when she spoke about her love for Naruto, not Sasuke's.

Dunno how exactly to explain this as English is not my first language, however, you get the point, hopefully.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

This argument is getting old. http://ultranx2010.d...rites/#/d5nal5x As this person on deviantart pointed out in their post all these different characters once loved another but ended up with someone else and there are a bunch of examples listed so it wouldn't be unheard of for Sakura to move on and get together with Naruto. She has been hinted to have feelings for him time and time again.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:31 PM

Sarcasm? Looks to me like authorial intent. Three murder attempts to finally make her take a look at how pathetic her love is for Sasuke. Its borderlng on masochism, if it already wasn't before.

Bad writing is indeed bad writing.

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