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#6281 Amy-chan

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:32 AM

QUOTE (Densetsu-Kun @ Oct 28 2011, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was being sarcastic tongue.gif

Ooops didnt know sorry about that. sweatdrop.gif


#6282 LegendaryArcanine42

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:42 AM

No problem, I often say random stuff but nobody ever knows whether I'm being sincere or not sad.gif

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE (Densetsu-Kun @ Oct 29 2011, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No problem, I often say random stuff but nobody ever knows whether I'm being sincere or not sad.gif


Well Duh. when you type people can't see your expressions or indicate your emotions or feelings online you have to specify them like (sarcasm) just saying it helps smile.gif

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:59 PM

How about you add a ninja.gif after every sarcastic statement so we know?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE (Densetsu-Kun @ Oct 28 2011, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No problem, I often say random stuff but nobody ever knows whether I'm being sincere or not sad.gif


Think a bit more before you write then. Irritating people just for a lark isn't a good thing to do online.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:02 PM

^^ Yep, it would get the blood boiling and the tempers flaring, so let's just put an end to it now. So what do you guys want to talk about?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Oct 29 2011, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ Yep, it would get the blood boiling and the tempers flaring, so let's just put an end to it now. So what do you guys want to talk about?

Why hasen't Sasuke married Hinana yet?

Why hasen't Naruto told Sakura to "believe it" yet for this war? happy.gif

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:21 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 29 2011, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why hasen't Sasuke married Hinana yet?

Why hasen't Naruto told Sakura to "believe it" yet for this war? happy.gif


You mean dattebayo in Japanese because in English they change it to believe it the same with Sakura's shannaro with cha.

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#6289 LegendaryArcanine42

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 29 2011, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why hasen't Sasuke married Hinana yet?

Why hasen't Naruto told Sakura to "believe it" yet for this war? happy.gif


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#6290 Anguyen92

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:14 PM

^^ They are both pretty bad, and pretty repetitive which adds to them being bad. Well, I got nothing else to say, so does anyone have any questions or concerns about anything here?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 10:56 PM

...

Why the hell is everyone talking about catchphrases and stuff? :|

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE (ChidoriLuv @ Oct 29 2011, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Why the hell is everyone talking about catchphrases and stuff? :|


It's known as being off-topic... ninja.gif

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:09 PM

QUOTE (Densetsu-Kun @ Oct 30 2011, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's known as being off-topic... ninja.gif

EXACTLY MY POINT. (Yes I know you're being sarcastic but I'm not.)

So can we get back on topic please? I don't wanna be told off again by the admins.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:11 PM

^^ Ok, what do you want to talk about then? I'm game for whatever topic that anyone is willing to mention.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Oct 30 2011, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ Ok, what do you want to talk about then? I'm game for whatever topic that anyone is willing to mention.

Well, that's the problem. There's nothing to talk about. There hasn't been any recent NS development or scenes in the manga (apart from the one where Naruto saved Sakura and Shizune, so that doesn't count as a romantic NS moment) so... oh wait I found this comment on YT:

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I think sakura fits better with sasuke....I mean sakura is so kind (sometimes) and sasuke is so cruel (al the rime) they are like yin yang......so that's why they fits togther....instead sakura and naruto...both are yang....good kind...so that's why they don't fit together(:

Yeah, I know I shouldn't be around there since that place is full of haters, but anyways... anyone wanna tackle it? If not, I'll go first.

First off, this person needs to work on their grammar.

So basically this person's saying that opposites attract (here we go again), about Sakura and Sasuke fitting together as Yin and Yang since Sakura is kind, whereas Sasuke is cold, and that NS doesn't fit because Naruto is kind too. That's, well, wrong. We've pretty much gone over this 50 million times. It's not the personalities of a couple compliment each other, it's the chemistry and relationship the couple has. It's safe to say that NS can go for the run in winning that prize, while SS pretty much is beaten by a landslide in that category. No bashing intended, just stating the obvious.

Also, in a sense, NS is kind of like Yin and Yang in personalities too. Naruto is a loud, hyperactive, perverted kid, and needs someone to keep him in line, and that person is Sakura, a smart, mature, sensible kind of girl. I don't think anyone else would be capable of keeping Naruto in line. A lot of NH fans say that Hinata can since she's quiet and calm. I beg to differ. Hinata, in a sense, is pretty much a passive girl, and all she does is follow and agree with what Naruto does, really. She doesn't even have as much faith in him as Sakura does, despite that fact that she's all "I believe in you, Naruto-kun!" Yeah, I know I sound hypocritical by saying that opposites don't count alone in making a relationship, but I just felt like bringing this up. Plus, Sakura being the opposite of Naruto is for his benefit anyway, right?

So yeah, that's all I gotta say. Feel free to rip this up into pieces. Or if you want, have a go at tackling the comment. a_thumbs.gif

Edited by ChidoriLuv, 29 October 2011 - 11:36 PM.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:02 AM

^^ Well, I can't really break this down into pieces, so I guess I can sum all of this in a couple of words. Some people have their definition of opposite attracts and we've got our definition and to verify which one works would be a judgment call at best. IMO, People can't really use the opposite attracts (and nothing more) = canon relationship. That stuff seems to work in like one of those really corny teen dramas and stuff like that and last I recall, Naruto (the series) is not that kind of genre. As always, what defines a relationship is simply, are they willing to be comfortable, interact and be themselves with each other?

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I think sakura fits better with sasuke....I mean sakura is so kind (sometimes) and sasuke is so cruel (al the rime) they are like yin yang......so that's why they fits togther....instead sakura and naruto...both are yang....good kind...so that's why they don't fit together(:


I'm sorry, but to the person that wrote this. Would a relationship, where one person is so cruel and is a jerk, actually work like that? Unless the other person likes that, which in most parts of Part 1, Sakura didn't like Sasuke being a jerk and having her question her abilities, whereas Naruto (Throughout the series) always does his best to get her back into high hopes, spirits, and confidence and all he asks is from her, in exchange of that (indirectly), is to be happy and to be his good friend and (subconsciously), maybe be the one he wants to spend the rest of his life with.

Edited by Anguyen92, 30 October 2011 - 12:03 AM.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but to the person that wrote this. Would a relationship, where one person is so cruel and is a jerk, actually work like that? Unless the other person likes that, which in most parts of Part 1, Sakura didn't like Sasuke being a jerk and having her question her abilities, whereas Naruto (Throughout the series) always does his best to get her back into high hopes, spirits, and confidence and all he asks is from her, in exchange of that (indirectly), is to be happy and to be his good friend and (subconsciously), maybe be the one he wants to spend the rest of his life with.


Well actually, Sakura always seemed a bit masochistic to me tongue.gif

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 01:28 AM

Naruto & Sakura are meant to be together because they have the same strong feelings towards each other, and even if they don't realize it yet, they will one day say,
I Love You
Sakura will chooses Naruto
I can not imagine the main character not been hable to win his dream girl heart
and end up with a consolation prize, someone who he never love or give is all for Naruto loke how he did for Sakura.
Naruto being the one to sacrifice himself the most and the one with the most pain to end up losing is dream love. After all the sacrifice he make to see Sakura smile and see her happy.

Honestly I just cannot imagine that.

Naruto deserves a happy ending with the person he always wish to be loved by, not a consolation prize and Sakura deserves someone that was always there for her and always love her. biggrin.gif

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 03:07 AM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Oct 30 2011, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto & Sakura are meant to be together because they have the same strong feelings towards each other, and even if they don't realize it yet, they will one day say,
I Love You
Sakura will chooses Naruto
I can not imagine the main character not been hable to win his dream girl heart
and end up with a consolation prize, someone who he never love or give is all for Naruto loke how he did for Sakura.
Naruto being the one to sacrifice himself the most and the one with the most pain to end up losing is dream love. After all the sacrifice he make to see Sakura smile and see her happy.

Honestly I just cannot imagine that.

Naruto deserves a happy ending with the person he always wish to be loved by, not a consolation prize and Sakura deserves someone that was always there for her and always love her. biggrin.gif


Can't agree more but I have to keep open to other couples so as to not seem like a hypocrite

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 03:33 AM

I'll take a stab....

A while back there was discussion of Sakura's confession, and several people weighed in to varying degrees of believing her. From believing fully in her confession to believing she loves Naruto but is only halfway there to thinking Sakura was lying in the confession but will probably end up NS anyway. So feel free to find your place in that spectrum.

However, I think there was an important moment in that confession that is often overlooked. And, for me, it's what makes the difference between halfway feelings and a full, if botched, confession of her love.

The last three lines were extremely sensitive, personal and heartfelt.

"You're right here and I can touch you like this. You make me feel safe. Right now, from the bottom of my heart, I—"

If she's lying, why say something from the bottom of her heart? Why pull from the depths of her feelings? Why say "I can touch you"? I think in the beginning she was trying to persuade him. But when he asks her what happened, what changed, she has a moment of deep introspection, face tipped down. Then it launches into Naruto's misguided recollection of her. He missed the change in her tone. Cause the next thing she does is step into an embrace!

But the last line, "Right now, from the bottom of my heart, I—", is the thing that makes the difference for me. If that line wasn't there, then the whole confession would really keep the tone of a manipulation. But the ending makes it clear that there was much more to come, and really from her own heart, not the feelings that are tied to concerns over Sasuke.

Anyone else feel that way? That the last line makes the difference? We can only wait and see how it is resolved....

(And don't forget: There's also the little problem of the "and...." when she's talking to the rest of the rookies and getting them to promise not to say anything to Naruto. So there is definitely something else waiting in the wings where Naruto and Sakura are concerned.)

edit: it's also kind of sad too, because he cuts off her confession to tell her "that joke isn't funny." He can't even accept her love. Whether he believes her or not isn't even on the table. He just doesn't accept that she loves him. And then he says "I hate people who lie to themselves." But isn't he the one lying to himself, not Sakura? Anyway, bittersweet.

Edited by tricksie, 30 October 2011 - 03:38 AM.





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