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#6281 luffyq1

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:53 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 13 2012, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That argument is my favorite. Somehow, there's still the mentality that Sakura is an absolute b*tch to Naruto, when in reality, she's probably the one who's tried to do the most for him, canon-wise (besides Iruka, of course.)


I definitely agree with the bolded. Honestly, I don't particular favor another fandom over the other. I may like NS, but that doesn't mean I want the added special offer of automatically loving the fandom. I understand if anyone is a part of the anti B3 pairings. I mean the pairing wars are truly an embarrassment. And yes, I am man enough to admit that I have participated in some. It was fun, but sad at the same time. People invest so much emotional time in their pair that they become stubborn.

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#6282 swagosaurus

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:58 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 12 2012, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agree with the bolded. Honestly, I don't particular favor another fandom over the other. I may like NS, but that doesn't mean I want the added special offer of automatically loving the fandom. I understand if anyone is a part of the anti B3 pairings. I mean the pairing wars are truly an embarrassment. And yes, I am man enough to admit that I have participated in some. It was fun, but sad at the same time. People invest so much emotional time in their pair that they become stubborn.


Exactly. I kittening love this pairing, but the fandom....eh. From what I've experienced, we have some of the most mature and intellectual shippers, but that's just from the FC's only. I don't really like getting into pairing debates, because quite honestly, there's no point; you're clearly not going to change the other's views. Maybe prove them wrong in some areas, but that's it, and tbh, that's kind of selfish, if that's even the right word.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:01 AM

To me the NH fans that actually put up good arguments for their pairing are ok, but I see this very little, the majority I see go from defending NH to just straight up bashing sakura, thats when it starts to irk me, when someone tries to bash on a character just to get there point across.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:04 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 13 2012, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To me the NH fans that actually put up good arguments for their pairing are ok, but I see this very little, the majority I see go from defending NH to just straight up bashing sakura, thats when it starts to irk me, when someone tries to bash on a character just to get there point across.


Exactly.
I've never seen a single mature argument from NH fans, unfortunately.
Only bashing bashing bashing...
Sad, to be honest. sad.gif

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Dec 12 2012, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly.
I've never seen a single mature argument from NH fans, unfortunately.
Only bashing bashing bashing...
Sad, to be honest. sad.gif


Yeah... and for some reason a lot of them tend to think that just because sakura hits him (which in part 2 I really don't see a lot) that means she hates him, they literally only think that and don't understand a thing about her character.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:19 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 13 2012, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah... and for some reason a lot of them tend to think that just because sakura hits him (which in part 2 I really don't see a lot) that means she hates him, they literally only think that and don't understand a thing about her character.

For most NH fans, naruto finished when shippuden started.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:19 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 13 2012, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah... and for some reason a lot of them tend to think that just because sakura hits him (which in part 2 I really don't see a lot) that means she hates him, they literally only think that and don't understand a thing about her character.


They just need something to hate her for. I call it really pathetic, to be honest.
That's why I've started my own Haruno Sakura's analysis.
But it's going to take me a lifetime until I finish dry.gif

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:21 AM

@Chatte esti roman?

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:21 AM

Where do pairing wars even happen? I hear a lot about them, but I never really see it anywhere. I guess that's because I'm not really that deep into the fandom. *I think I'll keep it that way*

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE (Nostradamus @ Dec 13 2012, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Chatte esti roman?


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QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 13 2012, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where do pairing wars even happen? I hear a lot about them, but I never really see it anywhere. I guess that's because I'm not really that deep into the fandom. *I think I'll keep it that way*


Trust me, it's million times better. Tumblr, YouTube, DeviantArt, Facebook all sorts of these stuff.
Not to mention forums...

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 12 2012, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For most NH fans, naruto finished when shippuden started.


Haha yeah I think that pretty much sums it up.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 12 2012, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I definitely agree with the bolded. Honestly, I don't particular favor another fandom over the other. I may like NS, but that doesn't mean I want the added special offer of automatically loving the fandom. I understand if anyone is a part of the anti B3 pairings. I mean the pairing wars are truly an embarrassment. And yes, I am man enough to admit that I have participated in some. It was fun, but sad at the same time. People invest so much emotional time in their pair that they become stubborn.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 13 2012, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. I kittening love this pairing, but the fandom....eh. From what I've experienced, we have some of the most mature and intellectual shippers, but that's just from the FC's only. I don't really like getting into pairing debates, because quite honestly, there's no point; you're clearly not going to change the other's views. Maybe prove them wrong in some areas, but that's it, and tbh, that's kind of selfish, if that's even the right word.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:46 AM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 13 2012, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where do pairing wars even happen? I hear a lot about them, but I never really see it anywhere. I guess that's because I'm not really that deep into the fandom. *I think I'll keep it that way*

go to youtube, type in something like Narusaku amv or something, then scroll down to the comments. Begin your adventure by clicking show comment.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Dec 13 2012, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They just need something to hate her for. I call it really pathetic, to be honest.
That's why I've started my own Haruno Sakura's analysis.
But it's going to take me a lifetime until I finish dry.gif


There are much better reasons to hate Sakura than the one you guys stated.

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 13 2012, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome back Luffy. smile.gif


LOL

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:55 AM

The people who bash Sakura, yet complete gush over Hinata, completely blow my mind. Especially when it concerns Naruto.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:08 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 13 2012, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The people who bash Sakura, yet complete gush over Hinata, completely blow my mind. Especially when it concerns Naruto.


Tell me about it! I love one argument where they say that Hinata loved Naruto first, therefore she deserves to be with him.

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But what about Naruto's feelings? What about Sakura's feelings? Do they not matter when it comes to Hinata-sama?

Here's another one: If Sakura chooses Naruto over Sasuke she'll just be settling for Naruto because she can't be with Sasuke. But wouldn't that also apply to Naruto if he ends up with Hinata-sama?

It's just an endless cycle of using arguments against them, and them using arguments against us. Nobody wins. That's the pairing war in a nutshell.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:08 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 12 2012, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are much better reasons to hate Sakura than the one you guys stated.


True, BUT 90% of the people only use those reasons when in arguments.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:14 AM

For me the worse argument I ever read is: Sakura is useless but Hinata is useful!! I may have skipped some chapters because I never see her doing nothing useful, It isn't even her fault, It's just because she doesn't have too much spotlight in the serie and when she has .. it's all about her feelings and nothing more.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:20 AM

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 13 2012, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True, BUT 90% of the people only use those reasons when in arguments.


It all depends on where you look. In some places you have people spamming the same kitten argument to hate Sakura. But in other places you'll see some really deep arguments that supports why they genuinely hate Sakura's character. Though I don't agree with them, I understand their reasoning. That's part of being a fan of Sakura is being able to accept her flaws.

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