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[Chatte]

neoshadow- did you asked that symbol question before. i cant remember well but i ve seen a whole thread 1 or 2 months ago about this. someone put a pic where sakura , naruto and sasukes symbols were there and that person just asked the same question . about the similarity of haruno and uzumaki symbols.

They're quite similar to me, to be honest....

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If you move a bit the placement and take those rounds that fill the O's, it pretty much looks like Sakura's outfit... :|

[narulsaku]

yes i can see that i am not saying that they are different . they look prety same. but i was saying that i ve seen a thread for this. but it was boaring. and we discussed about where sakura was looking. haha

[PhenixElite]

Yep that's it and it makes Sakura look as if she doesn't have any self respect or dignity and I do agree the murder attempts will most likely be forgotten as if nothing happened, Sakura isn't disappointed because Sasuke tried to kill her she is disappointed how he became like that, it's just unbelievable this whole Sasuke thing is really stupid and has gone too far, yeah murder attempts are nothing important after all
I can understand luffy's frustation it is simply put ridiculous, how can any normal human being forget murder attempts like that ? how are we supposed to relate to that ? Meh
Kishi's idea of basic human relationship and reaction is really messed up.

Swag : that's not what I was referring to.

Just one question. Who told you guys that she will just forget these attempts. Till now she was just thinking one time about him after tge artenpts and it was negativ.

[narulsaku]

weltall i agree with you. i dont even believe that sakura didnt forget sasuke. but that makes the story more interesting. about sakura , it shows how she loves sasuke if kisi wouldnt have shown that sakura has forgotten sasuke and begun to like naruto then how can she be an obstacle naruto has to come through.that would be so simple for naruto to get sakura hey is sakura with naruto in this recent chapter 612?

Edited by narulsaku, 12 December 2012 - 07:12 AM.

[Atheck]

One of the original reasons for Naruto liking Sakura was recognition. He saw that like him she sought the approval of someone else as well. That person being Sasuke. Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, as some have theorized in the past, pertain to that desire for recognition. I believe that if Sasuke finally acknowledges her as a competent individual kunoichi and woman that her feelings will be resolved.

Well, that's one possibility that I'm hoping for at least.

[luffyq1]

Sakura always wanted to be in a romantic relationship with Sasuke. But she can't right now because he's, well... a nutjob. One of the strongest arguments the SS fandom have is that Sasuke's redemption = SS. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's not possible. After all, in the Pain invasion everyone was brought back to life with asspull no-jutsu, and the biggest troll is that Pain got beat by a book. We are giving Kishi too much credit into thinking that logic will dictate the final pairing. The SS fandom believes that once Naruto beats some sense into Sasuke, he will finally accept that caring side of Sakura that he rejected during his curse mark period, and that's where the relationship will start from there. I understand that Naruto is the main character, but we can't just look at this from Naruto's heart. Other people have desires as well, and Naruto ain't expecting Sakura to love him back, he's an amazingly selfless guy, remember? Just thought I'd address that before someone goes rambling off with that main character argument.

Anything is possible in the Narutoverse LOL.

Edited by luffyq1, 12 December 2012 - 10:54 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sakura always wanted to be in a romantic relationship with Sasuke. But she can't right now because he's, well... a nutjob. One of the strongest arguments the SS fandom have is that Sasuke's redemption = SS. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's not possible. After all, in the Pain invasion everyone was brought back to life with asspull no-jutsu, and the biggest troll is that Pain got beat by a book. We are giving Kishi too much credit into thinking that logic will detect the final pairing. The SS fandom believes that once Naruto beats some sense into Sasuke, he will finally accept that caring side of Sakura that he rejected during his curse mark period, and that's where the relationship will start from there. I understand that Naruto is the main character, but we can't just look at this from Naruto's heart. Other people have desires as well, and Naruto ain't expecting Sakura to love him back, he's an amazingly selfless guy, remember? Just thought I'd address that before someone goes rambling off with that main character argument.

Anything is possible in the Narutoverse LOL.

You talk about sasuke redemption is certain?
that he will come back to the village.
Sasuke wont come back to the village, for obvious reasons, Sai is already a member of team 7 and there's no space for other member, sasuke already have his team the team taka, and moreover what about Karin she loves sasuke as well, u talk like Sasuke's redemption is sasuke coming back to the village and for the team 7, while kishi already destroyed the team 7 with sai the new character.

I might ask you did you re-read the manga?

"One of the strongest arguments the SS fandom have is that Sasuke's redemption = SS."
It's a joke is it?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 December 2012 - 10:47 AM.

[luffyq1]

You talk about sasuke redemption is certain?
that he will come back to the village.
Sasuke wont come back to the village, for obvious reasons, Sai is already a member of team 7 and there's no space for other member, sasuke already have his team the team taka, and moreover what about Karin she loves sasuke as well, u talk like Sasuke's redemption is sasuke coming back to the village and for the team 7, while kishi already destroyed the team 7 with sai the new character.

I might ask you did you re-read the manga?

Naruto has gained a huge amount of power over the villagers after the pain arc. I'm sure you already know where I'm heading with this. And Karin? Didn't she say she's through with him?

Did I re-read the manga? Yes, in fact I did.

Edited by luffyq1, 12 December 2012 - 10:54 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Naruto has has gained a huge amount of power over the villagers after the pain arc. I'm sure you already know where I'm heading with this. And Karin? Didn't she say she's through with him?

Did I re-read the manga? Yes, in fact I did.

Naruto will become Kage there's no team anymore, sasuke got his own team and will stick to it, tell me one chapter that suigetsu, juugo and karin are not around sasuke,even saying she's through with him she is going after sasuke, those three guys are more friends to sasuke than sakura, sai.
Your contradiction, naruto is a selfless hero, he's not going to say to the villagers "hey forgive sasuke because i'm kage and have power" you must be trolling.
You argument is ridiculous and i feel bad because it's so easy to counter it, and moreover the recent lines of naruto talking about sasuke, naruto says "i'll save sasuke" not saying "i'll bring sasuke back"

Moreover itachi teach sasuke to rely more on his friends and bet who are his friends "suigetsu,juugo and karin".
And another things sasuke will apologize karin for that hit and he will be more nice with her, after her talk with sasuke you tell me if SS has chances of happening.
For some reason i think you are trolling for real.

I suggest you to re-read the manga again.

The SS fandom believes that once Naruto beats some sense into Sasuke, he will finally accept that caring side of Sakura that he rejected during his curse mark period, and that's where the relationship will start from there.

Why he would accept her caring side and retribute her feelings? After all that he's done.
If he's fully redeemed he might say that he does not deserve her love like kakashi did.
You're just doing speculation of something that cant even happen.
Sasuke as always been to snobbish of himself always thinking highly of himself, a sasuke redeemed might be more humble.
And will tell her that he does not deserve her love and naruto loves her and deserve it since he protected her.
Rejecting her again saying the truth is the right thing to do than accepting her caring side because he feels sorry for her, it's the worst pairing possible and not even romantic, inside his heart he does not love sakura and will not love her, he never showed any romantic feelings towards her and anyone.


I just can not believe I fell for this troll.
Congrats for you.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 December 2012 - 11:15 AM.

[luffyq1]

Naruto will become Kage there's no team anymore, sasuke got his own team and will stick to it, tell me one chapter that suigetsu, juugo and karin are not around sasuke,even saying she's through with him she is going after sasuke, those three guys are more friends to sasuke than sakura, sai.
Your contradiction, naruto is a selfless hero, he's not going to say to the villagers "hey forgive sasuke because i'm kage and have power" you must be trolling.
You argument is ridiculous and i feel bad because it's so easy to counter it, and moreover the recent lines of naruto talking about sasuke, naruto says "i'll save sasuke" not saying "i'll bring sasuke back"

For some reason i think you are trolling for real.

I suggest you to re-read the manga again.

Man, you're really sticking by that team idea, huh? Well Sasuke did leave them behind plenty of times. Suigetsu & Juugo were left during the kage summit, and then Karin got left behind after he pulled that stunt on her. Lol, they can be friendly all they want, Sasuke still doesn't consider them his friends. They're more like tools to him.

Naruto's not going to say to the villagers to forgive Sasuke because he's a kage and have power? Lol, remember that pathetic plea to the Raikage? It's possible bro, it's possible.

Am i trolling? No. But is Kishi trolling? We've seen some pretty retarded things in the world of Naruto that is lacking common sense, especially on Naruto's end.

Re-read the manga again? Been there, done that.

Edited by luffyq1, 12 December 2012 - 11:13 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Man, you're really sticking by that team idea, huh? Well Sasuke did leave them behind plenty of times. Suigetsu & Juugo were left during the kage summit, and then Karin got left behind after he pulled that stunt on her. Lol, they can be friendly all they want, Sasuke still doesn't consider them his friends. They're more like tools to him.

Naruto's not going to say to the villagers to forgive Sasuke because he's a kage and have power? Lol, remember that pathetic plea to the Raikage? It's possible bro, it's possible.

Is ths serious?
Did you hear what itachi told to sasuke to think about his comrades and friends he would not leave them behind again, and after it they arrived again, and moreover that raikage stuff was to make naruto grown he was sticking to another idea, even kakashi went just to give a chance to naruto because naruto was innocent, raikage teach him a lesson about the world.

Am i trolling? No. But is Kishi trolling? We've seen some pretty retarded things in the world of Naruto that is lacking common sense, especially on Naruto's end.

No you're trolling because since yesterday i'm waiting for you to point out where i'm wrong and why.
You just came here saying that everyone is wrong just because you re-read the manga, without showning any proof and with arguments that can be easily countered, when we counter you just make a another argument without any proof and then we counter it, you show another and another....
In a infinite loop like izanami.

Re-read the manga again? Been there, done that.

I just read the manga 1 time, and started since orochimaru's part on part2 i just cant believe that i know more things than a guy that re-read this stuff 3-4 times.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM.

[PhenixElite]

Let me share my simple and logic view on the whole love story with you guys.

Naruto the main character has a crush on sakura, but sakura instead has a crush on sasuke.
As the story goes on narutos crush developes in love. Same here for sakura so narutrealizes that his chances to be with sakura are getting smaller(hospital scene).

After sasuke leaves naruto wants to bring him back. Before he leaves sakura stops him and wants naruto to bring sasuke back, because sasule is all sakura wants in her life. Now naruto realizes that there are nearly no ways left for him to get with sakura, so he wants to use his love to make sakura happy with bringing back sasuke. He makes the promise to her knowing that if he cant keep it sakura wont be happy and he will never have chance to get with her and if he keeps it and brings sasuke back there also wont be a chance to be with her since she would start running after sasuke again.
As he fails he tells her that he will keep that promise no matter what.

As the story continues, sakura starts to develope feelings for naruto, but naruto is not aware of that, same for sakura.
Later sakura gets told that naruto loves her and did all that for her happyness. Her view on sasuke slowly starts to get negative since he joined akatsuki and tries to kill her.

In the end naruto manages to redeem sasuke and now believes, that theres no hope left for him and sakura since sakura will start to fangirl him again(or if he becomes a wanderer, that she will go with him). But then to narutos shock, sakura decides to stay by his side because she realizes her true feelings and that it was naruto who made her happy, has been there for her all the time and managed to make her wishes come true. End!

So for me its seems like a nice simple and dramtic love story.

[luffyq1]

Is ths serious?
Did you hear what itachi told to sasuke to think about his comrades and friends he would not leave them behind again, and after it they arrived again, and moreover that raikage stuff was to make naruto grown he was sticking to another idea, even kakashi went just to give a chance to naruto because naruto was innocent, raikage teach him a lesson about the world.



No you're trolling because since yesterday i'm waiting for you to point out where i'm wrong and why.


I just read the manga 1 time, and started since orochimaru's part on part2 i just cant believe that i know more things than a guy that re-read this stuff 3-4 times.

He said that to Sasuke? Well in any case, that would apply to his old team as well. We did have an instance of Sasuke thinking about team 7 during part 2 of the series.

He found his resolve because the Raikage & Gaara helped him too. But even Kakashi told him that he doesn't need to risk his life to save Sasuke, he has the title of Hokage to think about. Naruto still says in that chapter that he can't become Hokage if he can't even said one friend.

Do not overstep your boundaries when applying real world logic to Narutoverse logic. That will most likely not be the case when it comes to whatever final pairing that Kishi wants. Need I remind you that Obito almost blew up baby Naruto because of 1 girl.

Some of your arguments are deeply rooted with real world logic. There's no need to tell you how wrong that is.

Let's level with the common sense in the world of Naruto, k?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He said that to Sasuke? Well in any case, that would apply to his old team as well. We did have an instance of Sasuke thinking about team 7 during part 2 of the series.

He found his resolve because the Raikage & Gaara helped him too. But even Kakashi told him that he doesn't need to risk his life to save Sasuke, he has the title of Hokage to think about. Naruto still says in that chapter that he can't become Hokage if he can't even said one friend.

Do not overstep your boundaries when applying real world logic to Narutoverse logic. That will most likely not be the case when it comes to whatever final pairing that Kishi wants. Need I remind you that Obito almost blew up baby Naruto because of 1 girl.

Some of your arguments are deeply rooted with real world logic. There's no need to tell you how wrong that is.

Let's level with the common sense in the world of Naruto, k?

Nope, go read 592 since you re-read the manga, when he says "what is a shinobi" naruto, sai, kakashi everyone on village shows up on his mind.
Naruto first.

His team is taka, and their comrades as well.
my arguments rooted with the world logic?
I used examples of the very same mange you said you re-read.

DIdnt kakashi told rin that he didnt deserve her love why sasuke cant do the same?
Didint obito had a selfless love like naruto?he's acting this way because he lost her, what would happen if kakashi ends up with rin?
Did not Karin still loves sasuke even he tried to kill her?

seriously that you started now with fallacies did you have any more arguments?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 December 2012 - 11:51 AM.

[Chucky-kun]

He said that to Sasuke? Well in any case, that would apply to his old team as well. We did have an instance of Sasuke thinking about team 7 during part 2 of the series.

He found his resolve because the Raikage & Gaara helped him too. But even Kakashi told him that he doesn't need to risk his life to save Sasuke, he has the title of Hokage to think about. Naruto still says in that chapter that he can't become Hokage if he can't even said one friend.

Do not overstep your boundaries when applying real world logic to Narutoverse logic. That will most likely not be the case when it comes to whatever final pairing that Kishi wants. Need I remind you that Obito almost blew up baby Naruto because of 1 girl.

Some of your arguments are deeply rooted with real world logic. There's no need to tell you how wrong that is.

Let's level with the common sense in the world of Naruto, k?

If there was no real life common sense, do you think naruto would still have so many readers?

[luffyq1]

Nope, go read 592 since you re-read the manga, when he says "what is a shinobi" naruto, sai, kakashi everyone on village shows up on his mind.
Naruto first.

His team is taka, and their comrades as well.
my arguments rooted with the world logic?
I used examples of the very same mange you said you re-read.

DIdnt kakashi told rin that he didnt deserve her love why sasuke cant do the same?
Didint obito had a selfless love like naruto?he's acting this way because he lost her, what would happen if kakashi ends up with rin?
Did not Karin still loves sasuke even he tried to kill her?

seriously that you started now with fallacies did you have any more arguments?

In 592 he's at least seeing team 7 in that panel, but not team taka. Like I said before, Karin, Suigetsu, and Juugo are just tools to Sasuke more than teammates. The level of care he's shown to them pales in comparison to the care he's shown to team 7.

Look, what you're doing with previous team 7 and new team 7 can just as easily be turned around in Sasuke's defense, not just for Naruto's and Sakura's. Karin still loves Sasuke? Last I checked, she's through with him.

If there was no real life common sense, do you think naruto would still have so many readers?

Madara, Obito, Naruto vs Sasuke part 2, the war, more epic battles to come, wanting to see what happens in the end, questions that still need answers, these are just many of the reasons myself and many others are still sticking by with this manga, not because it's lacking real world common sense.

Edited by luffyq1, 12 December 2012 - 12:11 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

In 592 he's at least seeing team 7 in that panel, but not team taka. Like I said before, Karin, Suigetsu, and Juugo are just tools to Sasuke more than teammates. The level of care he's shown to them pales in comparison to the care he's shown to team 7.

he was talking what's a shinobi, and appears ino, shikamaru, chouji,kiba and lots of random ninjas on the background, i told you it's not about friends.
Your argument is invalid.

She's thorugh with him then why she's going back to sasuke, and karin is a tsundere she always reject her feelings

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 December 2012 - 12:17 PM.

[luffyq1]

he was talking what's a shinobi, and appears ino, shikamaru, chouji,kiba and lots of random ninjas on the background, i told you it's not about friends.
Your argument is invalid.

I said he's at least seeing team 7 in that panel. It's like you're not even reading my post. My patience can only endure so much with you. If you're simply going to give me the impression that you're just skimming through my post, then there is no need for further discussion.

Good day.

Edited by luffyq1, 12 December 2012 - 12:21 PM.

[narulsaku]

hey hey guys keep it cool.dont need to be angry on that luffy

[Chucky-kun]

In 592 he's at least seeing team 7 in that panel, but not team taka. Like I said before, Karin, Suigetsu, and Juugo are just tools to Sasuke more than teammates. The level of care he's shown to them pales in comparison to the care he's shown to team 7.

Look, what you're doing with previous team 7 and new team 7 can just as easily be turned around in Sasuke's defense, not just for Naruto's and Sakura's. Karin still loves Sasuke? Last I checked, she's through with him.



Madara, Obito, Naruto vs Sasuke part 2, the war, more epic battles to come, wanting to see what happens in the end, questions that still need answers, these are just many of the reasons myself and many others are still sticking by with this manga, not because it's lacking real world common sense.

Please list examples where naruto doesn't have real world common sense, not just your interpretations or hypothesis.