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[harry4e]

chapter 630

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Didn't like the chapter to much. Looks like they're just introducing the opponents of the rest of the crew and giving that Hodi some kind of powerup/mutation.

Only thing I liked is how they said Zoro did quite a number on Hodi

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Yeah this might be one of the few times where prefered the other manga releases over OP.

Just some random cannon fodder being introduced, and then Hody going crazy....which is making me think (or maybe it's more hope) he really isn't the main boss, he lacks any real personality to make him a memorable main boss...which is a shame because the storyline for this arc is very good, but the forgettable antagonists ruin it somewhat.

I would love to know who is supplying these wonder drugs.

[KungFuTruffle]

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Oh, good. I thought I was going to be the only person bored with this week's chapter. At least I'm not alone.

From that last shot of his arm, Hordy looks like he's becoming more human, which would completely screw up his plans.

Hm, now that harry's brought it to my attention, I'm thinking that the real main villain will be whoever is supplying the Fishmen with their drugs. Drug dealers are usually pretty awful people, after all.

[Phantom_999]

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I don't find find One Piece engaging not saying its not good it is great in fact but I've never got into it and I gave it a legitimate chance read well over 200 chapters straight I'm just TIRED of all of this "One Piece is better than Naruto!" ITS NOT! Its more popular yes and more read but it's not better in fact online I always see Naruto being read more than One Piece They both have special Qualities that make them great Manga as never seen before so don't say One is better than the other because everyone has their their preferences and will enjoy that one more than the other in the end I'm just saying this because their is always a debate between those two and Bleach for some reason

[Super Boom]

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I don't find find One Piece engaging not saying its not good it is great in fact but I've never got into it and I gave it a legitimate chance read well over 200 chapters straight I'm just TIRED of all of this "One Piece is better than Naruto!" ITS NOT! Its more popular yes and more read but it's not better in fact online I always see Naruto being read more than One Piece They both have special Qualities that make them great Manga as never seen before so don't say One is better than the other because everyone has their their preferences and will enjoy that one more than the other in the end I'm just saying this because their is always a debate between those two and Bleach for some reason

One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach are all great manga, and it's pointless to try and compare them. Besides, even if one were to say that one is better than the other, that's that individual's own opinion. What you may like, other people may not. I could write paragraphs on how Bleach and OP outshine Naruto in certain areas, but that'd be nothing more than my own personal opinion.
Besides, the fact that we have a One Piece Discussion Thread on a Naruto fansite should be proof enough that it's possible to enjoy another manga while still enjoying Naruto.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 01 July 2011 - 02:41 AM.

[Phantom_999]

I'm aware of that that's why I'm sick of debates on which is the best on e there is non because it depends on the views of the readers I personally say Naruto is MUCH better than Bleach or One Piece but that's just MY opinion doesn't mean that it is Or I could Say they are topped by Full Metal Alchemist (but its actually tied with Naruto for my favorite ) again my views we don't have to argue just share our preferences while trying to acknowledge the tastes or preferences of others yeah so anyway I HAVE been more interested in One Piece recently I've been reading the time skip and its pulling me in more but not a huge amount

Edited by Phantom_999, 01 July 2011 - 10:45 AM.

[harry4e]

The fact that One Piece is ahead of the other manga's in Japans by such a massive margin for me is a good indication of how much better it is compared to the other manga, Me personally, Naruto has the best charactor from all the Manga's that's Naruto himself, you can take him and put him in any of the other two manga's and you can imagine it being a better manga with him in it, it also has the rivalry that drives the story forward, but One Piece has the best individuals, from happy go lucky Luffy, Money obsessed Nmi, wimpy super liar Ussop Calm Robin, Perverted Sanji etc. and by far the best story arcs, there is a bigger story being told, but there are individual arcs that can all stand up on their own (with the possible exception of the Saving Ace arc which was more part of the main story and not so much a standalone) as an indidual story but it's also all linked to the main story, I've said it before but when I read the other manga's I get the feeling that the Mangaka are making it up as are going along, specially with Naruto when Kishimoto says one thing in the interviews and it never comes to fruition, like how last year was meant to be year of Kakashi and we hardly see him, and this we were meant to see Shikamarut take the role of Naruto's right hand man. I never got the feeling when I read One Piece, it always felt like it was a solid story where the the Magaka knows exactly where the story is heading and has the arcs all planned out, atleast in rough form.

[Phantom_999]

Well I'd Say Naruto is the best in Shonen Jump but that's just me anyway about that only Naruto drives his story and could make any other manga better comment, well that's the same for One Piece isn't it? Main characters MAKE their stories no matter how great and fantastic the other characters in the manga are, plain and simple. The crew wouldn't be having all those wild, interesting adventures without Luffy would they? One thing though I think what you mean is more popular, not better because better is just personal view. Maybe I just view things from you. I am totally satisfied with Naruto's story because I love the plot, drama, powers and fights, and also I feel all aspects of the story are being explored, same thing with FullMetal Alchemist. One Piece on the other hand, Well I acknowledge its great and all and Stats show that it sells more than any other Shonen Jump manga in history, Dragon Ball included and that's amazing( well at least in Japan because worldwide Dragon Ball sold a Whopping 300 Million with 150 million in japan) but for me the plot is not being expanded on per say, or how do I put this.... I enjoy the exploring, however does it ever feel Luffy is getting closer to his goal or any indication of the plot progressing I just wonder but I guess that's just part of its appeal and I think that Naruto's other characters can stand on their own too actually just in their own styles and in different ways

Edited by Phantom_999, 02 July 2011 - 06:21 AM.

[harry4e]

Let see, We have seen Luffy start off as a one man crew, slowly getting stronger with experience, (Not just new moves but moves he's spent a lifetime learning becoming more powerful) then he was given a real wake up call when the entire crew were easily defeated, he then went on a suicide mission to rescue his brother, and again we were shown the difference between him and the big boys. He's learnt that even if you give it 100% and come inches within your goal, you can still end up losing. We've got an entire crew who have a history and a dream they want to achieve, we've seen them all struggle and get stronger, we've seen them have their disagreements and we've seen their bond grow and understand why they trust their captain explicitly, because he's saved them all and never come in the way of their dreams. And now we have the timeskip...so do I think Luffy is closer to achieving his goal? Hell Yeah.

I'll be honest with you, it took my mate ALLOT of convincing to get me to even give One Piece a go, I'd had the unfortunate displeasure of watching the 4Kids version of the anime some years back and it left me with a bad taste in my mouth and the artwork took a while to adjust too...but I finally relented (after over a year of putting it off) and watched the series, and within 2 week i'd watched around 300 episodes, I was hooked, I didn't think for one second that any manga could draw me in like Naruto did, but it did, where in Naruto the story shifted from Naruto gaining recognition and aiming to be Hokage to saving Sasuke. One Piece always had one simple aim, and that was for Luffy to become Pirate king and obtain the One Piece, Initially this didn't appeal as much as Naruto's plight, but more I read I realised like with Naruto it was not an easy path, for Luffy to achieve his dream he'd need to be selfless, be a hero but be painted as an enemy, the lines were blurred, the enemies were not just the pirates but a corrupt World Government.

Besides I don't see the point of having this argument with you, you've admitted to only reading 200 chapters of One Piece, I've read and watched both the shows from beginning and to the current chapter and have come to my conclusion after that. Naruto might be one my favourite charactors, Itachi backstory and sacrifice will be one of the greatest revelation for me, Sasuke will be one of my most hated charactors, but as a whole package, story, plot development, charactor development, balance, continuaty, One Piece is better...it's not like 'Apple' branded products, where the brand name gives it a big boost over the others, these are both Manga's that are published in the same magazine, read by the same people week in week out, yet these same people who have read both the manga's still in the majority choose to buy the Manga volumes for One Piece over Naruto by a ratio of around 4:1, This is where your argument falls short, the majority don't need to buy the manga volumes as they already read them in the Shounon Jump, but still choose to buy it when the Manga Volumes are released, this can only be down to the quality of the manga.

[Phantom_999]

I'm not arguing with you it's my opinion I'd say 200 hundred chapters is a fair shake because most manga don't even get that many chapters Naruto did not even need 100 hundred for me to get into it I just wasn't wasn't drawn into One Piece like you. Yes Naruto's goals have shifted but He is Still aiming t be Hokage its only that it doesn't show much because it's overshadowed by his obsession to save Sasuke Yes its's Annoying to seee him senselessly trying to bring back someone who doesn't want to be saved but heck its human nature anyone would try to save one of their most important people even if they know its hopeless, they want to succeed because if it looks impossible, they don't want to lose that person again that's just natrural. And again I KNOW One Piece more popular. When you say that it sells more than any manga in history so far yes I agree with you and it has the most consistent readership but thats popularity you're talking about. saying its better than other manga or the best is controversial. If you could ask EVERY SINGLE person on the planet if One Piece is the best manga I'm sure you'd get just as much nos as yeses because They Might Say Naruto (including me), Bleach, Dragon Ball, FullMetal Alchemist (including me), HSDK(History's strongest disciple Kenichi, another one of my favorites) just to name a few would be the best manga and I'm just as sure there are many people who would say Manga series that did not reach 100 or even 50 chapters would be the best manga. So I agree One Piece is an amazing Success but so are Naruto and Bleach and Whether or not its better or the best can be argued over and over again I'm just pointing this fact out not, arguing but I apologize if its seems that I am. Anways you read the new chapter yet? It seemed interesting but unless it's about the main characters it's not so engaging. You could admit to that right?

Edited by Phantom_999, 07 July 2011 - 02:44 AM.

[harry4e]

Actually I found the new chapter very interesting, it showed how once again fooled his readers, he gave us a pathetic looking main antagonist and just when you start to think it's going downhill, he flips the coin and you realise that he was playing with us and we now have an antagonist that can really be a problem and even with the new training it will be difficult for Luffy to win. I don't mind the chapters that don't involve the main charactor that much in One Piece, we have Zoro, Nami, Ussop, and Robin who I enjoy reading about, I really missed their presence over the two years they weren't there, Yes it's not AS engaging, but it's not it's not like Naruto where if you don't see Naruto for a few weeks you get bored no matter how good the story is.

This is where you are confusing your personal opinion over fact, As I've mentioned before I love Naruto, If I read fanfiction it would be about Naruto, don't even bother with One Piece fanfic, but when I took a step back and analysed both Manga's after reading both of them competely I couldn't deny the fact One Piece is the better of the two, even if I personally had preffered Naruto over the two (which I don't) I would still admit that One Piece is the better manga for it's overall cast, (not just core charactors) storyline, engaging battle, humour, and development. In fact up until the end of Hidan and the guy with five hearts arc, I personally enjoyed reading Naruto over One Piece, but even then if anyone asked me which manga was better I would have still said One Piece, because I knew personal feelings aside One Piece the better of the two, though by only a small margin, which has since expanded, because i've felt the arcs have followed a very similar pattern since the RasenShuriken Arc, which has lost some of it's appeal for me.

BTW: Chapter 631 is out for anyone interested.

[Phantom_999]

But its also your personal opinion that One Piece is better too it's anyone's personal opinion on what is "the Best" so there really is no "Best" Manga and you can't say your choice is unbiased if one lost appeal to you( just saying). You say One Piece, I Say Naruto and Full metal Alchemist, and it's opinion for anyone which manga is the best that's all I'm trying to point out lets just leave it that so the chapter

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Well It wasn't about the main characters really only that the fishman island princes are trying to take back the kingdom and WE all know the'll fail eventually not saying it was bad but's it is predictable then again all manga are predictable

Edited by Phantom_999, 26 July 2011 - 05:49 AM.

[KungFuTruffle]

Chapter 632 is out.

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Oda-sensei is sick, so there won't be a chapter next week. Best wishes to him for a speedy recovery!

I'm shocked. SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked. In fact, I'm pretty sure I called it. Hodi is the one who killed the Queen. Well, duh. It was obvious. But his announcing it in front of everyone from Fishmen Island is going to come around to bite him in the ass. He just confessed to murder in front of thousands of people. You can't really turn around and say "Oh, I was joking!" when there's that many eyewitnesses to your confession and actions.

... Vander Decken fired a ship half the size of the entire island?! Freakin' hell! That's one badass Devil Fruit!

I don't think Jinbei is really captured. No way somebody as strong as he is goes down so easily. He's faking it, waiting for the right time to strike.

Edited by KungFuTruffle, 27 July 2011 - 10:38 PM.

[Phantom_999]

No kidding!? well I hope you get well sensei!!!

[KungFuTruffle]

One Piece Chapter 633 is out!

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THE STRAW HATS ARE BACK!

Ha! I knew Jinbei wouldn't go down that easily! And look at how well he fits into the crew shot! If he doesn't join, I'll be very disappointed.

Damn, for a crybaby, Shirahoshi is one of the most awesome characters in the series. Trying not to hate the person that murdered your mother? That takes some real strength.

Nami, I love you. Never change.

Luffy is, as always, awesome. An epic entrance combined with a badass boast? Yes, please!

[Phantom_999]

well things are kicking up at least back to the fight scenes one of the stories main driving point IMO

[KungFuTruffle]

Chapter 634 is out.

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Just an explanation of the plan this time. It was simple, but sometimes the simple things are the best.

Luffy defeating 50,000 soldiers with one blast is awesome. He's even better with Haki than Rayleigh is, and that's saying something. I can't wait until Luffy fights one of the Admirals again. That's going to be so cool.

[Phantom_999]

Chapter 634 is out.

Spoilers --Click here to view--

Just an explanation of the plan this time. It was simple, but sometimes the simple things are the best.

Luffy defeating 50,000 soldiers with one blast is awesome. He's even better with Haki than Rayleigh is, and that's saying something. I can't wait until Luffy fights one of the Admirals again. That's going to be so cool.

Touche

[Darth Krypt]

Phew after a 3 week marathon of OP episodes I have finally caught up with the series all the way to the latest chapter. I have to say no other series had ever affected me emotionally like OP has. It made me feel for the characters, feeling angry and sad along with them. The anime team did an excellent job conveying the story dramatically. Alot of manly tears were shed. And I have to say the story planning was really well thought from the beginning. Things that appear insignificant in previous arcs proof to be very important to the whole story. I think this series is slightly better than Naruto now(sorry Phantom, I like FMA btw heh). Unlike most series where it gets draggy having been here for so long, it actually gets better and better with each arc. And we're only halfway there!

10th straw hat crewmember --Click here to view--

Since this thread only discuss recent chapters, why not we give ideas on who would be the next person to join this colourful crew? To me the most important requirement to be part of the crew is to have a personal dream and fulfill it once they finish sailing the Grand Line. Based on the current arc, I'm 90% sure the next crew member would have the dream where fishmen/mermaids will live together with humans in harmony. There are 2 types of candidates for this. One is a fishmen or mermaid, the other is Koala. Alot of people want Jinbei to join but I don't think so. I don't think he fits in the group being a former Shichibukai and having too much experience already. Shirahoshi is unlikely since she won't be able to go into land and she's not yet 30 to have legs. And she can't really fight unless you include her skills of being able to control sea kings. I think she'll just be a recurring character.

That leaves Koala to be the strongest candidate. She has a dreadful pass being a slave and she already had some flashbacks which would save some trouble once the crew meet her. There is a theory going around that Jewelery Bonney is actually Koala. I'm not so sure about that but some evidence being put out is that Bonney escaped from the WG and has a grudge against the Marines shouting that she will never forgive them, for killing Tiger maybe. Even if they're not the same person, this two characters would definitely serve a greater purpose in the future. Bonney has been in captive for 2 years and had already lost her whole crew.

Well what to you guys think?

Anyway, why the hell is there a "mermaid" with a snorkel??

Edited by Darth Krypt, 05 August 2011 - 05:25 PM.

[harry4e]

I don't know...maybe she has asthma?

Chapter 639 Looks like it's not been posted here for a while, My Zoro/Robin fanboy was waken after over two years, not so much about Sanji/Nami, looked like a bully to me.

[Torxe]

The more chapters I read the more I think that Jinbei is likely to join the crew or at least form some kind of alliance with them => like whitebeard had all those pirate crews under his command