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[KillerzQP]

Statement: Naruto sequel should have taken place in a far future (ex. 50 years later or so) in order to tackle more potentials to use its universe in a different timeline, as well as have a new character that doesn't need to be relative of Naruto. Think it as Legend of Korra.

Agree or disagree?

I semi-disagree . Personally I think there shouldn't be a sequel at all (unless the ending set up a third part of Naruto's journey).

Why? Because Naruto's generation was supposed to surpass that of the past one. The problems of the Naruto world was supposed to be resolved (like the cycle of hatred, etc), at least that's the impression I got from the series (at the very least before the ending happened...). So in my opinion there wouldn't be a need for a sequel.
 

But nonetheless, the idea is interesting and could always be executed well (with well storytelling and such) and it would most likely be way better than the sequel we have now (again, if it were executed properly).  So I wouldn't mind it if it was well made.

(New on the site btw, have been checking rather frequently here for about 1&1/2 years now. Decided it was time to join).

[Bail o' Lies]

I semi-disagree . Personally I think there shouldn't be a sequel at all (unless the ending set up a third part of Naruto's journey).

Why? Because Naruto's generation was supposed to surpass that of the past one. The problems of the Naruto world was supposed to be resolved (like the cycle of hatred, etc), at least that's the impression I got from the series (at the very least before the ending happened...). So in my opinion there wouldn't be a need for a sequel.
 

But nonetheless, the idea is interesting and could always be executed well (with well storytelling and such) and it would most likely be way better than the sequel we have now (again, if it were executed properly).  So I wouldn't mind it if it was well made.

(New on the site btw, have been checking rather frequently here for about 1&1/2 years now. Decided it was time to join).

You can actually have a sequel of Naruto. It just depending on the ending and the materials it was given. For example if Naruto "reformed the ninja system." Then you could have a sequel that showed the effect of those reforms and continued with further reforms. To bring and continue peace brought on by the reforms.

 

Now? With what the given this manga over the last year? No. The ending message after 15 years was Naruto telling Bolt to "endure it." It abandon all other message for hinata to get what she wanted. The Last was entirely about hinata getting what she wanted. The novels are just to justify the Last and the ending. The gaiden was to bashed/defend SS but did give them the theme "What is a ninja?" And the movie has given them their plot so far -which is because they are rehashing it-, which was about accepting his father didn't care about his family. That he should just accept it and just look for a role model in Sasuke.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 10 May 2016 - 08:21 AM.

[rocci]

@touken
I disagree, you can make a story with burito.
What important is the execution of the story.

Making it 50 years later doesn't guarantee a good story.

[BlackBird19]

Statement: Naruto sequel should have taken place in a far future (ex. 50 years later or so) in order to tackle more potentials to use its universe in a different timeline, as well as have a new character that doesn't need to be relative of Naruto. Think it as Legend of Korra.

Agree or disagree?

I agree, but mostly because of Boruto's initial characterization. It was like an instant rehash of young Naruto. Not to mention the insistence of using only children of the Konoha 11 or other well known characters. There just didn't feel like there was gonna be any real original material at that instance. Wanting to get to the next generation so quickly seems to have boxed them in as far as new ideas for the continuation of the story.

 

If they had taken their time and thought up some new ways to incorporate all new characters in with just a couple of characters related to the original series it probably would have allowed them to really come up with all new ideas for the Naruto universe.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have to agree on the idea because as long as Naruto and Sasuke are alive, it's hard to believe that the world can be in danger with someone godly as they are. Yes, they have dimensions bs going but the problem is that Boruto is being highlighted as a chosen one, which can't be possible unless requirements are met. He is not jinchuuriki, didn't get prophecy of bringing peace, not a reincarnation, and well, he's not Naruto.

If you go to the future, Naruto and Sasuke not around anymore would bring a new story with new and original problems because of timeline and characters. Regardless of flaws in Legend of Korra, it at least use the advantage of its future timeline in the same universe. It's true that you can still write a decent story with Boruto, but with its direction, it seems all too familiar. That and the further into the future is more interesting.

But if I were to choose to have a sequel or not, I'll do no sequel.

[tricksie]

Statement: Naruto sequel should have taken place in a far future (ex. 50 years later or so) in order to tackle more potentials to use its universe in a different timeline, as well as have a new character that doesn't need to be relative of Naruto. Think it as Legend of Korra.

Agree or disagree?

 

Agree. Sort of.

 

I think it would have made for a much more interesting story, especially with the backdrop of a super modern Konoha. Like the difference between New Republic City in ATLA: LoK instead of Aang's time in ATLA. Would also work well with the idea that ninjas and ninja warfare is a thing of the past. 

 

Setting it father in the future definitely makes sense with the amount of progress were are supposed to accept has happened. (As it is now, the modern stuff (skyscrapers in Konoha, Naruto using a computer) is almost ridiculously stupid.)

 

However, if you set it a generation or two in the future, then the Boruto character would have to be Naruto's grandson or great grandson. 

 

You could write a really awesome story that way in fact.... Would make a great fanfic, if nothing else.

 

edit: come to think of it - I think 90 years would be better than 50. 80-90 years is enough for people to forget things. 50 years isn't. Wasn't ATLA to LoK 80 or 90 years?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Statement: Kaguya is the main problem to War Arc or even in general. While the series has other flaws, the reason to say she made it worse, if not solidly destroyed it, was because not only she was the starting point of all mayhem but it also made everything in life manufactured, everything was in controlled, and barely anything was genuine to their problems or characters.

Agree or disagree?

[rocci]

Disagree.
She make it worse but She's not the main problem.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Disagree.
She make it worse but She's not the main problem.

I ask because I actually saw some of them did say that along with the family. I mean I can understand why though. Uchiha vs. Senju was once for a reason among themselves, only to become a reason of misunderstanding, which hurt the universe greatly.

[Nostradamus]

Statement: Kaguya is the main problem to War Arc or even in general. While the series has other flaws, the reason to say she made it worse, if not solidly destroyed it, was because not only she was the starting point of all mayhem but it also made everything in life manufactured, everything was in controlled, and barely anything was genuine to their problems or characters.

Agree or disagree?

Disagree. The main problem with the War Arc is not Kaguya, it's the War Arc itself.

It was poorly handled and poorly planned from the very beginning. Long before they planned to introduce the flying spaghetti monster.

[LuckyChi7]

Disagree. The main problem with the War Arc is not Kaguya, it's the War Arc itself.

It was poorly handled and poorly planned from the very beginning. Long before they planned to introduce the flying spaghetti monster.

 

 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Disagree.

As others have said, Kaguya was simply just another problem on top of a mountain of problems with the entirety of the War Arc in of itself. Kaguya (no Hamura) actually could've been an interesting add-on twist (barring forced Hinata/Byakugan inclusion) if Kishi/Shueisha actually gave a crap about the story and characters and worked things properly.

[Skarrow]

Statement: Kaguya is the main problem to War Arc or even in general. While the series has other flaws, the reason to say she made it worse, if not solidly destroyed it, was because not only she was the starting point of all mayhem but it also made everything in life manufactured, everything was in controlled, and barely anything was genuine to their problems or characters.

Agree or disagree?

Disagree. The main problem of the war arc is the numerous plot holes and tumors and retcons it gave birth to. And said war arc dragged on for years and years. Kaguya was just another cool idea in the "cool idea" pile with horrible execution. Like all the other cool ideas.

Edited by Skarrow, 21 May 2016 - 01:09 AM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Statement: There are better versions of Naruto on Fanfiction.net. 

 

Agree or Disagree?

[Frankie]

Statement: There are better versions of Naruto on Fanfiction.net. 
 
Agree or Disagree?

Oh I am gonna have to agree 1000%

[Bail o' Lies]

Statement: Kaguya is the main problem to War Arc or even in general. While the series has other flaws, the reason to say she made it worse, if not solidly destroyed it, was because not only she was the starting point of all mayhem but it also made everything in life manufactured, everything was in controlled, and barely anything was genuine to their problems or characters.

Agree or disagree?

No. She just one of the many problem. Anyways like i said before she is barely a character she is just a "final boss battle" for team 7. And Even then she is just part of them trying to justify the last plot lines, and trying to make the byakugan something important to the plot despite they'd  been ignoring it for over a dozen years.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 May 2016 - 05:11 AM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Statement: There are better versions of Naruto on Fanfiction.net. 

 

Agree or Disagree?

Yes. Especially by those who write the characters like they were supposed to be written like. 

[VanitasDS76491]

Yes. Especially by those who write the characters like they were supposed to be written like. 

 

Yes they're hell I've read ones were Hinata is way better and does more in the story and is not like the ending had her. I've even seen ones were Naruto and Sasuke are really friends and ones were he didn't get revenge on Itachi but forgive him.
 

[Nate River]

Statement: There are better versions of Naruto on Fanfiction.net. 

 

Agree or Disagree?

 

 

I agree, but to be fair fanfic writers have a lot more freedom in both direction and time constraints. There are some damn good fanfic authors out their and in almost every series I've seen there is at least one who does a superior job with the source material. So, I don't like to dump on Kishimoto for this.

 

tatement: Kaguya is the main problem to War Arc or even in general. While the series has other flaws, the reason to say she made it worse, if not solidly destroyed it, was because not only she was the starting point of all mayhem but it also made everything in life manufactured, everything was in controlled, and barely anything was genuine to their problems or characters.

Agree or disagree

 

Disagree. 

 

Kaguya was terrible. She was Kishimoto's answer to the corner he had written himself into and as such she had no character. It's an insult to characters to call her one. Black Zetsu largely spoke for her (and he was barely a character). There was simply nothing there. That said, if that had been the one blemish of the war arc it would have been an error, but a forgivable one. 

 

The war is awful because of the systematic trashing of many of the characters and story lines, the cheapening of death, the facelessness of the enemy, the loss of control on power levels and so on. Even if Kaguya had depth it wouldn't have saved the war arc.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have to disagree as well. As crappy it was to have her the final villain (technically), there were many problems before her. It's just that the fight consisted lack of tensions, more logic tossed out of the window, anti-climatic ending, and almost no point of it. You can write this with Madara and it would have been the same thing, except it will be a bit satisfying than what we got because at least we know the heroes took out the villain that was around for the longest.