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[*- ZerΩ -*]

I have a feeling that this chapter really turned upside down the forum...

We are 134 users talking for about 7HOURS about SS/NS being dead,and wether it was love or loved..

Like what the hell..

We still got chapters to see... Lets wait up to see whats happens RELAX!!!

Edited by *- ZerΩ -*, 25 September 2014 - 03:54 PM.

[Diadochi]

In regards to this chapter... I'm not angry at Sakura, I'm just disappointed in her. What she has to understand is that love in an extremely powerful emotion and Sasuke has done absolutely nothing to earn such an emotionally charged response from her. Just the fact that she still chooses to have feelings for a person who tried to kill her is delusional. And it's getting harder for me to support her over Hinata considering how much Naruto has proved himself to her. But in the end, I guess it doesn't matter. The heart wants what the heart wants apparently.

[elmas]

I just want to say these things:

Sasuke, you kitten!

Sakura,make your decision

Naruto,confess already

Kakashi,show your face...

[lord287]

Guys why are you not worried?? SS may be dead but NS is too!! She said that she still loved Sasuke! WTF KISHI

 

SOMEONE HELP ME
EXPLAIN TO ME
HOW OUR SHIP IS STILL SAILING

The many super Positive people here are making this ship sail and the people with their eyes open can easily sense that NS was given a big blow as well, because till now Sakura STILL loved Sasuke and now NS becoming canon cannot happen without Naruto looking like a second guy.

 

OMG I nearly had a kittening heart attack when I saw the panel of sasuke stabbing Sakura.

But seriously though.. I adore Sakura and everything. But this "I loved sasuke-Kun" bullsh** needs to stop. Please kishi, don't kitten this up & make it seem naruto is Sakura's silver medal.

According to me it is already kittened up now. Considering we are at the end of the manga their either will be a biggest unbeleivable stupid asspull which will make NS canon where Naruto will remain loking like backup plan/second guy or NS might just become canon forcibly, where Naruto will again be made to look stupid and a man in sselfless love without any self respect.

[Anthony]

I suggest a time-out for everyone, it's not cool to argue over something such as stupid as this tense thing.

 

Don't care for the parings right now, I want to see Naruto maturing.

[TacticalFox88]

You know, I've had time to reflect on everything.

 

Let's be kittening honest here. Like REALLY honest. Even if some of the content we didn't like in this chapter wasn't there....the road to NS would STILL be kitten writing.

 

In other words, the resolution was going to be awful, even with an outcome we all liked, muddied by unnecessary character assassinations, missed opportunities, and just plain old plot induced stupidity.

 

So, kitten it. Let NS happen however you want Kishi.

 

It's not like we honestly expected it to be THAT great in the first place. You're just continuing a trend of train wreck writing that we already have discussed ad nauseum for nearly five years. 

[Liu bie]

I need to read the manga in spanish.

[LuckyChi7]

For those who wish to keep your opinion and feel good:

Just take a break from here. This is going to be a long wait and it all depends if we do go back and forth with the battle and the meanwhile alas Kakashi/Sakura/maybe Hagoromo. So take a break, see where it all lies on.

 

Good way to put it, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Kishi has in mind.

 

 

Remember guys the volume did technically just start so we'll be here for a while. Use this time to cool down play Destiny, social activities, or something to keep you occupied till next week. 

[elmas]

Ughhhh I'm going.Guys,please RELAX!

[TouKen4Life3g]

I got work to do, so I guess I'll do that. Though I am writing a LAP very soon. Anyway, everyone, just relax.

[Gojira]

Why are we discussing NS like its not an option?

 

Its not IF its going to happen its if Kishi is really dumb enough to make Naruto a silver medal because Sasuke>>>everyone.

[thiagoSPTN]

Now that Sakura and Kakashi are alone, it makes me remind of this: http://www.narusaku....showtopic=13041

I'm having the feeling that this discussion will happen in the next chapters, Kakashi will releases Sakura from the genjutsu and they will talk like that. 

Edited by thiagoSPTN, 25 September 2014 - 04:06 PM.

[ns.Believe.It]

More than anything, what bothers me in this chapter is Naruto's reaction to the exchange between Sakura and Sasuke.  I suppose it could be that Naruto views Sakura as an equal so completely that he gives her freedom in her interactions with Sasuke, but that's rather inconsistent with the protectiveness and boyish jealousy that he displays at other times.

 

It's as if Kishimoto has intentionally emasculated Naruto in terms of competing with Sasuke as a man worthy of Sakura's affection.  Naruto doesn't stick up for her the way I would expect a guy in love would, whether he believes he has a chance with her or not.  If I were him, I would want to beat the living snot out of Sasuke for his coldness.  I don't know.  Something about it just doesn't ring true.

KnS, You are being too harsh on Naruto. He is not the same kid with boyish jealousy anymore, he has matured. 

 

You want Naruto to stick up for and defend Sakura? From what? Sasuke did not abuse her or hurt her. He was just expressing how he felt about Sakura.

 

You mention Naruto did not behave like a guy in love would. Did Sakura behave in the right way? If the girl you like is telling another guy (YOUR RIVAL which makes it even worse) that she loved him and asks whether he has a place for her in his heart, how would you feel? How do you think Naruto felt when he heard her say those things? I'm sure he was hurt.

 

Its wrong to expect anything from Naruto here.

[FreakySandra1995]

Now that Sakura and Kakashi are alone, it makes me remind of this: http://www.narusaku....showtopic=13041

I'm having the feeling that this discussion will happen in the next chapters, Kakashi will releases Sakura from the genjutsu and they will talk like that. 

Yeah, that's something I had thought about myself. It would give them the perfect opportunity. 

[Broken Figurine]

Yeah, while I'm not pleased with what Sakura was doing this chapter I can sort of understand she's just trying a desperate approach just like she did once upon a time; but wouldn't she have learned from the past that it just doesn't work? One thing that confuses me about all this is how it shows Naruto's and Sasuke's backs in the panels beforehand, and then suddenly Sakura comes to what seems to be a determined look? Maybe this was giving Sasuke one last chance before making her decision? That is how I wanted to view it. Get it all out there, see his reaction. I can't forget that this is Sakura who still suspected Sasuke--who felt like she couldn't trust him. That, and her history, and good storytelling makes me have faith that there was a greater set up for her actions. 

 

My issue is everything that followed. They talked over her about the nature of love, in a way that means to excuse Sasuke for his hatred and everything, as well as justify why Sakura holding on and loving Sasuke is a good thing/makes sense? The Sage mentions how favouring one son over the other lead to hatred. Perhaps in this way he means to say it is a good thing that Sakura loves them both? I don't understand though; it's not her place to act as Sasuke's mother or for what he lost. Actually, it is Sakura who is the one who lost what she once had here. She lost team 7 by losing Sasuke. That is what can be hoped to be regained. Then there is Kakashi being like "love is a weird thing". 

 

It juggles two things; unhealthy obsession with Sasuke, and Sasuke's unhealthy persona in general. He's the character people love without it making sense, and in the dialogue between the Sage and Kakashi they're trying to somehow explain it but it doesn't work for me. It tries to explain Sasuke's behaviour and while I understand he lost so much and gave into hatred, what of all those people who never did? It makes it seem like if you suffer tragedy there is only a path to hatred--that you can't choose to still remain a moral person. By getting rid of that, it's as if Sasuke can't really be blamed. The right thing to do is to save this person, and still love them and care for them. I'm not saying that it's a fault in Naruto and Sakura to want to save him--but their feelings are what is so odd. All of the "I loved you" and "We're great friends" is so contrived, so unrealistic that it causes me to feel disappointed in the characters for feeling that way. 

 

Naruto didn't try to stop Sasuke, and his admonishment of what he did was really lame compared to the action Sasuke took. Even though it's just a genjustu, he planted the feeling of getting her chest ripped through AND DYING as well as insulting her and her feelings. That's really despicable, but no one takes care for that. I just hope that when she wakes up, she takes that message... wait for it... to heart. I don't want her to love and forgive Sasuke. I want her to save him because that's what's right, but I don't want her to forgive him. I don't want her to be smile and be like "team 7 is back!" because it's not. There's too much history now that would take time to get over--time to forgive. The only way Kishimoto gets out of that is by having the characters, all characters, stubbornly still hold on to their feelings so when the time for redemption comes, it's a dream come true and they're ready to do what they've done all along: love and forgive him. 

 

It's just poor handling. I don't even care whether it supports NaruSaku or SasuSaku or whatever because this effects everything. This is the handling of a major plot point and conflict in the story and it's not satisfying to me personally. I actually would have rather if Sakura just stayed quiet and none of this discussion took place. At least there is speculation and hope in ambiguity. 

[Princess Iris]

I knew now ppl will hate on Sakura more!


I have only one thing to say
"U misinterpreted everything "

[lord287]

Okay, I'm sorry, but GTFO. What's your deal? "Hoping Sakura to die" my ass. How the hell is she back to part 1 Sakura? Smh... 

 

Since she said she STILL LOVED Sasuke what hellish proof do you want to believe that Sakura really never moved on in the romantic side of her. Even after Sasuke attempting to kill her she loved him, even when she confessed to Naruto she was in love with Sasuke, during chapter 540 she was in love with Sasuke and for godsake if by any chance Mangastream's translations are correct, what will be your reaction then. Still be loving Sakura and believing Sakura has developed over the course of part 2 and her time spent with Naruto.

[Sakura~]

Lets wait for the raw and see..

[MangaReader]

I'm almost certain someone pointed this out seeing as there is 33 pages... but the devil advocate in me says the undertones of this chapter do indicate that Kakashi and the Sage want Sasuke to learn love again. Does that mean SS, no, but it's the setting that set up this discussion. I dunno, maybe I'm over analyzing this, but maybe that's just the slight fear I had reading the damn thing. 

 

I'll have you know I was reading it for what it was, so it's not like Sasuke is hiding his feelings or anything, no one calls someone annoying, knocks them out with violent imagery, and tells someone else said knocked out person would just get in the way out of love no matter how much you try to BS it. Honestly, I would not be shocked if SS is clamoring right now...after all, apparently Sasuke saved Sakura and Kakashi because he really did care, not because they just happened to be next to Naruto lol 

[HuntTheWill]

Sasuke: "I don't see what she likes about me...."
 
I'm not sure why he only singled her out; I've been wondering what anyone liked about him.

Edited due to confusion on original post.

Edited by HuntTheWill, 25 September 2014 - 04:37 PM.