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#601 shisui

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

 Her choosing Naruto is out of her own free will and not because of some obligation.

I did not say she was being forced. But what if Naruto confesses to her? She has to make a decision.

 

 

Dude, are you 100% sure you're a NS fan? Drama/Angst =/= Romantic love .

 

What do you want me to say?

 

Pathetic things? You call hyperventilating and fainting pathetic? This is like calling a heart attack pathetic  , Sasuke is someone who Naruto cares quite a lot and him being lost in darkness didn't bring a positive effect on Naruto's feelings overall , pathetic ? That's called a strong bond.

 

It is pathetic for the two of them from where I look. Sasuke degraded Naruto, ignored him, and tried to kill him too, yet he still thinks he's his friend. It was the same with Sakura. But Kishi thinks this is cool, making Naruto a hero and Sakura a kind girl. So we have to accept. That's what I meant.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 10:32 AM

This chapter illustrated why I can't like Hinata as a character much less support NH. The only thing she ever says is "Naruto-kun". It's gotten to the point of me wonder if Kishi is doing it intentionally. What is she, some new 7th Gen Pokemon?



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Posted 23 May 2014 - 10:39 AM

What do you want me to say?

Whatever you wish .
 

 

It is pathetic for the two of them from where I look. Sasuke degraded Naruto, ignored him, and tried to kill him too, yet he still thinks he's his friend. It was the same with Sakura. But Kishi thinks this is cool, making Naruto a hero and Sakura a kind girl. So we have to accept. That's what I meant.

 

This has to do with bonds. Naruto can connect to a Sasuke on a level no one else could ever do and vise verse . He was one of the first people to acknowledge him and see him not as a monster and that in Naruto's eyes is quite the major  thing .And you forget that saving Sasuke is the plot . Sakura wants to help Naruto and knows how precious Sasuke is to him and does what she can to help him ,even though she was ready to remove him from the living to stop Naruto from hurting .

Naruto is the hero, that's that obvious.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:26 AM

I disagree Sasuke is showing care for Naruto by protecting him. What he said: they're both needed to defeat Madara. He didn't say he protected him because he cares about him.

 

As usual, the yaoi fangirls take it too far. Making excuses for Sasuke to have protected Sakura and Kakashi with Susanoo only because they were next to Naruto, but then Sasuke was protecting Naruto for reasons that he never meant.

 

Sasuke cares about the three of them, or he cares about none of them.

In this moment Sasuke only cares about himself. He protected Naruto because he needs him so Madara can be defeated. In the future when we'll get the fight between Naruto and Sasuke; then we're going to get some flashbacks to show us that Sasuke cares about Naruto, Sakura, Kakashi and the rest. But so far he doesn't care.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:37 AM

Nobody gave me his opinion about this, so I guess I'll just repost it.

I would like you to think about it :

 

 

Some people on other forums are saying that Hinata is kind of partly immune to the genjutsu thanks to her byakugan, and that why she's concious and thinking while everybody else seem frozen. What do you think about that ? That could be true because we have not seen anybody else thinking.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:41 AM

Not true because the idea is that everyone is not truly sleeping rather being frozen in shut. That's why we have Sarutobi going "What's going on?" since everyone is in still. Nobody fall down like putting to sleep, rather they are frozen. I believe it was KnS that said it best, it is one scary jutsu. So it's like izanagi only eternal unless he/she is stopped.

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:44 AM

Not true because the idea is that everyone is not truly sleeping rather being frozen in shut. That's why we have Sarutobi going "What's going on?" since everyone is in still. Nobody fall down like putting to sleep, rather they are frozen. I believe it was KnS that said it best, it is one scary jutsu. So it's like izanagi only eternal unless he/she is stopped.

 

Sarutobi is not affected. He's an edo tensei. Maybe I didn't understood what you wanted to say ?


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:47 AM

Nobody gave me his opinion about this, so I guess I'll just repost it.

I would like you to think about it :

 

 

Some people on other forums are saying that Hinata is kind of partly immune to the genjutsu thanks to her byakugan, and that why she's concious and thinking while everybody else seem frozen. What do you think about that ? That could be true because we have not seen anybody else thinking.

This is just people trying desperately to find ways to make Hinata relevant. She's not immune to the infinite tsukuyomi she got trapped just like everyone else. The only ones that we've seen to be probably immune or just didn't get caught are Ten-Ten and Bee (I'm talking about living beings). Ten-Ten hasn't been caught yet and Bee we don't really know because we never saw his eyes to confirm if the infinite tsukuyomi works on him or not.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

This is just people trying desperately to find ways to make Hinata relevant. She's not immune to the infinite tsukuyomi she got trapped just like everyone else. The only ones that we've seen to be probably immune or just didn't get caught are Ten-Ten and Bee (I'm talking about living beings). Ten-Ten hasn't been caught yet and Bee we don't really know because we never saw his eyes to confirm if the infinite tsukuyomi works on him or not.

 

No I said "partly" immune.

She is able to think, and since we don't see anyone else thinking, it could be possible... no ?


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

This is just people trying desperately to find ways to make Hinata relevant. She's not immune to the infinite tsukuyomi she got trapped just like everyone else. The only ones that we've seen to be probably immune or just didn't get caught are Ten-Ten and Bee (I'm talking about living beings). Ten-Ten hasn't been caught yet and Bee we don't really know because we never saw his eyes to confirm if the infinite tsukuyomi works on him or not.

Yup, just like all the hyuuga would have to be immune/partially immune  , that's grasping for straws to make her somewhat relevant as you said.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

 
Sarutobi is not affected. He's an edo tensei. Maybe I didn't understood what you wanted to say ?

Nobody knows what was going on until they see the moon, notably, Tobirama. This is the first time they all witnessed and it turns out it's worse than they can imagine. Remember how I said everyone will be sleeping and by that I mean their body will just lay on the ground? Well I was wrong, it's worse. Everyone was still awake. The problem is they can't move at all. When I mentioned Sarutobi, he didn't understand what's going on because everyone is just standing still. Turns out they all can't move at all yet still conscious. That's what I mean.

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:00 PM

 

No I said "partly" immune.

She is able to think, and since we don't see anyone else thinking, it could be possible... no ?

What do you mean by "partly immune"? She has the rinnegan eyes like all the others and she's trapped by the branch like all the others. So what could be that "immune" be? Just thinking? What could she do that others couldn't do. She's at the same sate as all the others trapped people. So no, she's not immune at all, it was just her last thoughts we heard. 


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:01 PM

 

No I said "partly" immune.

She is able to think, and since we don't see anyone else thinking, it could be possible... no ?

No. It's just Kishimoto using her again, to show us that they can't move anymore and to throw a bone to the NH fanbase.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:03 PM

What do you mean by "partly immune"? She has the rinnegan eyes like all the others and she's trapped by the branch like all the others. So what could be that "immune" be? Just thinking? What could she do that others couldn't do. She's at the same sate as all the others trapped people. So no, she's not immune at all, it was just her last thoughts we heard. 

 

Well I thought like that at first, just like you.

But after seeing everyone on other forums crying about poor Hinata that was trapped concious, and that she was the only one capable of thinking, then I tried to think about it.

I know most of those fans may just grasp for air to give Hinata big relevance, but, it could be possible that she will not dream maybe.

 

 

 

No. It's just Kishimoto using her again, to show us that they can't move anymore and to throw a bone to the NH fanbase.

 

Well maybe.

I just felt like I was missing something while reading this on the other forums, so I tried to think about it.

 

I guess Kishi would have made it more clear if she were partly immune.

So the fans are just inventing things again.

Because when I first read, It seemed to me that Hinata was just like anyone else.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:08 PM

 

Well I thought like that at first, just like you.

But after seeing everyone on other forums crying about poor Hinata that was trapped concious, and that she was the only one capable of thinking, then I tried to think about it.

I know most of those fans may just grasp for air to give Hinata big relevance, but, it could be possible that she will not dream maybe.

 

 

 

 

Well maybe.

I just felt like I was missing something while reading this on the other forums, so I tried to think about it.

And where did your thinking lead you to? I'd like to read it ^_^

But again, even if this immune thing was true, I repeat my question: What could she do, she's at the same state as the others, that's to say, rinnegan eyes and trapped in the branch. Do you expect her to gain some super strengh that makes her able to break her prisonner state and go help Team 7 and Edo Kage?


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:11 PM

What? Did my list scared them? But seriously, it's overthinking. I already explained.

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:13 PM

Well maybe.

I just felt like I was missing something while reading this on the other forums, so I tried to think about it.

 

I guess Kishi would have made it more clear if she were partly immune.

So the fans are just inventing things again.

Because when I first read, It seemed to me that Hinata was just like anyone else.

It's people trying to keep their favorite character relevant. And I don't blame them, it's normal.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:22 PM

And where did your thinking lead you to? I'd like to read it ^_^

But again, even if this immune thing was true, I repeat my question: What could she do, she's at the same state as the others, that's to say, rinnegan eyes and trapped in the branch. Do you expect her to gain some super strengh that makes her able to break her prisonner state and go help Team 7 and Edo Kage?

 

Ah I saw it on narutobase, and also on tumblr

I don't expect her doing something like that at all.

I was just asking myself if byakugan users coud be partly immune ^^

 

Well it will be fun when Naruto will say that he has to save EVERYONE.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:26 PM

Mint berry crunch! That's what Hinata will do.

So, what these Hokages?

Hashirama: I will do nothing. Still got this up my a-

Tobirama: I will keep wondering why the hell I'm not possessed as well as thinking, "So glad I'm dead...technically...to see this."

Sarutobi: I will probably think of going to the battlefield, just have to be careful of getting headshot.

Minato: I will drop a nuke...on pairing war once again.

Seriously, what's going to happen next...

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

 

Ah I saw it on narutobase, and also on tumblr

I don't expect her doing something like that at all.

I was just asking myself if byakugan users coud be partly immune ^^

 

Well it will be fun when Naruto will say that he has to save EVERYONE.

I meant what do you think about the immune thing. You said seeing people talking about this possibility makes you think, so I wonder what you think about it.

 

And again, it doesn't answer my question, you keep saying she could be partly immune, but what would be the purpose if she doesn't do anything, she's blocked by the branch, so if she can't escape, what could she do? I really see no point in making her partly immune. That makes no sense. really, don't think too much about it, like Nostradamus said it's just hardcore Hinata fans who absolutely want to make her relevant, when she's not. They are happy about their interpretation of the chapter, but at the same time they are affraid because their precious princess is out of the picture for who knows how many chapters. 


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