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#601 shisui

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:55 AM

 Helena, hardly she will fight back... Sakura is the most human character of the series, I doubt she'll be able to do something big as Naruto and Sasuke does. Even Kakashi is a total failure. The sensei of team 7 only appears to downplay himself, the only time Kakashi shined was against Zabuza, wich he had a bad time to defeat...

If Sakura falls in the genjutsu world, probably we'll see her interacting with a atentious Sasuke like in RTN movie. It's already rooted in her character, she is fated to have feelings for Sasuke. It's on her deepest emotions, the Mugen Tsukuyomi world just represents one's truest and dearest wishes.

 

I don't know if you guys remember this, but this was the reason Naruto realized for why he loves her so much. As Naruto does, Sakura just want to be accepted and recognized by someone she appreciates. Sasuke will recognize Sakura, it's fated, Kishimoto will write it, probably by the end of this arc. But I also don't believe there will be more than it. He'll just recognize her as he did when he abandoned the village. This emotion for Sasuke is a HUGE HOLE in Sakura's character and it HAS to be fulfilled. The same goes for Hinata, Kishimoto owns her an closure. I believe that only one couple will be officialized in the end, but I don't think that the rest of them will be just left forgotten without any story to tell. This situation that Sakura is in can be interpreted in two ways: Or Kishimoto is preparing the scene that will give her love for Sasuke a "case closed" status, or he is really making her get over her feelings for him painfully and butthurted, what just KILLS her purpose as character. Sakura can mature, she's a sensive and rational girl. She'll not change for real by getting hurt, after all, the story shows us every time that no hurt can undone someone's feelings. Also, if she doesn't think about her feelings for Sasuke with her heart clean, there's no way for her to love Naruto forsooth. She have to put them on a balance and think who's really make her feel more happy and confortable. She have to consider this rationally. Or else, she failed her point as a character (or Kishimoto failed her).

But well, this is me reading the story expecting Kishimoto to fulfill his job as a writer. I believe that he knows what he's doing. And I have a little perspective of it.

It comes from Kishimoto's writing style this thing of unilateral undying pure passion. Did you notice that almost all of his characters doesn't have a healthy love life? The only ones who truly had (Minato & Kushina and Yahiko & Konan) died tragically. It comes alot from his personal life. This karma relationship between Naruto and Sakura (and several characters), taking reference from a radio interview on Japan with Kishimoto and his wife, came from his own love life. When Kishimoto was a teenager, he entered in a baseball group in his school (what inspired him to write BENCH, wich was a failure and refused by all editors he presented the first oneshot for being "too heavy for young boys", the shonen genre). He was in love with a girl who was in love with the team's capitain who didn't cared for anyone. Apparently nothing have gone right for any of them (or she have started to date the capitain), he got transfered and never saw the girl anymore... Then, 3 years later he and this girl reunited at college and started to know each other very well. She was single at that time, but nowadays this girl is his wife. Only a few people know about this interview, I just have this information because a friend of mine who lived in Japan and heared the whole interview. As there's no way of how to prove it, being an extra-official interview non relationated with JUMP's productions, it's not well spoken. But, well, if it's true, you can start to understand why Kishimoto puts his characters in such heavy love karma. Well, almost all writers do reflect things of their personal lifes on their stories, so it's understandable. If he have empathy for all of them, it's certain that they'll have an nice conclusion.

I really wrote this too fast, I don't have time to revise it... Do you want me to reply you in brbr huehue? Se quiser, eu posso. Escrevo bem melhor em minha língua materna do que em inglês... 

 

It's good to see people that have the same views as me. It's good that nobody labelled you as a troll.

 

I had no idea that his wife had anything to do with Sakura. Do we have physical proof of the roots of this relationship? I find it strange that we never heard of it before.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 12:17 PM

Do you think we will just get what 646 did or will we go straight to the new world? It could happen either way. What I mean about 646 is that the preparation began but we managed to see everyone (well mostly) reaction to the awakening of the tree. That said are we going to get reactions from everyone that the moon has changed and it's ready to take everyone down? Not sure but let's see if this plan does go through.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 12:35 PM

 

It's good to see people that have the same views as me. It's good that nobody labelled you as a troll.

 

I had no idea that his wife had anything to do with Sakura. Do we have physical proof of the roots of this relationship? I find it strange that we never heard of it before.

Don't know if who knows about this interview doesn't mention it afraid to be labelled as a troll (or the reason you mean is other?). After all, it was broadcasted in a radio and I really can't prove it. There's other member in this forum who came from the same other forum as I that knows about this too, we had the same friend who told us this. This is just like the info about Oda telling the similarities between Sakura and Kishimoto's wife. Only a few interested fans knows about this, it's just this info about Kishimoto personal life will be really difficult to find, because it isn't official. I don't have reasons to doubt this friend of mine as he delivered others trustful informations to us in that other forum, like the spoilers from RTN movie and other interviews from JUMP events. But the best thing to do is just hold this information and don't use it as a argument. I would also like to remember that this friend of mine didn't said anything about Sakura being inspired by Kishimoto's wife. The info he delivered was very impartial and was just about Kishimoto's (and others mangakas) family life. 

 

But well, I don't regret sharing this. Just don't go thinking this is one sword to use in the pairing war, because it isn't! 



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 12:36 PM

So it seems that we finally know Sasuke's thoughts. Check it out:

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Oh boy.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 12:39 PM

Well that got me awake for the morning. Lol.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 12:53 PM

^^ LOL Again with the restoring clan ,when will they learn that it was about restoring the clan's HONOR  not making babies  :facepalm:


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 01:00 PM

Don't know if who knows about this interview doesn't mention it afraid to be labelled as a troll (or the reason you mean is other?). After all, it was broadcasted in a radio and I really can't prove it. There's other member in this forum who came from the same other forum as I that knows about this too, we had the same friend who told us this. This is just like the info about Oda telling the similarities between Sakura and Kishimoto's wife. Only a few interested fans knows about this, it's just this info about Kishimoto personal life will be really difficult to find, because it isn't official. I don't have reasons to doubt this friend of mine as he delivered others trustful informations to us in that other forum, like the spoilers from RTN movie and other interviews from JUMP events. But the best thing to do is just hold this information and don't use it as a argument. I would also like to remember that this friend of mine didn't said anything about Sakura being inspired by Kishimoto's wife. The info he delivered was very impartial and was just about Kishimoto's (and others mangakas) family life. 

 

But well, I don't regret sharing this. Just don't go thinking this is one sword to use in the pairing war, because it isn't! 

 

I see. It's a pity we cannot confirm it. I remember Oda saying Kishimoto's wife was like Sakura was true however.

 

 

So it seems that we finally know Sasuke's thoughts. Check it out:

Oh boy.

Why are you posting pro-fanart? Are you going to post all SS pro-fanart for us to discuss?


Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 15 May 2014 - 01:01 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 01:15 PM

First of all, not a pro. More like a parody of pro. Second, it's only one time and can't really continue to post unless said otherwise. It can upset the mods. So for once, it's ok, so long you have something to back it up. It was much worse back in 631. We had a "We are the champion" song playing, Hitler's reaction, and so forth.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 01:15 PM

^^ LOL Again with the restoring clan ,when will they learn that it was about restoring the clan's HONOR  not making babies  :facepalm:

It's kinda funny to hear "I want to restore my clan making babies" from a 12 years old boy. It's like... Do he even know how to do it? 

 

And I could say that not only one ordinary woman and one Uchiha man would be enough to restore the whole clan! Unless their children mate themselves... And then maybe Sasuke's grandchildren will be born with some kind of genetic-disorder-special-sharingan! Maybe a Sharingan with three pupils! Or with a lightning horn!

Oh god, this sounds awesome, from now on I ship it.  :fu:

 

But I'm kidding, their children could meet other people and make new uchihas from them and slowly restore the clan. I just wonder if the blood line could be lost this way. More funny enough, Sasuke haven't showed any interest in doing this at any time. His issue is more with his ego and pride than his sense of existence. People underestand what they want to understand, so I'm out of this discussion!  :wave:



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 01:37 PM

It's kinda funny to hear "I want to restore my clan making babies" from a 12 years old boy. It's like... Do he even know how to do it? 
 
And I could say that not only one ordinary woman and one Uchiha man would be enough to restore the whole clan! Unless their children mate themselves... And then maybe Sasuke's grandchildren will be born with some kind of genetic-disorder-special-sharingan! Maybe a Sharingan with three pupils! Or with a lightning horn!
Oh god, this sounds awesome, from now on I ship it.  :fu:
 
But I'm kidding, their children could meet other people and make new uchihas from them and slowly restore the clan. I just wonder if the blood line could be lost this way. More funny enough, Sasuke haven't showed any interest in doing this at any time. His issue is more with his ego and pride than his sense of existence. People underestand what they want to understand, so I'm out of this discussion!  :wave:

Even the twelve years old these days are quite smart *gives a devilish smile* XD.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:00 PM

Why are you posting pro-fanart? Are you going to post all SS pro-fanart for us to discuss?

Because like NaruSaku4Life3g said it's not really a pro, it's more a parody of a pro. And if the moderators have a problem with me posting that, they can tell me and I will stop. And no I'm not going to post all the SS fanart here. 


Edited by Nostradamus, 15 May 2014 - 02:20 PM.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:20 PM

So apparently theres another theory some people have taken and think that because madara is launching the infinite genjutsu that Hinata will pull something simply because of her possibly being unconscious or having the bygakugan, I really have no idea what to expect as she is the most unpredictable and highly infrequent character I can think of.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:24 PM

You know, Despite all the criticism, and bashing, Sakura has received  this chapter, I think she showed a huge amount of bravely. I mean back in chapter 665 (666 i think), She was scared kittenless, said things like, Madara on a whole different level. and yet here she is now, fighting against one of the most overpower antagonists in the narutoverse.

 

Yes, I agree. I understand where people are coming from with their criticism of Sakura acting recklessly, but I loved that Sakura was determined to fight despite her fear. It's clear Madara terrifies her -- understandable considering he's basically a god incarnate -- but Sakura didn't want her fear to hold her back. It showed a lot of fortitude on her part. Although I didn't like that she ended up needing to be saved again, even if my inner NaruSaku shipper liked seeing Naruto with his arms wrapped around her. :excited: I'm just hoping Sakura will still get to contribute in future chapters and that one shot attack won't be it for her.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:28 PM

So apparently theres another theory some people have taken and think that because madara is launching the infinite genjutsu that Hinata will pull something simply because of her possibly being unconscious or having the bygakugan, I really have no idea what to expect as she is the most unpredictable and highly infrequent character I can think of.

Oh for God's sake. Kaguya having the Byakugan was because Kishimoto wanted to cover his ass. In part 1 he mentioned the Byakugan was the strongest of the eyes techniques or the original one or something like that. Basically he said the Byakugan was better than the Sharingan. However we've seen that's not really the case.

Seriously when are people going to understand the Byakugan is nothing compared to the Sharingan and Rinnegan.

Don't take this comment as a comment against you. It's a comment against the people who think that the Hyuugas and their Byakugan is the strongest thing out there.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:33 PM

So apparently theres another theory some people have taken and think that because madara is launching the infinite genjutsu that Hinata will pull something simply because of her possibly being unconscious or having the bygakugan, I really have no idea what to expect as she is the most unpredictable and highly infrequent character I can think of.

I don't think Kishi is gonna give Hinata a pivotal role now that it feels like this series is reaching it's peak. I don't think that her closure ended with a humiliating face plant, but I don't think it'll be as important as some fans make it out to be. She's a side character after all.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

I don't think Kishi is gonna give Hinata a pivotal role now that it feels like this series is reaching it's peak. I don't think that her closure ended with a humiliating face plant, but I don't think it'll be as important as some fans make it out to be. She's a side character after all.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 03:11 PM

You know, the funny thing is it could have work if Madara wasn't in full form. I mean they only fought one shadow before, so if it was still like this, one can attack the shadow and the other can actually aim for Madara for damage. But surprise, surprise, he can do 4 now, which is like "Good god, now he's too strong."

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 03:13 PM

It would suck if next week, half the chapter shows everyone, whose been missing, reactions to Madara. Then the other 40% show Naruto and Sasuke trying, and failing, to stop him, and finally him activating the eternal genjutsu. That would feel even worse than this chapter.( I don't mean the chapter was horrible, it just felt pretty short.)


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 03:14 PM

Since his fight against Naruto, Gaara and Oniki this Madara guy just gotten power up after power up.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 03:18 PM

It would suck if next week, half the chapter shows everyone, whose been missing, reactions to Madara. Then the other 40% show Naruto and Sasuke trying, and failing, to stop him, and finally him activating the eternal genjutsu. That would feel even worse than this chapter.( I don't mean the chapter was horrible, it just felt pretty short.)

The possibility is there, who knows. It's worth mentioning that the next chapter is the 9th chapter, which is oddly similar to 646. I don't know if Kishi would do more chapters for the volume again, but so far, if they go to genjutsu, I could see the volume ending with them inside of it.

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