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[TouKen4Life3g]

Ahem



I know it's not exactly the same, but still.... it isn't too far off neither.

True, but I saw the last arc as passing the torch. Surprising because a lot of people thought there will be more to it, but sadly, nothing good come out of it. And not just romance department.

[Beastbomb]

Anybody think that Sauske may help defeat Madara just to take over his role in the Moon's Eye plan. Sasuke may want to use the infinite tsukuyomi in order to asloe bring a world of peace where he is living with his clan and brother again. Maybe he gains Rinnegan in order to control the juubi and such. Just curious for opinions. Maybe a parrallel between Sasuke/Naruto and Hashirama/Madara?

Edited by Beastbomb, 11 April 2013 - 08:23 PM.

[Dkey]

Anybody think that Sauske may help defeat Madara just to take over his role in the Moon's Eye plan. Sasuke may want to use the infinite tsukuyomi in order to asloe bring a world of peace where he is living with his clan and brother again. Maybe he gains Rinnegan in order to control the juubi and such. Just curious for opinions. Maybe a parrallel between Sasuke/Naruto and Hashirama/Madara?

Well it kinda fits.


Naruto vs. Sasuke parallels

Obito vs. Kakashi

Hashirama vs. Madara


And Senju vs. Uchiha ancestors

Also Orochimaru is still interested in Sasuke's not just sharingan but probably also his skills so if Sasuke gets the Rinnegan he would be even more powerful.

[FoolishYoungling]

No chapter next week....

[TouKen4Life3g]

Anybody think that Sauske may help defeat Madara just to take over his role in the Moon's Eye plan. Sasuke may want to use the infinite tsukuyomi in order to asloe bring a world of peace where he is living with his clan and brother again. Maybe he gains Rinnegan in order to control the juubi and such. Just curious for opinions. Maybe a parrallel between Sasuke/Naruto and Hashirama/Madara?

This is possible. He may use it in a limited way like only on people rather than all of the world. If that's possible, then yes, Sasuke can go this route. Again, not convinced that he's all good, just want to get one enemy out since he's well on the way to conquer the world.

[Beastbomb]

This is possible. He may use it in a limited way like only on people rather than all of the world. If that's possible, then yes, Sasuke can go this route. Again, not convinced that he's all good, just want to get one enemy out since he's well on the way to conquer the world.

Hopes so. This last chapter had me blowing steam today in school. Didn't help that i had a headache from my baseball game before i read the chapter last night either. I was in more of a rage then than I am now.

[narusakurama]

No chapter next week....

Yea , and funny coincidence , but the release of the next 2 feature chapter is on the same day with the official release of RtN on DVD ....

[Beastbomb]

Yea , and funny coincidence , but the release of the next 2 feature chapter is on the same day with the official release of RtN on DVD ....

Is it going to be dubbed, i've heard that it would take at least another year before the movie is actually dubbed.

[Derock]

Is it going to be dubbed, i've heard that it would take at least another year before the movie is actually dubbed.

No, it's going to take more than a year for the movie to reach in the US shores. We don't have Shippuden Movie 4 out here yet.

[Shadow1275]

Is it going to be dubbed, i've heard that it would take at least another year before the movie is actually dubbed.

Allow me to sum up how I feel this chapter affected Years of Development between Naruto and Sasuke and Karin's Character



Sigh, and its going to be a loooong two weeks. Oh well

[MangaReader]

Honestly, I think were blowing this out of proportion....again

I mean come on guys, what if Sasuke and Orochimaru both reveal to us that they have hidden motives. I wouldn't be shocked if Sasuke still wants to destroy the Leaf, but do it his way instead of taking the easy way out like Obito and Madara

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Honestly, I think were blowing this out of proportion....again

I mean come on guys, what if Sasuke and Orochimaru both reveal to us that they have hidden motives. I wouldn't be shocked if Sasuke still wants to destroy the Leaf, but do it his way instead of taking the easy way out like Obito and Madara

I dont think Sasuke wants to destroy the leaf also Sasuke didnt hear the other side of the story, Madara and Obito.

[MangaReader]

I dont think Sasuke wants to destroy the leaf also Sasuke didnt hear the other side of the story, Madara and Obito.

I normally have a hunch for these types of things... Sasuke is clearly hiding something though.

[Phantom_999]

One...two....three...four....five...six......oh screw it, at least half of us care about Karin right? XDD

Yes. I like Karin. I care about her a bit, but again, she is like Hinata, so can't say I love her. For the same reasons I like but don't love Hinata. Single mindedly devoted to JUST ONE character. Now, not saying its a bad thing, just that kind of mindset does not interest me much.

Because her backstory as to why she liked Sasuke was pretty good, and her having to deal with his descent into madness made me give a kitten about her while she was laying there dying. Then we got a glimpse of her here and there, and I started to really like her.

Then Kishimoto goes and does this.

I liked her because Kishimoto led me to believe that there was more to her than a sensor who had a crush on Sasuke. That she had independence. That she knew to call bullsh** out when she saw it.

Then Kishimoto goes and does THIS.

That makes two of us, my friend.

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 April 2013 - 12:30 AM.

[Beastbomb]

I dont think Sasuke wants to destroy the leaf also Sasuke didnt hear the other side of the story, Madara and Obito.

Maybe Madara tells him something that changes his mind yet again, who knows. Just have to wait for the next chapter....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Maybe Madara tells him something that changes his mind yet again, who knows. Just have to wait for the next chapter....

I know that Sasuke really loves his brother but what about the world, after all, after this war the alliance will be broken, foreshadowing what Obito said, also the whole peace premisse Naruto wont be the guy who bought peace, there's a lot of incosistences i prefer to wait.

Naruto will not be the one who saved Sasuke and also will not be the one who bought peace to the world.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 April 2013 - 12:35 AM.

[Beastbomb]

I know that Sasuke really loves his brother but what about the world, after all, after this war the alliance will be broken, foreshadowing what Obito said, also the whole peace premisse Naruto wont be the guy who bought peace, there's a lot of incosistences i prefer to wait.

Naruto will not be the one who saved Sasuke and also will not be the one who bought peace to the world.

plz don't tell me that you think sasuke will bring peace to the world. We've been given so much evidence that Naruto is the one to bring peace. I'm starting to form doubts after this chapter, but I hope your not right on at least that part.

Edit: Anyone else seeing that April fool's day interview becoming more and more true after every chapter. This is way to ironic to be funny anymore.

Edited by Beastbomb, 12 April 2013 - 12:45 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

plz don't tell me that you think sasuke will bring peace to the world. We've been given so much evidence that Naruto is the one to bring peace. I'm starting to form doubts after this chapter, but I hope your not right on at least that part.

I said it's inconsistence if those things i stated didnt happened.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 April 2013 - 12:45 AM.

[Beastbomb]

I said it's inconsistence if those things i stated didnt happened.

then why the hell haven't we focused on Sasuke for most of part 2. This is the one time where I hope Kishi actually keeps the manga inconsistent if what you say becomes true.

[James S Cassidy]

I am not certain about that either, but we all have to wait and see. As of now, I see it as "Enemy of my enemy is my friend."

As for NaLu, granted that I do like it, it's more of the easy route, so I don't ship it hard as this one, because again, you see it coming. For NaruSaku, whether you saw it coming or not, I think it's the backstory that makes me like it a lot as well as how gentleman Naruto can be, which I actually was inspired to do so. Not to mention how fun they are and the chemistry is really good. I guess people rather have a simple one route direction from a heroine/love interest than something like this. While that's good, for me, I like to feel challenged. I just hope he doesn't go too awkward and confusing to follow. So yeah, best to say, to each of their own.

My biggest problem with manga of any kind is when we have these...romantic themes in it that go nowhere. I hate when something gets wasted that much when so much effort was put into it. I hate when some mangaka put these possibilities in and then go about saying "Just kidding."

I hate wasted/pointless development. I hate it so much and I know a few manga that do this. Although many will disagree with me.

But that's the way it happens in real life abusive relationships sometimes, too. The women will run to a shelter, to the police or to a friend, but then they end up going back for whatever reason. I'm not saying it makes sense or it's easy to understand, I'm just saying it happens.

And honestly, I never believed Karin was done with Sasuke. Anything is possible -- and she could end up double-crossing or betraying him yet -- but the fact that she so emphatically stated that she was over Sasuke made me think she really wasn't. IDK. We'll see.

Again, there is no process to that. I mean, you say you've always known this since the beginning because you found her to be messed up in the head. If that was the intention, Kishi could have tried a LITTLE harder to show this. I have seen crazy girls in other manga like Yumi who exhibit the behavior. So when she sides with the bad guy, you can see why. Here Karin has been shown to be clear of mind. Infatuation alone does not make a crazy person. Otherwise might as well say Hinata is messed up in the head as well.

I can't say she is abused because she doesn't act like an abused woman nor has Sasuke ever really abused her before he stabbed her. And besides, abused woman do not go back to the man they love because they actually love them. They go back because it is a psychological reasoning that the guy puts into them that they were wrong, not him. Too much Law and Order SVU.

Karin is not going back out of fear, but infatuation. That's why she is not an abused girl. Masochist maybe, but not abused. Which is sad.

These characters are literally flipping characteristics on a coin-flip. No, seriously, I can see Kishi at his desk with a coin sitting there saying: "Okay. Heads Karin goes back with Sasuke....tails she does something else." *flips coin* "Heads...she goes back to Sasuke." And then give this shallow reason behind it. People say there might be a plot twist, but I think both me and you know this will not be the case. If there is I will be surprised.

Okay, while I understand Naruto is not a harem, we don't have any solid pairing development or we have characters where the development is there and Kishi refuses to follow through. So we have girls who are looking stupid. We have girls who are pathetically infatuated to the point of being shallow in their character development. We have boys who are oblivious to the obvious and boys who show no interest whatever, but girls crave for him anyway for no reason at all or worse when we have tons of reasons not to.

Like I said, the potential is there, but Kishi just refuses to do anything with it. I am with Slextrem on this one where Kishi has literally abused his females so much that the entire fanbase has seen then as nothing more than pairing fodder. No one cares about Hinata's or Sakura's (except maybe us) or even Karin's development....all they care is "Who are they gonna end up with?" Maybe this is why I took off my shipping goggles after 615.

Sakura was the last girl to even have this huge moment of development that was a lead character. She was shown to be self-reliant and has the capability to rely on her own strength, but again he refuses to do anything with this for one reason or another. I know people are telling me to wait and see what happens, but I am slowly losing faith by with each chapter. Not in pairings, but his own writing style. If he doesn't do something soon that is interesting to show how much of a good writer he used to be, then I find myself disappointed.

Oh and just to put this out there, if he does have Sakura go back to being infatuated with Sasuke....then he loses all credibility as a writer with me.

Because her backstory as to why she liked Sasuke was pretty good, and her having to deal with his descent into madness made me give a kitten about her while she was laying there dying. Then we got a glimpse of her here and there, and I started to really like her.

Then Kishimoto goes and does this.

I liked her because Kishimoto led me to believe that there was more to her than a sensor who had a crush on Sasuke. That she had independence. That she knew to call bullsh** out when she saw it.

Then Kishimoto goes and does THIS.

OFT. I also have the same thing with Hinata. I think Hinata is going down this path that makes her seem more than meets the eyes to the point that I might have been wrong. I was happy to be wrong, because I wanted to see her grow up a little. Show her more than just a pairing fodder. She doesn't have to give up her love, but I want her to open her eyes to the world around her. Make her realize that there is more than Naruto in her life....then Kishimoto goes and does chapter 615.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 12 April 2013 - 01:02 AM.