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[Dragunov]

I'm torn between amusement at the NaruHina desperation. Not even that long ago(a week or two maybe), I edited both the Sakura relationship and Hinata relationship. On Hinata, I put "It was one-sided throughout the story, in Part 1 put that he felt the need to prove Neji wrong about failures, not just Hinata", and that the "I like people like you line" meant he was glad she was being so nice. Guess what? All that got erased .

On Sakura's, I put "Sakura and Naruto grow closer in Part 2, Sakura developing feelings of empathy towards his life as a Jinchuriki, protective of Naruto, seeing him as "a fond friend". I also put Naruto desire to always protect was seen during his fight with Gaara in Part 1 and Yamato picked up on it." Sai NEVER assumed anything, I put "indicate". And since the NaruHina paragragh has filler, I added episode 235 in Sakura's paragraph just to make it fair. You're never gonna believe it: All that got erased too .

I was trying very hard not to be biased. Hell, I even kept the" Sakura doesn't reciprocate his feelings" for the NaruHina fan's pride. I was being generous. Why can't they do the same?

How does anything in what I put hold bias? . I'm terribly confused . I'm seriously tempted to edit that whole page on Sakura's part with chapter links, just so I have absolute proof(notice all the links the Hinata one has?).

They are trying too hard if it's longer than Sasuke's, Naruto's most important bond. Really, NaruHina fans/SasuSaku ? Do you have no dignity? Can't they at least try and be civilized people?

Well......throw away any hope you had in the wiki. Its a waste of time trying to change it; some people just dont want to see whats in front of them, and they galvanize what isnt.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Well......throw away any hope you had in the wiki. Its a waste of time trying to change it; some people just dont want to see whats in front of them, and they galvanize what isnt.

True . I edited it again out of annoyance at the NaruHina biasness on that page(I think I may do that ever once and while but not all the time). Summed it up quite well if you look at it right now before it gets erased(no doubt it will). I know it's pointless but I can't help myself. I just can't believe that NaruHina and SasuSaku are diehards they can't admit what's right in front of them, and on a wiki no less. Makes me really lose faith in the shippers nowadays. Even if NaruSaku was not likely, I wouldn't distort facts just because you don't like it. It's really pathetic IMO.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 28 April 2012 - 06:06 AM.

[Forlong]

I was trying very hard not to be biased. Hell, I even kept the" Sakura doesn't reciprocate his feelings" for the NaruHina fan's pride. I was being generous. Why can't they do the same?

Because they are desperate. They will deny anything, believe any character will be completely OOC; it does matter as long as they get their OPT.

I find it embarrassing that anyone is so invested in two figments of Kishimoto's imagination getting together. That's why I abandoned so many Naruto based forums. The willfully ignorant kept spouting nonsense and denying the blatantly obvious.

[TerrorKing]

Because they are desperate. They will deny anything, believe any character will be completely OOC; it does matter as long as they get their OPT.

I find it embarrassing that anyone is so invested in two figments of Kishimoto's imagination getting together. That's why I abandoned so many Naruto based forums. The willfully ignorant kept spouting nonsense and denying the blatantly obvious.

Even though I've been a Naruto fan for almost four years now, this is actually the only forum that I have ever been a member of. I only took a few scant looks at some of the general forums and quickly decided that they weren't for me....especially since not only am I a Sakura fan, I'm also a NaruSaku fan.

Edited by TerrorKing, 28 April 2012 - 04:03 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Ok...I'm confused. I've been reading through some of the other threads and some of you have said NS is confirmed. Has it really been confirmed or is it wishfull thinking?

[Nate River]

Ok...I'm confused. I've been reading through some of the other threads and some of you have said NS is confirmed. Has it really been confirmed or is it wishfull thinking?

Officially confirmed? No.

But I think it's not fair to call it wishful thinking either.

[Don-kun]

This is how I feel about the OTP.

For some of them, NaruSaku is the worses pairing and NaruSaku fans are in denial, honestly I think NS is the most annoying pairing for NHher and SS, because it's more obvious than there own pairing, so they need to constantly attack the NS in every forums to make themself believe that NH and SS has more chances.
I honestly smell fear and desperation, some up them even call Naruto an id*ot or ungrateful, because Hinata risk her life for him and there is no sign of him haven any romantic feelings for her, nothing at all.

For some of them the best way force the pairing they like is by attacking NaruSaku fans, with Naruto doesn't love Sakura animore, why? because Naruto still loving Sakura means that NH make no sense, and the Sakura will never stop loving Sasuke no matter what, because Sakura haven feeling for Naruto means that the (SS vertion of DIE HARD the Bruce Willis movie) will finaly dead again.

We NSFans knows that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke and we accept that, Why is so hard for the others to see that Sakura has more than a friends relationship with Naruto and Naruto still like Sakura until Kishi assert that he doesn't like her anymore.

We see when each party (Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke) find out about the next person feelings.

Sakura become more close to Naruto with so many hint about her haven more than a frienship feeling for him.

Naruto didn't change his view on Hinata still sees her as a comrade with zero romantic hint, plus he already appreciate her sacrifice, just like when Sakura appreciate Lee's sacrifice, but for them Naruto have to return Hinata's feelings or else he will be a heartless bastard.

Sasuke try to kill Sakura on several occasions and wants to kill her after he kills naruto.

But NaruSaku is the worse pairing. How is that really possible?

[Dalton.T.R]

Officially confirmed? No.

But I think it's not fair to call it wishful thinking either.

Honestly I'm starting to think there won't be any pairing...then again I've lost almost all my interest in Naruto. So...neh.

I said wishfull thinking because I didn't know what else to say at the time

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Because they are desperate. They will deny anything, believe any character will be completely OOC; it does matter as long as they get their OPT.

I find it embarrassing that anyone is so invested in two figments of Kishimoto's imagination getting together. That's why I abandoned so many Naruto based forums. The willfully ignorant kept spouting nonsense and denying the blatantly obvious.

They are so desperate it's ridiculous. I get pretty invested in pairings myself when I like a show or something, but I'm not ignorant to the truth or when my pairing seems unlikely(It's happend to me before).
If I dislike something, I'm not going to deny its merit. Which is why I find it so sad and pathetic that certain people let their pairing preference cloud and distort the facts, like on Narutopedia for example. It's like they do that to feel better about their pairing when more than half of what they put are just lies. Definitely shows signs of maturity .

Let the NaruHina and SasuSaku fans be ignorant all they want. There just going to be disappointed.

[Nate River]

I don't like where this thread is drifting.

This thread is about debating arguments and their merits, not complaining about opposing fandoms and calling them names.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I don't like where this thread is drifting.

This thread is about debating arguments and their merits, not complaining about opposing fandoms and calling them names.

Sorry. It will stop immediately.

[ninja_salamander]

Hey guys I am a very big NS fan and want that pairing to happen very badly because I can't compare how much naruto's selfless love towards sakura is to anything. But I am seeing that kishi is trying to take back most of the hints he gave that sakura is developing romantic feelings for naruto. I just hope you guys can help me giving not so biased answers(just saying this because I know I am in narusaku thread and their are chances you guys give bias answers, so please try not to give biased answers).

1) When first I got punched for liking my pairing was when sakura called naruto an idiot for falling in love with her. It really seemed that she can never reciprocate his feelings.

2) when sakura did the confession it seemed real but then naruto saod he knew her better than that and told her that she was lying, not only this during her confession yamato made a shocked face which I think was to take back the hint he gave at the bridge where yamato might have said sakura loved naruto.

3) then when sai explained naruto that she was going to kill sasuke he said sakura loves sasuke 3 times and naruto thought of it 2 times total 5 times which really mean something in shonen manga. It totally means that sakura still loves sasuke and it seems that she still does not love naruto even if she cares for him very much. I think kishi did that intentionally to get NS in very low state so that he can make it not happen in the end even after so much of development it got. At least I being a huge NS supporter don't want NS to happen until sakura's feelings are pure love towards Naruto.

4) Then their was chapter 540 where she thinks of sasuke as the person she loves, meaning she will never love naruto??

5) I agree their was chapter 573 where sakura is hinking of naruto but it was an anti-romance NS moment again(in terms of being canon), because she seemed to be thinking of naruto only as friend and nothing more. I was so happy when I saw she said we are going to be together no matter what you say and then she ruined the so far romantic NS moment by saying not only her but everyone.

These things seems to be going against NS and all the development NS had very badly. I totally know this pairing should happen because it has got very much development, but development of NS seems to be only in friendship manner to me now until their is some real romantic NS moment from sakura that is.

I also very well know that naruto loves sakura very much and that won't and shouldn't change but NS won't/should not happen until sakura shows real romantic feelings for naruto. Atleast I can't see it happening when sakura's feelings for naruto aren't pure. I don't want to see naruto becoming a second choice.

I hope you guys can help me with getting to think why NS still can happen. I don't think NH has any chances of happening but I do start thinking that SS still have some chances even if not as much as NS. That is because when sasuke becomes good and sakura asks him why he tried to kill her I can imagine a scenario where kishi makes sasuke say that he devloped bond with her as well and wanted to finish that bond as well, although this is also highly unlikely. I am really starting to think that if sakura's romantic feelings towards sasuke are still being kept then NS also won't be a sensible pairing until kishi has thought of something to make it completely sensible in some way.

Edited by ninja_salamander, 29 April 2012 - 11:48 AM.

[redragon88]

How about this for a new topic:

Do you all remember that scene when Kohohamaru used the sexy jutsu on both Naruto and Sakura and got about the exact perverted reaction from both. With Naruto it was two random naked girls and with Sakura it was a naked Sasuke and Sai. It makes me wonder if that tells us something about which kind of attraction Sakura has for Sasuke, if in the end is just as superficial a thing as Naruto has for the random naked girls.

Sakura's love for Sasuke before he left Konoha was always of the lovestruck girl kind (always giving the impression that it was not something to take very seriously) but I'm pretty sure that when it comes to Naruto she would never act that way because her love for him would be more genuine and real. She wouldn't look at Naruto with heart on her eyes, she would look at him warm eyes and a kind smile. That to me is the kind of love you want to cherish forever.

Since she came to care for Sasuke just like Naruto did maybe that care combined with her superficial attraction was what made her think she was in love with him all this time. I'm pretty sure that if now a good Sasuke approached Sakura with intents to being with her then she would reject him because even if she cared for him and was attracted to him the one she truly love is Naruto. This same scenerio could be applied to Naruto if an attractive girl went to him, he could feel attracted to her but he knows the one he loves the most is Sakura so he would reject any other girl no matter how beautiful she was.

[Dragunov]

1) When first I got punched for liking my pairing

Whoa there. Thats a bit too much.

[Phantom_999]

Sure, it can. From what you say (I've never visited the site), I can always trust it to be wrong, especially anything related to shipping wars.

Ain't that the truth Kage Nate.

This is how I feel about the OTP.

For some of them, NaruSaku is the worses pairing and NaruSaku fans are in denial, honestly I think NS is the most annoying pairing for NHher and SS, because it's more obvious than there own pairing, so they need to constantly attack the NS in every forums to make themself believe that NH and SS has more chances.
I honestly smell fear and desperation, some up them even call Naruto an id*ot or ungrateful, because Hinata risk her life for him and there is no sign of him haven any romantic feelings for her, nothing at all.

For some of them the best way force the pairing they like is by attacking NaruSaku fans, with Naruto doesn't love Sakura animore, why? because Naruto still loving Sakura means that NH make no sense, and the Sakura will never stop loving Sasuke no matter what, because Sakura haven feeling for Naruto means that the (SS vertion of DIE HARD the Bruce Willis movie) will finaly dead again.

We NSFans knows that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke and we accept that, Why is so hard for the others to see that Sakura has more than a friends relationship with Naruto and Naruto still like Sakura until Kishi assert that he doesn't like her anymore.

We see when each party (Sakura, Naruto, Sasuke) find out about the next person feelings.

Sakura become more close to Naruto with so many hint about her haven more than a frienship feeling for him.

Naruto didn't change his view on Hinata still sees her as a comrade with zero romantic hint, plus he already appreciate her sacrifice, just like when Sakura appreciate Lee's sacrifice, but for them Naruto have to return Hinata's feelings or else he will be a heartless bastard.

Sasuke try to kill Sakura on several occasions and wants to kill her after he kills naruto.

But NaruSaku is the worse pairing. How is that really possible?

Forget it lets not start anything, bringing in these senseless comments only lead to uproar. Lets just drop it and let this vanish from our conscience

I don't like where this thread is drifting.

This thread is about debating arguments and their merits, not complaining about opposing fandoms and calling them names.

Eh we can't debate if there is nothing going on Kage Nate. But yes this IS a debate for NS and nothing else. Everyone, I DON'T want a repeat of what happened last time so lets forget what other fandoms are bashing about. if there is no topic we'll just leave this alone until there is okay? lets not start anything offensive here.

Edited by Phantom_999, 30 April 2012 - 02:12 AM.

[Don-kun]

Ain't that the truth Kage Nate.



Forget it lets not start anything, bringing in these senseless comments only lead to uproar. Lets just drop it and let this vanish from our conscience



Eh we can't debate if there is nothing going on Kage Nate. But yes this IS a debate for NS and nothing else. Everyone, I DON'T want a repeat of what happened last time so lets forget what other fandoms are bashing about. if there is no topic we'll just leave this alone until there is okay? lets not start anything offensive here.

I know what you mean, is only that I'm tired of double standard people bashing 469 but ok with murder attempts, the hypocrisy when Sasuke and Naruto doesn't love Sakura and Hinata, the Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore, the Sakura bashing, Sakura will never stop loving Sasuke, NaruSaku fans in denial in almost every forum or any Naruto related place I go.

Please excuse the fact that I express my frustration here.

[Jake]

Since we don't have much to actually debate at the moment so I thought up a topic to talk about till we do.

How do you think Sakura's reaction would be after finding out Naruto is the Fourth's Son?


P.S. I'd also like to know what you think about my sig.

[ciardha]

Since we don't have much to actually debate at the moment so I thought up a topic to talk about till we do.

How do you think Sakura's reaction would be after finding out Naruto is the Fourth's Son?

Looks like we'll find out when Road to Ninja comes out in July since Kishimoto is doing the story.

But, in my opinion, she'll probably first smack herself on the head in an "uh duh" reaction, because the resemblance is so obvious. Then she'll remember the how Naruto became the host for the Kyuubi and realize Minato sealed the Kyuubi in his own newborn child and wonder what happened. It will remind her again of what Naruto endured as a young child and she'll react similarly to how she did when she found out Naruto was the host for the Kyuubi. There'd be a tender scene between Sakura and Naruto.

[Jake]

Looks like we'll find out when Road to Ninja comes out in July since Kishimoto is doing the story.

But, in my opinion, she'll probably first smack herself on the head in an "uh duh" reaction, because the resemblance is so obvious. Then she'll remember the how Naruto became the host for the Kyuubi and realize Minato sealed the Kyuubi in his own newborn child and wonder what happened. It will remind her again of what Naruto endured as a young child and she'll react similarly to how she did when she found out Naruto was the host for the Kyuubi. There'd be a tender scene between Sakura and Naruto.

I imaging it being more of a comedic moment starting out with a jaw drop with a few seconds a her frozen up standing still with her mouth wide open, then she smacks herself for not seeing the resemblence, and when she learn that he during Pain's invation she grabs Naruto by he shirt and starts shaking him asking why he didn't tell her sooner, of course that could bring up memories of how he transformed which will remind her of Kurama being selled inside him and pretty much lead to the same ending as yours.

[redragon88]

P.S. I'd also like to know what you think about my sig.

Damn it Tobi! That's the wrong Kyuubi. Bad Tobi, bad!