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#6121 AHK

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 10:36 PM

No, Sanji is the sweetest guy to women.
 
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And Sanji doesn't see them as weak, he is just over protective of women. He carried Nami while being beat up because he didn't want her body tapping the ground. That has nothing to do with her being weak. He just appreciates women A LOT, like, an unhealthy amount. He rather die than hurt a woman in any way.

Not really, considering how he acts towards them. Vivi attacked him, and was busy pretending that what they were doing was a game.

Sanji isn't being sweet by babying them, he's not being sweet by treating them like glass, he's not being sweet when he pretends that Nami and Robin don't have any strength to do things on their own, he's being a douchebag. Nami and Robin are on that crew just like everyone else, they spent two years training like everyone else. It's time for him to knock that crap off. If you're going to respect someone, then respect them, don't half-respect them.

There's a difference between being overprotective of them and viewing them as weak. Luffy is incredibly protective of his crew, but constantly believes in their strength and let's them show that they're strong. He was furious with Mihawk when he first attacked Zoro, but let Zoro prove himself and didn't jump in. Like literally every time he runs off, like he did at enies lobby, part of it is because he knows that the others will have his back.

There is a world of difference between the way that Luffy treats everyone (all equally), and the way Sanji treats Nami and Robin. Luffy wouldn't ever treat Nami and Robin like Sanji does. They might as well be made of glass, as far as Sanji is concerned.

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 10:46 PM

^ Because that's how Sanji treats all women. He is meant to be their guardian. Are you a pretty good looking girl and a Sanji happens to walk past you? Congrats, you got a free body guard. It's pretty obvious Sanji doesn't care for how strong people are. Zoro is obviously stronger than him, but he doesn't mind kicking at his swords. Like I said earlier, whatever happened to his mother changed him. Bet her death made him have the "don't let women feel pain" policy.


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Posted 08 August 2016 - 10:59 PM

Ew, and Sanji treats women like queens. Remember Viola? She tricked him, hurt him, and he still believed she was beautiful and a good person. He wouldn't allow Nami's body to touch the ground, no matter how much he was beat up. While he was drowning, all he could think about was how he didn't want to hurt Nami's body. It's pretty obvious his mother died, so that probably is a big reason why he doesn't want to hurt women. He's the sweetest guy on the Straw Hats, no kitten. Perverted, but would make almost any girl feel like a goddess.

I think this is complicated because he treats them with unconditional kindness and respect. But the idea and the writing is still sexist as this kindness comes out of his attraction to women(and only women he finds pretty, if I remember correctly), not the goodness of his heart. Or rather, his goodness is selective with gender as the only factor. Until we see more of his backstory I won't believe it's due to his mother either, but I want to say that won't make a difference; a woman is more than a gender. Sanji would be reluctany battling a woman because he doesn't see a warrior, only a woman. I think he fought a woman once tho, I don't remember much of it. :<

I also dislike how a man is expected to take a woman's violence with honor, or else he isn't manly enough. A woman can slap a man and the man shouldn't be upset, that is sexist and this happened to Sanji many times. I don't ship Sanji with anyone because he treats women all the same and flirts will everyone, while that is not cruel I believe he won't settle down for one woman.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't sexist in a woman hating kind of way and I don't blame Sanji personally. But his treatment of others is so heavily genderbased it is the result of sexism still.

Edited by sushi., 08 August 2016 - 11:09 PM.

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 11:42 PM

^ Because that's how Sanji treats all women. He is meant to be their guardian. Are you a pretty good looking girl and a Sanji happens to walk past you? Congrats, you got a free body guard. It's pretty obvious Sanji doesn't care for how strong people are. Zoro is obviously stronger than him, but he doesn't mind kicking at his swords. Like I said earlier, whatever happened to his mother changed him. Bet her death made him have the "don't let women feel pain" policy.


And that's a good thing? Absolutely not, it implies that he believes every woman that he sees he considers weak. Nami, Robin, Viola, they don't need his help. It isn't his business. They're in the new world. It doesn't matter what happened to his mother, it doesn't mean that he's right.

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 11:44 PM

^ @Sushi: I think his mom will be the reason behind his feelings towards violence on women. I bet he couldn't stop what happened to her or something. We'll see, but some guys follow older examples of chivalry, which is to never let the women or children be hurt. Even today, in a sinking ship or burning building, women and children get out first.

 

For Sanji, he takes it to an extreme amount, not even letting strong women fight someone if he can do it for them instead. Remember how horrible he felt making Nami fight before? In his dream world, Nami is happy and comfortable on the ship, drawing her maps all day while he feeds her. That's the kind of guy he is. Let him do all the bloody work while the women stay at home and stay comfy. Not long ago, a lot of men felt that way. One Piece takes place 500+ years before 2016. If Sanji is sexist for wanting women to feel comfy because he's an old classy guy, then that's just an opinion people have of him I guess.

 

Edit: He would protect Korra too. :chuckle:

 

But she's gay, right? So rip Sanji's shot with her.


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Posted 14 August 2016 - 02:20 AM

Been a few days since anyone posted here, so here you go.

 

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Posted 14 August 2016 - 12:33 PM

Disgusting

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Posted 14 August 2016 - 12:41 PM

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Posted 14 August 2016 - 02:21 PM

Looks nice :)

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Posted 14 August 2016 - 02:21 PM

Been a few days since anyone posted here, so here you go.

 

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*shrugs* whatever. Now show one with LuNa! :yes: NO COMPLAINTS because  you said you ship Nami with a lot of characters.


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Posted 14 August 2016 - 03:31 PM

 

*shrugs* whatever. Now show one with LuNa! :yes: NO COMPLAINTS because  you said you ship Nami with a lot of characters.

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Posted 15 August 2016 - 12:22 AM


 
*shrugs* whatever. Now show one with LuNa! :yes: NO COMPLAINTS because  you said you ship Nami with a lot of characters.

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Posted 15 August 2016 - 04:56 AM

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that's how it should be!


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Posted 15 August 2016 - 11:51 AM

I'm going on a OP marathon soon

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Posted 15 August 2016 - 08:29 PM

Nice what episode/chapter are you on?

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 12:24 AM

Nice what episode/chapter are you on?

Starting from chapter one because I can't remember `a lot.

 

How far is a the episodes?

 

Btw. when I used to watch OP I supported Nami x Luffy  so i guess that will be my ship until I see the other competition


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 01:19 AM

Starting from chapter one because I can't remember `a lot.
 
How far is a the episodes?
 
Btw. when I used to watch OP I supported Nami x Luffy  so i guess that will be my ship until I see the other competition

Well, there's like 750~ episodes of OP, I suggest the manga because it will take waaaaay less time lol

Looks like me, you, and Leo have become besties :smug: there is no competition, by the way.

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Posted 16 August 2016 - 01:34 AM

Well, there's like 750~ episodes of OP, I suggest the manga because it will take waaaaay less time lol

Looks like me, you, and Leo have become besties :smug: there is no competition, by the way.

Is the episodes up to date with the manga? I think I want to get acquainted  with the anime first and get some of the visuals  :umm:

 

I think what brought me to liking Nami x Luffy was the arc when they visited her island to fight the fish man. I think I remember her stabbing her hand or something like that. Thank god there is no competition. Hopefully it's smooth sailing all the way.

 

Anyways,this thread will be very active tomorrow because I'll be posting a lot and sharing some thoughts. I thought it was time to get into OP now that a lot of my tv shows are on break.  :love:



 


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 02:24 AM

there is no competition, by the way.

Don't read this Luna


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 04:39 AM

Is the episodes up to date with the manga? I think I want to get acquainted  with the anime first and get some of the visuals  :umm:
 
I think what brought me to liking Nami x Luffy was the arc when they visited her island to fight the fish man. I think I remember her stabbing her hand or something like that. Thank god there is no competition. Hopefully it's smooth sailing all the way.
 
Anyways,this thread will be very active tomorrow because I'll be posting a lot and sharing some thoughts. I thought it was time to get into OP now that a lot of my tv shows are on break.  :love:

  
Yeah, the anime is, for the most part, up to date with the manga. The manga is only a little ahead of the anime, and it sticks pretty close to the manga as well.

Close, it was her shoulder. I think that was the moment that sealed it for every LuNa fan. Their moments have been great ever since.

Don't read this Luna

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