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#6101 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 11 2012, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe you chilled a little bit too long at NF? Or maybe, just maybe, i decided to reread from the beginning of part 1 to now. But NF is a good way to view unbiased opinions.



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Why is he giving so much hints on NS especially on part 2? Who knows. Logic certainly won't help.

Why is he adding all the parallels, including Kushina's words to Naruto? Idk. You tell me.

Why is he making a movie full of NS moments and trolls NH and SS in there? Still has Sakura loving Sasuke in that movie, even if he did troll her with the rose.

U forgot to tell the part when she gest heartbroken and runs calling naruto's name ,you forgot that the movie does not show a storyline, it's like they have their personalities from the end of part 1.
The movie is a whole fanfiction to me but made by kishi.

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Why is kishi showing Naruto (the main character) in love with Sakura since part 3? Same can be said for Sakura and Hinata. But that question should really be thrown at Sakura instead.

Why is kishi showing that Sakura has romantic feelings for Naruto too? I thought that all was brought to the table during the confession. Part of her confession did have some truth in it after all, but gets negated as it is later shown that her heart truly belongs to Sasuke, as awful as it sounds.

Why is kishi showing Naruto's love selfless? Because he's a great guy and supports whatever Sakura does with her love life, even if it's not with him. The guy ain't expecting her love.

You forgot to mention that naruto still loves sakura, and moreover why he would still love a girl that loves another man even with him so far away and become a criminal?
this question have a double standard.
THis love for sakura make naruto suffer too because of his innability to confess.

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#6102 redragon88

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:56 PM

Hey guys, aren't we letting this escalate a little too much?

Why don't we think of it as this: Sakura's character development should be a journey of self discovery into what she truly wants.

Her resolution about her feelings should come during the near end of the story so it wouldn't have made sense for her to already consciously love Naruto in the middle of the story. Therefore, until her character development is concluded it's necessary (at least in Kishi's perspective) to keep her love for Sasuke as it is.

Sakura's character has greatly matured throughout the story, but the one thing that holds her back is her love for Sasuke. Her views of love are the only remnant of how Sakura was before she matured, and until Kishi is completely done developing her character that last unsolved aspect of her must remain intact.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

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Great posts! I personally don't believe that SasuSaku has that much of a chance, I mean this is Sasuke we're talking about a rock has more interest in pursuing romance then he does. Even if Sakura still likes/loves him that doesn't necessarily make the pairing canon. So unless Sasu-chan discovers his "undying love" for her I see this ship as moot turned.gif.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:02 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 11 2012, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys, aren't we letting this escalate a little too much?

Why don't we think of it as this: Sakura's character development should be a journey of self discovery into what she truly wants.

Her resolution about her feelings should come during the near end of the story so it wouldn't have made sense for her to already consciously love Naruto in the middle of the story. Therefore, until her character development is concluded it's necessary (at least in Kishi's perspective) to keep her love for Sasuke as it is.

Sakura's character has greatly matured throughout the story, but the one thing that holds her back is her love for Sasuke. Her views of love are the only remnant of how Sakura was before she matured, and until Kishi is completely done developing her character that last unsolved aspect of her must remain intact.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 11 2012, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@luffyq1

I think I understand what you're trying to say.

While you believe that NS has a very good chance of happening, even higher than SS and NH, you're worried about how well it might be delivered when it's finally realized given your disappointment in the way Kishi has chosen to develop her character when it comes to her views of love.

Is that about right?


Thank you for being the only one on this site for understanding my viewpoint.

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 11 2012, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As i already thought you cant really answer this qestions.
But yeah You cant say the same for sakuras feelings for sasuke since chapter 3 since sakura is not the main protoganist who the manga is named after. Also sakuras instead of naruto has already shown doubts forher love and developed feelings for naruto.

As for the unbiased view of NF: i just cant stop laughing.

The movie showed how sakura realized that sasuke is the wrong guy and you kind of see her moving on to naruto. Maybe some forshadowing!?

The last time: no the confession did not show that sakura has no romantic feelings for naruto, it was the exact opposite

As for the last answer: naruto is the the main character so you think kishi makes him loosing one of his most important goals?
Pls tell me the sence in that! Whats the message in showing the main character loosing the love of his life?

Just give it up these are no real arguments you couldnt even answer why hes adding parrallels and hints.


Your arguments are truly weak. I did answer your questions, it's just that some of them i didn't take seriously, like the parallels for example. Why give a serious answer when both fandoms twist the logic in their favor? The manga supports illogical things. And that main character argument again? Naruto's love for Sakura ain't a detriment to his character. And you think 3rd times the charm in murder attempts to finally have Sakura doubt her feelings for Sasuke? That just goes to show her devotion to the guy. I've given you facts to support my claims that Sakura's confession should be taken seriously, and all you give me is no? You're not making any good points at all.


What are you laughing for? No offense but you'll find more unbiased views on NF than on a site called NaruSaku.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:11 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 11 2012, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for being the only one on this site for understanding my viewpoint.



Your arguments are truly weak. I did answer your questions, it's just that some of them i didn't take seriously, like the parallels for example. Why give a serious answer when both fandoms twist the logic in their favor? The manga supports illogical things. And that main character argument again? Naruto's love for Sakura ain't a detriment to his character. And you think 3rd times the charm in murder attempts to finally have Sakura doubt her feelings for Sasuke? That just goes to show her devotion to the guy. I've given you facts to support my claims that Sakura's confession should be taken seriously, and all you give me is no? You're not making any good points at all.


What are you laughing for? No offense but you'll find more unbiased views on NF than on a site called NaruSaku.

Oh rly liek what?
"Naruto should choose hINATA because sakura is a b*tch"
"sakura is a useless b*tch"
"sakura is so useless because of this and that"
"Hinata is awesome"
"kiba says something , NH is canon naruto has feelings for hinata".
I find unbiased views at brch where i talk about naruto which is free from shippers and everyone discuss about the chapter and not about pairings.
A place if you make arguments without any proof or something to make your standpoint you got a ban for one week.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 11 2012, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh rly liek what?
"Naruto should choose hINATA because sakura is a b*tch"
"sakura is a useless b*tch"
"sakura is so useless because of this and that"
"Hinata is awesome"
"kiba says something , NH is canon naruto has feelings for hinata".
I find unbiased views at brch where i talk about naruto which is free from shippers and everyone discuss about the chapter and not about pairings.
A place if you make arguments without any proof or something to make your standpoint you got a ban for one week.


Naruto should choose Hinata because Sakura is a b*tch? No. But people have said that he deserves better. But Hinata certainly ain't the answer.

Sakura is a useless b*tch? No

Sakura is so useless because of this and that? No

Hinata is awesome? No

Kiba says something, NH is canon Naruto has feelings for Hinata? No.

That's nice that you've found a place. But i prefer NF.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

Topic change anyone sweatdrop.gif???

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 11 2012, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for being the only one on this site for understanding my viewpoint.



Your arguments are truly weak. I did answer your questions, it's just that some of them i didn't take seriously, like the parallels for example. Why give a serious answer when both fandoms twist the logic in their favor? The manga supports illogical things. And that main character argument again? Naruto's love for Sakura ain't a detriment to his character. And you think 3rd times the charm in murder attempts to finally have Sakura doubt her feelings for Sasuke? That just goes to show her devotion to the guy. I've given you facts to support my claims that Sakura's confession should be taken seriously, and all you give me is no? You're not making any good points at all.


What are you laughing for? No offense but you'll find more unbiased views on NF than on a site called NaruSaku.

Laughable! So you dont take parralels serious as well as NS hints. Thats sad because these are the hints and development that show that NS is the most likely pairing.
Also as said before: sakra did not say after sasuke tried to kill her, that she still is in undieable love with him.
I dont see any bad point from my side its just that you cant answer the qusetion and always stick to your comment that the confession was the only point for Naruto and sakura to get together.

Also about your answer to redragon88's post:
Your arguments dont sound like you believe that NS is the most likely pairing.

But what shall i say? How about you stick to you view on the manga in i stick to my own.
A little hint: you could also take a look at the SS forum, i feel like they support your opinions too.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 11 2012, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is kishi showing that Sakura has romantic feelings for Naruto too? I thought that all was brought to the table during the confession. Part of her confession did have some truth in it after all, but gets negated as it is later shown that her heart truly belongs to Sasuke, as awful as it sounds.

Why is kishi showing Naruto's love selfless? Because he's a great guy and supports whatever Sakura does with her love life, even if it's not with him. The guy ain't expecting her love.


I think the fair comparison would be to see how Sakura reacts when she's confronted with the situation where she need to decide who she prioritize more: Naruto or Sasuke. This may or may not be directly translate to who she loves the most, depends on the audience interpretation. Let's see some of the scenes:

- Bell test part 1: Sakura gave her food after she saw Sasuke gave his food to Naruto.
- Zabusa fight: Sakura jumped to save Naruto from the enemy attack.
- Chuunin exam: Sakura shouted to Sasuke by telling him that at least Naruto isn't a coward. She's also willing to sacrifice her chance and Sasuke's in order to protect Naruto's dream
- Hospital rooftop scene: Sakura tried to stop Naruto and Sasuke, and nearly got fatally injured. I made a note to myself when I read the chapter years ago, that the author is planning to make a triangle between them. The symbolism is very obvious if you see how Kishi drew this scene.
- First encounter with Sasuke after he defected: I can't see 'love' when she first saw him after a couple of years. She was shocked, but that's all about it. I don't really see a girl who has a strong determination to bring her loved one back to the right path.
- Deidara fight when he dropped the ultimate bomb: The focus was suddenly shifted to Sakura, as if Kishi is telling that Sakura intuition is tightly related to Sasuke well being. My problem with that scene is, it doesn't have any continuation, nor significant build up which Kishi normally use to deliver his message.
- Naruto vs Sasuke after Danzo's death: when they attacked at each other, Sakura only shout Naruto's name. A big difference if you compare it to the hospital roof top scene, no?

I personally think that Sakura prioritizes Naruto more than Sasuke. Whether it'll translate to love eventually, we'll have to see. I think she doesn't realize that the most important person for her is right there close to her, not someone she hardly know or talked to. An acknowledgement to this would be her greatest conclusion.

Kishi loves symbolism. He has demonstrated this since the bench scene, which overshadow major points in the manga --the one who know her and the one who truly understand her is Naruto, but all she can see is Sasuke.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE (Namaenash @ Dec 11 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the fair comparison would be to see how Sakura reacts when she's confronted with the situation where she need to decide who she prioritize more: Naruto or Sasuke. This may or may not be directly translate to who she loves the most, depends on the audience interpretation. Let's see some of the scenes:

- Bell test part 1: Sakura gave her food after she saw Sasuke gave his food to Naruto.
- Zabusa fight: Sakura jumped to save Naruto from the enemy attack.
- Chuunin exam: Sakura shouted to Sasuke by telling him that at least Naruto isn't a coward. She's also willing to sacrifice her chance and Sasuke's in order to protect Naruto's dream
- Hospital rooftop scene: Sakura tried to stop Naruto and Sasuke, and nearly got fatally injured. I made a note to myself when I read the chapter years ago, that the author is planning to make a triangle between them. The symbolism is very obvious if you see how Kishi drew this scene.
- First encounter with Sasuke after he defected: I can't see 'love' when she first saw him after a couple of years. She was shocked, but that's all about it. I don't really see a girl who has a strong determination to bring her loved one back to the right path.
- Deidara fight when he dropped the ultimate bomb: The focus was suddenly shifted to Sakura, as if Kishi is telling that Sakura intuition is tightly related to Sasuke well being. My problem with that scene is, it doesn't have any continuation, nor significant build up which Kishi normally use to deliver his message.
- Naruto vs Sasuke after Danzo's death: when they attacked at each other, Sakura only shout Naruto's name. A big difference if you compare it to the hospital roof top scene, no?

I personally think that Sakura prioritizes Naruto more than Sasuke. Whether it'll translate to love eventually, we'll have to see. I think she doesn't realize that the most important person for her is right there close to her, not someone she hardly know or talked to. An acknowledgement to this would be her greatest conclusion.

Kishi loves symbolism. He has demonstrated this since the bench scene, which overshadow major points in the manga --the one who know her and the one who truly understand her is Naruto, but all she can see is Sasuke.

This again, you forgot the part that she tried to kill sasuke for naruto well being because she thought she made naruto's suffer with her promise.
Sakura prioritizes naruto that why i said if naruto confess his love for her she will accept.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE (Namaenash @ Dec 11 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the fair comparison would be to see how Sakura reacts when she's confronted with the situation where she need to decide who she prioritize more: Naruto or Sasuke. This may or may not be directly translate to who she loves the most, depends on the audience interpretation. Let's see some of the scenes:

- Bell test part 1: Sakura gave her food after she saw Sasuke gave his food to Naruto.
- Zabusa fight: Sakura jumped to save Naruto from the enemy attack.
- Chuunin exam: Sakura shouted to Sasuke by telling him that at least Naruto isn't a coward. She's also willing to sacrifice her chance and Sasuke's in order to protect Naruto's dream
- Hospital rooftop scene: Sakura tried to stop Naruto and Sasuke, and nearly got fatally injured. I made a note to myself when I read the chapter years ago, that the author is planning to make a triangle between them. The symbolism is very obvious if you see how Kishi drew this scene.
- First encounter with Sasuke after he defected: I can't see 'love' when she first saw him after a couple of years. She was shocked, but that's all about it. I don't really see a girl who has a strong determination to bring her loved one back to the right path.
- Deidara fight when he dropped the ultimate bomb: The focus was suddenly shifted to Sakura, as if Kishi is telling that Sakura intuition is tightly related to Sasuke well being. My problem with that scene is, it doesn't have any continuation, nor significant build up which Kishi normally use to deliver his message.
- Naruto vs Sasuke after Danzo's death: when they attacked at each other, Sakura only shout Naruto's name. A big difference if you compare it to the hospital roof top scene, no?

I personally think that Sakura prioritizes Naruto more than Sasuke. Whether it'll translate to love eventually, we'll have to see. I think she doesn't realize that the most important person for her is right there close to her, not someone she hardly know or talked to. An acknowledgement to this would be her greatest conclusion.

Kishi loves symbolism. He has demonstrated this since the bench scene, which overshadow major points in the manga --the one who know her and the one who truly understand her is Naruto, but all she can see is Sasuke.



Look, I'm exhausting from going back and forth with phenix's pointless arguments. So sorry in advance for not giving you a good reply. I respect your post because you layed down manga events to support your claims. But at the end of the day she still loves Sasuke, not Naruto, and that right there is the big problem. After all that she's still indecisive. If NS becomes canon, there won't be much to celebrate about. Her character is already being degraded by Kishi.

I'll just spectate from now. I'm tired.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:39 PM

I don't think that luffy is a troll it's far from that, what happen to luffy is that he just re-read the Manga and Sakura's part one behavior kind of change the way he views her on NS, this just happen with another Sakura fan that recently requested to remove her name from the Sakura FC member list because she also just re-read the Manga.

I re-read the Manga many times and also have my doubts about NS being beating by SS, not because of the Manga context is more like Kishimoto and his Uchiha fan wank (after all the guy has ruing Naruto, Sakura, Orochimaru, Itachi and Taka characters just for Sasuke character to look better).

Their are many thinks I don't like about NS and it's mostly tied to Sakura character in general, but Kishi did tell the readers that he thought that he was showing us a heroine but he was harshly told by the readers that she wasn't close to being one, I believe that he will give her that moment to shine and also to re-evolute her feelings for Sasuke and have her personal view on the way Naruto has treated her.

Many will say that it already happen in her confession, but we need to remember that Sakura confession was driven mostly by the guilt she felt, in that confession she was only thinking about Naruto's feelings not about herself plus Naruto has not expressed to Sakura how he feels about her at lease the get that off his chest, in the end I believe that Kishimoto making NS the end pairing consist more with the overall story.
Also it's hard for me to see Naruto losing to Sasuke in the end, while Sakura still running back to Sasuke, this will only happen if Kishimoto wants to make her character more detestable and justify Naruto suddenly moving on to Hinata.
In other words Kishimoto will really need to hate Sakura and don't give a damn about his main character feelings.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (SugarJunkE @ Dec 11 2012, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Topic change anyone sweatdrop.gif???


I second that. Lol smile.gif Come on people, this is just manga and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Let's just enjoy it and let's see what message Kishi want to convey.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 11 2012, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look, I'm exhausting from going back and forth with phenix's pointless arguments. So sorry in advance for not giving you a good response. i respect your post because you layed down manga events to support your claims. But at the end of the day she still loves Sasuke, not Naruto, and that right there is the big problem. After all that she's still indecisive. If NS becomes canon, there won't be much to celebrate about. Her character is already being degraded by Kishi.

I'll just spectate from now. I'm tired.



QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 11 2012, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think that luffy is a troll it's far from that, what happen to luffy is that he just re-read the Manga and Sakura's part one behavior kind of change the way he views her on NS, this just happen with another Sakura fan that recently requested to remove her name from the Sakura FC member list because she also just re-read the Manga.

I re-read the Manga many times and also have my doubts about NS being beating by SS, not because of the Manga context is more like Kishimoto and his Uchiha fan wank (after all the guy has ruing Naruto, Sakura, Orochimaru, Itachi and Taka characters just for Sasuke character to look better).

Their are many thinks I don't like about NS and it's mostly tied to Sakura character in general, but Kishi did tell the readers that he thought that he was showing us a heroine but he was harshly told by the readers that she wasn't close to being one, I believe that he will give her that moment to shine and also to re-evolute her feelings for Sasuke and have her personal view on the way Naruto has treated her.

Many will say that it already happen in her confession, but we need to remember that Sakura confession was driven mostly by the guilt she felt, in that confession she was only thinking about Naruto's feelings not about herself plus Naruto has not expressed to Sakura how he feels about her at lease the get that off his chest, in the end I believe that Kishimoto making NS the end pairing consist more with the overall story.
Also it's hard for me to see Naruto losing to Sasuke in the end, while Sakura still running back to Sasuke, this will only happen if Kishimoto wants to make her character more detestable and justify Naruto suddenly moving on to Hinata.
In other words Kishimoto will really need to hate Sakura and don't give a damn about his main character feelings.

So, this is about her in general. Fair enough.

I personally didn't give up. The Kage Summit Arc was the only time in part 2 to me at least that her character was hurt, due to exposing her weakest point once again since part 1. It's like a bad reminder to all of us. Again, it's unfortunate that due to the fact the manga is still going and end is not that near, we have to keep the push of love triangle, even the timing is acceptable in my book. Also, the war arc lasts far too long and gave spotlight to many side characters, which is why many got bored until Naruto vs. Tobi happened (first time). That said Sakura didn't get her moment, but the buildup seems to be there.

It would seem that perhaps Kishi is serious about making her doing more heroine like. She has been the spectator status for a while with few action here and there, but people would like her to get some fight 1 vs. 1 or pretty much a big combat. I think her being medic already have her doing a lot, which Kishi probably thinks it's ok, but the fans reacted differently. Yeah, you can say "he forgotten her" but at this time, it's kind of hard to fit a lot of things if the main focus is the brotherhood relationship. That all said I do think Kishi will do us a favor soon. He did receive a positive feedback for Sakura in the movie, so perhaps he finally got the right idea. Since he's in Shounen Jump, a lot of his characters, especially main characters, need to fight as a battle manga. I would wait and see if there's anything. I still have low expectations, but that's only because the surprise will be greater on me.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:37 PM

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I believe that people are expecting too much from Sakura, people wants a big fight to shut up the hater, while I believe a fight will be good I don't believe it's important, Sakura need development a long with Naruto, she needs to learn how to value and protect the one who cares about her while open her eye to the situation she has with Sasuke (stop relying on Naruto so much, while making him rely on her for a change will be a good start). Naruto needs to start trusting other, stop believing that everyone needs to see things his way and open his eye to the his situation with Sasuke (while accepting that he has other that really cares about him and Sasuke is not one of them).
So for me is more about personal development and them stop being so Sasuke dependence.

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 11 2012, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look, I'm exhausting from going back and forth with phenix's pointless arguments. So sorry in advance for not giving you a good reply. I respect your post because you layed down manga events to support your claims. But at the end of the day she still loves Sasuke, not Naruto, and that right there is the big problem. After all that she's still indecisive. If NS becomes canon, there won't be much to celebrate about. Her character is already being degraded by Kishi.

I'll just spectate from now. I'm tired.



I starting to believe that you are far gone. the reason so many fans go against the parallels is because the don't have a argument against it, we NS fans want to see Sakura developing more, face reality, on stop living in a fantasy, the ones who doesn't want this are either Sasuke lovers who wants to see a happy Sasuke and don't care how pathetic the other character might be seen, the one who loves NH and want Sakura to keep that way so Naruto can finally give up on her, the ones who hates Sakura and find this a perfect reason on why to bash her character and the ones that are desperate for something to reassure them that NS still have chances to a point where they are becoming very bitter because after 540 the cannot see a Sakura >>>>Naruto moment.

Sasuke has not being a good influence to Sakura, at some point she will understand and accept that, Sasuke does not love her, everyone expecting to see Naruto changing Sasuke with his last words, why it's hard for Naruto to change Sakura with his last words even when he won't confess to change her mind, it will be more like Naruto finally being honest to her.

You only have to see things the logical way, Naruto still loving Sakura makes all other pairing impossible (Main Character while his love is selfless), SS gives a very negative message to the readers, Sakura running back to Sasuke hurts her character, Naruto losing to Sasuke gives the story a bitter taste.
This negative events will only make you ask yourself if Sasuke was truly the main character and not Naruto since he will be the one with all the benefit while Naruto will only be disappointed in the end.


This is why it's hard for me to doubt a NS outcome in the end.

Edited by Don-kun, 11 December 2012 - 04:53 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

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Sorry but he's really half right, kishimoto really downgraded her character on that lover-nin, maybe the problems is the pairing drama which he cant finish this yet and he has to keep her feelings for sasuke, what really degrades her is her feelings she has for sasuke and nothing more, while she now knows that naruto loves her and look at how it's funny, naruto knows that hinata loves him he has not talked with her about this, naruto knows that sai told sakura that he loves her, and he still didnt talked with sakura about it, and neither sakura talked with naruto about his feelings, he had to keep the pairing drama.
The more he keeps the pairing drama the more sakura is downgraded and bashed by himself, for this reason i dont call sakura a heroine just because she's more romantic centered.

At the same time the NH fandom should bash naruto for completely ignoring hinata's confession, and even naruto that now knows that sakura know his secret.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 December 2012 - 04:44 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Dec 12 2012, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look, I'm exhausting from going back and forth with phenix's pointless arguments. So sorry in advance for not giving you a good reply. I respect your post because you layed down manga events to support your claims. But at the end of the day she still loves Sasuke, not Naruto, and that right there is the big problem. After all that she's still indecisive. If NS becomes canon, there won't be much to celebrate about. Her character is already being degraded by Kishi.

I'll just spectate from now. I'm tired.

I could also say that at the end of the day she loves naruto and not Sasuke. After all that she's indecisisive. If sasusaku becomes canon, there won't be much to celebrate about. Her character doesn't deserve to be sentenced to Sasuke .

You see how your post can be easily implemented for a rebuttal?

But then you'll just give evidence from a particular scene that can be interpreted in different ways so we're gonna run around in circles, so the best thing to, as mentioned before is wait.


Edited by Chucky-kun, 11 December 2012 - 07:54 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:56 PM

Guys, don\'t wanna be reading very much into it BUT, on the cover for 483, when she meets Sasuke, look what it says on the sideline.



Isn\'t a bit of a foreshadowing? Meaning that Sakura, in the end, slowly but it will change? That includes her feelings for Sasuke?
In the end, from the Kage Summit up to the War with the nin guy, much time didn\'t pass... And Kishi isn\'t telling us that her character will change, but slowly?
Taking away those feelings for Sasuke right off the bat would seem a bit unnatural, don\'t you think?
At least, this is how I see it. *shrugs*

Edited by Chatte, 11 December 2012 - 07:59 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Dec 12 2012, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys, don\'t wanna be reading very much into it BUT, on the cover for 483, when she meets Sasuke, look what it says on the sideline.


Isn\'t a bit of a foreshadowing? Meaning that Sakura, in the end, slowly but it will change? That includes her feelings for Sasuke?
In the end, from the Kage Summit up to the War with the nin guy, much time didn\'t pass... And Kishi isn\'t telling us that her character will change, but slowly?
Taking away those feelings for Sasuke right off the bat would seem a bit unnatural, don\'t you think?
At least, this is how I see it. *shrugs*

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