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[bthug]

Sakura's attractiveness is definitely played down in the Anime, but honestly i kind of enjoy it. Actually it makes me like her even more.

[T XD]

Sakura's attractiveness is definitely played down in the Anime, but honestly i kind of enjoy it. Actually it makes me like her even more.

I see her the same in anime and manga. Of course, I prefer images of her from anime cause it's in color XD

Edited by T XD, 18 August 2013 - 09:23 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

They're fine either way. Just make the special once in a lifetime design much rewarding. You know, when they wear something "new" and not much Tomboyish design or combat wise. Tsundere girls got this effect for some reason.

[sushi.]

Personally I prefer Kishimoto's art more. He's a better artist than Pierrot. But Pierrot can pull it off if they copy Kishi's panels and just animate them.

 

btw Sakura was beautifully animated in the RtN one shot!

They're fine either way. Just make the special once in a lifetime design much rewarding. You know, when they wear something "new" and not much Tomboyish design or combat wise. Tsundere girls got this effect for some reason.

Sakura's outfit is my favourite in Shippuden. It's feminine and suited for combat. :3 Naruto's is my least favourite, I mean who would wear that.

Edited by sushi., 18 August 2013 - 09:27 PM.

[T XD]

Personally I prefer Kishimoto's art more. He's a better artist than Pierrot. But Pierrot can pull it off if they copy Kishi's panels and just animate them.

 

btw Sakura was beautifully animated in the RtN one shot!

Sakura's outfit is my favourite in Shippuden. It's feminine and suited for combat. :3 Naruto's is my least favourite, I mean who would wear that.

Lol. Jumpsuits are difficult to move with sometimes, but Naruto's are baggy. Seems he's comfortable in them XD

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Sakura's outfit is my favourite in Shippuden. It's feminine and suited for combat. :3 Naruto's is my least favourite, I mean who would wear that.

I like it too. Naruto stands out so I guess it works fine in series wise. Lol. Speaking of outfits, I really hope Sakura either goes back or get a new one in the finale. I kind of don't want her to end in a Kakashi señorita jr. Yeah, I went there.

[T XD]

I like it too. Naruto stands out so I guess it works fine in series wise. Lol. Speaking of outfits, I really hope Sakura either goes back or get a new one in the finale. I kind of don't want her to end in a Kakashi señorita jr. Yeah, I went there.

Kakashi señorita jr ? . You mean the same as Kakashi's outfit ?

Edited by T XD, 18 August 2013 - 09:37 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Kakashi señorita jr ? . You mean the same as Kakashi's outfit ?

Lol yeah I know. I just want people to get thrown off.

[Kster95]

Lol yeah I know. I just want people to get thrown off.

 

I feel it makes her look badass, she should have had it every time she went on a mission and I wish they put it on Naruto as well even though the outfit is for chunnin/Jonin. 

Edited by Kster95, 18 August 2013 - 09:45 PM.

[T XD]

Lol yeah I know. I just want people to get thrown off.

Lol. Maybe she'll return to her normal outfit or not, but Naruto sure needs some new clothes.

 

If not, she'll have a new outfit. I think it will look cool on her like the other one.

Edited by T XD, 18 August 2013 - 09:46 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I feel it makes her look badass, she should have had it every time she went on a mission and I wish they put it on Naruto as well even though the outfit is for chunnin/Jonin. 

While true, it's not identifiable in terms of characters. Real life, yeah, you'll need that in war in that universe, but in media, you'll want to end with a clothe that most people are familiar with. Stand out or be placed in background.

[sushi.]

Have you noticed Kishi draws Sakura and Naruto(especially Naruto) more adultlike? Jaws etc.. :3 Their faces are not as blubby as in the beginning of Shippuden.

 

That's why they might change their outfit, they've worn it for at least 2 years for gods sake.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Have you noticed Kishi draws Sakura and Naruto(especially Naruto) more adultlike? Jaws etc.. :3 Their faces are not as blubby as in the beginning of Shippuden.
 
That's why they might change their outfit, they've worn it for at least 2 years for gods sake.

Are you referring part 1 clothing? Because I do understand. Naruto part 1 was too big but part 2 is just right, allow him to look badass regardless with the color. Granted he has those in part 1, but something adding on cloak or RKM over it and he will be just fine. Maybe they should get new outfit for finale. It is the finale, end with a bang, I want Naruto to end on a high note, but we'll see. Usually a lot of characters at the end goes to original look or add on with more cool factor.

[sushi.]

Are you referring part 1 clothing? Because I do understand. Naruto part 1 was too big but part 2 is just right, allow him to look badass regardless with the color. Granted he has those in part 1, but something adding on cloak or RKM over it and he will be just fine. Maybe they should get new outfit for finale. It is the finale, end with a bang, I want Naruto to end on a high note, but we'll see. Usually a lot of characters at the end goes to original look or add on with more cool factor.

No I mean the part 2 clothing. It's october, so they're both pretty much 17. In the beginning of part 2, they're 15.

 

I actually liked his part 1 outfit. A 12 year old doesn't have much fashion sense anyway. But a teen? The pants are too short, it's orange and the bottom matches the top.

Edited by sushi., 18 August 2013 - 10:07 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Are you referring part 1 clothing? Because I do understand. Naruto part 1 was too big but part 2 is just right, allow him to look badass regardless with the color. Granted he has those in part 1, but something adding on cloak or RKM over it and he will be just fine. Maybe they should get new outfit for finale. It is the finale, end with a bang, I want Naruto to end on a high note, but we'll see. Usually a lot of characters at the end goes to original look or add on with more cool factor.

He only gets baddas when he had the cloak or when on KCM when he's normal he doesnt look like a ninja, it's kinda funny because none of them looks like a ninja, Naruto would have a hard time doing camouflage with his orange shirt.

[James S Cassidy]

Well yeah everyone is entitled to their own opinion in a sensible way. Like, yeah i understand why you say sasuke has bad development, because his development wasnt perfect. But I think the way it was all put together fits and is good, I also feel like his rivalry with naruto wasnt bad. I felt like it was actually rivalry, not the most cliche rivalry but it was good.

 

Well, no development is perfect, but Sasuke's development is not gradual nor does it really flow that well. Here is a character who changes faster than the wind. There is no rivalry with the main character cause I feel there is no real competition between them which is a huge factor in a rivalry situation. One tries to best the other in some way, shape, or form. Sasuke...doesn't need to rival Naruto because he already thinks he is better than him. And Naruto doesn't really rival Sasuke because he isn't trying to be better than him either. Instead it is more of a Luke Skywalker effect where he is trying to change his father, not surpass him as a Jedi.

 

It isn't really a love rivalry either because Sasuke never wanted Sakura. it is not two men fighting over one woman. There was a better rivalry between Ino and Sakura over Sasuke which is not going to go anywhere. It is not like we don't have cliche rivalry at all in this manga either: Lee and Neji is a good one. Sakura and Ino. There is only a real rivalry because we make it a rivalry. We want Naruto to be better than Sasuke and get the girl. Naruto himself doesn't see it this way.

One other problem I have with Sasuke's development is how at many times people say it is up to Naruto to change Sasuke's view, but in reality anyone, but Naruto and Sakura can change his view. We have Itachi saying he will leave Sasuke to Naruto, yet has been the number one reason why  Sasuke changed his opinion. We have Hashirama and Obito saying stuff to him to change his mind about stuff, but whenever Naruto talks to him. Sasuke just laughs in his face.

Really, I just hate Sasuke's development because it doesn't feel like he progresses naturally, but rather Sasuke changed into what the story needs him to be.

 

Im gonna have to disagree with people who say sasuke doesnt cherish sakura as a comrade just like naruto, well naruto is obviously a little different but that doesnt make sakura less. In the kage summit arc he was kinda out of it. He lashed out karin and sakura. I persinally dont think sasuke has feelings for karin and I doubt he'll end up with karin in order for peace to be between the uzumakis and uchiha. Thats for naruto and sasuke. So I conclude that naruto and sakura are sasukes cherished comrsdes, even though naruto is kinda not ok in sasukes mentality.

 

I think it kind of does actually seeing as he wants nothing to do with her and at times even ignores her existence. Hell, in part 1 he calls her useless and berates her. Sure there are some moments where he seems like he cares about her, but why the next minute he just doesn't care at all? Then he attempted to kill her and didn't even flinch at the idea of it. Sure, he did it to Karin too, but then again he apologized to Karin afterwords. He has done no such thing for Sakura nor has even tried to.

 

Speaking of which, does this also seem like an oddity? Sasuke at one moment seems to act like he cares about Sakura and then the next minute doesn't seem to care at all? One moment he is telling her thank you, and then the next he is strangling her. I fail to see where the "cherished" part comes in.

Cherish is by definition: To treat with affection and tenderness; hold dear

Sasuke has done no such thing to Sakura and at times has even done the complete opposite.

This is why I say that Sasuke doesn't cherish nor hate Sakura, but rather he is very much indifferent about her. He doesn't target her, but he doesn't really care if she lives or dies. If she stayed out of his way, he won't target her, but if she does get in the way of his goals, he will run her through. Does this really sound like a person who cherishes another?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Well, no development is perfect, but Sasuke's development is not gradual nor does it really flow that well. Here is a character who changes faster than the wind. There is no rivalry with the main character cause I feel there is no real competition between them which is a huge factor in a rivalry situation. One tries to best the other in some way, shape, or form. Sasuke...doesn't need to rival Naruto because he already thinks he is better than him. And Naruto doesn't really rival Sasuke because he isn't trying to be better than him either. Instead it is more of a Luke Skywalker effect where he is trying to change his father, not surpass him as a Jedi.

 

It isn't really a love rivalry either because Sasuke never wanted Sakura. it is not two men fighting over one woman. There was a better rivalry between Ino and Sakura over Sasuke which is not going to go anywhere. It is not like we don't have cliche rivalry at all in this manga either: Lee and Neji is a good one. Sakura and Ino. There is only a real rivalry because we make it a rivalry. We want Naruto to be better than Sasuke and get the girl. Naruto himself doesn't see it this way.

One other problem I have with Sasuke's development is how at many times people say it is up to Naruto to change Sasuke's view, but in reality anyone, but Naruto and Sakura can change his view. We have Itachi saying he will leave Sasuke to Naruto, yet has been the number one reason why  Sasuke changed his opinion. We have Hashirama and Obito saying stuff to him to change his mind about stuff, but whenever Naruto talks to him. Sasuke just laughs in his face.

Really, I just hate Sasuke's development because it doesn't feel like he progresses naturally, but rather Sasuke changed into what the story needs him to be.

 

I think it kind of does actually seeing as he wants nothing to do with her and at times even ignores her existence. Hell, in part 1 he calls her useless and berates her. Sure there are some moments where he seems like he cares about her, but why the next minute he just doesn't care at all? Then he attempted to kill her and didn't even flinch at the idea of it. Sure, he did it to Karin too, but then again he apologized to Karin afterwords. He has done no such thing for Sakura nor has even tried to.

 

Speaking of which, does this also seem like an oddity? Sasuke at one moment seems to act like he cares about Sakura and then the next minute doesn't seem to care at all? One moment he is telling her thank you, and then the next he is strangling her. I fail to see where the "cherished" part comes in.

Cherish is by definition: To treat with affection and tenderness; hold dear

Sasuke has done no such thing to Sakura and at times has even done the complete opposite.

This is why I say that Sasuke doesn't cherish nor hate Sakura, but rather he is very much indifferent about her. He doesn't target her, but he doesn't really care if she lives or dies. If she stayed out of his way, he won't target her, but if she does get in the way of his goals, he will run her through. Does this really sound like a person who cherishes another?

Funny how Sasuke and Naruto saved her from that thing i mean, it's worse than a rollercoaster.

I would say only Naruto is the person he at last cares a bit to a point that he's there on his flashbacks.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 August 2013 - 10:33 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

No I mean the part 2 clothing. It's october, so they're both pretty much 17. In the beginning of part 2, they're 15.
 
I actually liked his part 1 outfit. A 12 year old doesn't have much fashion sense anyway. But a teen? The pants are too short, it's orange and the bottom matches the top.

Wait, when did part 2 started? As in month? How sure we are about when it took place and what not. Sheesh, that means no celebration for all others while Naruto most likely get an on-screen one. For that matter, I hope they confirm who's the oldest and youngest of Team 7.

[Paptala]

I wouldn't be surprised if Naruto got an outfit change after the war - we've never seen his outfit this ripped up and destroyed before.  I hope he at least gets to keep the long headband as well as the taller black boots.

 

Couldn't say whether Sakura will get an outfit change or not - I really like both her normal shinobi get up and her Jounin outfit, and neither really seems to have taken any damage.

 

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As far as Sasuke's character development goes, I think he's kind of been just all over the place since he killed his brother, and especially since the summit.  Though maybe that was intentional, given what Itachi said about Sasuke being easily influenced (though that sort of flies in the face of Naruto not being able to change his mindset - so everyone but Naruto and Sakura can easily influence him?).

 

It's hard to say that Sasuke is still completely indifferent to Sakura since he did protect her from one attack - that would suggest that he does care on some level for her at this point, as much as that makes zero sense considering that he still plans on killing Naruto, whom he had a much closer bond with in part one.  Unless he helped protect Sakura to ensure the continuing cooperation of Naruto and the Hokages?

 

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As far as ages go, I always thought Sakura was the oldest and Naruto was the youngest, but it could easily turn out the Sakura is the youngest and Naruto is in the middle since we never were given the years of their birth.  Either way, the age difference is only a few months and hardly makes a difference.

 

I doubt Kishimoto will even think to clarify - I myself didn't think that Sakura could be the youngest until I saw the argument for it.  I just always assumed Kishimoto worked from January to December for each age group, rather than any sort of school year.

Edited by Paptala, 18 August 2013 - 10:51 PM.

[sushi.]

I think Sasuke protected Sakura because he decided he would be on their side, temporarily. That's why he'll protect the ones on their side. He has only bothered to talk to Naruto(Sakura even talked to him, without getting a response), so my belief still remains; Sasuke is completely indifferent about Sakura.

Couldn't say whether Sakura will get an outfit change or not - I really like both her normal shinobi get up and her Jounin outfit, and neither really seems to have taken any damage.

Speaking of which, Naruto's outfit is ripped to shreds.

Edited by sushi., 18 August 2013 - 10:56 PM.