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#6001 ALEX SENJU

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:27 PM

LOL The more I think and read about this ending the more I find it stupid and unbelievable. Naruto never gave us the answer to breaking the cycle of hatred, at very least Madara and Obito were actually aiming for real peace and breaking the cycle of hatred, and what Kishi does? Concentrates all the cycle of hatred in one person (Indra) and by having Naruto defeat his "vessel" aka Sasuke, everybody is free of hate, everybody is free of this cycle of hate :zaru:  Really? Because clearly no other person does evil deeds, let's all balme it on a guy who died centuries ago... Is this why Nagato, Jiraiya, Obito and Minato died, for this loser (Naruto) who didn't break kitten? :facepalm:

 

Honestly Madara/Obito should have accomplished the IT permanently, Naruto saying it was all a lie and stuff but doesn't offer any other valid solution. Good job, the theme of peace has been going on about since Pain appeared, and no message to us, just some vague: "I'll break the cycle of hatred". Wow :err:  good for you dude how about showing how it's done. C'mon don't make your MC say stuff if you don't know how to handle it. Realistically speaking it was impossible to break that cycle, because there's more than one, what's possible is to avoid some of them to start and break a few old ones. He had the chance for Naruto to realize that and have him try to show it to the world, but we get nothing more than a: "Your peace is a lie, mine is better just because I say so." :cuss:  Naruto, honestly, kitten you, you had the balls, but not anymore...

 

Even Sasuke and Pain offered better solutions than Naruto, they were temporary, but better. Why? Because at least they had a solution... Naruto only had to show his ways through compassion and understanding, basically showing the example and make him and others understand that it was not possible to break the cycle of hatred but it was possible to mitigate it. Kishi should have focused and explained this message after the outcome of the war, showing us how Naruto and the other nations handled a "normal" peace but we just got bromance... In the end, this temporary peace they achieved was because Obito declared war to the 5 nations :facepalm:  give it a few more decades and we'll see how they're doing... I'm not saying there weren't glimpses of Naruto doing this, because they were, but he did it indirectly and achieved an utopical peace out of nowhere. The real problem with this asspull of an utopical peace, is that now there's no meaning to becoming a Kage, because he achieved that peace. What a way to kitten on your character's initial dream, remember: "I'll become Hokage" :fu:

 

Ah... now I hate this ending even more :cry:

^THIS, i couldnt agree more there is so many loose ends and plot holes its pathetic. Naruto didnt defeat hate atleast we didnt see it. I mean atleast sasuke gave us an answer but naruto never did, this ending was just terrible all the way around


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:28 PM

when reading this i was like:

 

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after i finished reading it:

 

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Hahaha, thank you :3


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:29 PM

You know what really pisses me off? The whole manga's theme is about BONDS. More specifically, bonds formed with family and friends--not necessarily bonds pertaining to romance. This theme is centered almost completely around team 7 and their own respective bonds with each other, as well as other friends, teachers, and family in the story.

 

The main bond focus has always been team 7. The entire story was centered around that bond and progressed because of it. The story emphasized the pain of such a bond breaking and withering over time, and the super-objective in the story was to replenish and strengthen this bond in order to not only heal it (and the people associated with it) per se, but to also make it stronger and more mutual and reciprocated. Bringing Sasuke back was the only way to start healing the bonds between the team as respective teammates and comrades. Healing and strengthening the bond was the only way to achieve true happiness and complete closure for everyone involved in the team. So in knowing this, you'd think that there would've been some significant and heart-warming team 7 moments in the last chapter of the series that was all about team 7 and the bonds formed within said team as a collective group. But nope. No interaction between them as a team--as a group of friends at ALL. Yes, Naruto and Sasuke had significant moments in 699. And Sasuke and Sakura shared a bullsh** moment. But what about them as a team? ALL interacting together. Like family and old friends. Instead, all of the interaction is focused and centered exclusively around Sasuke rather than the interaction being centered around the team as a whole.

That's why I'm so MAD. In the epilogue, we do not get to see the team bonding like old times or even interacting together as a whole in the slightest. We don't even get any evidence (whether implicitly stated or not) that all of them remained extremely good friends, all supporting one another. Instead, what do we get? We get Naruto bonding/interacting with Sasuke in 699. Then Sakura interacting with Sasuke in 699. And that's it. We don't get anything more than that concerning team 7. Instead, in the epilogue, panel space is wasted showing everyone paired up, along with their irrelevant children. Panel space is wasted by focusing on Bolt and Sarada in an attempt to set-up part 3 when INSTEAD, the EPILOGUE should be focused on tying up all the loose ends. Panel space is used showing the team as a separated being, all in their own individual lives (and individual panels, mind you). Almost like all of them went their own separate ways. They are shown separately. Unbounded to each other. It gives off the impression that they are disconnected in a way. They are no longer whole or complete as a team or group. It's an utter mess. Instead of Kishi focusing on bonds centered on friendship and companionship (a crucial and main theme to the story in its entirety), we get Kishi focusing on the weak and under-developed bonds centered on romance instead (which were not NEARLY as important as the theme centered around friendship and supportive comrades was).

Everything the story stood for is tossed out the window COMPLETELY. You'd THINK Kishi would show team 7 together at least in the same panel in the epilogue, but he DOESN'T. Hell, he doesn't even show the poorly though-out "canon" ships together in the same panel. This ending is such a joke I cannot stand it. The whole purpose of bringing Sasuke back was to reform, refine, and renew the bonds involved with team 7, but we don't even get any complete closure on that. Or anything, really. Never, ever would I have imagined the ending of Naruto would turn out so poorly. Kishi has always had some poor writing at times, but I NEVER thought it would ever be THIS BAD. This ending is the epitome of failure in every sense of the word. And it's not just because of NS not becoming canon, either.

 

Oh, and one more thing: before anyone tries to tell me that'll we see team 7 interaction/bonding in the movie, let me just start by saying that that's bullsh**. The manga was so heavily influenced by team 7 as a whole and so entirely centered around it that closure should've been given in the MANGA, which started it all to begin with! Team 7 was SO IMPORTANT throughout the entire course of the manga--the entire 15 years--that time and panel space should've and needed to be devoted to giving complete closure and satisfying interaction between Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, and even Kakashi as teammates. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SEE A MOVIE, NOR SHOULD ANY JAPANESE FAN NEED TO WASTE MONEY ON A MOVIE, TO SEE THINGS THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN ENTIRELY RESOLVED IN THE MANGA--THE ORIGINAL WORK.

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THIS IS PRECISELY WHY I'M SO FLIPPIN' MAD ABOUT THE ENDING.

(bless you for having written it)


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But they were all of them deceived, for another canon was made. In the land of Japan, in the fires of Studio Pierrot, the dark Lord Kishimoto forged in secret a master canon, to control all others, and into this canon, he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life. One canon to rule them all.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:30 PM

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lol NARUTO (temporary name) hahaha

EDIT: so wait is this the supposed manga spin off? it sounds like normal books to me. this series just keeps getting more and more bizarre. :confused:  


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:30 PM

Anyway, if anybody is free to discuss fanfictions, then can they please PM me or something. I'm THA musIc GuY from ff.net. I've actually got this idea for a NaruSaku fanfiction that I'd like to discuss before engaging myself with.

 

So, until then.

 

See ya guys for now! :sleepy: :lol:

 

Oh my god you're that guy!!?? I love your fanfics, I hope you'll be able to make this new story and so much more  :happy:

 

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:33 PM

Kishi really isn't writing the new era maybe this guy will do Hinarock and sakuwall



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:33 PM

Is that Kakashi in the background? Look at the hair...

So Naruto looks like his part 2 self, Kakashi is Hokage...


Did Naruto and Hinata have this kid in shippuden? :wot:

I believe all of them are Naruto.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:34 PM

Is that Kakashi in the background? Look at the hair...

So Naruto looks like his part 2 self, Kakashi is Hokage...


Did Naruto and Hinata have this kid in shippuden? :wot:

Oh god i hope not this story is already ridiculously OOC and senseless 


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:37 PM

Kishi really isn't writing the new era maybe this guy will do Hinarock and sakuwall


I'LL SUE. (Despite having no legal standing.) because this is 'Murica and that's what we do.

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:37 PM

So Naruto grew his hair back? Lol it's so spiky

Like look at Kakashi

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And then look at him in that pic.

Though it probably is Naruto, so kitten. Btw I read your theory!! :thumb:

Or his son growing up and becoming the next Hokage?


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:38 PM

So Akira-sensei is the one who wrote gutsy ninja...He's cool. x)

At least the Sakura in his story was much more realistic...


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:40 PM

I'LL SUE. (Despite having no legal standing.) because this is 'Murica and that's what we do.

Yeah!

 

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:44 PM

Another handout? :no:

This kid looks like an apple, btw. He has a little stem on the top of his head. Where is Himawari? Only show the boy? :facepalm:

AN APPLE XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

Probably. Then, I will still believe them all are Naruto. Because ther is no way to be 3 different persons. Or Kakashi in the back. Isn't the story an after-story? Kakashi will not longer be the Hokage and is old (?).


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:51 PM

Yeah!
 
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I can't stop laughing at this.
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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:59 PM

Yeah!

 

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- L'inguaribile ottimismo di un dodo.

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But they were all of them deceived, for another canon was made. In the land of Japan, in the fires of Studio Pierrot, the dark Lord Kishimoto forged in secret a master canon, to control all others, and into this canon, he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life. One canon to rule them all.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:02 PM

The NS kids art of them all gathering together and saying they are one anothers siblings even if they don't have parents kills me every time.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:02 PM

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 Watch it be filed with NH and SS moments :down:


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:02 PM

"OMG!! ALL YOU NS FANS ONLY THINK THIS ENDING SUCKS BECAUSE YOUR SUCKY SHIP DIDN'T BECOME CANON!! WOW STOP BEING SO SALTY IT'S SO PATHETIC!! HAVE RESPECT FOR KISHI'S WORK!!!! YOU CAN'T FIGHT CANON"

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:05 PM

Twillight= Still a Better love story than Naruto

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:06 PM

"OMG!! ALL YOU NS FANS ONLY THINK THIS ENDING SUCKS BECAUSE YOUR SUCKY SHIP DIDN'T BECOME CANON!! WOW STOP BEING SO SALTY IT'S SO PATHETIC!! HAVE RESPECT FOR KISHI'S WORK!!!! YOU CAN'T FIGHT CANON"

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And they are happy only 'cause their ship did....sooo  :zaru:


- L'inguaribile ottimismo di un dodo.

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But they were all of them deceived, for another canon was made. In the land of Japan, in the fires of Studio Pierrot, the dark Lord Kishimoto forged in secret a master canon, to control all others, and into this canon, he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life. One canon to rule them all.





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