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[TouKen4Life3g]

Unless guy can be used for female, I am thinking maybe Hagoromo's brother, because he did disappear out of nowhere with no explanation.

On the other hand, it can be anyone. Lastly, it doesn't say appear, so maybe something else will happen. Not sure.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 31 May 2014 - 12:13 PM.

[Dkey]

Unless guy can be used for female, I am thinking maybe Hagoromo's brother, because he did disappear out of nowhere with no explanation.

On the other hand, it can be anyone. Lastly, it doesn't say appear, so maybe something else will happen. Not sure.

 

sounds to me like it talking about more about the dream world than the real world but then what happens to team 7

[TouKen4Life3g]

sounds to me like it talking about more about the dream world than the real world but then what happens to team 7

Who's the guy then?

[Dkey]

Who's the guy then?

 

have no idea....

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just thought of something. What if Kaguya saved Madara from death by Hashirama. Someone correct me but didn't they say they have no idea why he lived but he did. What if she granted him one last chance, so he can accomplish that grand goal.

Man, next chapter will set up the stage.

[Strangelove]

i wonder..kaguya will have a sad past?

 

I hope Kaguya is like frieza, just cruel for the sake of being cruel.

 

All of the villains...Orochimaru, Kabuto, Obito, Nagato, and Madara have had a sad past...and its becoming annoying that is just the same boring story over and over again...I just want a villain that is a total unadulterated bad ass.

Edited by Strangelove, 31 May 2014 - 05:05 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I hope Kaguya is like frieza, just cruel for the sake of being cruel.
 
All of the villains...Orochimaru, Kabuto, Obito, Nagato, and Madara have had a sad past...and its becoming annoying that is just the same boring story over and over again...I just want a villain that is a total unadulterated bad ass.

Technically, we did have them but this war makes it seem like we focus on bunch of baddies with sad past for too long. It's weird because if we read it from the beginning, it will be quick. Ok, there's still a lot but it wouldn't feel eternal. That said Madara was one of them. Yes, he has a messed up back story but his redemption is absent. That one we haven't got in a while, no redemption for the villain.

[harry4e]

Unless guy can be used for female, I am thinking maybe Hagoromo's brother, because he did disappear out of nowhere with no explanation.

On the other hand, it can be anyone. Lastly, it doesn't say appear, so maybe something else will happen. Not sure.

 

That would be cool, I want to know more about this other sibling, which I am unsure was male or female, the fact they just randomly got introduced recently, and just in passing conversation, 'Oh yeah me and my sibling defeated the ten tails', I want to know about him/her more than anyone else at the moment. partially because I still think the Hyuuga and Uzumaki clan originate from him/her, and partially because I want to know why one brother went down as a legend, yet the other sibling got forgotten.

 

It's like when the manga started it was about the new generation surpassing the old generation, yet it seems to be completely opposite this past couple of years it's the old generation showing how weak the new generation has become...It was bad enough Madara and Hashirama showing the new gen how weak the past gen is, now we have the original Generation coming out of the woodwork showing how weak those two were.

[Dkey]

 
I hope Kaguya is like frieza, just cruel for the sake of being cruel.
 
All of the villains...Orochimaru, Kabuto, Obito, Nagato, and Madara have had a sad past...and its becoming annoying that is just the same boring story over and over again...I just want a villain that is a total unadulterated bad ass.

I dont think so. She may have decided to do this because she had a tragedy in her lifetime

[TouKen4Life3g]

That would be cool, I want to know more about this other sibling, which I am unsure was male or female, the fact they just randomly got introduced recently, and just in passing conversation, 'Oh yeah me and my sibling defeated the ten tails', I want to know about him/her more than anyone else at the moment. partially because I still think the Hyuuga and Uzumaki clan originate from him/her, and partially because I want to know why one brother went down as a legend, yet the other sibling got forgotten.
 
It's like when the manga started it was about the new generation surpassing the old generation, yet it seems to be completely opposite this past couple of years it's the old generation showing how weak the new generation has become...It was bad enough Madara and Hashirama showing the new gen how weak the past gen is, now we have the original Generation coming out of the woodwork showing how weak those two were.

Well we are dealing with gods. We not supposed to have gods on Earth causing destruction. One thing to say that will surpass the old generation: correct the mistake. The fact Kaguya is alive and bout to continue hell tells you the old generation screwed up, especially Indra and Ashura incident. Hell, they not supposed to have ninjutsu in the first place. So now they're dealing with Kaguya. They win, that's surpassing the old generation: finish the problem, not stall it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I dont think so. She may have decided to do this because she had a tragedy in her lifetime

Got to start somewhere. Frieza never tell us the backstory, so it gives us only one impression: man is evil.

[harry4e]

Well we are dealing with gods. We not supposed to have gods on Earth causing destruction. One thing to say that will surpass the old generation: correct the mistake. The fact Kaguya is alive and bout to continue hell tells you the old generation screwed up, especially Indra and Ashura incident. Hell, they not supposed to have ninjutsu in the first place. So now they're dealing with Kaguya. They win, that's surpassing the old generation: finish the problem, not stall it.

 

But are not the children of gods not gods themselves?

 

Well we do't really know who Kaguya is, or her origins, so I have in my head some obscure idea in my head that the tree was the original protector of the world and Kaguya were sent from another planet to become it's ruler, however she couldn't manage it because of the tree so she ate the seed stealing it's power, and making the orignal gaurdian of the planet it's biggest enemy.  But she was stopped by her children who were more heavily influenced by humanity. Or if the Tree and Kaguya both came from the same planet to be used together to take over the world.

 

Though I don't know if the only reason I think that because I watched Kill la Kill recently and the plot does sound similar to Kaguya and how she used the tree's powers.

[Nostradamus]

 

I hope Kaguya is like frieza, just cruel for the sake of being cruel.

 

All of the villains...Orochimaru, Kabuto, Obito, Nagato, and Madara have had a sad past...and its becoming annoying that is just the same boring story over and over again...I just want a villain that is a total unadulterated bad ass.

Agreed. I don't want Kaguya to be another "victim" of the world.

Although you know what would be funny. If we find out that Kaguya had feelings for someone and it was her dream to be with that person, and that someone never returned her feelings and she decided to give everyone their dreams because she couldn't fulfill hers.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
But are not the children of gods not gods themselves?
 
Well we do't really know who Kaguya is, or her origins, so I have in my head some obscure idea in my head that the tree was the original protector of the world and Kaguya were sent from another planet to become it's ruler, however she couldn't manage it because of the tree so she ate the seed stealing it's power, and making the orignal gaurdian of the planet it's biggest enemy.  But she was stopped by her children who were more heavily influenced by humanity. Or if the Tree and Kaguya both came from the same planet to be used together to take over the world.
 
Though I don't know if the only reason I think that because I watched Kill la Kill recently and the plot does sound similar to Kaguya and how she used the tree's powers.

Should I expect the ultimate fanservice by stripping everyone then?

Agreed. I don't want Kaguya to be another "victim" of the world.
Although you know what would be funny. If we find out that Kaguya had feelings for someone and it was her dream to be with that person, and that someone never returned her feelings and she decided to give everyone their dreams because she couldn't fulfill hers.

Didn't she stopped the war at first but then got greedy and do the moon eye plan?

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 31 May 2014 - 06:02 PM.

[Nostradamus]

Didn't she stopped the war at first but then got greedy and do the moon eye plan?

That's what was stated. But keep in mind this is Kishimoto, this guy is known for telling us one thing in one chapter only to tell us something else in another chapter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's what was stated. But keep in mind this is Kishimoto, this guy is known for telling us one thing in one chapter only to tell us something else in another chapter.

More like going more inside than already told you. Like:

One story said that soldier dies.

The other one said that soldier dies while tying his shoes.

The last one said that soldier dies while tying his shoes but have a bad cold from last battlefield.

[Nostradamus]

More like going more inside than already told you. Like:

One story said that soldier dies.

The other one said that soldier dies while tying his shoes.

The last one said that soldier dies while tying his shoes but have a bad cold from last battlefield.

So basically misinformation because only a couple of people know exactly what happened. The rest hear bits and pieces and invent the rest.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So basically misinformation because only a couple of people know exactly what happened. The rest hear bits and pieces and invent the rest.

Kind of like how Kakashi said about Hyuuga. Otherwise, if one new generation said all details, that's one scary person to know all that. It's like knowing how Hagoromo sleeps and eat.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Technically, we did have them but this war makes it seem like we focus on bunch of baddies with sad past for too long. It's weird because if we read it from the beginning, it will be quick. Ok, there's still a lot but it wouldn't feel eternal. That said Madara was one of them. Yes, he has a messed up back story but his redemption is absent. That one we haven't got in a while, no redemption for the villain.

 

Give it time.  He'll be redeemed like the rest, and have one last chat with Hashirama, before they both pass on for real this time.

 

 

I hope Kaguya is like frieza, just cruel for the sake of being cruel.

 

All of the villains...Orochimaru, Kabuto, Obito, Nagato, and Madara have had a sad past...and its becoming annoying that is just the same boring story over and over again...I just want a villain that is a total unadulterated bad ass.

 

Considering she was around constant war, I think you're asking for the impossible.  Also, a villain isn't bad@ss because the person doesn't have a sad past, but because he/she has enough charisma that even the audience on a level roots for him/her.  From many fans perspective, Obito and Madara don't have that.  Obito lost it because the girl he liked died.  Madara went down this path for reasons unknown to the audience.   Based on conjecture, the reason partly relates to not being chosen for Hokage.  Anyway, if the reasons get explained now, readers may not feel any empathy because to them, it just came too late.  I understand why Obito and Madara aren't considered very good villains.  Kaguya has yet to be seen whether she will break the mold.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, anything can happen, so I guess we wait on that one.

While you said on villains having charisma is true, it really sounds like wrestling. Lol. But seriously, well, I have no problem for the most part in this series. Then again, I was raised during the time where villains aren't born, they're made. To each of their own. For me, if you want to be all out pure bad, don't give us back story, but do have good charisma. Don't be very typical "take over the world" usual antic that has nothing else to do. Make yourself stand out and roll with it. If you want a back story, do it vague and make us question to the end if not forever, "What the hell is he/she?" Usually works well with horror story, but can work elsewhere.