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[Hanabi]

@Hanabi Maybe that's what the case is. This can be one of the reasons IMO. But I suppose it isn't the whole of Hachibi as before, but some parts of it as you explained.

yeah, maybe gyuki is like katsuyu

[narusaku256]

yeah, maybe gyuki is like katsuyu

Yeah, maybe

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wonder if we get any previews.

[Otaru]

I wonder if Kishi intentionally left Sakura out of the infinite tsukuyomi so her feelings wouldn't be revealed.

 

We're not sure yet that IT will be about feelings.

We don't even know if we will see some of the dream/dreams (we don't even know if there will be several dreams or just one if some dream is shown)

Edited by Otaru, 22 May 2014 - 10:48 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Look at this way. NH fans should be happy that's canon...in that world. No real Naruto, yes fake one. See? Unless Madara says no.

[Otaru]

About Hinata, since people are still talking about her, the thing that is upsetting me the more is the fact that she's always OUT OF HER TEAM.

I would like to see her grow with her team, and not repeating every time she's seen "Naruto-kun".

I swear, this character is so broken... at first, she was interesting with all the Hyuuga conflict. Now she's all about Naruto and that's all.

We don't even see her sister anymore and it's a pity because this sort of conflict she had with her was interesting.

Putting her with Naruto would be so boring... god I hope Kishi will not do that. I don't believe it but just thinking about it... meh...

I really don't get why he's persisting in showing her, outside of her team, as if she is of another importance, always talking about Naruto... she's really only that ? lol

I think that's why NH fans believe so much in NH.

 

Also, some people on other forums are saying that Hinata is kind of partly immune to the genjutsu thanks to her byakugan, and that why she's concious and thinking while everybody else seem frozen. What do you think about that ? That could be true because we have not seen anybody else thinking.

 

and also...

 

 

Could it be possible that Kishi anticipated this for so long ? That would be crazy ^^

Edited by Otaru, 23 May 2014 - 11:36 AM.

[NaruSakuishere]

So, any ideas on what these Edo Hokages can do? We have a guy who is still stabbed in place, we have a guy who is probably still low on chakra, that time will tell on that, we have a guy who just saw all of his people got wiped out and perhaps the only guy that can fight, and we have a guy who is armless and pretty much can be comical by saying, "I can't feel my arms." So, any ideas?

Probably Naruto can create arms for Minato,like he did Kakashi eye?

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

 

and also...

 

 

Could it be possible that Kishi anticipated this for so long ? That would be crazy ^^

 

I would be more inclined to think Kishimoto modeled the tattoos after their clan insignias than the clan symbols were meant as a foreshadowing from the beginning. I'm not at all convinced that the direction Kishi has taken with the Sage and reincarnation and ect. was something he intended and had consciously in mind the whole time. I mean no offence, but I think a lot of the 'connections' people make based on symbols is overthinking what's actually there. I'm not so sure Kishimoto has put such deliberate thought into these things as the fans do in trying to dissect it for deeper meanings.

[Otaru]

 

I would be more inclined to think Kishimoto modeled the tattoos after their clan insignias than the clan symbols were meant as a foreshadowing from the beginning. I'm not at all convinced that the direction Kishi has taken with the Sage and reincarnation and ect. was something he intended and had consciously in mind the whole time. I mean no offence, but I think a lot of the 'connections' people make based on symbols is overthinking what's actually there. I'm not so sure Kishimoto has put such deliberate thought into these things as the fans do in trying to dissect it for deeper meanings.

 
I think like you but still, it's a beautiful coincidence ^^

Edited by Otaru, 22 May 2014 - 11:49 PM.

[Nostradamus]

 

 
I think like you but still, it's a beautiful coincidence ^^

That image pretty much summarizes the overly exaggerated brotherly love between Naruto and Sasuke. Why can't Sasuke and Naruto admit how much they love each other and get it over with.

Edited by Nostradamus, 23 May 2014 - 12:02 AM.

[harry4e]

About Hinata, since people are still talking about her, the thing that is upsetting me the more is the fact that she's always OUT OF HER TEAM.

I would like to see her grow with her team, and not repeating every time she's seen "Naruto-kun".

I swear, this character is so broken... at first, she was interesting with all the Hyuuga conflict. Now she's all about Naruto and that's all.

We don't even see her sister anymore and it's a pity because this sort of conflict she had with her was interesting.

Putting her with Naruto would be so boring... god I hope Kishi will not do that. I don't believe it but just thinking about it... meh...

I really don't get why he's persisting in showing her, outside of her team, as if she is of another importance, always talking about Naruto... she's really only that ? lol

I think that's why NH fans believe so much in NH.

 

Also, some people on other forums are saying that Hinata is kind of partly immune to the genjutsu thanks to her byakugan, and that why she's concious and thinking while everybody else seem frozen. What do you think about that ? That could be true because we have not seen anybody else thinking.

 

and also...

 

 

Could it be possible that Kishi anticipated this for so long ? That would be crazy ^^

 

Well he had some idea where he planned to take the Manga when he started, so it is possible....I did originally think they were opposite tough, The Uciha symbol is the flame and they are fire specialists, so I figued Uchiha were the Sun, and thought with Narutobeing Whirlpool, which get stronger when the gravitational pull of the moon is at it's strongest, so Naruto was the moon. Ofcourse that completely contradicted my idea that Sasuke was Yin (dark) and Naruto was Yang (light)

[melovechoco]

Seriously, when mad things happen, we dont know what to expect anymore , I mean..next chapter.. seriously, what will kishi do?
And for those who had watched the matrix, can u tell me how the movie ends? Cause recently,I just keep on hearing people talking about the connection between this movie and naruto ultimate tsukuyomi plan.

Never heard of this movie before. What its about?

Edited by melovechoco, 23 May 2014 - 05:10 AM.

[oksus]

The hero (Neo-kinda like Jesus) ends up sacrificing himself.

At least he gets the girl before he dies

[archangel]

It seems that Obito and Kabuto will also be joining Team 7 and the edo hokages in the upcoming chapters.
Reason for Kabuto: He has snake senjutsu. When he battled it out with Itachi and Sasuke before he got caught in Izanami, he created a huge light to blind Itachi and Sasuke so that he can play his move. But that light could harm him too. So he had covered his eyes with some special layer which made him immune to the bright light and Itachi's genjutsu traps specifically and I guess he stated that the flaps on his eyes make him immune to any genjutsu. So MAYBE he won't be affected by IT

Reason for Obito: Well, technically he was dead when IT was activated and upon that he is an Uchiha, so when he comes back to his senses, he must be outta IT and upon that since he has BZ over him, which didn't seem to be affected by IT, it raises the chances even more.

Agreed with Kabuto,

 

But not about the Obito part. You don't have to be caught upon activation. If that were the case, Sasuke could just now release is Susano'o since the activation stage is over. Thought I agree Obito might be immune to it. He was at one point the Jinchuriki of the 10 tails, and being an Uchiha and all, he might but Idk if he will survive.

[narusaku256]

Agreed with Kabuto,
 
But not about the Obito part. You don't have to be caught upon activation. If that were the case, Sasuke could just now release is Susano'o since the activation stage is over. Thought I agree Obito might be immune to it. He was at one point the Jinchuriki of the 10 tails, and being an Uchiha and all, he might but Idk if he will survive.

He also has black zetsu which seemed to be immune from it. I think anything related to the juubi or the god tree seems to be immune from it. That's not for sure though :/. Just some analysis from my part, I can be wrong on this part :/.

Edited by narusaku256, 23 May 2014 - 06:27 AM.

[shisui]

I disagree Sasuke is showing care for Naruto by protecting him. What he said: they're both needed to defeat Madara. He didn't say he protected him because he cares about him.

 

As usual, the yaoi fangirls take it too far. Making excuses for Sasuke to have protected Sakura and Kakashi with Susanoo only because they were next to Naruto, but then Sasuke was protecting Naruto for reasons that he never meant.

 

Sasuke cares about the three of them, or he cares about none of them.

 

No falling out of love with someone who degrades you, ignores you and tries to kill you 3 times is a pretty valid reason for any person with commom sense, logic and dignity(execpt in Kishi's world of course). That she still has romantic aspirations for Sasuke right now doesn't make her character any justice, it just makes her a fool.
Sakura choosing Naruto over Sasuke is good for NS but I don't see how it's good for her character, her feelings for Sasuke and the love triangle hurt her character more than anything else.

 

your tone is condescending and you attack people who disagree with you, whether or not you realize it is your problem but I'm not the only one who thinks like that, it's hard to have a discussion with you without you trying to impose your opinion. You just called someone coward in this thread, was that necessary ?

Good, she's a kind girl for trying to help someone who tried to kill her and is doing it because it's her duty not out of love. As long as she doesn't do it because of her tru luv that's acceptable.

 

Your opinion of my tone... I'm going to ignore it, because I see no point.

 

The rest... It doesn't matter if Naruto does it out friendship and Sakura does it out of romantic feelings. Naruto and Sakura both did pathetic things (for example Naruto hyperventilating and fainting), even if Sasuke was equally evil towards the both of them. I also complained Naruto telling Hagaromo that Sasuke was his friend was pathetic, but it happened. I also complained Sakura loving Sasuke was pathetic, but it happened. I can complain and you can complain, but Kishi likes this a lot.

 

Also, Sakura looks pathetic if she moves on now instead of after the murder attempts. He's ignoring her? How is that worse than trying to kill her? The choice between the two is the better option for her character. Dαrkrєrsŧ understands what I said about this.

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 23 May 2014 - 08:12 AM.

[narusaku256]

I don't know what's with these Sakura choosing Naruto over Sasuke seeming like she chose Naruto because she could not have Sasuke and implying that Naruto is a silver medal thing but really, Kishi would never make it seem like this. It is never implied or shown in the manga that Sakura started having interest in Naruto over Sasuke just because of how Sasuke treated her. Many of the part 2 moments Sakura had with Naruto took place when she was oblivious about what Sasuke had become. Sasuke being a bad guy, he never caring for her, he trying to kill her, he never acknowledging her are reasons valid enough for her to move out of Sasuke romantically BUT never the reasons enough to make her fall for Naruto. I am sorry, but that is not the case. Her choosing Naruto is out of her own free will and not because of some obligation. At the beginning of part 2 she started having an interest in Naruto of her own free will and not because she could not have Sasuke and thereon the same pattern continues. If anything, Sakura falling for Naruto will be because of his own merits and not because she could not have Sasuke. What Sasuke did to her are the reasons enough for her moving out of Sasuke but these reasons alone do not imply that she fell for Naruto because of them. I'll repeat again, she fell for Naruto for his own merits and not because of what Sasuke did to her. Sasuke's treatment is a driving force for her in moving out of him romantically but not a driving force for her falling for Naruto. Her choosing Naruto will be because of Naruto ofcourse and will be decided by her free will and not because she cannot have Sasuke and Sasuke treating her badly.

Edited by narusaku256, 23 May 2014 - 08:38 AM.

[Psychox]

The rest... It doesn't matter if Naruto does it out friendship and Sakura does it out of romantic feelings. Naruto and Sakura both did pathetic things (for example Naruto hyperventilating and fainting), even if Sasuke was equally evil towards the both of them. I also complained Naruto telling Hagaromo that Sasuke was his friend was pathetic, but it happened. I also complained Sakura loving Sasuke was pathetic, but it happened. I can complain and you can complain, but Kishi likes this a lot.

 

Also, Sakura looks pathetic if she moves on now instead of after the murder attempts. He's ignoring her? How is that worse than trying to kill her? The choice between the two is the better option for her character. Dαrkrєrsŧ understands what I said about this.

Dude, are you 100% sure you're a NS fan? Drama/Angst =/= Romantic love .

 

Pathetic things? You call hyperventilating and fainting pathetic? This is like calling a heart attack pathetic  , Sasuke is someone who Naruto cares quite a lot and him being lost in darkness didn't bring a positive effect on Naruto's feelings overall , pathetic ? That's called a strong bond.

 

I don't know what more has to happen to become clear for people that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke romantically , Kishimoto made a whole dialog - in Kakashi's  mentality how Sakura still cares for Sasuke but doesn't love him that way ,but no, all of that was ''ambiguous'' and she still loves him romantically and her feelings have deepen , even though , she is a kind of girl and is doing it out of duty.
 

[narusaku256]

I don't know what more has to happen to become clear for people that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke romantically , Kishimoto made a whole dialog - in Kakashi's  mentality how Sakura still cares for Sasuke but doesn't love him that way.
 

I agree with you here. Kakashi stated it clearly. Everyone, Kakashi, Yamato, hell even Sai can see that she loves Naruto. Everyone can see that she is out of Sasuke BUT I'll ask the same question which I asked yesterday, 'Does Sakura realise this?'

Edited by narusaku256, 23 May 2014 - 09:20 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Probably Naruto can create arms for Minato,like he did Kakashi eye?

Well, I was thinking that too. I mean Minato is a jutsu, so it should be easier than anything else.